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Post by lordroel on Jan 4, 2023 15:54:50 GMT
There's a small typo in today's WWI thread on the sinking of shipping. Assuming that's a typo for seven?
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Thanks will edit it. Seems a lot of speling mistakes by the trolls today, will have to speak with the department heads it seems.
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Post by lordroel on Jan 4, 2023 16:00:12 GMT
Events leading up to the United States Civil War, January 4th 1861 District of Columbia Outgoing President James Buchanan, in light of the impending war between North and South, calls for a Day of Special Humiliation, Fasting and Prayer. I think there might have been typo here and humiliation should have been humility. Sorry raunchel , the trolls where right: Day of Fasting, Recommended by the President of the United StatesDay of Fasting, Recommended by the Presid ent of the United States. JAMES BUCHANAN. OLIVER WARNER. The following is the proclamation of the President of the United states recommenaing the setting apart of a da/^ or Fasting, Humiliation and Prayer:— Numerous appeals - sav _ s been made to me by pious and patriotic associations and citizens, in view of the preset distracted and dangerous condition of our country, to recommend tnat a flay be set apart for Humiliation, Fasting, and Prayer throughout the Union. Xn compliance with their rrquest, and my own sense of duty, T designate Friday, the 4th day of January, 1861, for dn.3 purpose, and recommend that the people assemble on that day, according to their several forms of worship, to keep it a solemn Past. The Union of the States is.at the present moment threatened with alarming and immediate danger—panic and distress of a fearful character prevail throughout the land —our laboring population are without employment, and consequently deprived of the means of earning their bread—indeed hope seems to have deserted the minds of men. All classes are in a state cf confusion and dismay ; and the wisest counsels of our best and purest men are wholly disregarded. In this, the hour of our calamity and peril, to whom shall we resort for relief but to the God of our Fathers ? His Omnipotent Arm only can save us from the awful effects of our own crimes and follies —our own ingratitude and the guilt towards our Heavenly Father. Let us, then, with deep contrition and penitent sorrow, unite in humbling ourselves before the Most High, in confessing our individual and national sins, and in acknowledging the justice of our punishment. Let us implore Him to remove from our hearts that false pride of opinion which would impel us to persevere in wrong for the sake of consistency, rather than yield a just submission to the unforeseen exigencies by which we are now surrounded. Let us with deep reverence beseech Him to restore the friendship and good will which prevailed in former days, among the people of the several States; and above all to save us from the horrors of civil war and blood guiltiness. Let our fervent prayers ascend to His Throne, that He would not desert us in this hour of extreme peril, but remember us as He did our fathers in the darkest days of the Revolution, and preserve cur Constitution and our Union, the work of'their hands, for’ages yet to come. An omnipotent Providence may overrule the existing evils for permanent good. He can malis the wrath of man to praise Him, and the remainder of wrath He can restrain. Let me invoke every individual in whatever sphere of life he may be placed, to feel a personal responsibility to God and his country for keeping this day holy, and lor contributing all in his power to remove our actual and impending calamities Washington. Dec. lUh, 1860. Proclamation by Gov. Banks. The President cf the United States by his Proclamation,- dated at Washington, the fourteenth day of December, instant, in view of “ the present distracted and dangerous condition of our country,” arid in compliance with the request of “ pious and patriotic associations and citizens,” has designated Friday, the fourth day of January next, as a day of Humiliation, Fasting and Prayer , and has recommended that the people assemble on that day, and, “ according to the several forms of worship to keep it as a solemn fast.” In pursuance of this recommendation and upon advice of the Council, I have thought it my duty to transmit this proclamation through the accustomed channels, to the religious and spiritual advisers and teachers of the people, and to commend to the citizens of Massachusetts a solemn and Christian recognition and observance of the day thus designated. The founders of this Commonwealth never failed in the hour of tribulation and trial, to recognise the hand of Almighty God in the disposition of great events; to seek from Him consolation and courage in affliction, and wisdom and strength to avert public dangers. Under the shadow of impending national calamity let us follow the Christian custom of our fathers and implore the blessing of Heaven upon our beloved country : That the priceless privileges that have been transmitted to us, may be preserved forever: That our Rulers may be invested with -wisdom and courage rightly to discharge their duties : That the People may learn from Him, that the recognition of the rights of others is indispensable to the protection of their own : That idleness may not par • alyze the hand of willing labor, nor want cloud its visions of plenty, and that fraternal contests may never rend our land, or “ the trumpet sound its general doom.” Given at the Council Chamber, this twenty - first day of December, in the year one thousand eight hundred and sixty, and the eighty-fifth cf the indeoendehce of the United States of America. NATHANIEL P. BANKS. By Ms Excellency the Governor with advice and consent c-f the Council, Secretary. God save the Commonwealth of Massachusetts.
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Post by Max Sinister on Jan 14, 2023 13:55:26 GMT
In the WW2 thread, February 22nd 1943: Error with Thanks have edited it and now is fixed.
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Post by Max Sinister on Jan 18, 2023 10:20:34 GMT
Again the WW2 thread, April 17th 1943: This guy's name is misspelt in an unfortunate way, as "Scheiss".
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Post by lordroel on Jan 18, 2023 14:52:47 GMT
Again the WW2 thread, April 17th 1943: This guy's name is misspelt in an unfortunate way, as "Scheiss". Seems the trolls wanted to post something to see if members read the daily updates, will edit it.
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Post by stevep on Jan 20, 2023 12:16:27 GMT
On today's WWI thread, in terms of the naval clashes in the Agean it seems a bit confusing. You have
Then further down in the ship losses list you have
which I guess is the other monitor lost in this encounter. I'm also guessing the 300 sailors killed were from the MIDILLI as the comment refers to 139 killed on the two monitors? Although that latter figure seems a bit high given that for M28 its total crew was only 69 of which it lost 11 which would mean 128 were lost on the Raglan That appears to be the case as checking on it on wiki here it says the total crew was 198 so it was obviously bigger than the M28 and that 127 were lost.
Also on today's WWII post, you have a small typo on the attack on Berlin, i.e.
That 69 should be 769. Losses continue to be heavy and rather a shambles.
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Post by lordroel on Jan 20, 2023 12:21:20 GMT
On today's WWI thread, in terms of the naval clashes in the Agean it seems a bit confusing. You have
Then further down in the ship losses list you have
which I guess is the other monitor lost in this encounter. I'm also guessing the 300 sailors killed were from the MIDILLI as the comment refers to 139 killed on the two monitors? Although that latter figure seems a bit high given that for M28 its total crew was only 69 of which it lost 11 which would mean 128 were lost on the Raglan That appears to be the case as checking on it on wiki here it says the total crew was 198 so it was obviously bigger than the M28 and that 127 were lost. Also on today's WWII post, you have a small typo on the attack on Berlin, i.e. That 69 should be 769. Losses continue to be heavy and rather a shambles.
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Thanks stevep, will edit both the WW I and WW II mishaps.
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Post by stevep on Jan 23, 2023 17:27:43 GMT
On today's WWI thread I think there's a small typo. I suspect that this should be due rather that cute?
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Post by lordroel on Jan 23, 2023 17:28:38 GMT
On today's WWI thread I think there's a small typo. I suspect that this should be due rather that cute?
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Again the trolls mange to put a word in to see if members/guest read the daily updates. will edit it.
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Post by Max Sinister on Jan 25, 2023 20:04:05 GMT
On page 105, July 19th: Seems to me that there's a bit of duplication of the Hitler-Mussolini talks.
While I'm reading this... is it just coincidence that the Wehrmacht lost about the same time at two theaters? First in El Alamein and Stalingrad; then in Sicily and Kursk...
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Post by lordroel on Jan 25, 2023 20:18:40 GMT
On page 105, July 19th: Seems to me that there's a bit of duplication of the Hitler-Mussolini talks. . Have edited it, thanks for the spotting.
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Post by stevep on Jan 26, 2023 16:16:04 GMT
On page 105, July 19th: Seems to me that there's a bit of duplication of the Hitler-Mussolini talks. While I'm reading this... is it just coincidence that the Wehrmacht lost about the same time at two theaters? First in El Alamein and Stalingrad; then in Sicily and Kursk...
If OK replying to such a point here I think it was Axis hubris and also overstretch as the Soviets recovered from the initial onslaught and the US starting throwing its industrial and then military might around. The comparison with Stalingrad was probably less 2nd El Alamein on its own than the entire offensive starting with that and ending with the Axis surrender at Cape Bon, during which while dwarfed by the Axis losses on the eastern front were considerable in terms of both manpower and also air units.
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Post by Max Sinister on Jan 28, 2023 0:42:07 GMT
While I'm at it: In a book by Judith Kerr ("The other way round" / "Bombs on Aunt Dainty"), I read that during the Blitz, the Luftwaffe would use "christmas trees" during their bombing runs - at one point, the first-person narrator and her father look out a window - I don't know the technical term, but it looks as if lighted/burning christmas trees were descending on London. So the bomber pilots can see better, I guess. Anyone knows what I'm talking about...?
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Post by stevep on Jan 28, 2023 10:24:41 GMT
While I'm at it: In a book by Judith Kerr ("The other way round" / "Bombs on Aunt Dainty"), I read that during the Blitz, the Luftwaffe would use "christmas trees" during their bombing runs - at one point, the first-person narrator and her father look out a window - I don't know the technical term, but it looks as if lighted/burning christmas trees were descending on London. So the bomber pilots can see better, I guess. Anyone knows what I'm talking about...?
Does ring a bell with me but presumably some sort of flares as you say to help the bombers determine what's below them.
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Post by Max Sinister on Jan 28, 2023 21:10:18 GMT
While I'm at it: In a book by Judith Kerr ("The other way round" / "Bombs on Aunt Dainty"), I read that during the Blitz, the Luftwaffe would use "christmas trees" during their bombing runs - at one point, the first-person narrator and her father look out a window - I don't know the technical term, but it looks as if lighted/burning christmas trees were descending on London. So the bomber pilots can see better, I guess. Anyone knows what I'm talking about...?
Does ring a bell with me but presumably some sort of flares as you say to help the bombers determine what's below them.
Yeah, I'm no expert about that.
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