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Post by James G on Jul 24, 2021 19:45:40 GMT
I was reading this earlier: en.wikipedia.org/wiki/National_Response_Scenario_Number_One It is apparently the outline of how the US Government would deal with a nuclear terrorist attack against a city: most likely either DC or New York. The scenario is a 10kt backpack, or van, bomb at ground level in the heart of a city. That is a favourite of fiction writers (I've even done one). Tens of thousands dead either outright or soon afterwards. 300 square miles of ruined, poisoned land. National economic upheaval, a shadow government, wartime footing etc. It is pretty scary stuff. |
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Post by lordroel on Jul 24, 2021 19:52:04 GMT
I was reading this earlier: en.wikipedia.org/wiki/National_Response_Scenario_Number_One It is apparently the outline of how the US Government would deal with a nuclear terrorist attack against a city: most likely either DC or New York. The scenario is a 10kt backpack, or van, bomb at ground level in the heart of a city. That is a favourite of fiction writers (I've even done one). Tens of thousands dead either outright or soon afterwards. 300 square miles of ruined, poisoned land. National economic upheaval, a shadow government, wartime footing etc. It is pretty scary stuff. Would the reaction be like 9/11, the closest we ever come to a 1K+ terrorist attack. |
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Post by Zyobot on Jul 24, 2021 19:54:14 GMT
I was reading this earlier: en.wikipedia.org/wiki/National_Response_Scenario_Number_One It is apparently the outline of how the US Government would deal with a nuclear terrorist attack against a city: most likely either DC or New York. The scenario is a 10kt backpack, or van, bomb at ground level in the heart of a city. That is a favourite of fiction writers (I've even done one). Tens of thousands dead either outright or soon afterwards. 300 square miles of ruined, poisoned land. National economic upheaval, a shadow government, wartime footing etc. It is pretty scary stuff. Would the reaction be like 9/11, the closest we ever come to a 1K+ terrorist attack. I think it was almost 3,000 people killed, actually. Or, did you mean to say ~10,000? |
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Post by lordroel on Jul 24, 2021 19:55:51 GMT
Would the reaction be like 9/11, the closest we ever come to a 1K+ terrorist attack. I think it was almost 3,000 people killed, actually. Or, did you mean to say ~10,000? Sorry should have say 3K +. |
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Post by Zyobot on Jul 24, 2021 19:56:40 GMT
I think it was almost 3,000 people killed, actually. Or, did you mean to say ~10,000? Sorry should have say 3K +. No problem. |
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Post by gillan1220 on Jul 27, 2021 12:05:57 GMT
Reminds me of this video I watched before.
Nuclear Nightmare in Washington
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Post by James G on Jul 27, 2021 18:28:04 GMT
Reminds me of this video I watched before. Nuclear Nightmare in WashingtonI saw the name William Perry at the end of that. Former SecDef, not a nobody and no one's fool. |
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Post by halferking on Jul 27, 2021 19:00:48 GMT
Report from CNN on a government study of what would happen if a 10 kiloton bomb went off in Washington DC.
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Post by halferking on Jul 27, 2021 19:15:42 GMT
I don't know how scientific this is but here is a map that might help you get an idea of the destruction a 10kt bomb would do to various cities. nuclearsecrecy.com/nukemap/ |
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Post by James G on Aug 1, 2021 18:20:00 GMT
I don't know how scientific this is but here is a map that might help you get an idea of the destruction a 10kt bomb would do to various cities. nuclearsecrecy.com/nukemap/I like that site: I've blown up a lot of places to be fair. |
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Post by 1bigrich on Aug 1, 2021 22:51:26 GMT
On 9/11, US nuclear bombers were in the air, SSBN were heading for launch positions and silo doors were opened in the continental US.
Strategically, there was a lot of speculation a Soviet/Russian attack would see a number of terrorist attacks first to disrupt the US military and spread chaos.
As I recall, when word of the attacks got out, Quadaffi's Libya immediately communicated they had nothing to with them.
I would think if it were a scenario like September 11th, where the US finds the responsible party/parties are being sheltered by a given nation, there would be an ultimatum: Turn the suspects over or you capital will be hit by a counter-strike.
My thoughts,
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Post by gillan1220 on Aug 2, 2021 3:16:01 GMT
On 9/11, US nuclear bombers were in the air, SSBN were heading for launch positions and silo doors were opened in the continental US. Strategically, there was a lot of speculation a Soviet/Russian attack would see a number of terrorist attacks first to disrupt the US military and spread chaos. As I recall, when word of the attacks got out, Quadaffi's Libya immediately communicated they had nothing to with them. I would think if it were a scenario like September 11th, where the US finds the responsible party/parties are being sheltered by a given nation, there would be an ultimatum: Turn the suspects over or you capital will be hit by a counter-strike. My thoughts, The E-4B Nightwatch (or NEACP) was airborne above D.C. after 9/11. Even Saddam offered his condolences and denied Iraqi involvement. I remember back then even as a kid, Saddam was the suspect to 9/11. People thought there was a connection between OBL and Saddam but that was the opposite. OBL did volunteer with Afghan War veterans to fight Saddam's forces during Desert Storm but was denied by King Fahd who prefered the U.S. instead. OBL saw this as desecrating the Holy Land of Islam. |
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Post by James G on Aug 2, 2021 6:55:53 GMT
On 9/11, US nuclear bombers were in the air, SSBN were heading for launch positions and silo doors were opened in the continental US. Strategically, there was a lot of speculation a Soviet/Russian attack would see a number of terrorist attacks first to disrupt the US military and spread chaos. As I recall, when word of the attacks got out, Quadaffi's Libya immediately communicated they had nothing to with them. I would think if it were a scenario like September 11th, where the US finds the responsible party/parties are being sheltered by a given nation, there would be an ultimatum: Turn the suspects over or you capital will be hit by a counter-strike. My thoughts, The E-4B Nightwatch (or NEACP) was airborne above D.C. after 9/11. Even Saddam offered his condolences and denied Iraqi involvement. I remember back then even as a kid, Saddam was the suspect to 9/11. People thought there was a connection between OBL and Saddam but that was the opposite. OBL did volunteer with Afghan War veterans to fight Saddam's forces during Desert Storm but was denied by King Fahd who prefered the U.S. instead. OBL saw this as desecrating the Holy Land of Islam. Are you sure about Iraq there? Libya, Cuba, North Korea, Iran etc yes, but Iraq? I remember that murual in Iraq of the Twin Towers and Saddam with his cigar. |
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Post by halferking on Aug 2, 2021 7:26:28 GMT
I don't know how scientific this is but here is a map that might help you get an idea of the destruction a 10kt bomb would do to various cities. nuclearsecrecy.com/nukemap/I like that site: I've blown up a lot of places to be fair. You're welcome. |
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Post by gillan1220 on Aug 2, 2021 8:17:06 GMT
The E-4B Nightwatch (or NEACP) was airborne above D.C. after 9/11. Even Saddam offered his condolences and denied Iraqi involvement. I remember back then even as a kid, Saddam was the suspect to 9/11. People thought there was a connection between OBL and Saddam but that was the opposite. OBL did volunteer with Afghan War veterans to fight Saddam's forces during Desert Storm but was denied by King Fahd who prefered the U.S. instead. OBL saw this as desecrating the Holy Land of Islam. Are you sure about Iraq there? Libya, Cuba, North Korea, Iran etc yes, but Iraq? I remember that murual in Iraq of the Twin Towers and Saddam with his cigar. First America's enemies did celebrate but later offered their condolences and condemnation. |
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