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Post by Otto Kretschmer on Feb 14, 2022 11:55:01 GMT
What if the Dutch Revolt somehow ended much faster?
How much faster could it be?
Would the Dutch Republic that is at peace in say 1600 fare better than the one which only signed a peace treaty in 1648?
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Post by lordroel on Feb 14, 2022 16:15:32 GMT
What if the Dutch Revolt somehow ended much faster? How much faster could it be? Would the Dutch Republic that is at peace in say 1600 fare better than the one which only signed a peace treaty in 1648? @lordroel The Dutch Revolt lasted from 1566 to 1648, that is 80 years, how short do you want it to be. |
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Post by Otto Kretschmer on Feb 14, 2022 16:17:58 GMT
What if the Dutch Revolt somehow ended much faster? How much faster could it be? Would the Dutch Republic that is at peace in say 1600 fare better than the one which only signed a peace treaty in 1648? @lordroel The Dutch Revolt lasted from 1566 to 1648, that is 80 years, how short do you want it to be. As short as possible. |
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Post by stevep on Feb 14, 2022 20:59:10 GMT
If its very short does it retain most/all of the southern Netherlands as well, i.e. OTL Belgium plus a bit of modern France? That would be a huge butterfly with both advantages and disadvantages.
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Post by Otto Kretschmer on Feb 18, 2022 5:59:58 GMT
@lordroel qny of maginable ompact on Dutch colonization of North Wmerica?
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Post by shadow007 on Jun 17, 2022 4:16:11 GMT
The early and more successful the Dutch revolt is the bigger their direct and indirect impact on human history becomes. So how much shorter could it be?
It's a bigger shock to all of Europe and the Ottomans, especially Spain and its friends. A small nation beating the crap of a big empire is always a huge deal. Granted there are reasons which people would know why it happen but the impact is felt hard.
Spain tries hard to reform its military and empire. Best case scenario for them and Latin America they adopt a lot of the Dutch innovations and capitalist tendencies. Historically, Spain skipped the Enlightenment, Printing Press and other crucial events which hurt it and Latin America.
The Dutch take over more territory everywhere and amass more wealth. Another reason Europe and the Ottomans try to adopt as much Dutch ideals as possible.
Capitalism develops much earlier, at a faster pace and is much more widely accepted. Technology is invented and spread sooner resulting in an earlier Industrial Revolution.
But that would mean both the Scramble for Africa and WW1 would also occur much earlier. Toxic Capitalism and Imperialism on steroids.
This could result in Ming China, Joseon Korea and Tokugawa Japan trying to Westernize. Which would be a great thing. Better to join the European Imperialists than be subjugated by them.
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