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Post by lordroel on Aug 14, 2020 12:07:14 GMT
On the WWII post I think there's a typo in the paragraph:
Suspect the 1st sentence should be saying that Attlee makes sure the terms of the document is broadcast? On the WWI thread I would disagree with the idea that Gallipoli was a bad idea. It was badly performed in several cases including the landings mentioned yesterday but it gave a good chance of knocking Turkey out of the war which would have had massive impacts. Especially prior to Bulgaria joining the CP and Serbia being overrun. Likely to end the war at least a year earlier and quite possibly mean the Bolshevik coup and Russian civil war is avoided. Both of which would have huge impact on the post-war world. Steve
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Post by stevep on Aug 15, 2020 14:43:39 GMT
A couple of small issues with todays WWII post. a) For the continuation war you have:
Presumably talking about Lake Ladoga but don't name it as such. For people who aren't the history buffs we are it might be useful to put the name in please?
b) In the Med you have:
Again the ship isn't named? A quick look at the Wiki for the Crete campaign mentions that both Warspite and Valiant were damaged during it but checking Warspite seems to have been more seriously damaged as she was sent to the US and was still under repairs when Japan attacked the western powers so it couldn't be her. Valiant has far less details just mentioning she was damaged at Crete and then how she was markedly more seriously damaged by Italian human torpedo men in the Dec 41 attack so suspect it was probably her.
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Post by lordroel on Aug 15, 2020 14:47:49 GMT
A couple of small issues with todays WWII post. a) For the continuation war you have:
Presumably talking about Lake Ladoga but don't name it as such. For people who aren't the history buffs we are it might be useful to put the name in please? b) In the Med you have:
Again the ship isn't named? A quick look at the Wiki for the Crete campaign mentions that both Warspite and Valiant were damaged during it but checking Warspite seems to have been more seriously damaged as she was sent to the US and was still under repairs when Japan attacked the western powers so it couldn't be her. Valiant has far less details just mentioning she was damaged at Crete and then how she was markedly more seriously damaged by Italian human torpedo men in the Dec 41 attack so suspect it was probably her. Steve
Can edit the Lake thing, my troll think it is also HMS Valiant if we go by this page: HMS VALIANT - Queen Elizabeth-class 15in gun Battleship |
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Post by stevep on Aug 15, 2020 15:08:02 GMT
A couple of small issues with todays WWII post. a) For the continuation war you have:
Presumably talking about Lake Ladoga but don't name it as such. For people who aren't the history buffs we are it might be useful to put the name in please? b) In the Med you have:
Again the ship isn't named? A quick look at the Wiki for the Crete campaign mentions that both Warspite and Valiant were damaged during it but checking Warspite seems to have been more seriously damaged as she was sent to the US and was still under repairs when Japan attacked the western powers so it couldn't be her. Valiant has far less details just mentioning she was damaged at Crete and then how she was markedly more seriously damaged by Italian human torpedo men in the Dec 41 attack so suspect it was probably her. Steve
Can edit the Lake thing, my troll think it is also HMS Valiant if we go by this page: HMS VALIANT - Queen Elizabeth-class 15in gun Battleship
Actually that seems to suggest she was still in the Med seeing action with the fleet in July 41 and the only mention in August was that she was at Alexandria? Which would seem to rule out her going to Durban for repairs and then returning on the 15th August? Definitely not Warspite as looking at her entry on the same site she's definitely in the US. Similarly Queen Elizabeth, the only other BB in the Med Fleet at this point is in action rather than under repair so puzzling.
Could that ship coming back from Durban from repair note be an error in some way, i.e. a different date or class or something?
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Post by lordroel on Aug 15, 2020 15:18:04 GMT
Actually that seems to suggest she was still in the Med seeing action with the fleet in July 41 and the only mention in August was that she was at Alexandria? Which would seem to rule out her going to Durban for repairs and then returning on the 15th August? Definitely not Warspite as looking at her entry on the same site she's definitely in the US. Similarly Queen Elizabeth, the only other BB in the Med Fleet at this point is in action rather than under repair so puzzling.
Could that ship coming back from Durban from repair note be an error in some way, i.e. a different date or class or something? Steve
I will have a troll go to the UK to find more information, but beware he might only get a answer after 2 weeks due the quarantine that is happening. |
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Post by stevep on Aug 16, 2020 15:11:42 GMT
Me again. On the WWII post today you have:
Assuming there's some mix up between Hampdens, Whitleys and possibly Wellingtons?
Also as a comment
Rather surprised that a German night fighting is operating off the east coast of NE England! That is quite a way from home and with one engine he was lucky to get back.
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Post by lordroel on Aug 16, 2020 15:18:13 GMT
Rather surprised that a German night fighting is operating off the east coast of NE England! That is quite a way from home and with one engine he was lucky to get back. Steve
Seems it was not is only time he got lucky to get back home: Hans HahnHans Hahn was born on 9 February 1919 at Rheydt in Rheinland. Hahn trained as a bomber pilot and was assigned to a Kampfgeschwader in January 1940. In May, he sank a 4,000 BRT freighter off Dunkirk. Shortly thereafter, Hahn transferred to the Nachtjagd. Hahn was posted to NJG 2 on its formation in September 1940. Feldwebel Hahn was assigned to 3./NJG 2. He gained his first victory on the night of 24 October 1940 on an intruder mission over England shooting down a RAF Whitley twin-engined bomber as it took-off from Linton-on-Ouse. He gained considerable success operating over England in the intruder role being awarded the Ritterkreuz on 9 July 1941 for 11 victories, the first night-fighter pilot to receive this decoration. His success did not come without cost. On four occasions he returned to his base at Gilze-Rijen with his Ju 88 operating on one engine only. On one occasion he returned with a British balloon cable wrapped around one wing. Leutnant Hahn was slightly injured on 31 July 1941 when his aircraft crashed on take-off from Gilze-Rijen. He shot down a RAF Wellington twin-engined bomber over Scunthorpe on the night of 16 August 1941 but debris from the bomber hit his aircraft putting one engine out action. Once again he had to bring his aircraft back to base on one engine. On the night of 11 October 1941 he attacked a RAF Oxford twin-engined trainer over Grantham. During the attack his aircraft collided with the target and he perished with his crew in Ju 88. |
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Post by stevep on Aug 18, 2020 15:59:07 GMT
On the WWII post today there's a bit of an oddity.
Does this mean no deaths and only one person injured?
Also assume
there's a h missing here.
Bloody hell that's a lot of men to fit inside a WWII sub. The RN performed a miracle there.
That's interesting. I have wondered if Finland would have made a separate peace if it could have got its lost lands back and a guarantee of protection against Soviet attacks later on and this seems to suggest it might have done. Although with so many German forces in the country and most expecting them to defeat the Soviets it may not have been the wisest idea. However no way for the US at this time to make such a guarantee.
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Post by lordroel on Aug 18, 2020 16:22:34 GMT
On the WWII post today there's a bit of an oddity.
Does this mean no deaths and only one person injured?
Also assume
there's a h missing here.
Bloody hell that's a lot of men to fit inside a WWII sub. The RN performed a miracle there. Going to fix these things you mention. Just wait until the american are going to put their Marine Raiders into submarines: Raid on Makin Island |
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Post by stevep on Aug 18, 2020 16:51:11 GMT
On the WWII post today there's a bit of an oddity.
Does this mean no deaths and only one person injured?
Also assume
there's a h missing here.
Bloody hell that's a lot of men to fit inside a WWII sub. The RN performed a miracle there. Going to fix these things you mention. Just wait until the american are going to put their Marine Raiders into submarines: Raid on Makin Island
Goods that sounds congested, probably a little more room than on the British sub as the American ones tended to be larger but there there's a lot of munitions and other equipment so even with less men its not going to be spacious.
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Post by stevep on Aug 19, 2020 9:37:26 GMT
On today's WWI post
Might be better to change the encountered to provided as it sounds like the Russians are encountering resistance here which I assume isn't the case as their covering a withdrawal.
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Post by lordroel on Aug 19, 2020 13:59:43 GMT
On today's WWI post
Might be better to change the encountered to provided as it sounds like the Russians are encountering resistance here which I assume isn't the case as their covering a withdrawal. Steve
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Post by stevep on Aug 21, 2020 14:12:41 GMT
Well in the WWII post today Stalin makes clear that if the choice is between having Leningrad and related areas under German control or under the control of Russians not directly under his control he prefers the former. Shows the problems when you have a paranoid dictator who thinks just because he can't be trusted at all that he can trust no one. Sounds like that planned counter attack out of the isolated pocket could have caused some significant problems for the Germans, at least for a while.
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Post by lordroel on Aug 21, 2020 14:34:41 GMT
Well in the WWII post today Stalin makes clear that if the choice is between having Leningrad and related areas under German control or under the control of Russians not directly under his control he prefers the former. Shows the problems when you have a paranoid dictator who thinks just because he can't be trusted at all that he can trust no one. Sounds like that planned counter attack out of the isolated pocket could have caused some significant problems for the Germans, at least for a while. whel better the enemy to have it then your own troops who might start having toughs of their own. |
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Post by stevep on Aug 25, 2020 14:42:00 GMT
A couple of small typos in:
Assume this is just a missing j. Good to see some success against the U boats.
Also
Should this be runner?
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