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Post by stevep on Aug 4, 2024 9:40:19 GMT
I suspect Bab5, if it exists in TTL would be substantially different. Your less likely to see the idea of a unified Earth government and probably a less idyllic stance throughout by the Babylon crew. OTL 90's were substantially more idealist and upbeat than I suspect the FAM TL would be.
What about Space: 1999, created in OTL 1975 in the FAM verse by that year the Soviets and American already have a Lunar base in operation.
I had forgotten about that. Probably wouldn't exist but if it did you would likely have a lot more interaction between those two and possibly other factions on the moon as they sought to overcome suspicion of each other and combine their resources to meet the problems they face. Also you probably won't have the moon being used as a dumping ground for radioactive waste - which was the rather idiotic excuse for why the moon suddenly blasted out of orbit.
Also you probably wouldn't have UFO, which I've seen a few episodes of being repeated currently on one of the free-view channels. Reading the link it actually was planned to have a 2nd series set 29 years later and which became Space 1999 but that had a totally different caste and also presumably a totally different plot as there was no alien threat to Earth in Space 1999. Never realised the link between the two.
One other issue was that both series were British based, as can be seen with Shado (an acronym for Supreme Headquarters Alien Defence Organisation) being centred in Britain and also both had a distinctly European/International caste which may not be the case in any FAM series as international rivaries would be stronger I suspect. Unless they were still British based possibly?
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Post by lordroel on Aug 4, 2024 9:45:17 GMT
What about Space: 1999, created in OTL 1975 in the FAM verse by that year the Soviets and American already have a Lunar base in operation. I had forgotten about that. Probably wouldn't exist but if it did you would likely have a lot more interaction between those two and possibly other factions on the moon as they sought to overcome suspicion of each other and combine their resources to meet the problems they face. Also you probably won't have the moon being used as a dumping ground for radioactive waste - which was the rather idiotic excuse for why the moon suddenly blasted out of orbit. Also you probably wouldn't have UFO, which I've seen a few episodes of being repeated currently on one of the free-view channels. Reading the link it actually was planned to have a 2nd series set 29 years later and which became Space 1999 but that had a totally different caste and also presumably a totally different plot as there was no alien threat to Earth in Space 1999. Never realised the link between the two. One other issue was that both series were British based, as can be seen with Shado (an acronym for Supreme Headquarters Alien Defence Organisation) being centred in Britain and also both had a distinctly European/International caste which may not be the case in any FAM series as international rivaries would be stronger I suspect. Unless they were still British based possibly? The United Kingdom in the FAM verse is already complete difference: FAM Wiki article on United Kingdom1981: Crown Prince Charles marries married Camilla Parker Bowles. October 12th 1984; Margaret Thatcher, the first female Prime Minister of the UK, is killed in a bombing on the Brighton Grand. |
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Post by stevep on Aug 4, 2024 9:47:26 GMT
I had forgotten about that. Probably wouldn't exist but if it did you would likely have a lot more interaction between those two and possibly other factions on the moon as they sought to overcome suspicion of each other and combine their resources to meet the problems they face. Also you probably won't have the moon being used as a dumping ground for radioactive waste - which was the rather idiotic excuse for why the moon suddenly blasted out of orbit. Also you probably wouldn't have UFO, which I've seen a few episodes of being repeated currently on one of the free-view channels. Reading the link it actually was planned to have a 2nd series set 29 years later and which became Space 1999 but that had a totally different caste and also presumably a totally different plot as there was no alien threat to Earth in Space 1999. Never realised the link between the two. One other issue was that both series were British based, as can be seen with Shado (an acronym for Supreme Headquarters Alien Defence Organisation) being centred in Britain and also both had a distinctly European/International caste which may not be the case in any FAM series as international rivaries would be stronger I suspect. Unless they were still British based possibly? The United Kingdom in the FAM verse is already complete difference: FAM Wiki article on United Kingdom1981: Crown Prince Charles marries married Camilla Parker Bowles. October 12th 1984; Margaret Thatcher, the first female Prime Minister of the UK, is killed in a bombing on the Brighton Grand.
I think there's a bug in that link as it just loops back to this page.
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Post by lordroel on Aug 4, 2024 9:51:37 GMT
The United Kingdom in the FAM verse is already complete difference: FAM Wiki article on United Kingdom1981: Crown Prince Charles marries married Camilla Parker Bowles. October 12th 1984; Margaret Thatcher, the first female Prime Minister of the UK, is killed in a bombing on the Brighton Grand. I think there's a bug in that link as it just loops back to this page. Steve
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Post by stevep on Aug 4, 2024 10:10:06 GMT
I think there's a bug in that link as it just loops back to this page. Steve
Fixed.
Thanks. Obviously glad about 1986. D)
Charles marrying Camila presumably means a better life for Diana than OTL. Presumably she divorced her husband earlier in the FAM TL and Charles was able to persuade his family she was OK as a wife. Doesn't mention whether any children which could be bad as that would leave Andrew as the heir!
With Thatcher's death a lot would depend on events afterwards. Would have much preferred say the Falkland's war being averted and the Tories falling in 1983 as a better path for the UK as it gives more chance of Thatcherism being removed from the country and a more rational and responsible economic and social policy being possible. Could save many lives and a lot of misery and money over the intervening decades. Mind you her assassination could mean a wider condemnation of IRA/SF and their clear defeat.
Anyway interesting thanks.
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Post by lordroel on Aug 4, 2024 10:12:34 GMT
Would have much preferred say the Falkland's war being averted
The writers would have done the same with the Falklands as they did with Kuwait which unlike OTL is still part of Iraq in the FAM verse. |
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Post by stevep on Aug 4, 2024 14:59:05 GMT
Would have much preferred say the Falkland's war being averted
The writers would have done the same with the Falklands as they did with Kuwait which unlike OTL is still part of Iraq in the FAM verse.
Well OTL it was never part of Iraq other than the brief occupation in 1990-91 so was that allowed to stand in FAM? That would have a hell of a lot of repercussions in the ME and around the world.
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Post by lordroel on Aug 4, 2024 15:18:01 GMT
The writers would have done the same with the Falklands as they did with Kuwait which unlike OTL is still part of Iraq in the FAM verse. Well OTL it was never part of Iraq other than the brief occupation in 1990-91 so was that allowed to stand in FAM? That would have a hell of a lot of repercussions in the ME and around the world.
By 1990 oil was not worth much, so no need to go to war over it. |
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Post by stevep on Aug 5, 2024 14:44:37 GMT
Well OTL it was never part of Iraq other than the brief occupation in 1990-91 so was that allowed to stand in FAM? That would have a hell of a lot of repercussions in the ME and around the world.
By 1990 oil was not worth much, so no need to go to war over it.
Ah so I assume fusion became practical? Would still need something for transport - motor vehicles from personal cars/bikes up to large trucks, ships of all sizes and aircraft I would have thought.
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Post by lordroel on Aug 5, 2024 14:51:44 GMT
By 1990 oil was not worth much, so no need to go to war over it. Ah so I assume fusion became practical? Would still need something for transport - motor vehicles from personal cars/bikes up to large trucks, ships of all sizes and aircraft I would have thought.
Yep, clean safe nuclear fusion which saw more Electric cars coming on the road then OTL, this cause the prize of Oil to drop significantly. Also this person was president: Gary Hart who unlike Bush Sr who was more hawkish did not feel it worth to get the United States involved in a war which mostly was about Oil. |
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Post by michelvan on Sept 13, 2024 7:30:19 GMT
new uniform the mission patch say it Saturn - TITAN ?  |
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Post by lordroel on Sept 13, 2024 7:50:40 GMT
new uniform the mission patch say it Saturn - TITAN ? He still alive, even in the new season. |
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Post by michelvan on Sept 13, 2024 9:14:55 GMT
if Edward "Ed" Baldwin, born in 1932.
he would be 78 years old in season 5
since he life on Mars since season 4 (2000s)
under lower gravity he could be in better medical condition as on Earth...
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Post by lordroel on Oct 18, 2024 21:04:06 GMT
For All Mankind’ Adds Sean Kaufman, Ruby Cruz & Ines Asserson To Season 5 CastSean Kaufman (The Summer I Turned Pretty), Ruby Cruz (Bottoms) and Ines Asserson (Royalteen) are set as series regulars in Season 5 of Apple TV+‘s For All Mankind. They join previously announced new series regulars Mireille Enos and Costa Ronin and returning cast Joel Kinnaman, Wrenn Schmidt, Krys Marshall, Edi Gathegi, Cynthy Wu, Coral Peña, Toby Kebbell, Tyner Rushing, Daniel Stern and Svetlana Efremova.
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