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Post by simon darkshade on Nov 10, 2020 18:49:21 GMT
A little preview of the next chapter:
Stanley Barton paused in his private office. The first full Cabinet meeting of his new government would be an interesting one; whilst he had been in the shadow cabinet for a decade and knew and trusted his fellows, this would be a historic moment for the Labour Party in general. After over six and a half decades, this would be the first time that they had formed a government in their own right, albeit a minority one. He knew that for many, this would be the hour when they had long planned to bring about their plans and ambitions for a socialist future. Things had changed somewhat during his seven years as Leader of the Opposition, although he felt that he was still true to the soul of the party, which had never been something set in the stone of the late Victorian age, no matter how much the Marxians had tried to portray it as so.
However, this day would be significant for another reason as well: this would be the moment he unveiled the full details of his Grand Design to his colleagues. The basis of it had been percolating around in his head for almost four years, growing from the aftermath of the 1960 Crisis and the sea change in British strategic policy. The Tories had appraised the situation once the dust had settled and come to the same overall conclusion as him, but their subsequent reaction was substantially different to his own. Rather than progressively cut their cloth smaller to suit the limitations of the national purse, he wanted to increase the income to said purse and change the way it was spent. When faced with a mighty challenge, the only course of action was to rise to it with mighty endeavour and face the tides of fortune with hard mind and hard will, not embrace a gradual and comfortable decline to the ranks of the second-rate powers and also-rans.
He thought it a simple enough solution to a rather complex problem, but even the base issue could be broken down to a single concept: How was Britain going to solve the economic problem of the Cold War? The price of being a great power had never been small and the cost of the higher status of superpower was even more pronounced. The nuclear forces required to deter and, if need be, fight a hot war were extremely expensive; maintaining a conventional capacity for everything beyond that was also growing costlier by the year. In order to retain the former, that sine qua non of sitting at the top table, the Conservatives had begun to prune the latter, firstly in the 1961 Defence White Paper, then with subsequent measures, all the time insisting they would never countenance the very idea. In Barton’s view, it didn’t matter whether their actions were deliberate or simple misplaced economy, as the effect would be much the same: a diminution of British power that would flow onto the overall position of the country. For without real strength, there would be no British Empire, neither in its economic sense nor the political reality. Without that, they would be simply just another country in Europe, and not even the largest or richest at that. This strength wasn’t limited to the military sphere, but encompassed economic, industrial and political power; cut off one limb and the others would inevitably atrophy and wither. Give up the Middle East or Africa, let India fully drift away or fade away from South America and Asia and the rest would follow. For some, this would be an acceptable cost if they could build their own inward-looking socialist state here at home, but he viewed this too as shortsighted. A glorious utopia could be built for a little while, perhaps even decades, but then the cost of a cradle to grave welfare state would edge ever upward, just as the growth of the wealth of the nation slowed. The nation couldn’t pay itself more than it earned.
There had to be a way to provide for the people at home and maintain power around the world. He believed that he had found one. The path to both objectives came from the economic strength and wealth of Britain herself; the Commonwealth and Empire were increasingly vital contributors, but without the link of the metropole, the ties that bound them together were tenuous. If the British economy could launch itself forward into the future in a period of tremendous growth, in a new Industrial Revolution, then there would be an opportunity to remake its finances and secure the needs of peace and security at home and abroad. Specifically, this would entail using the growing windfall of oil and gas profits from the North Sea and the Middle East to create a national sovereign fund that would augment the pensions paid under National Insurance, but the greater part would come through targeted government investment and spending to drive up annual growth. This would have the effect of reducing and then eventually eliminating debt service payments and dramatically raising real spending on health and education, whilst allowing for a strong increase in the defence budget in this era of substantial capital expenditure. The great aim of Barton’s ‘Grand Design’ was to provide both guns and butter through growth; should it succeed, then the Britain of 1975 would have an economy of over £200,000 million, if not more, alongside a swelling national sovereign wealth fund to pay for the future and invest in the present.
It was a simple plan, but not without controversy.
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Post by stevep on Nov 11, 2020 11:28:24 GMT
A little preview of the next chapter: Stanley Barton paused in his private office. The first full Cabinet meeting of his new government would be an interesting one; whilst he had been in the shadow cabinet for a decade and knew and trusted his fellows, this would be a historic moment for the Labour Party in general. After over six and a half decades, this would be the first time that they had formed a government in their own right, albeit a minority one. He knew that for many, this would be the hour when they had long planned to bring about their plans and ambitions for a socialist future. Things had changed somewhat during his seven years as Leader of the Opposition, although he felt that he was still true to the soul of the party, which had never been something set in the stone of the late Victorian age, no matter how much the Marxians had tried to portray it as so. However, this day would be significant for another reason as well: this would be the moment he unveiled the full details of his Grand Design to his colleagues. The basis of it had been percolating around in his head for almost four years, growing from the aftermath of the 1960 Crisis and the sea change in British strategic policy. The Tories had appraised the situation once the dust had settled and come to the same overall conclusion as him, but their subsequent reaction was substantially different to his own. Rather than progressively cut their cloth smaller to suit the limitations of the national purse, he wanted to increase the income to said purse and change the way it was spent. When faced with a mighty challenge, the only course of action was to rise to it with mighty endeavour and face the tides of fortune with hard mind and hard will, not embrace a gradual and comfortable decline to the ranks of the second-rate powers and also-rans. He thought it a simple enough solution to a rather complex problem, but even the base issue could be broken down to a single concept: How was Britain going to solve the economic problem of the Cold War? The price of being a great power had never been small and the cost of the higher status of superpower was even more pronounced. The nuclear forces required to deter and, if need be, fight a hot war were extremely expensive; maintaining a conventional capacity for everything beyond that was also growing costlier by the year. In order to retain the former, that sine qua non of sitting at the top table, the Conservatives had begun to prune the latter, firstly in the 1961 Defence White Paper, then with subsequent measures, all the time insisting they would never countenance the very idea. In Barton’s view, it didn’t matter whether their actions were deliberate or simple misplaced economy, as the effect would be much the same: a diminution of British power that would flow onto the overall position of the country. For without real strength, there would be no British Empire, neither in its economic sense nor the political reality. Without that, they would be simply just another country in Europe, and not even the largest or richest at that. This strength wasn’t limited to the military sphere, but encompassed economic, industrial and political power; cut off one limb and the others would inevitably atrophy and wither. Give up the Middle East or Africa, let India fully drift away or fade away from South America and Asia and the rest would follow. For some, this would be an acceptable cost if they could build their own inward-looking socialist state here at home, but he viewed this too as shortsighted. A glorious utopia could be built for a little while, perhaps even decades, but then the cost of a cradle to grave welfare state would edge ever upward, just as the growth of the wealth of the nation slowed. The nation couldn’t pay itself more than it earned. There had to be a way to provide for the people at home and maintain power around the world. He believed that he had found one. The path to both objectives came from the economic strength and wealth of Britain herself; the Commonwealth and Empire were increasingly vital contributors, but without the link of the metropole, the ties that bound them together were tenuous. If the British economy could launch itself forward into the future in a period of tremendous growth, in a new Industrial Revolution, then there would be an opportunity to remake its finances and secure the needs of peace and security at home and abroad. Specifically, this would entail using the growing windfall of oil and gas profits from the North Sea and the Middle East to create a national sovereign fund that would augment the pensions paid under National Insurance, but the greater part would come through targeted government investment and spending to drive up annual growth. This would have the effect of reducing and then eventually eliminating debt service payments and dramatically raising real spending on health and education, whilst allowing for a strong increase in the defence budget in this era of substantial capital expenditure. The great aim of Barton’s ‘Grand Design’ was to provide both guns and butter through growth; should it succeed, then the Britain of 1975 would have an economy of over £200,000 million, if not more, alongside a swelling national sovereign wealth fund to pay for the future and invest in the present. It was a simple plan, but not without controversy.
Interesting. A definite touch of Wilson's "white heat of technology" although with the aim of maintaining and expanding both social services and a very large and broad military rather than just the 1st. If the government makes the right choices its practical for a while at least. The social side, provided major errors are avoided, is manageable, especially since it will increase wealth - at least until increasing numbers of very elderly cause increasing costs. The military side of maintaining a full superpower status in the longer run is more challenging as over time the continental sized powers will have the much greater human resources that would mean Britain continually hitting well above its weight. Unless Britain itself in some way greatly increases its size, especially demographically, for which there seems little opportunity.
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Post by simon darkshade on Nov 11, 2020 17:37:52 GMT
Steve, I’ll have to answer fully tomorrow.
For now, a little snippet of a different sort.
Simon
Barton Cabinet:
Prime Minister: Stanley Barton Chancellor of the Exchequer: Denis Healey Home Office: James Callaghan Secretary of State for Foreign Affairs: Anthony Crosland Minister of Defence: George Brown Lord President of the Council: Herbert Bowden Lord High Chancellor: Lord Blakeney * Lord Privy Seal: Lord Rhodes Attorney General: Sir Frederick Elwyn-Jones Solicitor General: Sir Dingle Foot President of the Board of Trade: Douglas Jay Colonial Secretary: Patrick Gordon Walker Commonwealth Secretary: Cledwyn Hughes Postmaster General: Ted Short Minister of Health: Kenneth Robinson Minister of Education: Reg Prentice Minister of Labour: Ray Gunter Minister of Power and Energy: Roy Mason Minister of Transport: Barbara Castle Minister of Supply: Fred Mulley Minister of Science and Technology: Harry Thornwood * Minister of Food and Agriculture: Fred Peart Minister of Information: Lord Blair of Wigan Pier Minister of Social Security: Tom Stephens * Minister of Space: John W. Harris Minister of Housing and Local Government: Douglas Houston Ministry of Works: Adam Wainwright * Minister for Administrative Affairs: Arthur Bottomley Secretary of State for Scotland: Willie Ross Secretary of State for Ireland: Peter McDonnell * Secretary of State for Wales: Jim Griffiths Secretary of State for Lyonesse: Sir William Mallalieu Secretary of State for War: Sir Richard Pendragon * First Lord of the Admiralty: Christopher Mayhew Secretary of State for Air: Lord Shackleton Secretary of State for Space: Sir Andrew Morgan *
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Post by simon darkshade on Nov 12, 2020 4:12:51 GMT
A little preview of the next chapter: Stanley Barton paused in his private office. The first full Cabinet meeting of his new government would be an interesting one; whilst he had been in the shadow cabinet for a decade and knew and trusted his fellows, this would be a historic moment for the Labour Party in general. After over six and a half decades, this would be the first time that they had formed a government in their own right, albeit a minority one. He knew that for many, this would be the hour when they had long planned to bring about their plans and ambitions for a socialist future. Things had changed somewhat during his seven years as Leader of the Opposition, although he felt that he was still true to the soul of the party, which had never been something set in the stone of the late Victorian age, no matter how much the Marxians had tried to portray it as so. However, this day would be significant for another reason as well: this would be the moment he unveiled the full details of his Grand Design to his colleagues. The basis of it had been percolating around in his head for almost four years, growing from the aftermath of the 1960 Crisis and the sea change in British strategic policy. The Tories had appraised the situation once the dust had settled and come to the same overall conclusion as him, but their subsequent reaction was substantially different to his own. Rather than progressively cut their cloth smaller to suit the limitations of the national purse, he wanted to increase the income to said purse and change the way it was spent. When faced with a mighty challenge, the only course of action was to rise to it with mighty endeavour and face the tides of fortune with hard mind and hard will, not embrace a gradual and comfortable decline to the ranks of the second-rate powers and also-rans. He thought it a simple enough solution to a rather complex problem, but even the base issue could be broken down to a single concept: How was Britain going to solve the economic problem of the Cold War? The price of being a great power had never been small and the cost of the higher status of superpower was even more pronounced. The nuclear forces required to deter and, if need be, fight a hot war were extremely expensive; maintaining a conventional capacity for everything beyond that was also growing costlier by the year. In order to retain the former, that sine qua non of sitting at the top table, the Conservatives had begun to prune the latter, firstly in the 1961 Defence White Paper, then with subsequent measures, all the time insisting they would never countenance the very idea. In Barton’s view, it didn’t matter whether their actions were deliberate or simple misplaced economy, as the effect would be much the same: a diminution of British power that would flow onto the overall position of the country. For without real strength, there would be no British Empire, neither in its economic sense nor the political reality. Without that, they would be simply just another country in Europe, and not even the largest or richest at that. This strength wasn’t limited to the military sphere, but encompassed economic, industrial and political power; cut off one limb and the others would inevitably atrophy and wither. Give up the Middle East or Africa, let India fully drift away or fade away from South America and Asia and the rest would follow. For some, this would be an acceptable cost if they could build their own inward-looking socialist state here at home, but he viewed this too as shortsighted. A glorious utopia could be built for a little while, perhaps even decades, but then the cost of a cradle to grave welfare state would edge ever upward, just as the growth of the wealth of the nation slowed. The nation couldn’t pay itself more than it earned. There had to be a way to provide for the people at home and maintain power around the world. He believed that he had found one. The path to both objectives came from the economic strength and wealth of Britain herself; the Commonwealth and Empire were increasingly vital contributors, but without the link of the metropole, the ties that bound them together were tenuous. If the British economy could launch itself forward into the future in a period of tremendous growth, in a new Industrial Revolution, then there would be an opportunity to remake its finances and secure the needs of peace and security at home and abroad. Specifically, this would entail using the growing windfall of oil and gas profits from the North Sea and the Middle East to create a national sovereign fund that would augment the pensions paid under National Insurance, but the greater part would come through targeted government investment and spending to drive up annual growth. This would have the effect of reducing and then eventually eliminating debt service payments and dramatically raising real spending on health and education, whilst allowing for a strong increase in the defence budget in this era of substantial capital expenditure. The great aim of Barton’s ‘Grand Design’ was to provide both guns and butter through growth; should it succeed, then the Britain of 1975 would have an economy of over £200,000 million, if not more, alongside a swelling national sovereign wealth fund to pay for the future and invest in the present. It was a simple plan, but not without controversy.
Interesting. A definite touch of Wilson's "white heat of technology" although with the aim of maintaining and expanding both social services and a very large and broad military rather than just the 1st. If the government makes the right choices its practical for a while at least. The social side, provided major errors are avoided, is manageable, especially since it will increase wealth - at least until increasing numbers of very elderly cause increasing costs. The military side of maintaining a full superpower status in the longer run is more challenging as over time the continental sized powers will have the much greater human resources that would mean Britain continually hitting well above its weight. Unless Britain itself in some way greatly increases its size, especially demographically, for which there seems little opportunity.
Steve, There is a hint of some of the Wilsonian ideas of the 1960s, albeit in a different context and from a different political angle. The overall aim of the Grand Design is to reform revenue so that pensions and welfare can be raised and funded into the future on a sustainable basis, which will provide for some return through economic activity. In terms of defence, there are several objectives: - Free up extra budget 'space' for investment in R&D, emergent technology, rising costs and equipment - Grow the economy so that a steady and sustainable percentage rate will mean that an additional portion of that cost can be covered; a 1975 GDP of 200 billion would mean a minimum defence budget of 15 billion at 7.5% - Reducing costs that Britain must bear on its own, such as air force training (through the revived British Commonwealth Air Training Plan); land, sea and air equipment development (the joint Anglo-American-Commonwealth ASW frigate being the first example) and joint funding of facilities - Invest more now when times are economically favourable rather than extend the schedule into a more nebulous future You are right on the money regarding the capacity of the 'continental superpowers' - the USA, Soviet Union and China. The smallest of those has a population over 250% of that of Britain by itself, which gives a long term advantage insofar as one aspect of potential economic growth. Here, up until the late 1950s, Britain had the force multiplier of India and particularly the Indian Army. However, Britain does have the 'inner Commonwealth' of Canada (+ Newfoundland and New Avalon), Australia (+ New Zealand) and South Africa (+ Rhodesia) which cooperates at a very close level economically, politically, militarily and strategically. Whilst the DE Commonwealth isn't anything like the stereotyped Imperial Federations seen in other cases, it is: A.) A formal military and strategic alliance B.) An economic union that is partway between a customs union and common market C.) A political confederation coordinated by the Imperial Council and gradually integrated through the Imperial Parliament D.) A combined scientific and technological group incorporating coordinated space and atomic energy research and development, among other key areas As the remaining Crown Colonies gain independence, the structure will shift to something more equitable with Britain as primus inter pares. It will also have different levels and circles of membership so that some nations can choose the level of their interaction and integration; this is particularly aimed at India. (From a broad authorial perspective, I've left India's status somewhat nebulous and subject to change and evolution to reflect a bit of realism and also to provide for some twists and turns in worldbuilding and unfolding stories.) One way that the issue of manpower, at least in a direct sense, is being approached is the development of the RAF as a broader Imperial force (similar to the Second World War model) and something similar with the Royal Navy. This entails opening recruitment to the Commonwealth as a whole as well as integrating the various national forces on an operational level. So far, this has taken the form of 'fleet units' and integrated tactical air forces in the Middle East and Far East. Simon
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Post by stevep on Nov 12, 2020 11:36:32 GMT
Steve, I’ll have to answer fully tomorrow. For now, a little snippet of a different sort. Simon Barton Cabinet: Prime Minister: Stanley Barton Chancellor of the Exchequer: Denis Healey Home Office: James Callaghan Secretary of State for Foreign Affairs: Anthony Crosland Minister of Defence: George Brown Lord President of the Council: Herbert Bowden Lord High Chancellor: Lord Blakeney * Lord Privy Seal: Lord Rhodes Attorney General: Sir Frederick Elwyn-Jones Solicitor General: Sir Dingle Foot President of the Board of Trade: Douglas Jay Colonial Secretary: Patrick Gordon Walker Commonwealth Secretary: Cledwyn Hughes Postmaster General: Ted Short Minister of Health: Kenneth Robinson Minister of Education: Reg Prentice Minister of Labour: Ray Gunter Minister of Power and Energy: Roy Mason Minister of Transport: Barbara Castle Minister of Supply: Fred Mulley Minister of Science and Technology: Harry Thornwood * Minister of Food and Agriculture: Fred Peart Minister of Information: Lord Blair of Wigan Pier Minister of Social Security: Tom Stephens * Minister of Space: John W. Harris Minister of Housing and Local Government: Douglas Houston Ministry of Works: Adam Wainwright Minister for Administrative Affairs: Arthur Bottomley Secretary of State for Scotland: Willie Ross Secretary of State for Ireland: Peter McDonnell * Secretary of State for Wales: Jim Griffiths Secretary of State for Lyonesse: Sir William Mallalieu Secretary of State for War: Sir Richard Pendragon * First Lord of the Admiralty: Christopher Mayhew Secretary of State for Air: Lord Shackleton Secretary of State for Space: Sir Andrew Morgan *
Are the ones marked with a * non-OTL people? I notice there's no Anthony Wedgewood-Benn but then his political attitude would be totally alien to DE Britain.
On your reply there is a possibility of a pseudo-Federation with the closer elements of the Commonwealth although getting it too close would be likely to be difficult for Canada as that would be likely to prompt tension with the US. Possibly also keeping close alliances with other parts of the empire, especially India would be a great force multiplier on both sides as Indian manpower [both militarily and economic] boost Britain while India gets access to wider resources.
In terms of demographic limitations, just to clarify I was referring less to military manpower than the broader economic and technological issues. Britain could still be a great[er] power militarily with a relatively small army but advanced technological base and a stronger element at sea, in the air and space.
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Post by simon darkshade on Nov 12, 2020 12:09:54 GMT
Steve,
Yes, that is an indicator of original/Dark Earth people. Anthony Wedgewood-Benn, along with the majority of the Bevanites, broke off to the Socialist Party in the 1950s split; on the other wing of the @ Labour Party, Roy Jenkins and others are members of the Liberals, who occupy the centrist ground in British politics. His attitudes are somewhat different, fitting the country and environment he and others have emerged from.
It isn't so much a future possibility but a current reality. The Canadian situation does cause a lot of grumpiness from the Americans, but the larger Canadian population and economy means that they aren't quite dwarfed to the same extent as in @.
India remains the jewel in the crown, most definitely. The question and the challenge is how to engineer an association that is acceptable to India in particular; whilst there hasn't been quite the same depth of adversarial relationship, there is still a great deal of natural nationalism and simple raw power.
Regarding the other Dominions and major colonies: - Malaya has fallen into a very pro-British position through necessity and the Indonesian situation - Singapore is even closer for the same reasons and the added ethnic differences with Malaya - Ceylon doesn't have another path to take at this time and benefits from the presence of the major RN base at Trincomalee - Kenya goes along with South Africa and Rhodesia in the white African bloc and this doesn't look like changing any time soon - The West Indies have the choice of keeping their own identity and preferential position within the Commonwealth, or becoming US puppet states like other parts of the independent Caribbean. At this stage, they go for the former. - Prydain is very much in the 'inner Commonwealth' in political and ethnic terms, but is too small and far away to fully be treated on the same level as the Big Three Dominions - The South Pacific colonies are a long way off quite a few developments
Regarding demography, I understood your meaning, but wanted to include reference to the military aspect as it was related. It is quite true that the largest impact doesn't come on the battlefield, but in the economy. In terms of potential coming from the confluence of demography and economy, the general ranking would be
1.) USA 2.) USSR 3.) China 4.) India 5.) Japan 6.) Germany
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Post by simon darkshade on Nov 12, 2020 15:08:50 GMT
A few of the little Easter eggs embedded in the Cabinet:
Lord Blakeney: A descendant of Sir Percy Blakeney, the Scarlet Pimpernel Adam Wainwright: Husband of Samantha Stewart from Foyle’s Was Sir Andrew Morgan: Better known as Captain Andrew “Jet” Morgan from the 1950s BBC radio series Journey Into Space; somewhat extra ironic as his voice actor in @, Andrew Faulds, became a Labour MP in 1967
And of course
Lord Blair of Wigan Pier = George Orwell
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Post by simon darkshade on Nov 12, 2020 15:16:59 GMT
As an extra addendum to the list of Commonwealth states and colonies, one in particular isn’t mentioned.
Israel.
This is because, of all of the Dominions in 1964 (and in 1966 for that matter), Israel is the most actively independently minded. This comes from the confluence of at least four major factors: religious differences, economic issues related to some of the more socialist leaning aspects of Zionism, political issues coming from ties with the United States; and its geographic position.
Whilst there is no question of a complete break, they are a state that will look to exercise more of the “opt out” options than the “opt in” ones.
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Post by lordroel on Nov 12, 2020 15:19:40 GMT
As an extra addendum to the list of Commonwealth states and colonies, one in particular isn’t mentioned. Israel. This is because, of all of the Dominions in 1964 (and in 1966 for that matter), Israel is the most actively independently minded. This comes from the confluence of at least four major factors: religious differences, economic issues related to some of the more socialist leaning aspects of Zionism, political issues coming from ties with the United States; and its geographic position. Whilst there is no question of a complete break, they are a state that will look to exercise more of the “opt out” options than the “opt in” ones. Israel is smart, they know that being in the Commonwealth is a fail safe if something ever happens.
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Post by simon darkshade on Nov 12, 2020 16:42:44 GMT
Certainly. Throw in the presence of the Mediterranean Fleet, the RAF Middle Eastern Air Force, a Sikh ‘division’ at Jerusalem and 4 British Army divisions at Suez and they’d be shooting themselves in the foot not utilise it.
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Post by stevep on Nov 13, 2020 11:38:18 GMT
A few of the little Easter eggs embedded in the Cabinet: Lord Blakeney: A descendant of Sir Percy Blakeney, the Scarlet Pimpernel Adam Wainwright: Husband of Samantha Stewart from Foyle’s Was Sir Andrew Morgan: Better known as Captain Andrew “Jet” Morgan from the 1950s BBC radio series Journey Into Space; somewhat extra ironic as his voice actor in @, Andrew Faulds, became a Labour MP in 1967 And of course Lord Blair of Wigan Pier = George Orwell
I did notice the obvious one, Sir Richard Pendragon but must admit those all got passed me. Especially the last one. So George is still alive and active. Very good.
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Post by simon darkshade on Nov 17, 2020 17:46:28 GMT
A New Jerusalem Part 5
Whitehall October 20th 1964
Stanley Barton paused in his private office. The first full Cabinet meeting of his new government would be an interesting one; whilst he had been in the shadow cabinet for a decade and knew and trusted his fellows, this would be a historic moment for the Labour Party in general. After over six and a half decades, this would be the first time that they had formed a government in their own right, albeit a minority one. He knew that for many, this would be the hour when they had long planned to bring about their plans and ambitions for a socialist future. Things had changed somewhat during his seven years as Leader of the Opposition, although he felt that he was still true to the soul of the party, which had never been something set in the stone of the late Victorian age, no matter how much the Marxians had tried to portray it as so.
However, this day would be significant for another reason as well: this would be the moment he unveiled the full details of his Grand Design to his colleagues. The basis of it had been percolating around in his head for almost four years, growing from the aftermath of the 1960 Crisis and the sea change in British strategic policy. The Tories had appraised the situation once the dust had settled and come to the same overall conclusion as him, but their subsequent reaction was substantially different to his own. Rather than progressively cut their cloth smaller to suit the limitations of the national purse, he wanted to increase the income to said purse and change the way it was spent. When faced with a mighty challenge, the only course of action was to rise to it with mighty endeavour and face the tides of fortune with hard mind and hard will, not embrace a gradual and comfortable decline to the ranks of the second-rate powers and also-rans.
He thought it a simple enough solution to a rather complex problem, but even the base issue could be broken down to a single concept: How was Britain going to solve the economic problem of the Cold War? The price of being a great power had never been small and the cost of the higher status of superpower was even more pronounced. The nuclear forces required to deter and, if need be, fight a hot war were extremely expensive; maintaining a conventional capacity for everything beyond that was also growing costlier by the year. In order to retain the former, that sine qua non of sitting at the top table, the Conservatives had begun to prune the latter, firstly in the 1961 Defence White Paper, then with subsequent measures, all the time insisting they would never countenance the very idea. In Barton’s view, it didn’t matter whether their actions were deliberate or simple misplaced economy, as the effect would be much the same: a diminution of British power that would flow onto the overall position of the country. For without real strength, there would be no British Empire, neither in its economic sense nor the political reality. Without that, they would be simply just another country in Europe, and not even the largest or richest at that. This strength wasn’t limited to the military sphere, but encompassed economic, industrial and political power; cut off one limb and the others would inevitably atrophy and wither. Give up the Middle East or Africa, let India fully drift away or fade away from South America and Asia and the rest would follow. For some, this would be an acceptable cost if they could build their own inward-looking socialist state here at home, but he viewed this too as shortsighted. A glorious utopia could be built for a little while, perhaps even decades, but then the cost of a cradle to grave welfare state would edge ever upward, just as the growth of the wealth of the nation slowed. The nation couldn’t pay itself more than it earned.
There had to be a way to provide for the people at home and maintain power around the world. He believed that he had found one. The path to both objectives came from the economic strength and wealth of Britain herself; the Commonwealth and Empire were increasingly vital contributors, but without the link of the metropole, the ties that bound them together were tenuous. If the British economy could launch itself forward into the future in a period of tremendous growth, in a new Industrial Revolution, then there would be an opportunity to remake its finances and secure the needs of peace and security at home and abroad. Specifically, this would entail using the growing windfall of oil and gas profits from the North Sea and the Middle East to create a national sovereign fund that would augment the pensions paid under National Insurance, but the greater part would come through targeted government investment and spending to drive up annual growth. This would have the effect of reducing and then eventually eliminating debt service payments and dramatically raising real spending on health and education, whilst allowing for a strong increase in the defence budget in this era of substantial capital expenditure. The great aim of Barton’s ‘Grand Design’ was to provide both guns and butter through growth; should it succeed, then the Britain of 1975 would have an economy of over £200,000 million, if not more, alongside a swelling national sovereign wealth fund to pay for the future and invest in the present.
With that type of growth, and some decent fortune from overseas assets and trade, they could afford to fund the necessary strategic nuclear deterrent and powerful conventional forces with almost twice the current level of spending. When the contributions and cooperation of the Commonwealth were factored in, then the new generation of weapons systems could be afforded in numbers large enough to make a difference, although not nearly sufficient to replace the wartime and 1950s arsenal that currently comprised the bulk of Imperial power. Sheer quantity, whilst it did retain a quality of its own, wasn't as significant as even five years ago and it did not matter if the French and Germans overtook the British Army in tanks or guns, provided that the latter continued to have the better vehicles; this was even truer when applied to their Soviet adversaries. They would have to make do with less in every category, but with the right type of development projects and acquisition programmes, they would not be left hanging and vulnerable for years at a time in the late 1970s as they may have under some postulated Conservative estimates; at least, that was how Barton and his men had characterised them. In any case, there was a looming problem of block obsolescence approaching, particularly for the Royal Navy, in the main part as a natural consequence of the large prewar and wartime fleet now reaching retirement - the Orion class battlecruisers, Battle class destroyers and Amphion class submarines would be gone in a handful of years, whilst the battleships and cruisers, as formidable as their array of missiles were at the moment, had at best a decade more of useful service. The solution to that, under the Grand Design, was to initiate and accelerate the various replacement programmes here and now, so that they could be gradually phased into service before they reached the brink; the key would be to balance the ships that the RN needed up against the resources that Britain and the Empire could bring to bear. Ideally, he wanted to provide a versatile core of highly capable equipment that could not only incorporate rapidly evolving technology but be used in a range of circumstances depending on what strategies his government or future governments may choose to implement, but reality meant that objective would likely be honoured in the breech rather than the observance. The RN wanted new nuclear attack submarines, battleships and carriers, along with steady construction of smaller ships, more offensive and defensive missiles and a new generation of aircraft; the RAF pushed for its supersonic bombers and ABMs, its tactical aircraft replacements and a panoply of impressive missiles; and the Army had its heart's desires fixed upon the MACVs, new artillery, SAGWs and helicopters and replacement of its truck park, not to mention its dreams of tanks and new infantry weapons. All of those could not be afford on £10,000 million nor even £20,000 million, but, like his old friend Professor Baldrick of Magdalen College, he had a cunning plan.
It was a simple one, but not without controversy. There were still many within the party who wished for an immediate increase in social spending and a direction of windfall profits towards health and welfare and among their ranks were some quite significant voices and factions. Barton’s response had been to attempt to defeat them in detail, playing off one group against another, mustering his support base in the unions and the Church and calling in the array of personal favours and agreements that he’d gathered over the last fifteen years. He was reasonably confident that he had the numbers to push through his Grand Design, despite the opposition from the left, but he needed to strike hard now, before they had an opportunity to prepare their action; stealing a march on those against him had been a winning tactic for many a year. The cachet he’d gained by the election victory and position as Labour’s first PM would count for little if he couldn’t rally his numbers sufficiently to get his main policy through. That meant today’s action. He knew that he had his firm backers in place in the Armed Forces' ministries, particularly Richard Pendragon at the War Office; although the bluff Barton and the dashing knight from the shires seemed as alike as chalk and cheese, they had forged a strong partnership, particularly on the defence of the realm. George Brown, the Minister of Defence, had been a close supporter since he had become leader, and Tony Crosland in the Foreign Office had been a vocal public advocate of the policy before and during the election, but he knew that the new Home Secretary Jim Callaghan leaned towards the arguments raised by those in the Outer Ministry and back benches. Beyond his more visible opponents, there was the Chancellor of the Exchequer, Denis Healey, who hadn't played his hand just yet, but beyond, his institutional support for economising and retrenchment, constituted a credible threat who could draw support from both the right and left of the party. If he overplayed his measures, on the one hand, he could lose two dozen of more of the residual Bevanites and with them government; on the other, he could lose some of the centrists to the Liberals and with them government. If he won, though, then sailing on the home front would be clear for at least his first term as Prime Minister.
It was time.
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Sir Richard Pendragon sat back in the Chesterfield armchair and took a long sip of his glass of scotch in satisfaction. It has been a good day for all of the men in the room - the Chief Whip, Joseph Wilberton; Adam Wainwright, the Minister of Works; Tom Stephens, the Minister of Social Security; the Deputy Prime Minister and Minister of Defence, George Brown; and the Prime Minister himself. The first Cabinet meeting of the newly elected Labour government had been smooth and successful, with none of the potential upsets that they had feared. The basic precepts of the Prime Minister’s ‘grand design’ had been outlined and approved after they had bounced the various factions before they had a chance to prepare their strategy. The drive for growth and forging a new and better society in the crucible of the white heat of technology and modernity was now agreed policy. Acceptable concessions and red meat tossed out to the left to satisfy them in the form of an increase in NHS funding and a wage rise agreement with the TUC.
“We have belled the cat, lads, there is no doubt. The goal now is to move forward and get some decent runs on the board. Joe, have your boys keep their ears wide open on how this goes down with the backbenchers.”
“Yes, PM. I’ll make sure that any of the waverers get shown up quick enough.”
“Good. We don’t have the numbers to lose. Anything come up since the other day?”
“Just the odd bit of scuttlebutt about a few Private Member’s Bills in the offing on the usual social stuff. There’s one on the abolition of hanging that is gathering a bit of support.”
“Kick it into the long grass. That’s no benefit for us, not just after an election when we don’t even have a bally majority. We’ve got to have some sense of difference and distance between Labour and Liberal. Find out what else they want and sit on them.”
“They’re the usual bleeding heart squad, but we’ll manage ‘me.”
“That’s what I like to hear. George, I’d like you to go to work on Jim. He’s a good chap and true, and someone I’d prefer in here with us, if you know what I mean. Nice and steady, though, mind you.”
“Consider it done.”
“Tom, I’d like you to reach out to Denis. Let him know that he has full rein and my support for whatever he needs at the Treasury. Everything we discussed before the election is on the cards and he can let loose. Use those words, mind you, “let loose”.”
“Righto, Prime Minister.”
“Very good, gentlemen. I’d just like to see Richard and Tom alone for half a tick, then I’ve got to get off to my next meeting.”
The other men left the room in short order, leaving Barton with Pendragon and Wainwright.
“Right, lads, I’ll make this quick. I’ve recently had a number of ideas that I want to put into action. I’d like you two to put your heads together, nominally for the purpose of finding old War Office facilities suitable for sale. What I’d actually like you to do is quite different.”
Stanley Barton explained the ideas to his colleagues; he couldn’t really call them his ideas, considering where and when they came from. When he was done, he could see both men understood his intent.
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Post by simon darkshade on Nov 19, 2020 8:54:50 GMT
There are a few bits and pieces of interest in that instalment. I will be interested to see if there are any correct guesses as to what the last part may be about.
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Post by stevep on Nov 19, 2020 15:41:46 GMT
There are a few bits and pieces of interest in that instalment. I will be interested to see if there are any correct guesses as to what the last part may be about.
Well the bits I noticed were highlighted above. a) This suggests that this Labour government is some way to the right of any Labour government in our time, and probably the 1960's Tory party as it views social investment as something of low importance. Not sure what the relative status of the NHS is in DE compared to OTL in the same period but get the feeling its smaller and private medicine has a much larger role. Also that the TUC and labour unions in general are seen as something to be mistrusted.
b) That sounds like there will be pressure of some form on any Labour MPs who have doubts about the government policies, possibly by some sort of blackmail or other pressures from the reference to "waverers get shown up quick enough".
c) I'm guessing that Jim is Jim Callaghan who is in charge of the Home Office but that Barton is uncertain whether he will fully support all the programme?
d) Similar that Dennis is Dennis Healey who is at the Treasury. Sounds like he's been given support for spending big but unclear as to what areas. Unless its for a purge of some kind of parts of the civil service??
That he's talking with the people in charge of the War Office and Public Works might be that some big projects are going to be pushed with a military element to them. That the ideas aren't actually his presumably means they came from the security briefing earlier or some other very secret source.
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Post by simon darkshade on Nov 19, 2020 17:25:13 GMT
Steve,
Some interesting observations, some of which are close to the mark.
A.) The Labour government under Barton is definitely to the right of Labour in @ in its social conservatism, with the leading “faction” associated with quite traditionalist trade unions and religious groups. They are still left on economics, though. The perception of social investment as lower importance is confined basically to Barton and his closest supporters and only in terms of ranking below Foreign Policy/Defence (1st) and Economic Growth (2nd). Even this is pretty contentious, but the reason he prioritises growth over immediate spending is that he wants to make it secure in the medium and long term.
The NHS is quite large and significant, but not quite with the same level of prestige/importance as in @ 1964, having equal top domestic billing with education. There is probably a larger private hospital sector than historical, but the overwhelming majority is public.
The TUC, whilst slightly less powerful given slightly smaller unionisation rates, is still a key player in Labour. After some fairly bloody infighting in the 1950s, the hard left unions/union leadership have mostly been pushed out of control of some of the major industries and there is a strong anti-Communist bent.
B.) What is being discussed is simply standard use of whipping powers on ~25-30 backbenchers who are known to be potentially wobbly. This will come through a combination of political bribery and coercion, blackmail as you say and the other tactics of intimidation from the whips. Barton is keenly aware that his is a minority government.
C.) Callaghan is generally onside and is moving gradually away from the relative leftist position of his early career (just as in @), but to have him firmly in support would bring valuable numbers.
D.) Healey has been told he can pursue some general spending across the board up to 875 million, based on calculations about surpluses and windfalls, but also to pursue the formulation of a VAT among other reforms. Part of the aim here is to bring him onside if it works, or, if it attracts public disagreement, it reduces Healey’s power base and appeal as a potential rival from the right.
E.) You are right on the money here. In the time since the secret briefing, Barton had a look at some of the data from Lapcat and decided on:
- 3 top secret alternatives to the CGWHQ at Corsham, much deeper in something of a British equivalent to Cheyenne Mountain - Some very large fallout shelter tunnels based along the lines of Switzerland - Some works down in the Falklands - A special vault in South Georgia or another location to preserve knowledge and seeds in the event of a catastrophe
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