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Post by stevep on Aug 25, 2019 13:19:55 GMT
Lordroel No problem. Your putting in a lot of work and providing a valuable record that could be very useful for writers of future TLs as there's a lot of information neatly coordinated by date there. With the scale of the projects and the fact your updating them daily some things are bound to slip through. I did add a PS to my previous post that I suspect another paragraph is a propaganda story or possibly some serious misunderstanding by tired and confused troops. - Where some Germans disguised as French forces attacked some of Haig's 1st Corp men. Steve
I try to work a month ahead of the Great War, this allow me to update and add stuff to them op onto the day i need to publish them, the same goes for the Second World War timeline, also i have completed the Cuban missile Crisis project and which i find very good, i am now thinking depending if i get enough information to work on and begin the Gulf War - Operation Desert Storm in real time projecht. I also have the Spanish-America War under consideration, that is if i get daily events for it.
Bloody hell, that's a workload. Mind you it could get worse. A day by day for the French Revolutionary and Napoleonic Wars 1793-1815 - a 23 year project - would be a step [or 20 ] too far.
Even with preparing them a month beforehand your still got to present everything in pretty much real time, i.e. an entry each day. Please don't overdo it.
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Post by lordroel on Aug 25, 2019 13:43:53 GMT
I try to work a month ahead of the Great War, this allow me to update and add stuff to them op onto the day i need to publish them, the same goes for the Second World War timeline, also i have completed the Cuban missile Crisis project and which i find very good, i am now thinking depending if i get enough information to work on and begin the Gulf War - Operation Desert Storm in real time projecht. I also have the Spanish-America War under consideration, that is if i get daily events for it. Bloody hell, that's a workload. Mind you it could get worse. A day by day for the French Revolutionary and Napoleonic Wars 1793-1815 - a 23 year project - would be a step [or 20 ] too far. Even with preparing them a month beforehand your still got to present everything in pretty much real time, i.e. an entry each day. Please don't overdo it. Steve
Well you might be true, it is a worload, but i have fun making it. At lease stevep, you have not ask me to make the 100 Years War in realtime, but i think smaller project lasting not longer than a year might be good to do if as i have said, there is a daily update for it, one war i might think of doing also is the Football War of 1969, if i can get enough information for the 4 days of fighting that is. I will promise not to over do it.
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Post by stevep on Aug 27, 2019 11:12:33 GMT
Lordroel
Something of a duplication in the WWII thread today. Under the Battle of the Atlantic you have:
Then separately at the end under an Iceland heading you have:
Also a misspelling of coastal in the 1st case.
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Post by stevep on Aug 27, 2019 11:21:48 GMT
Lordroel
On the this day thread a small point but for the entry.
It might be useful that this was the name for what is now called Mauritius and according to its Wiki entry was also its preceding name before the French occupied it in 1715. Otherwise since the term Île de France is generally used to refer to the central region of N France around Paris it might be a bit confusing.
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Post by lordroel on Aug 27, 2019 13:24:27 GMT
Lordroel Something of a duplication in the WWII thread today. Under the Battle of the Atlantic you have:
Then separately at the end under an Iceland heading you have:
Also a misspelling of coastal in the 1st case. Steve
Seems I need another proof reader troll, will fix it.
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Post by lordroel on Sept 1, 2019 7:38:07 GMT
Zo we are now 1 year in the World War II in the real time project, any comments so far.
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Post by stevep on Sept 1, 2019 10:19:01 GMT
Zo we are now 1 year in the World War II in the real time project, any comments so far.
A hell of a lot of detail and reading the recent days activity in the BoB it shows just how the RAF was being pressed. I think we're got used to the idea that a German invasion was never on, if only because they lacked the capacity and the RN would, albeit probably at some loss, have slaughtered any forces caught at sea. However your articles shows how great the strain was on the men and women involved in the front line battles FC was involved in.
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Post by lordroel on Sept 1, 2019 11:10:27 GMT
Zo we are now 1 year in the World War II in the real time project, any comments so far. A hell of a lot of detail and reading the recent days activity in the BoB it shows just how the RAF was being pressed. I think we're got used to the idea that a German invasion was never on, if only because they lacked the capacity and the RN would, albeit probably at some loss, have slaughtered any forces caught at sea. However your articles shows how great the strain was on the men and women involved in the front line battles FC was involved in.
And we know the Battle of Britain is not over, the worst has yet to come.
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Post by stevep on Sept 3, 2019 10:50:39 GMT
Lordroel
In todays WWII post I noticed a typo. You had
Presuming that should be France rather than England?
I would say this would be a dubious assumption. By most accounts the 50 DDs were not only of a fairly obsolete design but also in bad conditions so it too some time before they could be used in RN service. Also they were used overwhelmingly where they were most needed, i.e. in the Atlantic. The RN already had an overwhelming superiority in northern waters in terms of stopping and probably slaughtering any invasion/supply units they caught. I think the boat had already sailed in terms of any chance of a successful Sealion, if such a thing ever existed.
You repeat this entire section. It might be best to delete the 1st version as then Hitler's statement calling for the burning of London is immediately followed by the paragraph criticising it, which I suspect is what you intended.
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Post by lordroel on Sept 3, 2019 10:53:30 GMT
Lordroel In todays WWII post I noticed a typo. You had
Presuming that should be France rather than England?
I would say this would be a dubious assumption. By most accounts the 50 DDs were not only of a fairly obsolete design but also in bad conditions so it too some time before they could be used in RN service. Also they were used overwhelmingly where they were most needed, i.e. in the Atlantic. The RN already had an overwhelming superiority in northern waters in terms of stopping and probably slaughtering any invasion/supply units they caught. I think the boat had already sailed in terms of any chance of a successful Sealion, if such a thing ever existed.
You repeat this entire section. It might be best to delete the 1st version as then Hitler's statement calling for the burning of London is immediately followed by the paragraph criticising it, which I suspect is what you intended.
Thans, edit it.
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Post by stevep on Sept 3, 2019 11:30:11 GMT
Lordroel In todays WWII post I noticed a typo. You had
Presuming that should be France rather than England?
I would say this would be a dubious assumption. By most accounts the 50 DDs were not only of a fairly obsolete design but also in bad conditions so it too some time before they could be used in RN service. Also they were used overwhelmingly where they were most needed, i.e. in the Atlantic. The RN already had an overwhelming superiority in northern waters in terms of stopping and probably slaughtering any invasion/supply units they caught. I think the boat had already sailed in terms of any chance of a successful Sealion, if such a thing ever existed.
You repeat this entire section. It might be best to delete the 1st version as then Hitler's statement calling for the burning of London is immediately followed by the paragraph criticising it, which I suspect is what you intended.
Thans, edit it.
Lordroel
You removed the big duplication but also a short paragraph criticising Hitler's decision and his preference for burning things/enemies. Suspect that wasn't intended. Also still have the 1st typo about the German pilot being badly injured but making it back to England.
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Post by lordroel on Sept 3, 2019 11:52:57 GMT
Lordroel You removed the big duplication but also a short paragraph criticising Hitler's decision and his preference for burning things/enemies. Suspect that wasn't intended. Also still have the 1st typo about the German pilot being badly injured but making it back to England. Steve
Sorry, my trolls are doing their best during my vacation, will fix it when I have time.
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Post by stevep on Sept 6, 2019 10:30:09 GMT
Lordroel On the WWII thread a couple of points: a) There is a bit early on: Is this 28,000 feet height or some reference to bearing or location? b) The last paragraph, under China is: Assuming that should be much higher, in the discussion about the decision to switch to attacking London rather than FC airfields and facilities. This is the traditional view although I have seen it argued otherwise and as the thread has mentioned there have been earlier attacks on London and other cities, especially by night but sometimes by day.
If the LW had continued attacking the airfields they might have forced a temporary withdrawal from the south east and No. 11 group area but an attempt to invade is still likely to be a costly failure for the Germans. Plus changing the focus to London allows FC and the producing factories to recover. While a full scale invasion attempt, even on a short front gives the LW so many different roles, often under difficult conditions and would be unable to continue attacking either urban centres or fighter bases to any degree. Their fighters, especially the Me 109s which they were running low on would have been commited to far more escort operations with FC being able to decide when it could commit forces against them.
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Post by lordroel on Sept 6, 2019 10:37:39 GMT
b) The last paragraph, under China is: Assuming that should be much higher, in the discussion about the decision to switch to attacking London rather than FC airfields and facilities. This is the traditional view although I have seen it argued otherwise and as the thread has mentioned there have been earlier attacks on London and other cities, especially by night but sometimes by day. If the LW had continued attacking the airfields they might have forced a temporary withdrawal from the south east and No. 11 group area but an attempt to invade is still likely to be a costly failure for the Germans. Plus changing the focus to London allows FC and the producing factories to recover. While a full scale invasion attempt, even on a short front gives the LW so many different roles, often under difficult conditions and would be unable to continue attacking either urban centres or fighter bases to any degree. Their fighters, especially the Me 109s which they were running low on would have been commited to far more escort operations with FC being able to decide when it could commit forces against them. Steve
Even then I would assume the LW would loss the Battle of Britain, ore am I wrong.
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Post by stevep on Sept 6, 2019 11:06:06 GMT
b) The last paragraph, under China is: Assuming that should be much higher, in the discussion about the decision to switch to attacking London rather than FC airfields and facilities. This is the traditional view although I have seen it argued otherwise and as the thread has mentioned there have been earlier attacks on London and other cities, especially by night but sometimes by day. If the LW had continued attacking the airfields they might have forced a temporary withdrawal from the south east and No. 11 group area but an attempt to invade is still likely to be a costly failure for the Germans. Plus changing the focus to London allows FC and the producing factories to recover. While a full scale invasion attempt, even on a short front gives the LW so many different roles, often under difficult conditions and would be unable to continue attacking either urban centres or fighter bases to any degree. Their fighters, especially the Me 109s which they were running low on would have been commited to far more escort operations with FC being able to decide when it could commit forces against them. Steve
Even then I would assume the LW would loss the Battle of Britain, ore am I wrong.
Given what's being reported in the thread I could see FC being forced to withdraw from the 11th Group sector and its bases so likely Goring and the regime would claim a victory here. However as I say an invasion would fail, probably fairly disastrously for the Germans. If they didn't come then I could see a continued war of attrition that would eventually force the LW to withdraw. Simply by bombing London by day their giving FC more time to respond while the Me 109's have very little time to operate that far north. Plus damaged LW a/c have further to go to reach safety or even the channel so their manpower losses are likely to increase significantly. As such its costly for both sides but the greater production in the UK and training of pilots plus the home advantage is likely to make it worse for the Germans.
This is of course ignoring that at some point the LW will have to withdraw to rebuild itself as best it can before Barbarossa.
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