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Post by Deleted on Dec 19, 2023 19:48:51 GMT
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Post by Otto Kretschmer on Dec 20, 2023 17:05:47 GMT
iPhone 14 ISOT to 2000 AD. Can it be reversd engineered?
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Post by lordroel on Dec 20, 2023 17:07:55 GMT
iPhone 14 ISOT to 2000 AD. Can it be reversd engineered? This belongs in the Frivolous ASB thread, not this one. |
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Post by Otto Kretschmer on Dec 20, 2023 17:08:57 GMT
iPhone 14 ISOT to 2000 AD. Can it be reversd engineered? This belongs in the Frivolous ASB thread, not this one. You're sure of that? This might have tremendous implocations on the development of technology. |
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Post by lordroel on Dec 20, 2023 17:15:22 GMT
This belongs in the Frivolous ASB thread, not this one. You're sure of that? This might have tremendous implocations on the development of technology. 100 % sure. |
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Post by Otto Kretschmer on Dec 20, 2023 19:33:32 GMT
Australia from 1808 (European population: 10,000) ISOT to 3000 BC.
Can the 10,000 Europeans survive among the 300,000 Aborigines? How do they influence the world? Pretty sure there aren't any shipbuilders among them so they will be stuck in Australia for several centuries until seafaring tech reddvelops.
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Post by Otto Kretschmer on Dec 20, 2023 23:22:47 GMT
USSR from June 21st 1944 (right before the start of Operation Bagration) ISOT to June 21st 1939.
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Post by stevep on Dec 20, 2023 23:44:36 GMT
USSR from June 21st 1944 (right before the start of Operation Bagration) ISOT to June 21st 1939.
That would very likely mean a Soviet Europe at least as far as the Pyrenees. Quite possibly to Gibraltar. The USSR not only has massively more forces in 1944 compared to 1941 but a lot, possibly even the bulk of the 1941 Red Army is in the region between the 1941 and 1944 eastern front so they will take the bulk of the initial German attack. Also while the USSR is likely to see little L-L here it will have massive production capacity of its own as well as the people, factories and farms of the buffer region which will not have been devastated by three years of war. With Britain weakened and the US still neutral there will be little to stop the Red Army once the German forces are defeated.
Whether Stalin will then turn his massive forces against Japan and drive them from the mainland, seek to overrun the ME or what would depend on the circumstances.
There will be a fair number of duplicate people, mainly from the USSR although some others such as German and other Axis POWs and also other groups. Don't know whether there would be two copies of any significant military or political figures about here
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Post by Otto Kretschmer on Dec 20, 2023 23:57:11 GMT
stevepField Marshal Paulus is in Soviet captivity as of 1944 so now there are two of them.
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Post by Deleted on Dec 21, 2023 0:13:14 GMT
Portugal and its legal non-metropolitan territory. March, 1, 1973 to March 1, 1993. To start, i'd pay real money to look at the vein on Suharto's forehead in the moments after he gets the news as a number of his family, friends and in-laws are deployed in East Timor in 1993.
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Post by Otto Kretschmer on Dec 21, 2023 5:57:09 GMT
Ukrainian SSR from June 22nd 1981 to June 22nd 1941.
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Post by stevep on Dec 21, 2023 12:38:00 GMT
stevep Field Marshal Paulus is in Soviet captivity as of 1944 so now there are two of them.
That's the most famous of the German PoWs. I must admit I was thinking more of Russia figures who might be duplicated. - Although the revelation of Paulus as a POW who surrendered a German army despite having been prompted to Field Marshall could be less than healthy for his 1941 counterpart!  |
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Post by stevep on Dec 21, 2023 12:49:44 GMT
Portugal and its legal non-metropolitan territory. March, 1, 1973 to March 1, 1993. To start, i'd pay real money to look at the vein on Suharto's forehead in the moments after he gets the news as a number of his family, friends and in-laws are deployed in East Timor in 1993.
The down side is that I expect Suharto would move quickly to reverse the change and occupy E Timor. Portugal is now again under a right wing dictatorship so its unlikely to get much support from other powers and its status with regard to the EU could be questioned. Possibly even its continued membership of NATO.
When you say its legal non-metropolitan territories from 1-3-1973 do you only include E Timor and probably Macao or also its African territories? If their added to the list then that complicates matters greatly. With the USSR gone your likely to see independence but with pro-western rather than hard left governments gaining power but still a lot of unrest.
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Post by Deleted on Dec 21, 2023 16:30:49 GMT
Portugal and its legal non-metropolitan territory. March, 1, 1973 to March 1, 1993. To start, i'd pay real money to look at the vein on Suharto's forehead in the moments after he gets the news as a number of his family, friends and in-laws are deployed in East Timor in 1993.
The down side is that I expect Suharto would move quickly to reverse the change and occupy E Timor. Portugal is now again under a right wing dictatorship so its unlikely to get much support from other powers and its status with regard to the EU could be questioned. Possibly even its continued membership of NATO.
When you say its legal non-metropolitan territories from 1-3-1973 do you only include E Timor and probably Macao or also its African territories? If their added to the list then that complicates matters greatly. With the USSR gone your likely to see independence but with pro-western rather than hard left governments gaining power but still a lot of unrest.
Yes, all of Portugal - home territory, colonies etc. etc. \ The problem is, 1993 Suharto *can't* and if he does not know this, the people around him will yank his leash, because there are a lot of Portuguese including the Governor, his staff and Lisbon's non-native troops in East Timor in early 1973 so if the old thug tried to blunder in into the now brought forward by 20 years E. Timor and Europeans (and western tourists etc.) are killed... |
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Post by stevep on Dec 21, 2023 22:17:16 GMT
The down side is that I expect Suharto would move quickly to reverse the change and occupy E Timor. Portugal is now again under a right wing dictatorship so its unlikely to get much support from other powers and its status with regard to the EU could be questioned. Possibly even its continued membership of NATO.
When you say its legal non-metropolitan territories from 1-3-1973 do you only include E Timor and probably Macao or also its African territories? If their added to the list then that complicates matters greatly. With the USSR gone your likely to see independence but with pro-western rather than hard left governments gaining power but still a lot of unrest.
Yes, all of Portugal - home territory, colonies etc. etc. \ The problem is, 1993 Suharto *can't* and if he does not know this, the people around him will yank his leash, because there are a lot of Portuguese including the Governor, his staff and Lisbon's non-native troops in East Timor in early 1973 so if the old thug tried to blunder in into the now brought forward by 20 years E. Timor and Europeans (and western tourists etc.) are killed...
I don't know about that. To the world of 1993 its a case of a region that is internationally recognised as part of Indonesia suddenly being replaced with a colonial government run by a semi-fascist dictatorship. Plus the Indonesian forces would have a 20 year lead on technology compared to the isolated forces in E Timor. A lot would depend on how the US especially reacts as its the overwhelmingly dominant power at this date but is it going to support such a reversal, despite concerns about the nature of the Indonesian occupation.
Even more so with the colonial empire in Africa as the Portuguese were a lot less popular there and there's no longer any friendly regimes in Rhodesia or S Africa to support them.
As I say how the EEC/EU acts with regards to Portugal itself would be interesting. It can't have Portugal as a member without major changes in the country's internal politics.
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