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Post by american2006 on Nov 19, 2020 20:07:02 GMT
For the sake of the hypothetical, let’s say it’s started in the 2050s, and nukes are NOT used. How would the battles and campaigns and such commence? What would the sides be?
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Post by James G on Nov 19, 2020 20:30:25 GMT
In that timeframe, I would be thinking that human casualties might be minimal. It would be robots killing robots.
Sides? So much depends on how the next three decades could go.
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Post by Zyobot on Nov 19, 2020 20:31:32 GMT
Even if no nukes are used for whatever reason, what about chemical and biological weapons--which will have had upwards of thirty years to advance between now and the 2050s? If tensions finally reach a boiling point between them (and I've a feeling it's only a matter of when for those two), might India and Pakistan be among the most ferocious in deploying such weapons against one another?
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Post by american2006 on Nov 19, 2020 22:42:04 GMT
In that timeframe, I would be thinking that human casualties might be minimal. It would be robots killing robots. Sides? So much depends on how the next three decades could go. Let's say things mostly stay the same, but tensions rise. Even if no nukes are used for whatever reason, what about chemical and biological weapons--which will have had upwards of thirty years to advance between now and the 2050s? If tensions finally reach a boiling point between them (and I've a feeling it's only a matter of when for those two), might India and Pakistan be among the most ferocious in deploying such weapons against one another? Let's assume they are used. I really wanted to see though how battles would play out. |
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Post by lordroel on Nov 20, 2020 3:50:28 GMT
In that timeframe, I would be thinking that human casualties might be minimal. It would be robots killing robots. Sides? So much depends on how the next three decades could go. Let's say things mostly stay the same, but tensions rise. Even if no nukes are used for whatever reason, what about chemical and biological weapons--which will have had upwards of thirty years to advance between now and the 2050s? If tensions finally reach a boiling point between them (and I've a feeling it's only a matter of when for those two), might India and Pakistan be among the most ferocious in deploying such weapons against one another? Let's assume they are used. I really wanted to see though how battles would play out. Well we have seen in the recent 2020 Nagorno-Karabakh war that use of loitering munition (also known as a suicide drone or kamikaze drone) will see a lot of action, depending on the countries who use this type of weapons. |
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Post by stevep on Nov 20, 2020 10:57:56 GMT
At 30 years distance and with how fluid the modern world and technology just about anything could happen. Depending on how things develop and who's involved it could be anything from largely cyber-tech and even more exotic forms of warfare with relatively few direct deaths or it could involve tens or hundreds of millions of fighters and/or casualties even without chemical or worse still advanced biological weapons being used. At the worst, given possible development in genetic knowledge you could have massive 'effect' genocide of entire population groups with the vast majority being killed possibly even before they know their under attack. Or some weapon, such as a nanotech device could run out of control and everybody dies.
My short piece - the death of Paris, on page 12 of the fan fiction thread - was part of a much larger TL covering much of the rest of the country. It is set about 10-20 years after the end of the 'Great War' which with its American counterpart ended up with world population reduced by far more than half in a prolonged struggle that in one form or another lasted over two decades. Its also in the early stage of a draft story which ends with another great war, albeit far, far less bloody. You could have any variant between the two or something even wilder.
I know most people are probably assuming a world war would include the at least two of the US, Russia and China with possibly also say Japan, some EU state and India as other major powers but we have no way of knowing whether any of the 1st three will even exist in 2050, even assuming no earlier disaster. Both China and Russia could well not be major players by then or China could be an overwhelmingly dominant power. .
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Post by american2006 on Nov 20, 2020 12:54:57 GMT
At 30 years distance and with how fluid the modern world and technology just about anything could happen. Depending on how things develop and who's involved it could be anything from largely cyber-tech and even more exotic forms of warfare with relatively few direct deaths or it could involve tens or hundreds of millions of fighters and/or casualties even without chemical or worse still advanced biological weapons being used. At the worst, given possible development in genetic knowledge you could have massive 'effect' genocide of entire population groups with the vast majority being killed possibly even before they know their under attack. Or some weapon, such as a nanotech device could run out of control and everybody dies.
My short piece - the death of Paris, on page 12 of the fan fiction thread - was part of a much larger TL covering much of the rest of the country. It is set about 10-20 years after the end of the 'Great War' which with its American counterpart ended up with world population reduced by far more than half in a prolonged struggle that in one form or another lasted over two decades. Its also in the early stage of a draft story which ends with another great war, albeit far, far less bloody. You could have any variant between the two or something even wilder.
I know most people are probably assuming a world war would include the at least two of the US, Russia and China with possibly also say Japan, some EU state and India as other major powers but we have no way of knowing whether any of the 1st three will even exist in 2050, even assuming no earlier disaster. Both China and Russia could well not be major players by then or China could be an overwhelmingly dominant power. .
Steve
Really the 2050 is just to keep out of current politics areas. For the sake of the hypothetical, let’s presume world power stay approximately the same as what it is now, with the US and China generally deemed the strongest countries, followed by India, Russia, Japan, and the EU, with other nations of various degrees of strength. |
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Post by gillan1220 on Nov 20, 2020 17:00:50 GMT
Probably like Call of Duty: Black Ops II and III.
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Post by alternatehistoryfox on Nov 25, 2020 3:37:47 GMT
For one, it would likely have drones be eliminated as a weapon system as systems designed to outright subvert them get deployed. Also, the moment a chemical or biological weapon gets deployed, the nukes will come out, especially if the latter get deployed.
If you actually read up on some of the techniques that been developing in the biotech field, well, let's just say it would likely result in some pure horrific GENOCIDE Man style 'reduce humanity from 9 billion to 3 billion' puke-fest, and that isn't accounting for some of the even horrific things that would likely be used as a final 'screw you' like turning entire ethnic groups into bioweapon carriers. [shivers]
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