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Post by stevep on Jul 20, 2019 23:31:33 GMT
Very well, then. If we use EckhartsLadder's match-up as a benchmark, then having multiple Star Destroyers that can converge upon the Enterprise-D means a much easier and swifter victory. Then, they can capture, detain and interrogate the ship's crew and passengers for the needed information. Lets give Death Squadron some time ( a month ore 2) before we send in a Romulan Warbird to investigate strange broadcast coming out of the Nelvana System, the ship is captured by the Imperials with Darth Vader himself interrogating the captain of the Romulan Warbird, so what next.
Two questions: a) Does Vader and any other force users with the DS still have the capacity to use it?
b) Would they detect the Romulan ship if it was using its cloaking device? Would expect it it to initially to investigate then when it saw how many ships, how big they were and that they didn't look like any known race to leave and report back to higher command.
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Post by Zyobot on Jul 21, 2019 0:46:21 GMT
Lets give Death Squadron some time ( a month ore 2) before we send in a Romulan Warbird to investigate strange broadcast coming out of the Nelvana System, the ship is captured by the Imperials with Darth Vader himself interrogating the captain of the Romulan Warbird, so what next.
Two questions: a) Does Vader and any other force users with the DS still have the capacity to use it?
b) Would they detect the Romulan ship if it was using its cloaking device? Would expect it it to initially to investigate then when it saw how many ships, how big they were and that they didn't look like any known race to leave and report back to higher command.
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I'd assume that yes, Vader and his Dark Side henchmen in Death Squadron can still use the Force. But lordroel would know best since he's the one who started this thread. Regarding your second point, I remember there being an episode of The Clone Wars TV series in which a (then-exotic) cloaked ship was employed by Republic forces to get past the CIS blockade of Christophsis. Since a younger Vader played a vital role in that engagement, maybe he has insights in how to spot cloaked ships? There is, of course, still the question of whether said knowledge would apply to Star Trek technology or not. Nonetheless, I'd imagine that the Imperials would be cognizant of the possibility either way.
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Post by lordroel on Jul 21, 2019 7:02:26 GMT
I'd assume that yes, Vader and his Dark Side henchmen in Death Squadron can still use the Force. But lordroel would know best since he's the one who started this thread. The force can still be used by anybody.
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Post by stevep on Jul 21, 2019 13:41:05 GMT
I'd assume that yes, Vader and his Dark Side henchmen in Death Squadron can still use the Force. But lordroel would know best since he's the one who started this thread. The force can still be used by anybody.
Well that makes it nasty for anyone trying to oppose Vader and his men.
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Post by lordroel on Jul 21, 2019 13:46:24 GMT
The force can still be used by anybody. Well that makes it nasty for anyone trying to oppose Vader and his men. But Vader and the Death Squadron are stuck between the Federation and the Romulans, that is going to be very difficult for them to do something.
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Post by Zyobot on Jul 21, 2019 16:06:36 GMT
The force can still be used by anybody.
Well that makes it nasty for anyone trying to oppose Vader and his men. Yeah, that'd be especially true if Vader himself decides to fight on the front lines.
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Post by lordroel on Jul 21, 2019 16:08:58 GMT
Well that makes it nasty for anyone trying to oppose Vader and his men. Yeah, that'd be especially true if Vader himself decides to fight on the front lines. True,, but first they Death Squadron needs to survive and expand, but they have few options as they are stuck by two Cold War opponents who hate each other.
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Post by Zyobot on Jul 22, 2019 16:13:25 GMT
Yeah, that'd be especially true if Vader himself decides to fight on the front lines. True,, but first they Death Squadron needs to survive and expand, but they have few options as they are stuck by two Cold War opponents who hate each other. What sorts of numbers and firepowers could the Federation and Romulan bring to bear against the new arrivals, do you think? Obviously, the sum total of either of their navies vastly outnumbers Death Squadron, but surely they're spread throughout the known galaxy and occupied with fulfilling numerous tasks at once.
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Post by lordroel on Jul 22, 2019 16:24:02 GMT
True,, but first they Death Squadron needs to survive and expand, but they have few options as they are stuck by two Cold War opponents who hate each other. What sorts of numbers and firepowers could the Federation and Romulan bring to bear against the new arrivals, do you think? Obviously, the sum total of either of their navies vastly outnumbers Death Squadron, but surely they're spread throughout the known galaxy and occupied with fulfilling numerous tasks at once. They have first have to agree to send in ships to the Neutral Zone, this is their first direct contact sins the end of the Earth-Romulan War in 2160.
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Post by Zyobot on Jul 22, 2019 16:29:56 GMT
What sorts of numbers and firepowers could the Federation and Romulan bring to bear against the new arrivals, do you think? Obviously, the sum total of either of their navies vastly outnumbers Death Squadron, but surely they're spread throughout the known galaxy and occupied with fulfilling numerous tasks at once. They have first have to agree to send in ships to the Neutral Zone, this is their first direct contact sins the end of the Earth-Romulan War in 2160. Alright, then. I suppose that with diplomatic activities to be taken care of, Death Squadron will have been bought a little more time to prepare for hostilities. Maybe the Federation would be more receptive to a peaceful resolution, but I quite doubt that the Romulans would follow suit.
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Post by lordroel on Jul 22, 2019 16:36:48 GMT
They have first have to agree to send in ships to the Neutral Zone, this is their first direct contact sins the end of the Earth-Romulan War in 2160. Alright, then. I suppose that with diplomatic activities to be taken care of, Death Squadron will have been bought a little more time to prepare for hostilities. Maybe the Federation would be more receptive to a peaceful resolution, but I quite doubt that the Romulans would follow suit. I think you right, the Federation would try to negotiate while the Romulans see the Death Squadron as a thread to their empire which has to be dealt with.
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Post by Zyobot on Jul 29, 2019 13:42:01 GMT
Alright, then. I suppose that with diplomatic activities to be taken care of, Death Squadron will have been bought a little more time to prepare for hostilities. Maybe the Federation would be more receptive to a peaceful resolution, but I quite doubt that the Romulans would follow suit. I think you right, the Federation would try to negotiate while the Romulans see the Death Squadron as a thread to their empire which has to be dealt with. If tensions erupt between the joint Federation and Romulan forces while they're confronting Death Squadron, I wonder if Vader might work some of his Force magic and mind trick them into fighting one another so that both powers are distracted.
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Post by lordroel on Jul 29, 2019 15:06:05 GMT
I think you right, the Federation would try to negotiate while the Romulans see the Death Squadron as a thread to their empire which has to be dealt with. If tensions erupt between the joint Federation and Romulan forces while they're confronting Death Squadron, I wonder if Vader might work some of his Force magic and mind trick them into fighting one another so that both powers are distracted. He needs to be in direct contact to use the force, does he not.
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Post by Zyobot on Jul 29, 2019 15:07:20 GMT
If tensions erupt between the joint Federation and Romulan forces while they're confronting Death Squadron, I wonder if Vader might work some of his Force magic and mind trick them into fighting one another so that both powers are distracted. He needs to be in direct contact to use the force, does he not. No, I don’t think either he or his subordinates has to be.
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Post by lordroel on Jul 29, 2019 15:09:28 GMT
He needs to be in direct contact to use the force, does he not. No, I don’t think either he or his subordinates has to be. So you say that he might try to get the Federation and the Romulanans to go to war with each other while he keeps the current system he has as his Base of operations and just wait until the right moment he can strike when both waring sides are at thier weakest.
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