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Post by gillan1220 on Apr 4, 2021 15:55:49 GMT
CAFGUs were only created at the time of Corazon Aqunino and as kyuzoaoi pointed out, the Tadiar Youth are indeed like the Waffen SS or even the Red Guards. Speaking of pop-culture, you mentioned about Crazy Rich Asians. It is likely a coincidence to have the same title but having it as a carbon copy of OTL (i.e. same actors, same lines spoken, same director) is unlikely because of the butterflies. |
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Post by TheRomanSlayer on Apr 4, 2021 16:41:45 GMT
CAFGUs were only created at the time of Corazon Aqunino and as kyuzoaoi pointed out, the Tadiar Youth are indeed like the Waffen SS or even the Red Guards. Speaking of pop-culture, you mentioned about Crazy Rich Asians. It is likely a coincidence to have the same title but having it as a carbon copy of OTL (i.e. same actors, same lines spoken, same director) is unlikely because of the butterflies. TTL’s Crazy Rich Asians would be more like OTL’s Great Gatsby, if it mated with Taiwanese soap operas. I could do a retcon and have Eurasian Delights be the Crazy Rich Asians of TTL, but more Turks and Russians than an all-Asian cast. |
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Post by TheRomanSlayer on Apr 4, 2021 16:49:29 GMT
Well finally a footie success.  No dramatic victories like OTL like over the Netherlands but a steady performance including that extreme rarity of a penalty shoot-out win by England!  Although that's how we defeated Spain in the quarter finals OTL. Good touch having Southgate scoring the winning goal compared to his OTL penalty miss in the semis. The dramatic thing was the Germans failing to get to the knock out stage. Good performance by Wales as well.
In the Philippines the Taidar regime seems to be doing lasting damage to its society. Its going to take an age to overcome the deeply repressive and militaristic tendencies he's embedding in the country.
Given the disastrous performance by Germany in the OTL 2018 World Cup and the recent shocking 2-1 loss to North Macedonia, I would think that a similar scenario like this could also happen as well.Plus they had won the previous tournament ITTL, so the championship hangover is worse this time around. Wales’s performance was due to Hoddle relying on his experience from his short stint with the England team this time around. Tadiar’s tricameral experiment goes off with a horrible start, since not a lot of nations normally adopt tricameralism. |
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Post by gillan1220 on Apr 4, 2021 17:10:01 GMT
CAFGUs were only created at the time of Corazon Aqunino and as kyuzoaoi pointed out, the Tadiar Youth are indeed like the Waffen SS or even the Red Guards. Speaking of pop-culture, you mentioned about Crazy Rich Asians. It is likely a coincidence to have the same title but having it as a carbon copy of OTL (i.e. same actors, same lines spoken, same director) is unlikely because of the butterflies. TTL’s Crazy Rich Asians would be more like OTL’s Great Gatsby, if it mated with Taiwanese soap operas. I could do a retcon and have Eurasian Delights be the Crazy Rich Asians of TTL, but more Turks and Russians than an all-Asian cast. I hope it won't have the corny ending of the guy proposing to his GF on board a plane. I was literally face palming during that scene. |
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Post by TheRomanSlayer on Apr 4, 2021 17:27:44 GMT
Anyways though, with Legarda having enough support from the populace and supposedly enough political capital to be president (thanks to her being an Air Force officer), will she finally proscribe the atrocious gaming practices of the military? You know, the coolness of the Scout Rangers would be for naught if they are killing babies in the process (or worse, turning them as a goon for Faeldon's youth group). More importantly, does the military (and perhaps, the society itself if the cadet program got that far and effective) see her favourably, let alone consider her as "one of them"? Before that though, would those cadet programs be more suppored ITTL, let alone be much more effective in teaching its lessons? How insidious would its culture also be? Its instructors must have been so storied with the atrocities that they participated in. Is there also anything left of the Philippine Left, has the general society turned full-on "fascists of the rally-to-the-state hurr durr, kind" against who they want to think as their enemies? Yes, she eventually would do that. Moreover, Legarda would be the one responsible for turning over most of the figures from the Tadiar regime to the Hague, to stand trial for war crimes, and crimes against humanity. However, none of the high school graduates who fought in Korea would be charged, on account that they were brainwashed as kids. The military could see her as one of them, although how far she would put up with the crimes of the second dictatorship is up for debate. The Philippine Left would emerge in the diasporas, as evident by the small scale support for Lyndon LaRouche, but you might also see some slight change of support towards the Libertarians, come around 2004. I would say this though: Red-tagging in the Philippines ITTL could literally mean life or death. The cadet programs in the Philippines ITTL would be more effective in teaching its members how to handle weapons more effectively. There is a previous update about a former soldier whose father had built the country's first indigenous designed bullpup rifle, and that will be coming back later on. Although I would not be surprised if in any future political rallies, there will be a group of people who would cover their heads with bayong baskets, mimicking a certain collaborationist group from the war. TTL’s Crazy Rich Asians would be more like OTL’s Great Gatsby, if it mated with Taiwanese soap operas. I could do a retcon and have Eurasian Delights be the Crazy Rich Asians of TTL, but more Turks and Russians than an all-Asian cast. I hope it won't have the corny ending of the guy proposing to his GF on board a plane. I was literally face palming during that scene. I don't think so. Like you said in the earlier post, it might have a completely different plot due to butterflies. Yes, TTL's Eurasian Delight would have an earlier interaction between Henry Golding and Emilia Clarke than OTL's Last Christmas. |
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Post by simeon on Apr 5, 2021 1:48:20 GMT
The cadet programs in the Philippines ITTL would be more effective in teaching its members how to handle weapons more effectively. There is a previous update about a former soldier whose father had built the country's first indigenous designed bullpup rifle, and that will be coming back later on. So much expenditure on guns; I was just expecting of them to be more cognizant of military norms in so that they could be much more effectively called into a much more realistic and attainable militia (instead of expecting them to become members of a regular standing army like the OTL pipe dream), but holy fuck that family must have made quite a buck out of supplying trainer weaponry. In hindsight, it was a blessing that the OTL 90's consensus was butterflied away or else the eventual Republicans would have long creamed their pants on this monstrosity of a Prussia-lite Bansa ng Gamer/Estado de Gamer/Geima no Joutai. |
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Post by TheRomanSlayer on Apr 5, 2021 2:31:31 GMT
The cadet programs in the Philippines ITTL would be more effective in teaching its members how to handle weapons more effectively. There is a previous update about a former soldier whose father had built the country's first indigenous designed bullpup rifle, and that will be coming back later on. So much expenditure on guns; I was just expecting of them to be more cognizant of military norms in so that they could be much more effectively called into a much more realistic and attainable militia (instead of expecting them to become members of a regular standing army like the OTL pipe dream), but holy fuck that family must have made quite a buck out of supplying trainer weaponry. In hindsight, it was a blessing that the OTL 90's consensus was butterflied away or else the eventual Republicans would have long creamed their pants on this monstrosity of a Prussia-lite Bansa ng Gamer/Estado de Gamer/Geima no Joutai.Well, the arms embargo was a major factor in why the Philippines ITTL decided to create their own arms industry. IOTL, farmers often supplemented their meagre income earned from crop sales with manufacturing of illegal handguns. Well, it's basically this ITTL, but on steroids. That family who owns several factories making guns are pretty much set for life. Indonesia is pretty much helping the Philippines rebuild their agricultural capabilities, plus the lack of foodstuffs have forced the Tadiar regime into promoting shark meat as a good alternative source of seafood, and carabao milk would be more popular ITTL than regular cow's milk, though it would depend on how popular carabao ranching would be. Unfortunately, we would also see a more popular demand for carabao meat as well. Right now, Tadiar's Philippines is basically a tropical version of OTL North Korea, without the border crossings, making defections even more dangerous. However, the Philippine Navy itself would engage in state-sponsored piracy, making them, and the other branches of the AFP complicit with their ties to organized crime groups and SE Asian pirates. Look to see the Yakuza getting involved in profiting from the looting of the sea lanes used by China. |
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Post by simeon on Apr 5, 2021 2:45:37 GMT
Well, the arms embargo was a major factor in why the Philippines ITTL decided to create their own arms industry. IOTL, farmers often supplemented their meagre income earned from crop sales with manufacturing of illegal handguns. Well, it's basically this ITTL, but on steroids. That family who owns several factories making guns are pretty much set for life. So, they had the advantage of centralising cheap and desperate labour. the lack of foodstuffs have forced the Tadiar regime into promoting shark meat as a good alternative source of seafood I wonder if it would increase the lead and mercury levels in that particular generation. I hope they could find some wisdom into turning those into Hakarl first. Right now, Tadiar's Philippines is basically a tropical version of OTL North Korea, without the border crossings, making defections even more dangerous. However, the Philippine Navy itself would engage in state-sponsored piracy, making them, and the other branches of the AFP complicit with their ties to organized crime groups and SE Asian pirates. Look to see the Yakuza getting involved in profiting from the looting of the sea lanes used by China. They're lucky that they had somewhat good farmlands, and a government - in spite of its obvious shortcomings and evil - willing to do reasonable land reform. So much luck in having the resources in building up the AFParadise, huh? Right now, Tadiar's Philippines is basically a tropical version of OTL North Korea, without the border crossings, making defections even more dangerous. - Loren Legarda, probably. |
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Post by TheRomanSlayer on Apr 5, 2021 3:02:53 GMT
Trying to extract the mercury from the sharks would be a challenge, but Hakarl would be a good kind of shark meat, as well as whale meat. I can see the Japanese driving more whales into extinction through whaling, just to feed a million starving Filipinos. I can see Greenpeace being up in arms about this, and Tadiar would love to have some extra target practice.  Plus those farmers would also lose fingers from improper methods of building those cheap handguns. We are also touching base with the people from the earlier updates: Miriam Defensor Santiago, and Billy Bibit, one of the other RAM officers that the late Arturo Tolentino was supposed to call back when EDSA Uno was just starting to look like a blood bath. |
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Post by gillan1220 on Apr 5, 2021 3:14:31 GMT
Well, the arms embargo was a major factor in why the Philippines ITTL decided to create their own arms industry. IOTL, farmers often supplemented their meagre income earned from crop sales with manufacturing of illegal handguns. Well, it's basically this ITTL, but on steroids. That family who owns several factories making guns are pretty much set for life. I'm a moderator of a history group on Facebook called The Cold War in the Philippines and last Saturday, I posted a video about the early years of Japan's National Police Reserve (the immediate between the IJA and the JSDF). One thing I noted was the AFP in 1946 was stronger than the NPR. However, the JSDF eventually caught up in the 1950s and was force to be reckoned with by the 1980s. One of the users commented is that Japan has its own arms industry while the Philippines doesn't so that's why our AFP stagnated while the JSDF became somehow reliant. In this TL, will the US still sell the Aegis combat system to the JMSDF for their destroyers? Judging by the rise of a resurgent China, I guess Jackson would be pressured to convince Congress and the State Department to approve the sale of Aegis to the Japanese and the Taiwanese. Lastly, will we get a testimony of Hiroo Onoda on how he helped the Tadiar regime find the scattered Yamashita gold? He would probably regret it just like how Rogelio Roxas did during his testimony of Tadiar's trial in the Hague. If this interview occurs, then it has to be done before Onoda dies (as you said, Onoda still dies on time in 2014 for this TL). |
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Post by simeon on Apr 5, 2021 3:22:42 GMT
Plus those farmers would also lose fingers from improper methods of building those cheap handguns. Yeah, that too; I wouldn't put it above that family to ruthlessly exploit their monopoly over high-precision weapons manufacturing. I wonder why how the combined forces of US and PLA navies have failed to thwart Philippine piracy and its ramshackle ships however - oh wait, the sea is acknowledged as Chinese territory now! I guess that Philippines could make use of including some unscrupulous PLAN personnel in their regime in the region, or even put their stakes into establishing a foothold in Canton. |
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Post by TheRomanSlayer on Apr 5, 2021 4:07:02 GMT
Well, the arms embargo was a major factor in why the Philippines ITTL decided to create their own arms industry. IOTL, farmers often supplemented their meagre income earned from crop sales with manufacturing of illegal handguns. Well, it's basically this ITTL, but on steroids. That family who owns several factories making guns are pretty much set for life. I'm a moderator of a history group on Facebook called The Cold War in the Philippines and last Saturday, I posted a video about the early years of Japan's National Police Reserve (the immediate between the IJA and the JSDF). One thing I noted was the AFP in 1946 was stronger than the NPR. However, the JSDF eventually caught up in the 1950s and was force to be reckoned with by the 1980s. One of the users commented is that Japan has its own arms industry while the Philippines doesn't so that's why our AFP stagnated while the JSDF became somehow reliant. In this TL, will the US still sell the Aegis combat system to the JMSDF for their destroyers? Judging by the rise of a resurgent China, I guess Jackson would be pressured to convince Congress and the State Department to approve the sale of Aegis to the Japanese and the Taiwanese. Lastly, will we get a testimony of Hiroo Onoda on how he helped the Tadiar regime find the scattered Yamashita gold? He would probably regret it just like how Rogelio Roxas did during his testimony of Tadiar's trial in the Hague. If this interview occurs, then it has to be done before Onoda dies (as you said, Onoda still dies on time in 2014 for this TL). It would be Jack Kemp who might approve the sale of the Aegis combat system to Japan and Taiwan, given Jackson's reluctance to do so. Keep in mind that Japan might also be pressured into developing their defense industry as well, with the help of other nations. The Kemp administration would be interesting, since this is the era where Kemp would legitimize all the CIA covert activities, under the table. Plus those farmers would also lose fingers from improper methods of building those cheap handguns. Yeah, that too; I wouldn't put it above that family to ruthlessly exploit their monopoly over high-precision weapons manufacturing. I wonder why how the combined forces of US and PLA navies have failed to thwart Philippine piracy and its ramshackle ships however - oh wait, the sea is acknowledged as Chinese territory now! I guess that Philippines could make use of including some unscrupulous PLAN personnel in their regime in the region, or even put their stakes into establishing a foothold in Canton. Most of SE Asia is forced to acknowledge the Spratlys as Chinese territory, except for the Philippines. I doubt that Canton would be a good target for the Philippine Navy, unless they could establish a foothold in Vietnam instead, despite the ideological differences. |
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Post by kyuzoaoi on Apr 5, 2021 4:14:58 GMT
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Post by TheRomanSlayer on Apr 5, 2021 4:19:05 GMT
The electrical grid in the Philippines is damaged as a result of the bombing. Infrastructure would be a huge priority at this point, but thanks to sanctions, it would be more difficult. However, easing them up might allow electrical companies to invest in rebuilding those electrical grids. |
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Post by simeon on Apr 5, 2021 4:19:50 GMT
Most of SE Asia is forced to acknowledge the Spratlys as Chinese territory, except for the Philippines. I doubt that Canton would be a good target for the Philippine Navy, unless they could establish a foothold in Vietnam instead, despite the ideological differences. And that's why the US can't exactly secure the area - they are not interested to, and China's pride won't exactly let them. I think that the Tadiar regime would do everything not just to hamper China, but also to get some Dollars. I won't put it above them to also use Renminbi since they could still use it to bribe off officials in Southern China into looking away from their operations. I could also totally see them getting along with some of the Vietnamese once the navy realises that in spite of the country's communist ideals, many of the country's elements are just as enthusiastic in terms of owning China, that even without official relations due to Tadiar's irate hate boner towards communists of all stripes. |
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Although that's how we defeated Spain in the quarter finals OTL. Good touch having Southgate scoring the winning goal compared to his OTL penalty miss in the semis. The dramatic thing was the Germans failing to get to the knock out stage. Good performance by Wales as well.
