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Post by eurowatch on Oct 5, 2019 21:52:42 GMT
I still stand by my earlier point that Germany's best and only hope of winning the war is to use the Death Korp as part of the Spring offensive to kick France and Britain out of the war and then start negotiating for peace With the United States. What about negotiating for peace with the United Kingdom. If the Germans crush the Americans in France, the people back in the United States will not take it kindly that those in power in Washington drag them into a war that might have killed hundreds of thousands of young American soldiers. I am pretty certain that at this point, the British are not going to Accept any peace deal as long as the BEF is still mostly intact. They have suffered and bled to much to just give up now. As for a decisive American defeat in France, I think that if Washington then signs a white peace With the Germany (who they perchieved as the aggresor in the war) they Will get mobbed by People who think that those in power have sold them out and want to continue the war, even if nobody else wants to. You might thus get an armistice for twenty years, With the US as the aggresor.
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Post by stevep on Oct 5, 2019 22:56:50 GMT
Would adding the Netherlands, Denmark also be possible, with the Death Korps under its control, that will be a peace of cake and there is nothing the United kingdom ore the United States can do about it. It is possible but at this point I think the generals would balk at the thought of making more countries hate their guts. And didn't Kaiser Wilhelm II persuade his generals from invading the Netherlands in 1914?
To be blunt that hasn't stopped them so far and their now got unparalleled power. Possibly Wilhelm might have reservations but I can't see Luddendorf showing restraint.
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Post by eurowatch on Oct 5, 2019 23:57:13 GMT
It is possible but at this point I think the generals would balk at the thought of making more countries hate their guts. And didn't Kaiser Wilhelm II persuade his generals from invading the Netherlands in 1914?
To be blunt that hasn't stopped them so far and their now got unparalleled power. Possibly Wilhelm might have reservations but I can't see Luddendorf showing restraint.
And what strategic objective would invading two neutral countries serve?
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Post by Zyobot on Oct 6, 2019 2:35:39 GMT
Another matter that I haven't seen debated as much is that, although loyal to Imperial Germany for the duration of World War One, what'd the Death Korps make of a world in which no one has heard of their God-Emperor? Heck, their employer (and its Allied rivals) are predominantly "Christian" nations. And just about anything that deviates from the Imperial Truth would've been treated as heresy in the war-torn galaxy they came from.
Hopefully, cooler heads and pragmatism would prevail as the Death Korps leadership realizes that launching blood-soaked crusades would cause yet more destruction, and that realistic hope of the spreading the Imperial Truth comes with patience, politicking, and careful decision-making.
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Post by lordroel on Oct 6, 2019 7:10:02 GMT
Another matter that I haven't seen debated as much is that, although loyal to Imperial Germany for the duration of World War One, what'd the Death Korps make of a world in which no one has heard of their God-Emperor? Heck, their employer (and its Allied rivals) are predominantly "Christian" nations. And just about anything that deviates from the Imperial Truth would've been treated as heresy in the war-torn galaxy they came from. Hopefully, cooler heads and pragmatism would prevail as the Death Korps leadership realizes that launching blood-soaked crusades would cause yet more destruction, and that realistic hope of the spreading the Imperial Truth comes with patience, politicking, and careful decision-making. the Death Korps is loyal to the Kaiser and nobody else, thus for them its does not matter, as long as the Kaiser commands them, they will do anything for him.
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Post by eurowatch on Oct 19, 2019 13:08:24 GMT
Roel, Will the 88th Siege army have air assets like Valkyries and its variants attachted to it or Will they have to fight without them?
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Post by lordroel on Oct 19, 2019 13:26:42 GMT
Roel, Will the 88th Siege army have air assets like Valkyries and its variants attachted to it or Will they have to fight without them? Do not know if the 88th has any air assets, have to check.
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Post by eurowatch on Oct 19, 2019 13:34:19 GMT
Roel, Will the 88th Siege army have air assets like Valkyries and its variants attachted to it or Will they have to fight without them? Do not know if the 88th has any air assets, have to check. But as the one who came up With the idea, aren't you the one who determines what the 88th has aside from the canonical Leman Russ, Chimeras, Gorgons and artillery?
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Post by lordroel on Oct 19, 2019 13:55:26 GMT
Do not know if the 88th has any air assets, have to check. But as the one who came up With the idea, aren't you the one who determines what the 88th has aside from the canonical Leman Russ, Chimeras, Gorgons and artillery? True, but i doubt the 88th has much to fear from 1918 British and French aircraft.
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Post by eurowatch on Oct 19, 2019 14:15:32 GMT
But as the one who came up With the idea, aren't you the one who determines what the 88th has aside from the canonical Leman Russ, Chimeras, Gorgons and artillery? True, but i doubt the 88th has much to fear from 1918 British and French aircraft. They won't. But British warships blockading Germany Will have much to fear from Valkyries and Vultures armed With Hellstrike Missiles.
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Post by lordroel on Oct 19, 2019 14:39:24 GMT
True, but i doubt the 88th has much to fear from 1918 British and French aircraft. They won't. But British warships blockading Germany Will have much to fear from Valkyries and Vultures armed With Hellstrike Missiles. True, but as far as i have found out so far, Krieg is more a infantry, tank and artillery user than a air assets user. However a Imperial Navy Tactical Wing can be assigned to them which would consist of according to this site, Organization Of The Air Arm Of The Imperial NavyTactical Wing (total of 48 Aircraft)1451st Tactical Squadron – 12 Valkyries and 4 Vultures. I Tactical Squadron – 9 Valkyries and 3 Vultures. II Recon and Rescue Squadron – 4 Valkyries, 2 Vultures, 2 Recon Thunderbolts. CAS Fighter Squadron – 12 Thunderbolts.
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Post by eurowatch on Oct 19, 2019 17:02:19 GMT
They won't. But British warships blockading Germany Will have much to fear from Valkyries and Vultures armed With Hellstrike Missiles. True, but as far as i have found out so far, Krieg is more a infantry, tank and artillery user than a air assets user. However a Imperial Navy Tactical Wing can be assigned to them which would consist of according to this site, Organization Of The Air Arm Of The Imperial NavyTactical Wing (total of 48 Aircraft)1451st Tactical Squadron – 12 Valkyries and 4 Vultures. I Tactical Squadron – 9 Valkyries and 3 Vultures. II Recon and Rescue Squadron – 4 Valkyries, 2 Vultures, 2 Recon Thunderbolts. CAS Fighter Squadron – 12 Thunderbolts. Depending on how many missiles they have that would mean the end of the British blockade and maybe even the British Navy as a factor in the war.
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Post by lordroel on Oct 19, 2019 18:16:10 GMT
True, but as far as i have found out so far, Krieg is more a infantry, tank and artillery user than a air assets user. However a Imperial Navy Tactical Wing can be assigned to them which would consist of according to this site, Organization Of The Air Arm Of The Imperial NavyTactical Wing (total of 48 Aircraft)I Tactical Squadron – 12 Valkyries and 4 Vultures. II Tactical Squadron – 9 Valkyries and 3 Vultures. Recon and Rescue Squadron – 4 Valkyries, 2 Vultures, 2 Recon Thunderbolts. CAS Fighter Squadron – 12 Thunderbolts. Depending on how many missiles they have that would mean the end of the British blockade and maybe even the British Navy as a factor in the war. While Warhammer says that no Imperial Guard regiment may provide its own air cover, lucky this is not Warhammer 40,000. Thus we can give the 88th Siege Army the 3rd Krieg Tactical Luftflotte consisting of 4 Tactical Wings. That means that the 3rd Krieg Tactical Air Force has a total of 192 aircraft which by numbers would be: 100 Valkyries, has a range of 2,000km in atmosphere, a hull mounted Multi-laser, 2x door-mounted Heavy bolters and 2x Hellstrike Missiles, Rocket Pods. The Valkyries can also carry a Krieg Infantry Squad consisting of 10 soldiers. 13 Vulture Gunship, has a range of 2,000 km in atmosphere, a nose mounted Heavy bolter and 4x under wing hardpoints for various weapon systems 8 Recon Thunderbolts, has a range of 12,000 km in atmosphere, main armament of 2x nose-mounted Lascannons and 4x nose-mounted Autocannons and can carry 4x Hellstrike Missiles or 4x bombs 48 Thunderbolts, has a range of 12,000 km in atmosphere, main armament of 2x nose-mounted Lascannons and 4x nose-mounted Autocannons and can carry 4x Hellstrike Missiles or 4x bombs
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Post by eurowatch on Oct 19, 2019 18:53:21 GMT
Depending on how many missiles they have that would mean the end of the British blockade and maybe even the British Navy as a factor in the war. While Warhammer says that no Imperial Guard regiment may provide its own air cover, lucky this is not Warhammer 40,000. Thus we can give the 88th Siege Army the 3rd Krieg Tactical Luftflotte consisting of 4 Tactical Wings. That means that the 3rd Krieg Tactical Air Force has a total of 192 aircraft which by numbers would be: 100 Valkyries, has a range of 2,000km in atmosphere, a hull mounted Multi-laser, 2x door-mounted Heavy bolters and 2x Hellstrike Missiles, Rocket Pods. The Valkyries can also carry a Krieg Infantry Squad consisting of 10 soldiers. 13 Vulture Gunship, has a range of 2,000 km in atmosphere, a nose mounted Heavy bolter and 4x under wing hardpoints for various weapon systems 8 Recon Thunderbolts, has a range of 12,000 km in atmosphere, main armament of 2x nose-mounted Lascannons and 4x nose-mounted Autocannons and can carry 4x Hellstrike Missiles or 4x bombs 48 Thunderbolts, has a range of 12,000 km in atmosphere, main armament of 2x nose-mounted Lascannons and 4x nose-mounted Autocannons and can carry 4x Hellstrike Missiles or 4x bombs With a range like that the Germans could bomb Washington D.C. and Tokyo, that is certain to spread some panic.
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Post by lordroel on Oct 19, 2019 19:00:49 GMT
While Warhammer says that no Imperial Guard regiment may provide its own air cover, lucky this is not Warhammer 40,000. Thus we can give the 88th Siege Army the 3rd Krieg Tactical Luftflotte consisting of 4 Tactical Wings. That means that the 3rd Krieg Tactical Air Force has a total of 192 aircraft which by numbers would be: 100 Valkyries, has a range of 2,000km in atmosphere, a hull mounted Multi-laser, 2x door-mounted Heavy bolters and 2x Hellstrike Missiles, Rocket Pods. The Valkyries can also carry a Krieg Infantry Squad consisting of 10 soldiers. 13 Vulture Gunship, has a range of 2,000 km in atmosphere, a nose mounted Heavy bolter and 4x under wing hardpoints for various weapon systems 8 Recon Thunderbolts, has a range of 12,000 km in atmosphere, main armament of 2x nose-mounted Lascannons and 4x nose-mounted Autocannons and can carry 4x Hellstrike Missiles or 4x bombs 48 Thunderbolts, has a range of 12,000 km in atmosphere, main armament of 2x nose-mounted Lascannons and 4x nose-mounted Autocannons and can carry 4x Hellstrike Missiles or 4x bombs With a range like that the Germans could bomb Washington D.C. and Tokyo, that is certain to spread some panic. True, they can land troops using the Valkyries in the United Kingdom, the US is a little bit to far. Could they send some Valkyries to aid Paul von Lettow-Vorbeck in German East Africa ore is the distance to great for a single flight.
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