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Post by Zyobot on Apr 29, 2019 13:18:52 GMT
With its victory in the First Weltkrieg, it arose to become the most powerful nation on earth. Commanding an empire with influence in Europe, Asia and Africa, the Kaiserreich is surrounded on all sides by burgeoning threats. The Commune of France and Union of Britain, two closely allied Syndicalist powers that both fell to revolutions upon losing in 1919, lie on its western flank. In the east, the Russian Civil War rages on between the Reds and the Whites. And the United States, thanks to a Second Civil War of its own, is currently unable to flex its muscles on the world stage.
All of that changes when a new America--from a TL in which the Allies won the First World War and where it itself became a global superpower by 1986--arrives in the Kaiserreich setting, hatred for socialism and all. What happens next?
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Post by lordroel on Apr 29, 2019 13:22:17 GMT
With its victory in the First Weltkrieg, it arose to become the most powerful nation on earth. Commanding an empire with influence in Europe, Asia and Africa, the Kaiserreich is surrounded on all sides by burgeoning threats. The Commune of France and Union of Britain, two closely allied Syndicalist powers that both fell to revolutions upon losing in 1919, lie on its western flank. In the east, the Russian Civil War rages on between the Reds and the Whites. And the United States, thanks to a Second Civil War of its own, is currently unable to flex its muscles on the world stage. All of that changes when a new America--from a TL in which the Allies won the First World War and where it itself became a global superpower by 1986--arrives in the Kaiserreich setting, hatred for socialism and all. What happens next? Thank you in advance, Zyobot Is there a map of Kaiserreich: Legacy of the Weltkrieg so we can see what 1986 America is going to face. |
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Post by Zyobot on Apr 29, 2019 13:32:28 GMT
With its victory in the First Weltkrieg, it arose to become the most powerful nation on earth. Commanding an empire with influence in Europe, Asia and Africa, the Kaiserreich is surrounded on all sides by burgeoning threats. The Commune of France and Union of Britain, two closely allied Syndicalist powers that both fell to revolutions upon losing in 1919, lie on its western flank. In the east, the Russian Civil War rages on between the Reds and the Whites. And the United States, thanks to a Second Civil War of its own, is currently unable to flex its muscles on the world stage. All of that changes when a new America--from a TL in which the Allies won the First World War and where it itself became a global superpower by 1986--arrives in the Kaiserreich setting, hatred for socialism and all. What happens next? Thank you in advance, Zyobot Is there a map of Kaiserreich: Legacy of the Weltkrieg so we can see what 1986 America is going to face. Thank you for the question. Unfortunately, the best map I could find at the moment was this one from Ageorgio.com. Hopefully, it gives us something to work with for now. Also, for those unfamiliar with it, TV Tropes provides a good summation of what the Kaiserreich universe is about (though do keep in mind there may be spoilers). |
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Post by lordroel on Apr 29, 2019 13:43:38 GMT
Looking at google there are some maps, but the map you link to will do as bassis i guess.  |
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Post by Zyobot on May 2, 2019 0:09:16 GMT
With the map situation settled for now, I wonder how the Kaiserreich powers will receive this newly arrived, ardently anti-communist United States from a different 1986. The German Empire, after getting over the initial shock of the ISOT, would likely be intrigued and curious at what they're witnessing.
On the other hand, the socialist nations--namely the Commune of France and the Union of Britain--would start sweating bullets as soon as they realized what just happened.
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Post by lordroel on May 2, 2019 3:14:30 GMT
With the map situation settled for now, I wonder how the Kaiserreich powers will receive this newly arrived, ardently anti-communist United States from a different 1986. The German Empire, after getting over the initial shock of the ISOT, would likely be intrigued and curious at what they're witnessing. On the other hand, the socialist nations--namely the Commune of France and the Union of Britain--would start sweating bullets as soon as they realized what just happened. Is the Russian Republic friendly towards 1986 OTL America ore hostile. |
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Post by Zyobot on May 3, 2019 20:49:09 GMT
With the map situation settled for now, I wonder how the Kaiserreich powers will receive this newly arrived, ardently anti-communist United States from a different 1986. The German Empire, after getting over the initial shock of the ISOT, would likely be intrigued and curious at what they're witnessing. On the other hand, the socialist nations--namely the Commune of France and the Union of Britain--would start sweating bullets as soon as they realized what just happened. Is the Russian Republic friendly towards 1986 OTL America ore hostile. Again looking over the Kaiserreich wiki, the Republic’s legislature is split between socialistic, mixed-economy and monarchist conservative elements. Moreover, Russian authorities also thwarted the Kolchak Putsch—a failed coup instigated by capitalists, some officers, Cossacks, and remnants of the Czech Legion—twelve years before. Chances are they’d be wary, as well as divided over whether to be friendly or hostile towards this new, fully united America. The leftward legislators would prove truculent, while the more centrist and rightward ones might have mixed opinions. Maybe the US might offer the Russian Republic a deal, i.e. tech-sharing in exchange for their cooperation (and perhaps I explicitly, shifting to the right politically). |
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Post by lordroel on May 3, 2019 20:54:33 GMT
Is the Russian Republic friendly towards 1986 OTL America ore hostile. Again looking over the Kaiserreich wiki, the Republic’s legislature is split between socialistic, mixed-economy and monarchist conservative elements. Moreover, Russian authorities also thwarted the Kolchak Putsch—a failed coup instigated by capitalists, some officers, Cossacks, and remnants of the Czech Legion—twelve years before. Chances are they’d be wary, as well as divided over whether to be friendly or hostile towards this new, fully united America. The leftward legislators would prove truculent, while the more centrist and rightward ones might have mixed opinions. Maybe the US might offer the Russian Republic a deal, i.e. tech-sharing in exchange for their cooperation (and perhaps I explicitly, shifting to the right politically). Well better to have one friend/ally than have only enemies. |
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Post by Zyobot on May 3, 2019 21:07:08 GMT
Again looking over the Kaiserreich wiki, the Republic’s legislature is split between socialistic, mixed-economy and monarchist conservative elements. Moreover, Russian authorities also thwarted the Kolchak Putsch—a failed coup instigated by capitalists, some officers, Cossacks, and remnants of the Czech Legion—twelve years before. Chances are they’d be wary, as well as divided over whether to be friendly or hostile towards this new, fully united America. The leftward legislators would prove truculent, while the more centrist and rightward ones might have mixed opinions. Maybe the US might offer the Russian Republic a deal, i.e. tech-sharing in exchange for their cooperation (and perhaps I explicitly, shifting to the right politically). Well better to have one friend/ally than have only enemies. I suspect that initial relations between OTL America and TTL Russia would start off tenuous and brimming with anticipatory suspicion. But maybe an offer on the former’s part to share that oh-so-shiny tech might ease the latter’s fears. The German Empire would be intrigued and curious at the appearance of a 50-years-ahead, diehard anti-socialist, fully United States that’s a global superpower from where they’re from. Perhaps they’d vye for America’s help in curtailing the Syndicalist elements of the world. However, that’d in all likelihood have to wait since the US economy would go bonkers with the sudden, ISOT-inspired loss of its overseas markets and assets. |
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Post by lordroel on May 3, 2019 21:20:47 GMT
Well better to have one friend/ally than have only enemies. I suspect that initial relations between OTL America and TTL Russia would start off tenuous and brimming with anticipatory suspicion. But maybe an offer on the former’s part to share that oh-so-shiny tech might ease the latter’s fears. The German Empire would be intrigued and curious at the appearance of a 50-years-ahead, diehard anti-socialist, fully United States that’s a global superpower from where they’re from. Perhaps they’d vye for America’s help in curtailing the Syndicalist elements of the world. However, that’d in all likelihood have to wait since the US economy would go bonkers with the sudden, ISOT-inspired loss of its overseas markets and assets. So what other potential allies does 1986 America have. |
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Post by Zyobot on May 3, 2019 21:48:45 GMT
I suspect that initial relations between OTL America and TTL Russia would start off tenuous and brimming with anticipatory suspicion. But maybe an offer on the former’s part to share that oh-so-shiny tech might ease the latter’s fears. The German Empire would be intrigued and curious at the appearance of a 50-years-ahead, diehard anti-socialist, fully United States that’s a global superpower from where they’re from. Perhaps they’d vye for America’s help in curtailing the Syndicalist elements of the world. However, that’d in all likelihood have to wait since the US economy would go bonkers with the sudden, ISOT-inspired loss of its overseas markets and assets. So what other potential allies does 1986 America have. Maybe the German Empire?
Almost certainly not the British or French (since, you know, they're both socialist).
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Post by stevep on May 4, 2019 9:52:54 GMT
So what other potential allies does 1986 America have. Maybe the German Empire?
Almost certainly not the British or French (since, you know, they're both socialist).
That's a possibility but politics can make strange bedfellows. A US used to being top dog and coming into a German dominated world might be more than willing to look to at least safeguard weak rivals to Germany against attack, depending on how socialist they actually how. Although this is likely to be mitigated by the fact the US seems to have a significant chronological advantage coming from 50 years later if I read this correctly. Which means a US at the height of the cold war and with thousands of nuclear weapons, has nothing to fear militarily from Germany and once its overcome the shock of the transition industrially and scientifically either. Might have been more interesting if they both came from the same time period. Even a 1936 US although only lightly armed compared to Germany would have an economy to rival/eclipse Germany.
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Post by lordroel on May 4, 2019 10:31:02 GMT
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Post by Zyobot on May 4, 2019 11:52:50 GMT
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Post by lordroel on May 4, 2019 11:54:37 GMT
Did you find anything in particular that you like, lordroel? I like the timeline a lot. |
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