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Post by nicksumner on Oct 27, 2021 17:11:39 GMT
Another British aircraft from the Drake's Drum timeline. A Vickers Vindex bomber, developed from the long series of large, high altitude bomber designs Vickers completed in 1942 and 43 in OTL and is based on a variant of Scheme 'B' of 14/1/43 a drawing of which can be found in Tony Buttler's BSP 4. The engines are tractor rather than pusher, so the nacelle mounted rear armament has clear firing arcs. This image is Photoshopped. |
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Post by lordroel on Oct 27, 2021 17:21:38 GMT
Another British aircraft from the Drake's Drum timeline. A Vickers Vindex bomber, developed from the long series of large, high altitude bomber designs Vickers completed in 1942 and 43 in OTL and is based on a variant of Scheme 'B' of 14/1/43 a drawing of which can be found in Tony Buttler's BSP 4. The engines are tractor rather than pusher, so the nacelle mounted rear armament has clear firing arcs. This image is Photoshopped.Looks nice, see the RAAF use them, did not know they also use heavy bombers. Would the Vickers 'Vindex' fall in the same category as the B29. |
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Post by simon darkshade on Oct 27, 2021 17:23:08 GMT
With 6 engines, it is beyond the B-29. The Vickers C often gets a bit more attention, but it is a nice image.
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Post by lordroel on Oct 27, 2021 17:28:45 GMT
With 6 engines, it is beyond the B-29. The Vickers C often gets a bit more attention, but it is a nice image. Looking a picture the Vickers C is a pusher, do not know what speed advantage a pusher has versus a tractor. |
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Post by nicksumner on Oct 27, 2021 19:27:07 GMT
lordroel, its certainly more capable than the B29, but of a similar technological level. The B36 is significantly more advanced. simon darkshade, I've assumed the British AM will be a little leary of something as radical as the Vickers schemes 'C' which was drawn at roughly the same time.
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Post by lordroel on Oct 28, 2021 3:36:10 GMT
lordroel, its certainly more capable than the B29, but of a similar technological level. The B36 is significantly more advanced. simon darkshade, I've assumed the British AM will be a little leary of something as radical as the Vickers schemes 'C' which was drawn at roughly the same time. So what would be use use of Vickers 'Vindex', in Europe the RAF can hit Berlin with OTL bombers from basses in the United Kingdom, in the Pacfic i can see good use with the RAAF able to strike much farther than OTL with a bomber like the Vickers 'Vindex'. |
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Post by nicksumner on Oct 28, 2021 14:59:36 GMT
In OTL the RAF operated a medium altitude night attack force - the Halifaxs Lancasters Wellingtons etc - Vindex would give them a high altitude capability they sorely lacked in OTL. It can also carry very large bombs long distances...
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Post by lordroel on Oct 28, 2021 15:15:20 GMT
In OTL the RAF operated a medium altitude night attack force - the Halifaxs Lancasters Wellingtons etc - Vindex would give them a high altitude capability they sorely lacked in OTL. It can also carry very large bombs long distances... Hitting targets from the United kingdom to the oil fields at Ploesti range. |
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Post by stevep on Oct 29, 2021 9:57:16 GMT
In OTL the RAF operated a medium altitude night attack force - the Halifaxs Lancasters Wellingtons etc - Vindex would give them a high altitude capability they sorely lacked in OTL. It can also carry very large bombs long distances...
Could I be reading too much into those three words or are you talking about the likes of Tallboy, Grand Slam and their successors.
I haven't read beyond the 1st book and that was some while back but did the Nazis take most of European Russia? In which case Baku could also be a key target, although that might be best attacked by shorter range stuff if we still have bases in the ME. However somewhere along the Volga or Urals could be a pig if they got that far.
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Post by nicksumner on Oct 29, 2021 11:01:54 GMT
In OTL the RAF operated a medium altitude night attack force - the Halifaxs Lancasters Wellingtons etc - Vindex would give them a high altitude capability they sorely lacked in OTL. It can also carry very large bombs long distances... Could I be reading too much into those three words or are you talking about the likes of Tallboy, Grand Slam and their successors. I haven't read beyond the 1st book and that was some while back but did the Nazis take most of European Russia? In which case Baku could also be a key target, although that might be best attacked by shorter range stuff if we still have bases in the ME. However somewhere along the Volga or Urals could be a pig if they got that far.
No, I do mean Earthquake bombs up to the US 'Cloudmaker' size, as well as other nastier things...
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Post by stevep on Oct 29, 2021 11:28:07 GMT
Could I be reading too much into those three words or are you talking about the likes of Tallboy, Grand Slam and their successors. I haven't read beyond the 1st book and that was some while back but did the Nazis take most of European Russia? In which case Baku could also be a key target, although that might be best attacked by shorter range stuff if we still have bases in the ME. However somewhere along the Volga or Urals could be a pig if they got that far.
No, I do mean Earthquake bombs up to the US 'Cloudmaker' size, as well as other nastier things...
This is a map of Europe in 1943 in the Drake's Drum timeline.
Ouch, nasty. Especially if you happen to be Slavic.  |
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Post by simon darkshade on Oct 29, 2021 12:24:43 GMT
The other advantage of a big bomber is that it can carry a lot of heavy smaller bombs - 2000lb penetration bombs, particularly. In APOD, following up Bomber Command visits with high altitude penetration raids resulted in really wrecking the infrastructure (water, gas, sewage) and making cities uninhabitable.
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Post by lordroel on Oct 30, 2021 13:09:58 GMT
Could I be reading too much into those three words or are you talking about the likes of Tallboy, Grand Slam and their successors. I haven't read beyond the 1st book and that was some while back but did the Nazis take most of European Russia? In which case Baku could also be a key target, although that might be best attacked by shorter range stuff if we still have bases in the ME. However somewhere along the Volga or Urals could be a pig if they got that far.
No, I do mean Earthquake bombs up to the US 'Cloudmaker' size, as well as other nastier things...
This is a map of Europe in 1943 in the Drake's Drum timeline. Seems that the Vickers 'Vindex' can reach targets i assume as far as Muscovy and the Caucasus. |
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Post by stevep on Oct 30, 2021 13:53:11 GMT
Could I be reading too much into those three words or are you talking about the likes of Tallboy, Grand Slam and their successors. I haven't read beyond the 1st book and that was some while back but did the Nazis take most of European Russia? In which case Baku could also be a key target, although that might be best attacked by shorter range stuff if we still have bases in the ME. However somewhere along the Volga or Urals could be a pig if they got that far.
No, I do mean Earthquake bombs up to the US 'Cloudmaker' size, as well as other nastier things...
This is a map of Europe in 1943 in the Drake's Drum timeline.
Only just noticed the disappearance of the cuckoo clock!
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Post by nicksumner on Oct 31, 2021 11:40:45 GMT
No, I do mean Earthquake bombs up to the US 'Cloudmaker' size, as well as other nastier things...
This is a map of Europe in 1943 in the Drake's Drum timeline.
Only just noticed the disappearance of the cuckoo clock!
Sounds a bit like Orson Wells famous line from The Third Man... |
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