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Post by stevep on Dec 24, 2019 13:19:52 GMT
Not prior to the war. They are organised into four brigades in Emden, Kiel, Wilhelmshaven and Tsingtao. Tsingtao, seems to me the battle there between the Germans and Japanese might be like the Siege of Port Arthur of OTL instead of the OTL siege.
I would suspect that the Japanese are a good bit stronger as well so the siege will probably last longer but I suspect the ending will still be pretty certain. - ninjied by sdarkshade on this point.
The existence of more and more advanced a/c would probably be pretty likely given that that there has been inter-planetary travel for a few decades and also the impact of the Martian invasion only a decade before.
I'm a bit surprised that there are commonwealth forces based in Britain before the war as it would seem to make more sense to me politically and logistically that they look after regional needs and call on Britain when needed.
Given Spain is strongly pro-EPs does that mean that the OTL sale of their remaining Pacific island colonies to Germany, after the 1898 defeat by the US, didn't take place? If so then a bit less hunting down of those colonies will be needed and that would also reduce Japan's gains in this conflict if their still in Spanish hands.
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Post by simon darkshade on Dec 24, 2019 13:33:20 GMT
There are ~36,000 total Entente troops at Tsingtao, backed up by Japanese and British heavy artillery, 6 IJN and 4 RN battleships/battlecruisers and three dragons.
Aircraft are a bit more advanced, being roughly equivalent to mid-late 1916 at the start of the war. Airships and skyships are definitely much more advanced, as those are areas where the impact of Martian technology + space travel have paid off a bit more. Even though powered flight is nominally developed in 1895, the first 15 years are very much experimental, as there aren't the same drivers for urgent aircraft development when airships and cavorite flying machines are present.
There aren't any significant Dominion forces based in Britain pre-war, save for staff and ships fitting out. You are quite right that they concentrate their not insubstantial forces in their own areas prewar. Once war is declared, there is a rather rapid reinforcement of the BEF when it moves to France.
Spain sells their minor islands to Germany in the immediate aftermath of 1898; their courting by the Entente happens after the Anglo-French Entente Cordiale takes place.
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Post by lordroel on Dec 24, 2019 13:58:18 GMT
Tsingtao involves the Japanese, British (both British and Indian) and Chinese forces. It doesn't take too long, with a larger contribution by the Royal Navy and a rather larger British Army contingent from Hong Kong, Shanghai, Weihaiwei and Peking, in addition to the small matter of 25,000 men of the IJA. So losses are a little bit higher but not to much.
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Post by simon darkshade on Dec 24, 2019 14:00:50 GMT
German losses are quite a bit higher, as the bombardment is extremely intense. Anglo-Japanese casualties were slightly higher.
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Post by lordroel on Dec 24, 2019 14:03:16 GMT
German losses are quite a bit higher, as the bombardment is extremely intense. Anglo-Japanese casualties were slightly higher. As expected in a universe where things to get bigger, larger and more than OTL.
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Post by simon darkshade on Dec 24, 2019 14:05:38 GMT
The outcome of this particular siege is more of a function of the concentration of firepower from the land, sea and air on a small area, rather than of the size of the world.
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Post by lordroel on Dec 24, 2019 14:28:24 GMT
The World of 1914Her advances in technology were driven by the able direction of Science Minister Jules Verne, with particular emphasis placed on aviation, submarines, the exploration of space and medicine. Please tell me he also wrote as a hobby, it would be a shame to loss his stories of which i have grown up with.
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Post by simon darkshade on Dec 24, 2019 14:45:39 GMT
Verne writes as a career, which leads to his position of Science Minister. The stories he writes are a bit different, naturally, given the presence of many of the characters.
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Post by lordroel on Dec 24, 2019 14:52:13 GMT
Verne writes as a career, which leads to his position of Science Minister. The stories he writes are a bit different, naturally, given the presence of many of the characters. Also i guess with much of the things he wrote in OTL having become real.
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Post by simon darkshade on Dec 24, 2019 15:10:45 GMT
Verne's From the Earth to the Moon played a role in the 19th Century space race, Around the World in Eighty Days is here a fictionalised version of a real event, Twenty Thousand Leagues Under the Sea is based on real characters, whilst Journey to the Centre of the Earth is an early science fiction.
All of these different circumstances combine to make Verne a writer with an extremely broad array of works, a masterful reputation across many genres and a prescience that brings about his political role.
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Post by lordroel on Dec 24, 2019 21:31:14 GMT
The Imperial and Royal Air Service operated 482 aeroplanes and 13 airships, including the potent Kress Drachenfliegers.
Well the Austro-Hungarian have at least a lot stronger air force at the begging of the Great War, does that also mean they have a good aircraft industrie ore are they mostly being supplied with German aircraft.
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Post by stevep on Dec 24, 2019 22:01:57 GMT
The Imperial and Royal Air Service operated 482 aeroplanes and 13 airships, including the potent Kress Drachenfliegers.
Well the Austro-Hungarian have at least a lot stronger air force at the begging of the Great War, does that also mean they have a good aircraft industrie ore are they mostly being supplied with German aircraft.
Well the Austrians had a decent heavy industrial base with Skoda as the most famous example so they could well be home produced. They just wouldn't have the same depth of industry as Germany, or probably Britain or France either. Plus they probably wouldn't have the research and industrial base to enlarge production or keep up with developments in the great powers once the war takes off.
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Post by simon darkshade on Dec 25, 2019 0:51:15 GMT
The Austrians do have quite a significant industrial base at this time and aren't that far off France. Their capacity is often underestimated in some circles due to their political problems. Here, the Austro-Hungarian aviation industry is substantial enough to supply them with their own aircraft designs. They won't be on the level of Britain, France or Germany, but are just in front of Italy in capacity.
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Post by lordroel on Dec 25, 2019 10:55:40 GMT
The World of 1914United States of AmericaThe highly trained and well equipped US Army consisted of 125,000 regulars, with 59,000 stationed overseas, and 156,000 reserves in the National Guard. And by the end of the Great War that number will most likely be in the millions of soldiers and officers.
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Post by simon darkshade on Dec 25, 2019 12:26:46 GMT
End of War Force Levels France: 184 divisions Britain: 125 divisions USA: 78 divisions Italy: 63 divisions Byzantine Greece: 15 divisions Belgium: 9 divisions Brazil: 5 divisions Portugal: 4 divisions
India: 32 divisions Canada: 12 divisions Australia: 8 divisions South Africa: 4 divisions New Zealand: 2 divisions West Indies: 2 divisions Rhodesia: 1 division New Avalon: 1 division Newfoundland: 1 division
Germany: 287 divisions Austria-Hungary: 108 divisions Ottoman Turkey: 73 divisions Bulgaria: 27 divisions
The American Expeditionary Force as of November 11th 1918 consisted of 6 field armies, 24 corps, 78 divisions and 3,624,758 men.
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