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Post by stevep on Jun 25, 2020 8:05:04 GMT
Who's defining military sniper? I can see a lot of fringe groups and terrorist claim that their 'military' forces and hence qualify for this boost.
Either way its likely to be destabilising as it makes a lot of people even more lethal and it only needs a few bad eggs to make the world a lot more dangerous.
Yeah, I wondered if the implications of such a scenario would amount to something grisly if I thought about them hard enough. In which case, I suppose that only the militaries of internationally recognized nation-states are affected by ASB magic. Meaning that while the DPRK gets its perfect snipers, the Taliban doesn’t. On the actual battlefield, I suppose that infantry and other exposed targets will just have to hope and prey that snipers don’t choose them as their targets. I’m also guessing that armed forces around the world invest more into counter-snipers, as well as additional special forces and cutting-edge technology catered towards taking out enemy snipers specifically. Which in of itself reorients the priorities of whole militaries in different directions than usual, though specifics beyond the possibilities that I’ve already mentioned currently elude me.
Good reply. Made me think however what defines a sniper? Could a military give its entire infantry force some sniper training then classify them all as snipers to try and gain the benefit once they realised what is happening [and started believing it of course]? I would assume not but it would depend on what conditions the ASB set for the role.
Similarly we normally assume a sniper is an individual with a very accurate long ranged rifle of some type. Expect that would be the definition that the ASB would also use. However if it was defined as a single targeted shot - let alone a few such shots in rapid success you would have to include a lot of precision guided missiles and possibly also at least some artillery pieces and the like. Similarly tanks for instance don't normally fire blindly or with an area suppressant role but at a single target.
Sorry as usual I'm thinking of all the ways that the initial suggestion can be open to different interpretation. Its a habit I have as you might have noticed before. Probably because having long been an outsider I often see multiple different viewpoints can apply to a single basic question/assumption.
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Post by Zyobot on Jun 25, 2020 15:02:50 GMT
' Obamium As An Actual Chemical Element'.
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Post by Zyobot on Jun 26, 2020 16:47:43 GMT
' Vermin Supreme SI To FDR'. And maybe 'Alex Jones SI To Ronald Reagan', too.
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Post by Zyobot on Jun 27, 2020 16:58:19 GMT
'Gus Hall And Joe McCarthy Swap Bodies'.
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Post by Zyobot on Jun 28, 2020 18:11:38 GMT
' This Becomes The New Soviet Anthem In 1955'.
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Post by lordroel on Jun 28, 2020 18:25:13 GMT
' This Becomes The New Soviet Anthem In 1955'. Only that ore can we add text to it also like this.
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Post by Zyobot on Jun 28, 2020 20:29:26 GMT
' This Becomes The New Soviet Anthem In 1955'. Only that ore can we add text to it also like this. If you’re talking about lyrics, then maybe. But I think that depends on how in-sync they are with the new, PoTC-inspired anthem. Which, given the tempo of that the words to the actual Soviet anthem are sung to, may need their fair share of adapting and reworking.
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Post by Zyobot on Jul 1, 2020 2:09:35 GMT
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Post by Zyobot on Jul 2, 2020 17:32:35 GMT
'Joe Stalin And Kim Jong-Un Swap Bodies'.
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Post by stevep on Jul 3, 2020 10:46:01 GMT
'Joe Stalin And Kim Jong-Un Swap Bodies'.
Obvious question would be when. The idea of Kim suddenly gaining control in the midst of Operation Barbarossa could be even worse for the USSR than Stalin was. Stalin would find himself horrified by being in command of a tiny and deeply impoverished state in NE Asia that is even more of a pariah than the USSR was during the 1920's and a hell of a lot less capable. Not to mention what appears to be Kim's dodgy health. Although it also matters what date Stalin comes from. Assuming its some time after he became supreme ruler in the USSR but that covers a couple of decades.
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Post by Zyobot on Jul 3, 2020 16:36:30 GMT
'Joe Stalin And Kim Jong-Un Swap Bodies'.
Obvious question would be when. The idea of Kim suddenly gaining control in the midst of Operation Barbarossa could be even worse for the USSR than Stalin was. Stalin would find himself horrified by being in command of a tiny and deeply impoverished state in NE Asia that is even more of a pariah than the USSR was during the 1920's and a hell of a lot less capable. Not to mention what appears to be Kim's dodgy health. Although it also matters what date Stalin comes from. Assuming its some time after he became supreme ruler in the USSR but that covers a couple of decades.
Yeah, I suppose that our mileage will vary depending on both when each of them comes from and when they get sent to. I suppose that Kim wakes up in the body of 1939 Stalin, in which case he can 'get his feet wet' by deciding what to do about Finland and, if he chooses to invade it like IOTL, test his ability to lead the USSR during wartime as the potential lead-up to facing Nazi Germany to the west. Conversely, I guess that Stalin from that same date wakes up in Kim's body in the present day, eighty-one years later. Oh, and both 'body-swappers' gain each others' memories to help them through their respective experiences.
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Post by stevep on Jul 4, 2020 12:49:04 GMT
Obvious question would be when. The idea of Kim suddenly gaining control in the midst of Operation Barbarossa could be even worse for the USSR than Stalin was. Stalin would find himself horrified by being in command of a tiny and deeply impoverished state in NE Asia that is even more of a pariah than the USSR was during the 1920's and a hell of a lot less capable. Not to mention what appears to be Kim's dodgy health. Although it also matters what date Stalin comes from. Assuming its some time after he became supreme ruler in the USSR but that covers a couple of decades.
Yeah, I suppose that our mileage will vary depending on both when each of them comes from and when they get sent to. I suppose that Kim wakes up in the body of 1939 Stalin, in which case he can 'get his feet wet' by deciding what to do about Finland and, if he chooses to invade it like IOTL, test his ability to lead the USSR during wartime as the potential lead-up to facing Nazi Germany to the west. Conversely, I guess that Stalin from that same date wakes up in Kim's body in the present day, eighty-one years later. Oh, and both 'body-swappers' gain each others' memories to help them through their respective experiences.
I could be wrong but I get the feeling that Kim isn't the brightest, possibly a problem of an autocrat who obtained power through inheritance? He comes across as more of a spoilt playboy to me so that could be very bad for the Soviets. Plus if its before Aug 39 does he still agree the pact with Hitler? Not doing that would cause huge changes and complications. It would, assuming that Germany still wins in the west against France, put the Germans a lot closer to Moscow and especially if they were able to secure the Baltics Leningrad.
Suspect he would still go for Finland and probably get a similar result but might push it further for a full annexation once the Finns start to buckle. Although that might prompt Swedish intervention and possibly also western support, with Norwegian support, which might prevent any German invasion or ensure it failed. Which would again have a lot of butterflies.
In terms of Stalin, assuming Kim's health is decent he would be frustrated being in such a weak and tiny state as well as one crippled by internal incompetence and corruption and foreign sanctions. Might see a purge at some point to secure his power base but what he does after that I don't know. Can't see him agreeing to give up nukes because, as with Kim that wouldn't make sense. However he might try and moderate his policies a bit to ease sanctions. Not for any concern about the population of course but simply so he has more to work with.
Since Stalin is from 1939 he's going to be surprised by a lot of what he learns about WWII and his final years as well as what's happened in the former USSR and China since. However not a lot he could do about that.
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Post by Zyobot on Jul 5, 2020 16:53:43 GMT
'Xi Jinping Wakes Up As Winnie The Pooh'.
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Post by lordroel on Jul 5, 2020 16:58:45 GMT
'Xi Jinping Wakes Up As Winnie The Pooh'. Thanks Zyobot you just banned the forum in China.
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