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Post by eurowatch on May 7, 2016 22:10:59 GMT
Those are premises, premises have a lot of leeway With what is considered acceptable. The lack of airplanes is worldbuilding, which needs to make sense in the larger Picture. What about a world where the world is population by a alien race called the hive, where the renaming people life on giant floating air cities protected by squadrons called the Angles of the Sky flying world war II planes, is that good world building? That is another premise. Basicly, premise: starting point, worldbuilding: extra information about the world defined by the premise. Using you example above, since the remaining People live on floating cities you can then have one character wondering how it would feel to walk on the ground without worrying about falling a kilometer. You can not have another character explain it because she has relatives living on an island on the ground. Fiction needs to have rules. |
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Post by lordroel on May 7, 2016 22:16:49 GMT
What about a world where the world is population by a alien race called the hive, where the renaming people life on giant floating air cities protected by squadrons called the Angles of the Sky flying world war II planes, is that good world building? That is another premise. Basicly, premise: starting point, worldbuilding: extra information about the world defined by the premise. Using you example above, since the remaining People live on floating cities you can then have one character wondering how it would feel to walk on the ground without worrying about falling a kilometer. You can not have another character explain it because she has relatives living on an island on the ground. Fiction needs to have rules. Maybe having one character explain to our young female hero that the council of the floating cities is keeping a dark secret that there is part of Earth not inhabited by the Hive as they fear that people living in the floating cities might want to move back to the ground, the only way for our young female hero to get close to the ground is to join the elite Angles of the Sky Force made up of girls flying old World War II planes who protect the floating cities from attack by the air elements of the hive. |
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Post by eurowatch on May 7, 2016 22:19:59 GMT
That is another premise. Basicly, premise: starting point, worldbuilding: extra information about the world defined by the premise. Using you example above, since the remaining People live on floating cities you can then have one character wondering how it would feel to walk on the ground without worrying about falling a kilometer. You can not have another character explain it because she has relatives living on an island on the ground. Fiction needs to have rules. Maybe having one character explain to our young female hero that the council of the floating cities is keeping a dark secret that there is part of Earth not inhabited by the Hive as they fear that people living in the floating cities might want to move back to the ground, the only way for our young female hero to get close to the ground is to join the elite Angles of the Sky Force made up of girls flying old World War II planes who protect the floating cities from attack by the air elements of the hive. That is a plot based on the premise. Any information besides that would constitute as worldbuilding. |
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Post by lordroel on May 7, 2016 22:29:07 GMT
Maybe having one character explain to our young female hero that the council of the floating cities is keeping a dark secret that there is part of Earth not inhabited by the Hive as they fear that people living in the floating cities might want to move back to the ground, the only way for our young female hero to get close to the ground is to join the elite Angles of the Sky Force made up of girls flying old World War II planes who protect the floating cities from attack by the air elements of the hive. That is a plot based on the premise. Any information besides that would constitute as worldbuilding. During the story our young female hero who at first has problems flying a plane, has a rivalry with the ace of here squadron (of course they will become best friends after a daring mission), get to pilot a jet fighter who nobody could handle (she getting the plane by mistake) discovers that the previous Earth Government was behind the start of the Hive War (the Hive came in peace but the Earth Government panicked and launch a attack that killed the Hive queen which resulted in the daughter of the Hive Queen and new queen to start a massive extermination of Humanity), befriends the grand daughter of the slain Hive queen who helps them to find the land of the free and also mange to defeat a leader of a floating city who takes over the council (government of all floating cities) by force who orders the Angles of the Sky Force to launch a suicide attack against the main hive so he can rule all of the floating cities with out anybody able to challenge his power. |
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Post by eurowatch on May 7, 2016 23:09:19 GMT
That is a plot based on the premise. Any information besides that would constitute as worldbuilding. During the story our young female hero who at first has problems flying a plane, has a rivalry with the ace of here squadron (of course they will become best friends after a daring mission), get to pilot a jet fighter who nobody could handle (she getting the plane by mistake) discovers that the previous Earth Government was behind the start of the Hive War (the Hive came in peace but the Earth Government panicked and launch a attack that killed the Hive queen which resulted in the daughter of the Hive Queen and new queen to start a massive extermination of Humanity), befriends the grand daughter of the slain Hive queen who helps them to find the land of the free and also mange to defeat a leader of a floating city who takes over the council (government of all floating cities) by force who orders the Angles of the Sky Force to launch a suicide attack against the main hive so he can rule all of the floating cities with out anybody able to challenge his power. ... Just one question: was it on purpose that you made the plots so full of cliches or not? And punctation exsists for a reason. |
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Post by lordroel on May 8, 2016 8:49:05 GMT
During the story our young female hero who at first has problems flying a plane, has a rivalry with the ace of here squadron (of course they will become best friends after a daring mission), get to pilot a jet fighter who nobody could handle (she getting the plane by mistake) discovers that the previous Earth Government was behind the start of the Hive War (the Hive came in peace but the Earth Government panicked and launch a attack that killed the Hive queen which resulted in the daughter of the Hive Queen and new queen to start a massive extermination of Humanity), befriends the grand daughter of the slain Hive queen who helps them to find the land of the free and also mange to defeat a leader of a floating city who takes over the council (government of all floating cities) by force who orders the Angles of the Sky Force to launch a suicide attack against the main hive so he can rule all of the floating cities with out anybody able to challenge his power. ... Just one question: was it on purpose that you made the plots so full of cliches or not? And punctation exsists for a reason. You tell me, is this not the same as what happens in a anime. |
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Post by eurowatch on May 9, 2016 5:40:52 GMT
Well I be damned, someone actually came up With a logical explanation on why the hamsters in Haifuri are able to cause mindcontrol.
"A rabies-like virus is most likely the culprit: such a virus would travel along neural pathways to the central nervous system to impact its function. The rabies virus causes inflammation of brain tissue, resulting in symptoms that manifest as abnormal behaviour, paranoia, or even hallucinations, amongst others. However, given that the affected individuals in Hai-Furi are shown recover without substantial external intervention, from a mechanistic perspective, the virus is probably an ineffectual form of a bioweapon that can be dealt with by the immune system before it has a chance to incubate. This could explain why the effects wear off after a while, and similarly, the presence of strains with different virulences might account for why the Musashi’s crew remain affected for several days, rather than the minutes or hours that Shima and Kaoru respectively experience. While a virus seems far-fetched, real-world viruses can have serious neurological impacts on its host. Moreover, as seen in Hai-Furi’s fourth episode, affected individuals have access to their memories, as Shima demonstrates when she rages about curry before her rampage. Because mind control techniques must impact how an individual thinks, they usually involve impairing hippocampus function. This region of the brain consolidates short and long term memories, so for mind control to be effective, it will act on the hippocampus. Logically, Shima would not likely remember anything related to curry prior to her rampage. However, the fact is that she does remember her actions. Together with the points presented, it should be clear that the cause of all this is a pathogen of some sort, and the hamster-like rodents (which are likely synthetic lifeforms, now that we've seen them with ECM and communication jamming capabilities) are the vectors."
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Post by lordroel on May 9, 2016 14:29:07 GMT
Well I be damned, someone actually came up With a logical explanation on why the hamsters in Haifuri are able to cause mindcontrol. "A rabies-like virus is most likely the culprit: such a virus would travel along neural pathways to the central nervous system to impact its function. The rabies virus causes inflammation of brain tissue, resulting in symptoms that manifest as abnormal behaviour, paranoia, or even hallucinations, amongst others. However, given that the affected individuals in Hai-Furi are shown recover without substantial external intervention, from a mechanistic perspective, the virus is probably an ineffectual form of a bioweapon that can be dealt with by the immune system before it has a chance to incubate. This could explain why the effects wear off after a while, and similarly, the presence of strains with different virulences might account for why the Musashi’s crew remain affected for several days, rather than the minutes or hours that Shima and Kaoru respectively experience. While a virus seems far-fetched, real-world viruses can have serious neurological impacts on its host. Moreover, as seen in Hai-Furi’s fourth episode, affected individuals have access to their memories, as Shima demonstrates when she rages about curry before her rampage. Because mind control techniques must impact how an individual thinks, they usually involve impairing hippocampus function. This region of the brain consolidates short and long term memories, so for mind control to be effective, it will act on the hippocampus. Logically, Shima would not likely remember anything related to curry prior to her rampage. However, the fact is that she does remember her actions. Together with the points presented, it should be clear that the cause of all this is a pathogen of some sort, and the hamster-like rodents (which are likely synthetic lifeforms, now that we've seen them with ECM and communication jamming capabilities) are the vectors."Wait and what about my alien mutated evil hamsters from space who are bent on world domination theory then, are we to believed that these hamster have only a rabies-like virus. |
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Post by eurowatch on May 9, 2016 15:03:42 GMT
Well I be damned, someone actually came up With a logical explanation on why the hamsters in Haifuri are able to cause mindcontrol. "A rabies-like virus is most likely the culprit: such a virus would travel along neural pathways to the central nervous system to impact its function. The rabies virus causes inflammation of brain tissue, resulting in symptoms that manifest as abnormal behaviour, paranoia, or even hallucinations, amongst others. However, given that the affected individuals in Hai-Furi are shown recover without substantial external intervention, from a mechanistic perspective, the virus is probably an ineffectual form of a bioweapon that can be dealt with by the immune system before it has a chance to incubate. This could explain why the effects wear off after a while, and similarly, the presence of strains with different virulences might account for why the Musashi’s crew remain affected for several days, rather than the minutes or hours that Shima and Kaoru respectively experience. While a virus seems far-fetched, real-world viruses can have serious neurological impacts on its host. Moreover, as seen in Hai-Furi’s fourth episode, affected individuals have access to their memories, as Shima demonstrates when she rages about curry before her rampage. Because mind control techniques must impact how an individual thinks, they usually involve impairing hippocampus function. This region of the brain consolidates short and long term memories, so for mind control to be effective, it will act on the hippocampus. Logically, Shima would not likely remember anything related to curry prior to her rampage. However, the fact is that she does remember her actions. Together with the points presented, it should be clear that the cause of all this is a pathogen of some sort, and the hamster-like rodents (which are likely synthetic lifeforms, now that we've seen them with ECM and communication jamming capabilities) are the vectors."Wait and what about my alien mutated evil hamsters from space who are bent on world domination theory then, are we to believed that these hamster have only a rabies-like virus? To be honest, I prefer the rabies-mutation theory to Your mutant hamster theory, it actually makes some degree of sense and was foreshadowed. Also my Guess to Moeka's fate: Mike is going to rescue her and get her back to the Harekaze, where the lack of availble beds is brought up. Mike then volunteers her own bed and much yuri subtext ensues. Moeka is also going to keep wearing her original uniform. |
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Post by lordroel on May 9, 2016 15:08:26 GMT
Wait and what about my alien mutated evil hamsters from space who are bent on world domination theory then, are we to believed that these hamster have only a rabies-like virus? To be honest, I prefer the rabies-mutation theory to Your mutant hamster theory, it actually makes some degree of sense and was foreshadowed. Also my Guess to Moeka's fate: Mike is going to rescue her and get her back to the Harekaze, where the lack of availble beds is brought up. Mike then volunteers her own bed and much yuri subtext ensues. Moeka is also going to keep wearing her original uniform. Wait is Moeka not higher in rank than Akeno due Moeka commanding a battleship and Akeno only a destroyer. |
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Post by eurowatch on May 9, 2016 15:20:49 GMT
To be honest, I prefer the rabies-mutation theory to Your mutant hamster theory, it actually makes some degree of sense and was foreshadowed. Also my Guess to Moeka's fate: Mike is going to rescue her and get her back to the Harekaze, where the lack of availble beds is brought up. Mike then volunteers her own bed and much yuri subtext ensues. Moeka is also going to keep wearing her original uniform. Wait is Moeka not higher in rank than Akeno due Moeka commanding a battleship and Akeno only a destroyer. No, I suppose both of them would be captains, it is just that the Harekaze is much more informal then the Mushahi due to being on the acadamy's waste bin. My reasons for why Mike would remain in charge (beside being the main character) are a) Moeka was kind of mutineed of her ship and thus only retains a rank on paper. b) running a destroyer requires a different approach than a Battleship, thus best keep the People in charge who actually know what they are doing. c) Moeka seems like the person who follows instead of leads and thus has no ambition of taking over the ship. Instead she is happy her (girl)freind is doing so well. |
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Post by lordroel on May 9, 2016 15:25:12 GMT
Wait is Moeka not higher in rank than Akeno due Moeka commanding a battleship and Akeno only a destroyer. No, I suppose both of them would be captains, it is just that the Harekaze is much more informal then the Mushahi due to being on the acadamy's waste bin. My reasons for why Mike would remain in charge (beside being the main character) are a) Moeka was kind of mutineed of her ship and thus only retains a rank on paper. b) running a destroyer requires a different approach than a Battleship, thus best keep the People in charge who actually know what they are doing. c) Moeka seems like the person who follows instead of leads and thus has no ambition of taking over the ship. Instead she is happy her (girl)freind is doing so well. I still have to figure out which class the ships belong to that attacked the Musashi. |
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Post by eurowatch on May 9, 2016 15:26:58 GMT
No, I suppose both of them would be captains, it is just that the Harekaze is much more informal then the Mushahi due to being on the acadamy's waste bin. My reasons for why Mike would remain in charge (beside being the main character) are a) Moeka was kind of mutineed of her ship and thus only retains a rank on paper. b) running a destroyer requires a different approach than a Battleship, thus best keep the People in charge who actually know what they are doing. c) Moeka seems like the person who follows instead of leads and thus has no ambition of taking over the ship. Instead she is happy her (girl)freind is doing so well. I still have to figure out which class the ships belong to that attacked the Musashi. They were Aktisuki-Class destroyers using ASROCs to try and disable the ship. |
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Post by lordroel on May 9, 2016 15:29:01 GMT
I still have to figure out which class the ships belong to that attacked the Musashi. They were Aktisuki-Class destroyers using ASROCs to try and disable the ship. Yes those are the once, they fired several training torpedoes at the Musashi which only dented here. |
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Post by eurowatch on May 9, 2016 18:27:01 GMT
They were Aktisuki-Class destroyers using ASROCs to try and disable the ship. Yes those are the once, they fired several training torpedoes at the Musashi which only dented here. Of course, ASROC-torpedoes have fifty kg of exsplosives in them and are desgined to take out submarines, they might as well have been throwing rocks. Interestening enough the Mushahi has the opposite problem: her main guns are to powerful, With the Shells passing right through the destroyers unarmoured hull without detonatiing. |
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