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Post by stevep on Jul 17, 2020 14:14:24 GMT
If this was accompanied by similar successes in both houses of Congress then that could make a huge difference. He would have much more power and might get important legislation passed such as for a proper and efficient health bill. That could have massive butterflies.
In terms of a huge win for Trump in 2020 that would probably encourage him to be even more erratic. Also if also accompanied by Republican control of both houses, especially if primarily hard right ones it could mean a bad time for ordinary people in the US, at least for the next 4 years.
I’d ask for elaboration, but I’ve a feeling that this is the inappropriate thread for that. That said, I don’t think the contrast between the two presidencies is quite as black-and-white as you make it out to be. Also, ‘Pencils Become Pens And Vice-Versa’.
Probably not totally black and white as Obama had his flaws as well but he was fundamentally a responsible man and hence his party gaining largely unmatched power in government would be markedly less dangerous that a fundamentally immoral man like Trump gaining the same power.
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Post by Zyobot on Jul 17, 2020 14:28:25 GMT
I’d ask for elaboration, but I’ve a feeling that this is the inappropriate thread for that. That said, I don’t think the contrast between the two presidencies is quite as black-and-white as you make it out to be. Also, ‘Pencils Become Pens And Vice-Versa’.
Probably not totally black and white as Obama had his flaws as well but he was fundamentally a responsible man and hence his party gaining largely unmatched power in government would be markedly less dangerous that a fundamentally immoral man like Trump gaining the same power.
We can probably debate the respective dangers of their parties at two markedly different points in time. But I think that there were legitimate questions as to how ethical/competent Obama actually was, as not every demerit against him is a sign of bigotry or a ‘hate-fable’, as you’ve called it. But I don’t think that now is the time to converse about it.
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Post by stevep on Jul 18, 2020 11:37:24 GMT
Probably not totally black and white as Obama had his flaws as well but he was fundamentally a responsible man and hence his party gaining largely unmatched power in government would be markedly less dangerous that a fundamentally immoral man like Trump gaining the same power.
We can probably debate the respective dangers of their parties at two markedly different points in time. But I think that there were legitimate questions as to how ethical/competent Obama actually was, as not every demerit against him is a sign of bigotry or a ‘hate-fable’, as you’ve called it. But I don’t think that now is the time to converse about it.
No doubt but there were clear cases of such. Most noticeably the fabrications, by much of the Republican party, that he was not born in Hawaii and that he was a Muslim. That's the difference I'm referring to.
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Post by Zyobot on Jul 18, 2020 14:53:43 GMT
We can probably debate the respective dangers of their parties at two markedly different points in time. But I think that there were legitimate questions as to how ethical/competent Obama actually was, as not every demerit against him is a sign of bigotry or a ‘hate-fable’, as you’ve called it. But I don’t think that now is the time to converse about it.
No doubt but there were clear cases of such. Most noticeably the fabrications, by much of the Republican party, that he was not born in Hawaii and that he was a Muslim. That's the difference I'm referring to.
Yeah, I get that. But I don’t think it was much of the GOP, so much as a minority of crazed loons like Alex Jones who propagated drivel like that. Anyways, ‘Ronald Reagan Wins All 50 States In 1980’. Which, I think would be needlessly cruel towards Jimmy Carter, considering how his OTL defeat was humiliating enough. When you’ve lost more electoral votes than Herbert Hoover in 1932, you know that you’ve been thoroughly crushed.
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Post by Zyobot on Jul 19, 2020 15:05:05 GMT
‘All Candy Corn Becomes Corn Kernels’.
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Post by Zyobot on Jul 20, 2020 16:00:28 GMT
'Warring Nations' Heads of State Wrestle To Determine Who Wins'.
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Post by Zyobot on Jul 21, 2020 16:19:57 GMT
'Hillary Clinton Becomes A Living, Talking Hill'.
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Post by lordroel on Jul 21, 2020 16:23:17 GMT
'Hillary Clinton Becomes A Living, Talking Hill'. How big of a hill.
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Post by Zyobot on Jul 21, 2020 22:40:42 GMT
'Hillary Clinton Becomes A Living, Talking Hill'. How big of a hill. Eh, maybe fifty to sixty feet tall? And in the midst of a bunch of hills of similar size as well?
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Post by Zyobot on Jul 22, 2020 23:37:22 GMT
'The Bush Family Becomes Walking, Talking Bushes'.
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Post by lordroel on Jul 23, 2020 4:00:15 GMT
'The Bush Family Becomes Walking, Talking Bushes'. Like these fellows of LoD fame.
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Post by Zyobot on Jul 23, 2020 14:18:31 GMT
'The Bush Family Becomes Walking, Talking Bushes'. Like these fellows of LoD fame. Well...originally, I was thinking of something more modest and, ah, realistic. But I guess this is alright, if only to make the ramifications more interesting.
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Post by Zyobot on Jul 24, 2020 15:52:05 GMT
'Scones Become Stones (And Vice-Versa)'.
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Post by lordroel on Jul 24, 2020 15:58:01 GMT
'Scones Become Stones (And Vice-Versa)'. Every stone, because if so, a lot of people are going to die when their houses collapse i think.
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Post by Zyobot on Jul 24, 2020 15:58:52 GMT
'Scones Become Stones (And Vice-Versa)'. Every stone, because if so, a lot of people are going to die when their houses collapse i think. Ooh...good point. I suppose that to amend this, only rocks just sitting around in the wild or something like that undergo the transformation.
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