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Post by pyeknu on Apr 28, 2019 16:10:29 GMT
All division ORBATs and the ORBAT for I Corps now have the recognition patches posted with them
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Post by pyeknu on Apr 28, 2019 16:51:05 GMT
We've done the Old Red Patch. We've done the Devils of Dieppe. We've done the Sloggers of the Scheldt. And we've done the corps that commands them.
Now, the first of II Canadian Corps' fighting divisions have taken to the field!
The Water Rats themselves...3rd Canadian Mechanized Division.
Like the operational/administrative area of 4th Division, the area of 3rd Division - which spans from Thunder Bay in Ontario west to the Yukon border with Alaska, effectively including all the northern territories - has a plethora of Militia regiments to chose from to have the fighting elements brought up to speed. Even more so, there's a considerable RCAF presence out west, including all the major flying schools and various helicopter squadrons and flights that could get people adjusted to the CH-146 and CH-147 as quickly as possible. Even better, the peacetime division is divided into three area brigades, which allowed each sub-formation to spool up a fighting brigade with relative ease once the numbers started streaming out of training and were ready to take the field. Finally, there were three heaven-sent large training areas that could be used by the division to prepare for war in the Continent: The Canadian Manoeuvre Training Centre at Wainwright in east-central Alberta southwest of Lloydminster, Canadian Forces Base Suffield near Medicine Hat in southeast Alberta and Canadian Forces Base Shilo near Brandon in southwest Manitoba.
It's been done several times before. You all know the drill:
Division Troops
3rd Canadian Division Headquarters (3 CDN DIV HQ) - Edmonton
10th Artillery Regiment (General Support), RCA (10 GS REGT) - Regina
6 Engineer Support Regiment (6 ESR) - Winnipeg
3rd Canadian Division Signal Regiment (3 CDSR) - Edmonton
3rd Canadian Division Joint Operations Support Group (3 CDJOSG) - Edmonton
3rd Canadian Division Intelligence Company (3 CD INT COY) - Edmonton
All these forces pretty much exist in some form or another; individual units across the region would send troops in to fully consolidate the new units joining the division. 10 GS REGT was a standard field artillery regiment before the Shift. 6 ESR is the reconfigured and reborn 6th Field Regiment of the old RCE; it was formed in 1920 and served until 1965 and reduction to nil strength. 3 CD INT COY is the mobilized and renamed 6 Intelligence Company. 3 CDSR would come together thanks to the three signal regiments based in the region. And 3 CDJOSG would be formed from personnel of 3rd Canadian Division Support Group and the local brigade service battalions.
18 Wing
18 Wing Headquarters (18 WG HQ) - Edmonton
153 Tactical Transport Helicopter Squadron (153 TTHS) - Edmonton
18 Air Maintenance Squadron (18 AMS) - Edmonton
Not so long ago, CFB Edmonton north of the city proper was part of then-Air Command and served as a multi-purpose transport facility, the second main air support hub in the West outside Winnipeg. When the wing concept was reintroduced and the various AIRCOM bases would be operationally made wings of 1 Canadian Air Division, CFB Edmonton was designated 18 Wing. However, budget cuts and the relocation of 1 Canadian Mechanized Brigade Group up from Calgary in the 1990s saw 18 Wing transferred to Land Forces Command, becoming GSU Edmonton. Only one RCAF squadron remained there after other units were disbanded or shifted to new locations: 408 (Goose) Tactical Helicopter Squadron, 1 CMBG's resident tactical aviation unit. After helping form 101 THS to deploy with the brigade overseas, 408 THS would help establish the new 18 Wing and its primary flying units.
3 Canadian Division Health Services Regiment
3 Canadian Division Health Services Regiment Headquarters (3 CD HSVC REGT HQ) - Edmonton
7 Field Ambulance (7 FD AMB) - Winnipeg
8 Field Ambulance (8 FD AMB) - Vancouver
9 Field Ambulance (9 FD AMB) - Edmonton
3 Canadian Field Hospital (3 CFH) - Wainwright
This regiment brings together personnel from SIX separate Militia field ambulances spanning from Victoria to Thunder Bay, plus staff from 12 Canadian Forces Health Services Centre in Wainwright and 11 Canadian Forces Health Services Centre in Shilo to form 3 CFH.
3 Canadian Division Military Police Company
3 Canadian Division Military Police Company Headquarters (3 CD MP COY HQ) - Edmonton
7 Military Police Platoon (7 MP PL) - Winnipeg
8 Military Police Platoon (8 MP PL) - Vancouver
9 Military Police Platoon (9 MP PL) - Edmonton
This is the effective mobilization of the reserve elements of 1 Military Police Regiment, the Army's provost forces in the West. Directly involved in same would be 15 Military Police Company, which has detached platoons in Richmond and Victoria in British Columbia, Calgary in Alberta and Winnipeg in Manitoba.
7 Canadian Mechanized Brigade Group (7 CMBG)
7 Canadian Mechanized Brigade Group Headquarters and Signal Squadron (7 CMBG HQ & SIGS) - Winnipeg
The Fort Garry Horse (FGH) - Winnipeg
26th Field Artillery Regiment, RCA (26 FD REGT) - Brandon
1st Battalion, The Queen's Own Cameron Highlanders of Canada (1 CAMERONS OF C) - Winnipeg
1st Battalion, The Royal Winnipeg Rifles (1 R WIN RIF) - Winnipeg
1st Battalion, The Winnipeg Grenadiers (1 WIN GREN) - Winnipeg
7 Combat Engineer Regiment (7 CER) - Winnipeg
107 Tactical Helicopter Squadron (107 THS) - Winnipeg
7 Service Battalion (7 SVC BN) - Winnipeg
The brigade would be a wartime mobilization of 38 Canadian Brigade Group, which covers Saskatchewan, Manitoba and the northwestern part of Ontario. Deciding to make this particular brigade solely from Manitoba-based units required one regiment to return from the Supplementary Order of Battle: The Winnipeg Grenadiers, which served from 1908 until reduction to nil strength in 1965. 107 THS would stand up with help from 17 Wing in Winnipeg and 3 Canadian Forces Flying Training School at the old air base near Portage la Prairie. All other units would be mobilized from their 38 CBG counterparts.
8 Canadian Mechanized Brigade Group (8 CMBG)
8 Canadian Mechanized Brigade Group Headquarters and Signal Squadron (8 CMBG HQ & SIGS) - Vancouver
The British Columbia Regiment (Duke of Connaught's Own) (RCAC) (BCR) - Vancouver
15th Field Artillery Regiment, RCA (15 FD REGT) - Vancouver
1st Battalion, The Seaforth Highlanders of Canada (1 SEAFORTHS OF C) - Vancouver
1st Battalion, The Royal Westminister Regiment (1 R WESTMR) - New Westminister
1st Battalion, The Canadian Scottish Regiment (Princess Mary's) (1 CDN SCOTS) - Victoria
8 Combat Engineer Regiment (8 CER) - Vancouver
108 Tactical Helicopter Squadron (108 THS) - Comox
8 Service Battalion (8 SVC BN) - Victoria
Mobilized from 39 CBG - the Militia in British Columbia - all the main fighting units are active at the time of the Shift. 108 THS would form with the help of 19 Wing at Comox and 12 Wing's Pacific-based squadron, 443 (Hornet) Maritime Helicopter Squadron, flying from Victoria International Airport. All other units will rise from their 39 CBG counterparts.
9 Canadian Mechanized Brigade Group (9 CMBG)
9 Canadian Mechanized Brigade Group Headquarters and Signal Squadron (9 CMBG HQ & SIGS) - Edmonton
The South Alberta Light Horse (SALH) - Medicine Hat
20th Field Artillery Regiment, RCA (20 FD REGT) - Edmonton
1st Battalion, The North Saskatchewan Regiment (1 N SASK R) - Saskatoon
1st Battalion, The Royal Regina Rifles (1 R REG RIF) - Regina
1st Battalion, The Calgary Highlanders (1 CALG HIGHRS) - Calgary
9 Combat Engineer Regiment (9 CER) - Calgary
109 Tactical Helicopter Squadron (109 THS) - Moose Jaw
9 Service Battalion (9 SVC BN) - Edmonton
This brigade would actually bring together a lot of 38 CBG's Saskatchewan-based units with a good portion of what 41 Canadian Brigade Group in Alberta could deliver. None of the field regiments in the brigade would have to be called up from the Supplementary Order of Battle. 109 THS would be formed as a detached flight of 408 THS. And all support units would form from manning pools from both 38 CBG and 41 CBG.
Of course, all the units within 3rd Division's area of responsibility who weren't given a place in the overseas formation would get their chances soon enough.
But first, the Mighty Maroon Machine of 5th Canadian Division needs its story told...!
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Post by lordroel on Apr 28, 2019 18:13:12 GMT
We've done the Old Red Patch. We've done the Devils of Dieppe. We've done the Sloggers of the Scheldt. And we've done the corps that commands them.
Now, the first of II Canadian Corps' fighting divisions have taken to the field!
The Water Rats themselves...3rd Canadian Mechanized Division.
Like the operational/administrative area of 4th Division, the area of 3rd Division - which spans from Thunder Bay in Ontario west to the Yukon border with Alaska, effectively including all the northern territories - has a plethora of Militia regiments to chose from to have the fighting elements brought up to speed. Even more so, there's a considerable RCAF presence out west, including all the major flying schools and various helicopter squadrons and flights that could get people adjusted to the CH-146 and CH-147 as quickly as possible. Even better, the peacetime division is divided into three area brigades, which allowed each sub-formation to spool up a fighting brigade with relative ease once the numbers started streaming out of training and were ready to take the field. Finally, there were three heaven-sent large training areas that could be used by the division to prepare for war in the Continent: The Canadian Manoeuvre Training Centre at Wainwright in east-central Alberta southwest of Lloydminster, Canadian Forces Base Suffield near Medicine Hat in southeast Alberta and Canadian Forces Base Shilo near Brandon in southwest Manitoba.
It's been done several times before. You all know the drill:
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Division Troops
3rd Canadian Division Headquarters (3 CDN DIV HQ) - Edmonton
10th Artillery Regiment (General Support), RCA (10 GS REGT) - Regina
6 Engineer Support Regiment (6 ESR) - Winnipeg
3rd Canadian Division Signal Regiment (3 CDSR) - Edmonton
3rd Canadian Division Joint Operations Support Group (3 CDJOSG) - Edmonton
3rd Canadian Division Intelligence Company (3 CD INT COY) - Edmonton
All these forces pretty much exist in some form or another; individual units across the region would send troops in to fully consolidate the new units joining the division. 10 GS REGT was a standard field artillery regiment before the Shift. 6 ESR is the reconfigured and reborn 6th Field Regiment of the old RCE; it was formed in 1920 and served until 1965 and reduction to nil strength. 3 CD INT COY is the mobilized and renamed 6 Intelligence Company. 3 CDSR would come together thanks to the three signal regiments based in the region. And 3 CDJOSG would be formed from personnel of 3rd Canadian Division Support Group and the local brigade service battalions.
18 Wing
18 Wing Headquarters (18 WG HQ) - Edmonton
153 Tactical Transport Helicopter Squadron (153 TTHS) - Edmonton
18 Air Maintenance Squadron (18 AMS) - Edmonton
Not so long ago, CFB Edmonton north of the city proper was part of then-Air Command and served as a multi-purpose transport facility, the second main air support hub in the West outside Winnipeg. When the wing concept was reintroduced and the various AIRCOM bases would be operationally made wings of 1 Canadian Air Division, CFB Edmonton was designated 18 Wing. However, budget cuts and the relocation of 1 Canadian Mechanized Brigade Group up from Calgary in the 1990s saw 18 Wing transferred to Land Forces Command, becoming GSU Edmonton. Only one RCAF squadron remained there after other units were disbanded or shifted to new locations: 408 (Goose) Tactical Helicopter Squadron, 1 CMBG's resident tactical aviation unit. After helping form 101 THS to deploy with the brigade overseas, 408 THS would help establish the new 18 Wing and its primary flying units.
3 Canadian Division Health Services Regiment
3 Canadian Division Health Services Regiment Headquarters (3 CD HSVC REGT HQ) - Edmonton
7 Field Ambulance (7 FD AMB) - Winnipeg
8 Field Ambulance (8 FD AMB) - Vancouver
9 Field Ambulance (9 FD AMB) - Edmonton
3 Canadian Field Hospital (3 CFH) - Wainwright
This regiment brings together personnel from SIX separate Militia field ambulances spanning from Victoria to Thunder Bay, plus staff from 12 Canadian Forces Health Services Centre in Wainwright and 11 Canadian Forces Health Services Centre in Shilo to form 3 CFH.
3 Canadian Division Military Police Company
3 Canadian Division Military Police Company Headquarters (3 CD MP COY HQ) - Edmonton
7 Military Police Platoon (7 MP PL) - Winnipeg
8 Military Police Platoon (8 MP PL) - Vancouver
9 Military Police Platoon (9 MP PL) - Edmonton
This is the effective mobilization of the reserve elements of 1 Military Police Regiment, the Army's provost forces in the West. Directly involved in same would be 15 Military Police Company, which has detached platoons in Richmond and Victoria in British Columbia, Calgary in Alberta and Winnipeg in Manitoba.
7 Canadian Mechanized Brigade Group (7 CMBG)
7 Canadian Mechanized Brigade Group Headquarters and Signal Squadron (7 CMBG HQ & SIGS) - Winnipeg
The Fort Garry Horse (FGH) - Winnipeg
26th Field Artillery Regiment, RCA (26 FD REGT) - Brandon
1st Battalion, The Queen's Own Cameron Highlanders of Canada (1 CAMERONS OF C) - Winnipeg
1st Battalion, The Royal Winnipeg Rifles (1 R WIN RIF) - Winnipeg
1st Battalion, The Winnipeg Grenadiers (1 WIN GREN) - Winnipeg
7 Combat Engineer Regiment (7 CER) - Winnipeg
107 Tactical Helicopter Squadron (107 THS) - Winnipeg
7 Service Battalion (7 SVC BN) - Winnipeg
The brigade would be a wartime mobilization of 38 Canadian Brigade Group, which covers Saskatchewan, Manitoba and the northwestern part of Ontario. Deciding to make this particular brigade solely from Manitoba-based units required one regiment to return from the Supplementary Order of Battle: The Winnipeg Grenadiers, which served from 1908 until reduction to nil strength in 1965. 107 THS would stand up with help from 17 Wing in Winnipeg and 3 Canadian Forces Flying Training School at the old air base near Portage la Prairie. All other units would be mobilized from their 38 CBG counterparts.
8 Canadian Mechanized Brigade Group (8 CMBG)
8 Canadian Mechanized Brigade Group Headquarters and Signal Squadron (8 CMBG HQ & SIGS) - Vancouver
The British Columbia Regiment (Duke of Connaught's Own) (RCAC) (BCR) - Vancouver
15th Field Artillery Regiment, RCA (15 FD REGT) - Vancouver
1st Battalion, The Seaforth Highlanders of Canada (1 SEAFORTHS OF C) - Vancouver
1st Battalion, The Royal Westminister Regiment (1 R WESTMR) - New Westminister
1st Battalion, The Canadian Scottish Regiment (Princess Mary's) (1 CDN SCOTS) - Victoria
8 Combat Engineer Regiment (8 CER) - Vancouver
108 Tactical Helicopter Squadron (108 THS) - Comox
8 Service Battalion (8 SVC BN) - Victoria
Mobilized from 39 CBG - the Militia in British Columbia - all the main fighting units are active at the time of the Shift. 108 THS would form with the help of 19 Wing at Comox and 12 Wing's Pacific-based squadron, 443 (Hornet) Maritime Helicopter Squadron, flying from Victoria International Airport. All other units will rise from their 39 CBG counterparts.
9 Canadian Mechanized Brigade Group (9 CMBG)
9 Canadian Mechanized Brigade Group Headquarters and Signal Squadron (9 CMBG HQ & SIGS) - Edmonton
The South Alberta Light Horse (SALH) - Medicine Hat
20th Field Artillery Regiment, RCA (20 FD REGT) - Edmonton
1st Battalion, The North Saskatchewan Regiment (1 N SASK R) - Saskatoon
1st Battalion, The Royal Regina Rifles (1 R REG RIF) - Regina
1st Battalion, The Calgary Highlanders (1 CALG HIGHRS) - Calgary
9 Combat Engineer Regiment (9 CER) - Calgary
109 Tactical Helicopter Squadron (109 THS) - Moose Jaw
9 Service Battalion (9 SVC BN) - Edmonton
This brigade would actually bring together a lot of 38 CBG's Saskatchewan-based units with a good portion of what 41 Canadian Brigade Group in Alberta could deliver. None of the field regiments in the brigade would have to be called up from the Supplementary Order of Battle. 109 THS would be formed as a detached flight of 408 THS. And all support units would form from manning pools from both 38 CBG and 41 CBG.
Of course, all the units within 3rd Division's area of responsibility who weren't given a place in the overseas formation would get their chances soon enough.
But first, the Mighty Maroon Machine of 5th Canadian Division needs its story told...! Again, nice work pyeknu |
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Post by pyeknu on Apr 29, 2019 15:44:28 GMT
At last, the time has come...
Make way for the Mighty Maroon Machine, the 5th Canadian Mechanized Division!
Now, unlike the previous regional divisions we've covered so far, the 5th Division has the bare minimum of forces available to flesh out the combat brigades, to say anything of division troops. Some units will have to rise from the Supplementary Order of Battle and an infantry battalion from eastern Québec has to wear the maroon in lieu of the dark blue to make one brigade effectively complete. And given the unique geography of the region - with two provinces' forces on ISLANDS, one connected by a bridge and another by overnight ferry - it would be time-consuming to muster everyone together to train together before heading overseas. However, once mustered for formation training, the Mighty Maroon Machine has quite the training ground: Canadian Forces Base Gagetown in New Brunswick near Fredericton, which was the largest training facility area-wise in the Commonwealth of Nations when it was established in 1956, possessing 1,100 km2 of nice woodland which replicated the Continent's general terrain well.
Outside the paucity of units, there were only two regional brigades assigned to the division before the Shift, one covering New Brunswick and Newfoundland & Labrador while the other covered Nova Scotia and Prince Edward Island. Why it was done THIS way, I'll never understand; there's no direct land links between the Rock and other parts of Atlantic Canada, to say anything of Nova Scotia and PEI. So instead of forming a light division of two brigades, a third brigade group was formed from both 37 Canadian Brigade Group (NB & NL) and 36 Canadian Brigade Group (NS & PEI), with units shifted around as required to flesh it all out.
So with that, let's get on the machine and see what it's about...
Division Troops
5th Canadian Division Headquarters (5 CDN DIV HQ) - Halifax
14th Artillery Regiment (General Support) RCA (14 GS REGT) - Yarmouth
5 Engineer Support Regiment (5 ESR) - Halifax
5th Canadian Division Signal Regiment (5 CDSR) - Halifax
5th Canadian Division Joint Operational Support Group (5 CDJOSG) - Gagetown
5th Canadian Division Intelligence Company (5 CD INT COY) - Halifax
The division's general support regiment is an expanded version of 84 Field Battery RCA; the original regiment was an old-old school field artillery brigade formed in 1912 that served until reduced to nil strength save the battery in question in 1968. 5 ESR is another returnee from the Supplementary Order of Battle; it was formed in 1920 and remained on service until 1964. The signal regiment would rise mostly from 36 Signal Regiment in Halifax, Glace Bay on Cape Breton and Charlottetown. The operational support group would rise from 5th Canadian Division Support Group in Gagetown itself. And the intelligence unit will come from 3 Intelligence Company in Halifax.
10 Wing
10 Wing Headquarters (10 WG HQ) - Summerside
155 Tactical Transport Helicopter Squadron (155 TTHS) - Summerside
10 Air Maintenance Squadron (10 AMS) - Summerside
Since CFB Halifax Detachment Shearwater is the home of 12 Wing (the RCAF formation in charge of RCN support), it was decided to stand up 10 Wing at the former air force facility in Summerside northwest of Charlottetown. However, 12 Wing would help in the formation of the new tactical aviation wing, as would 14 Wing in Greenwood, 9 Wing in Gander and 403 "City of Calgary" (Red Wolf) Helicopter Operational Training Squadron at Gagetown.
5 Canadian Division Health Services Regiment
5 Canadian Division Health Services Regiment Headquarters (5 CD HSVC REGT HQ) - Halifax
13 Field Ambulance (13 FD AMB) - Halifax
14 Field Ambulance (14 FD AMB) - Saint John NB
15 Field Ambulance (15 FD AMB) - Saint John's NF
5 Canadian Field Hospital (5 CFH) - Gagetown
Like other elements of the division, the health services regiment would have to come together from a small pool of units: 33 Field Ambulance in Halifax; 35 Field Ambulance in Sydney, Saint John's NF and Saint John NB; and 42 Canadian Forces Health Services Centre in Gagetown.
5 Canadian Division Military Police Company
5 Canadian Division Military Police Company Headquarters (5 CD MP COY HQ) - Lower Sackville
13 Military Police Platoon (13 MP PL) - Lower Sackville
14 Military Police Platoon (14 MP PL) - Saint John NB
15 Military Police Platoon (15 MP PL) - Saint John's NF
This is a mobilization of 3 Military Police Regiment's Militia wing, 30 Military Police Company.
13 Canadian Mechanized Brigade Group (13 CMBG)
13 Canadian Mechanized Brigade Group Headquarters and Signal Squadron (13 CMBG HQ & SIGS) - Halifax
The Halifax Rifles (RCAC) (HAL RIF) - Halifax
1st (Halifax-Dartmouth) Field Artillery Regiment, RCA (1 FD REGT) - Halifax
1st Battalion, the Princess Louise's Fusiliers (1 PL FUS) - Halifax
1st Battalion, the West Nova Scotia Regiment (1 WNSR) - Aldershot
1st Battalion, the Nova Scotia Highlanders (1 NS HIGHRS) - Truro
13 Combat Engineer Regiment (13 CER) - Halifax
113 Tactical Helicoper Squadron (113 THS) - Shearwater
13 Service Battalion (13 SVC BN) - Halifax
Effectively fleshed out from the Nova Scotia elements of 36 CBG, the brigade group's fighting units were all active at the time of the Shift. 113 THS would be stood up at Shearwater with the assistance of the base's resident training unit, 406 "City of Saskatoon" (Lynx) Maritime Operational Training Squadron; even if the former unit would fly CH-146 Griffons and the latter would CH-148 Cyclones, the basics of helicopter flying are the same pretty much throughout.
14 Canadian Mechanized Brigade Group (14 CMBG)/14e Groupe-Brigade Méchanisé du Canada (14e GBMC)
14 Canadian Mechanized Brigade Group Headquarters and Signal Squadron (Quartier-Général et Escadron des Transmissions de la 14e Groupe-Brigade Méchanisé du Canada) (14 CMBG HQ & SIGS) - Moncton
8th Canadian Hussars (Princess Louise's) (8 CH) - Moncton
3rd Field Artillery Regiment (the Loyal Company), RCA (3 FD REGT) - Woodstock
1st Battalion, the Royal New Brunswick Regiment (1 RNBR) - Fredericton
1st Battalion, the North Shore (New Brunswick) Regiment (1 NSR) - Bathurst
1re Bataillon, les Fusiliers du Saint-Laurent (1 FUS SL) - Rimouski QC
14 Combat Engineer Regiment (14e Régiment de Genié de Combat) (14 CER) - Saint John NB
114 Tactical Helicoper Squadron (114e Escadron Tactique d'Hélicoptères) (114 THS) - Gagetown
14 Service Battalion (14e Bataillon des Services) (14 SVC BN) - Saint John NB
Effectively fleshed out from the New Brunswick wing of 37 CBG, this brigade had to make use of a battalion from 2e Division's 35e GBC to avoid the necessity of splitting apart the Royal New Brunswick Regiment (which had already been split in 2012 when the 2nd Battalion reverted to its pre-1954 name, the North Shore [New Brunswick] Regiment); however, plans are on the table to break apart the RNBR to its older components if desired. Bringing in les Fusiliers du Saint-Laurent was a no-brainer; Rimouski itself is just a two-hour road trip down Autoroutes 20 and 85 from the border of New Brunswick near Edmunston. Of course, because of that, the brigade had to go totally bilingual, which fits as New Brunswick is Canada's only officially bilingual province. 114 THS would have the benefit of being raised in Gagetown itself thanks to the wonderful help of 403 HOTS.
15 Canadian Mechanized Brigade Group (15 CMBG)
15 Canadian Mechanized Brigade Group Headquarters and Signal Squadron (15 CMBG HQ & SIGS) - Saint John's NF
The Prince Edward Island Regiment (RCAC) (PEIR) - Charlottetown
166th Field Artillery Regiment RCA (166 FD REGT) - Saint John's NF
1st Battalion, the Cape Breton Highlanders (1 CB HIGHRS) - Sydney
1st Battalion, the Royal Newfoundland Regiment (1 R NFLD R) - Saint John's NF
2nd Battalion, the Royal Newfoundland Regiment (2 R NFLD R) - Corner Brook
15 Combat Engineer Regiment (15 CER) - Sydney
115 Tactical Helicoper Squadron (115 THS) - Gander
15 Service Battalion (15 SVC BN) - Saint John's NF
This brigade would be fleshed out from the Prince Edward Island and Cape Breton side of 36 CBG and the Newfoundland & Labrador side of 37 CBG. This would ensure that there was no need to raise further battalions from an existing regiment. Since the Blue Puttees from the Rock were a two-battalion regiment before the Shift, the stay-home recruiting/training/reinforcement unit would be temporarily designated "3rd Battalion, the Royal Newfoundland Regiment" and split between the two active battalion's home stations on either side of the island. The artillery regiment is newly-formed and would be constituted with the help of 14 GS REGT, 1 FD REGT, 3 FD REGT and both the rear troops of 4th General Support Regiment RCA and the Royal Regiment of Canadian Artillery School in Gagetown; it was formed in 1949 when Newfoundland joined Confederation from veterans of the Royal Artillery's wartime regiments raised on the island, then amalgamated into the Blue Puttees in 1961. Of course, 115 THS would be raised with the help of 103 Search and Rescue Squadron at Gander.
Next: The "purple people eaters" rise up...in 6th Canadian Armoured Division!
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Post by lordroel on Apr 29, 2019 16:03:22 GMT
At last, the time has come...
Make way for the Mighty Maroon Machine, the 5th Canadian Mechanized Division!
Now, unlike the previous regional divisions we've covered so far, the 5th Division has the bare minimum of forces available to flesh out the combat brigades, to say anything of division troops. Some units will have to rise from the Supplementary Order of Battle and an infantry battalion from eastern Québec has to wear the maroon in lieu of the dark blue to make one brigade effectively complete. And given the unique geography of the region - with two provinces' forces on ISLANDS, one connected by a bridge and another by overnight ferry - it would be time-consuming to muster everyone together to train together before heading overseas. However, once mustered for formation training, the Mighty Maroon Machine has quite the training ground: Canadian Forces Base Gagetown in New Brunswick near Fredericton, which was the largest training facility area-wise in the Commonwealth of Nations when it was established in 1956, possessing 1,100 km2 of nice woodland which replicated the Continent's general terrain well.
Outside the paucity of units, there were only two regional brigades assigned to the division before the Shift, one covering New Brunswick and Newfoundland & Labrador while the other covered Nova Scotia and Prince Edward Island. Why it was done THIS way, I'll never understand; there's no direct land links between the Rock and other parts of Atlantic Canada, to say anything of Nova Scotia and PEI. So instead of forming a light division of two brigades, a third brigade group was formed from both 37 Canadian Brigade Group (NB & NL) and 36 Canadian Brigade Group (NS & PEI), with units shifted around as required to flesh it all out.
So with that, let's get on the machine and see what it's about...
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Division Troops
5th Canadian Division Headquarters (5 CDN DIV HQ) - Halifax
14th Artillery Regiment (General Support) RCA (14 GS REGT) - Yarmouth
5 Engineer Support Regiment (5 ESR) - Halifax
5th Canadian Division Signal Regiment (5 CDSR) - Halifax
5th Canadian Division Joint Operational Support Group (5 CDJOSG) - Gagetown
5th Canadian Division Intelligence Company (5 CD INT COY) - Halifax
The division's general support regiment is an expanded version of 84 Field Battery RCA; the original regiment was an old-old school field artillery brigade formed in 1912 that served until reduced to nil strength save the battery in question in 1968. 5 ESR is another returnee from the Supplementary Order of Battle; it was formed in 1920 and remained on service until 1964. The signal regiment would rise mostly from 36 Signal Regiment in Halifax, Glace Bay on Cape Breton and Charlottetown. The operational support group would rise from 5th Canadian Division Support Group in Gagetown itself. And the intelligence unit will come from 3 Intelligence Company in Halifax.
10 Wing
10 Wing Headquarters (10 WG HQ) - Summerside
155 Tactical Transport Helicopter Squadron (155 TTHS) - Summerside
10 Air Maintenance Squadron (10 AMS) - Summerside
Since CFB Halifax Detachment Shearwater is the home of 12 Wing (the RCAF formation in charge of RCN support), it was decided to stand up 10 Wing at the former air force facility in Summerside northwest of Charlottetown. However, 12 Wing would help in the formation of the new tactical aviation wing, as would 14 Wing in Greenwood, 9 Wing in Gander and 403 "City of Calgary" (Red Wolf) Helicopter Operational Training Squadron at Gagetown.
5 Canadian Division Health Services Regiment
5 Canadian Division Health Services Regiment Headquarters (5 CD HSVC REGT HQ) - Halifax
13 Field Ambulance (13 FD AMB) - Halifax
14 Field Ambulance (14 FD AMB) - Saint John NB
15 Field Ambulance (15 FD AMB) - Saint John's NF
5 Canadian Field Hospital (5 CFH) - Gagetown
Like other elements of the division, the health services regiment would have to come together from a small pool of units: 33 Field Ambulance in Halifax; 35 Field Ambulance in Sydney, Saint John's NF and Saint John NB; and 42 Canadian Forces Health Services Centre in Gagetown.
5 Canadian Division Military Police Company
5 Canadian Division Military Police Company Headquarters (5 CD MP COY HQ) - Lower Sackville
13 Military Police Platoon (13 MP PL) - Lower Sackville
14 Military Police Platoon (14 MP PL) - Saint John NB
15 Military Police Platoon (15 MP PL) - Saint John's NF
This is a mobilization of 3 Military Police Regiment's Militia wing, 30 Military Police Company.
13 Canadian Mechanized Brigade Group (13 CMBG)
13 Canadian Mechanized Brigade Group Headquarters and Signal Squadron (13 CMBG HQ & SIGS) - Halifax
The Halifax Rifles (RCAC) (HAL RIF) - Halifax
1st (Halifax-Dartmouth) Field Artillery Regiment, RCA (1 FD REGT) - Halifax
1st Battalion, the Princess Louise's Fusiliers (1 PL FUS) - Halifax
1st Battalion, the West Nova Scotia Regiment (1 WNSR) - Aldershot
1st Battalion, the Nova Scotia Highlanders (1 NS HIGHRS) - Truro
13 Combat Engineer Regiment (13 CER) - Halifax
113 Tactical Helicoper Squadron (113 THS) - Shearwater
13 Service Battalion (13 SVC BN) - Halifax
Effectively fleshed out from the Nova Scotia elements of 36 CBG, the brigade group's fighting units were all active at the time of the Shift. 113 THS would be stood up at Shearwater with the assistance of the base's resident training unit, 406 "City of Saskatoon" (Lynx) Maritime Operational Training Squadron; even if the former unit would fly CH-146 Griffons and the latter would CH-148 Cyclones, the basics of helicopter flying are the same pretty much throughout.
14 Canadian Mechanized Brigade Group (14 CMBG)/14e Groupe-Brigade Méchanisé du Canada (14e GBMC)
14 Canadian Mechanized Brigade Group Headquarters and Signal Squadron (Quartier-Général et Escadron des Transmissions de la 14e Groupe-Brigade Méchanisé du Canada) (14 CMBG HQ & SIGS) - Moncton
8th Canadian Hussars (Princess Louise's) (8 CH) - Moncton
3rd Field Artillery Regiment (the Loyal Company), RCA (3 FD REGT) - Woodstock
1st Battalion, the Royal New Brunswick Regiment (1 RNBR) - Fredericton
1st Battalion, the North Shore (New Brunswick) Regiment (1 NSR) - Bathurst
1re Bataillon, les Fusiliers du Saint-Laurent (1 FUS SL) - Rimouski QC
14 Combat Engineer Regiment (14e Régiment de Genié de Combat) (14 CER) - Saint John NB
114 Tactical Helicoper Squadron (114e Escadron Tactique d'Hélicoptères) (114 THS) - Gagetown
14 Service Battalion (14e Bataillon des Services) (14 SVC BN) - Saint John NB
Effectively fleshed out from the New Brunswick wing of 37 CBG, this brigade had to make use of a battalion from 2e Division's 35e GBC to avoid the necessity of splitting apart the Royal New Brunswick Regiment (which had already been split in 2012 when the 2nd Battalion reverted to its pre-1954 name, the North Shore [New Brunswick] Regiment); however, plans are on the table to break apart the RNBR to its older components if desired. Bringing in les Fusiliers du Saint-Laurent was a no-brainer; Rimouski itself is just a two-hour road trip down Autoroutes 20 and 85 to the border of New Brunswick near Edmunston. Of course, because of that, the brigade had to go totally bilingual, which fits as New Brunswick is Canada's only officially bilingual province. 114 THS would have the benefit of being raised in Gagetown itself thanks to the wonderful help of 403 HOTS.
15 Canadian Mechanized Brigade Group (15 CMBG)
15 Canadian Mechanized Brigade Group Headquarters and Signal Squadron (15 CMBG HQ & SIGS) - Saint John's NF
The Prince Edward Island Regiment (RCAC) (PEIR) - Charlottetown
166th Field Artillery Regiment RCA (166 FD REGT) - Saint John's NF
1st Battalion, the Cape Breton Highlanders (1 CB HIGHRS) - Sydney
1st Battalion, the Royal Newfoundland Regiment (1 R NFLD R) - Saint John's NF
2nd Battalion, the Royal Newfoundland Regiment (2 R NFLD R) - Corner Brook
15 Combat Engineer Regiment (15 CER) - Sydney
115 Tactical Helicoper Squadron (115 THS) - Gander
15 Service Battalion (15 SVC BN) - Saint John's NF
This brigade would be fleshed out from the Prince Edward Island and Cape Breton side of 36 CBG and the Newfoundland & Labrador side of 37 CBG. This would ensure that there was no need to raise further battalions from an existing regiment. Since the Blue Puttees from the Rock were a two-battalion regiment before the Shift, the stay-home recruiting/training/reinforcement unit would be temporarily designated "3rd Battalion, the Royal Newfoundland Regiment" and split between the two active battalion's home stations on either side of the island. The artillery regiment is newly-formed and would be constituted with the help of 14 GS REGT, 1 FD REGT, 3 FD REGT and both the rear troops of 4th General Support Regiment RCA and the Royal Regiment of Canadian Artillery School in Gagetown; it was formed in 1949 when Newfoundland joined Confederation from veterans of the Royal Artillery's wartime regiments raised on the island, then amalgamated into the Blue Puttees in 1961. Of course, 115 THS would be raised with the help of 103 Search and Rescue Squadron at Gander.
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Post by pyeknu on Apr 30, 2019 11:45:48 GMT
Now, the time has come...
The Purple People Eaters have arrived...6th Canadian Division (Armoured)!
Huh?
Down-timers: What the heck's a "purple people eater"?!
Well, you can just go here:
So how did that nickname get applied to the second armoured division of the Canadian Army?
Easy to explain. When the first incarnation of the 6th Division was formed for home defence in World War Two IOTL, the division didn't have a specific unit recognition flash colour assigned to it. Instead, said division adopted the red of 1st Division and dark blue of 2nd Division in a diagonally-divided fashion similar to this:
And while the design did have much to lend to it - and since it was diagonally divided, it could easily be applied to an armoured cavalry division given the standard military map symbol for same - it was decided at Headquarters Canadian Army that the concept of "simple is best" that was followed in IOTL would apply again. Thus, someone came up with the idea of blending the red and blue to get a purple shade. Once someone saw that, they recalled the old Sheb Wooley novelty song from 1958, then commented that II Canadian Corps' armoured fist would be a bunch of "purple people eaters" when they faced the Waffen SS.
The name stuck.
Anyhow, like its IOTL version, the new 6th Division had to be formed from units in various parts of the country; unlike the older divisions, there was no regional area from which the division could recruit its personnel. It eventually drew in personnel from units of 3rd Division's territory which hadn't been called up in the older formation, combining same with personnel from the territory of 31 CBG and 33 CBG in 4th Division covering cottage country and northern Ontario.
You know the drill. Let's begin...
Division Troops
6th Canadian Division Headquarters (6 CDN DIV HQ) - Winnipeg
18th Artillery Regiment (General Support), RCA (18 GS REGT) - Lethbridge
7 Engineer Support Regiment (7 ESR) - Vancouver
6th Canadian Division Signal Regiment (6 CDSR) - Winnipeg
6th Canadian Division Joint Operations Support Group (6 CDJOSG) - Shilo
6th Canadian Division Intelligence Company (6 CD INT COY) - Winnipeg
The division staff was concentrated in Winnipeg to allow some distance between them and the rear headquarters of 3rd Division in Edmonton. 18 GS REGT was mobilized from 20th Independent Field Battery RCA in Lethbridge; the original regiment was an old-school artillery brigade formed in 1920 and serving until 1970 when reduced to one battery in size, then would be remade as an air defence regiment in 1992 until lack of recruiting numbers restored it to single-battery status some years before the Shift. 7 ESR was formed originally in 1920 as a district engineering unit, being advanced to independent field regiment status after World War Two, then was reduced to nil strength in 1965; the unit would reform with help from 39 CER. 6 CDSR would be the effectively mobilized 38 Signal Regiment. 6 CDJSOG would be formed from the rear staff of 3rd Canadian Division Support Group, mostly from the Shilo Garrison. Finally, 6 CD INT COY would be mobilized from 6 Intelligence Company in Edmonton, using the detached platoon in Winnipeg as the headquarters.
20 Wing
20 Wing Headquarters (20 WG HQ) - Portage la Prairie
156 Tactical Transport Helicopter Squadron (156 TTHS) - Portage la Prairie
20 Air Maintenance Squadron (20 AMS) - Portage la Prairie
The RCAF's contribution to the division would be formed with the help of 3 Canadian Forces Flying Training School in Portage la Prairie.
6 Canadian Division Health Services Regiment
6 Canadian Division Health Services Regiment Headquarters (6 CD HSVC REGT HQ) - Winnipeg
16 Field Ambulance (16 FD AMB) - Calgary
17 Field Ambulance (17 FD AMB) - Regina
18 Field Ambulance (18 FD AMB) - Sault Sainte Marie
6 Canadian Field Hospital (6 CFH) - Winnipeg
Recruiting for the Health Services Group's contribution to the division would come via the same units that helped recruit into the 3rd Division's health services regiment, though with added help from 23 Canadian Forces Health Services Centre in Winnipeg and 24 Canadian Forces Health Services Centre's North Bay detachment.
6 Canadian Division Military Police Company
6 Canadian Division Military Police Company Headquarters (6 CDMP COY HQ) - Winnipeg
16 Military Police Platoon (16 MP PL) - Calgary
17 Military Police Platoon (17 MP PL) - Regina
18 Military Police Platoon (18 MP PL) - North Bay
This will be the second company recruited by 1 Military Police Regiment, though 2 Military Police Regiment will also contribute to same.
16 Canadian Armoured Brigade Group (16 CABG)
16 Canadian Armoured Brigade Group Headquarters and Signal Squadron (16 CABG HQ & SIGS) - Calgary
The British Columbia Dragoons (BCD) - Kelowna
The King's Own Calgary Regiment (RCAC) (KOCR) - Calgary
19th Alberta Dragoons (19 ALTA D) - Edmonton
5th (British Columbia) Field Artillery Regiment, RCA (5 FD REGT) - Victoria
1st Battalion, the Rocky Mountain Rangers (1 RM RANG) - Kamloops
16 Combat Engineer Regiment (16 CER) - Trail
116 Tactical Helicopter Squadron (116 THS) - Red Deer
16 Service Battalion (16 SVC BN) - Calgary
This armoured brigade brings together units spanning from Vancouver Island all the way east to Edmonton; personnel from both 39 CBG in BC and 41 CBG in Alberta will help see the brigade brought to full strength. One regiment would have to be recalled from the Supplementary Order of Battle, though: The 19th Alberta Dragoons, which was first formed in 1908 and served until 1965; the new regiment will rise from "B" Squadron of the South Alberta Light Horse (Militia) based in Alberta's capital city. 116 THS would be organized as a detached flight of 408 THS in Edmonton.
17 Canadian Armoured Brigade Group (17 CABG)
17 Canadian Armoured Brigade Group Headquarters and Signal Squadron (17 CABG HQ & SIGS) - Regina
The Saskatchewan Dragoons (SASK D) - Moose Jaw
12th Manitoba Dragoons (12 MAN D) - Virden
14th Canadian Hussars (14 CH) - Swift Current
39th Field Artillery Regiment, RCA (39 FD REGT) - Winnipeg
1st Battalion, the South Saskatchewan Regiment (1 S SASK R) - Estevan
17 Combat Engineer Regiment (17 CER) - Brandon
117 Tactical Helicopter Squadron (117 THS) - Portage la Prairie
17 Service Battalion (17 SVC BN) - Moose Jaw
This would be the "Ghost Brigade" in the eyes of many. Save for one unit, all the fighting elements of the brigade would arise from the Supplementary Order of Battle; by this stage of the game, the sheer number of volunteers joining the Canadian Army has pretty much made the return of such units to active service necessary. The 12th Manitoba Dragoons was formed in 1903 and served until 1964. The 14th Canadian Hussars was formed in 1910 and served until 1968. 39th Field Regiment was formed originally in 1914 as an old-school artillery brigade, serving throughout until 1965. And the South Saskatchewan Regiment was formed originally in 1905, serving until 1968. All other units would be established with the help of personnel from 38 CBG, with 117 THS rising with the help of 3 CFFTS in Portage la Prairie.
18 Canadian Mechanized Brigade Group (18 CMBG)
18 Canadian Mechanized Brigade Group Headquarters and Signal Squadron (18 CMBG HQ & SIGS) - North Bay
The Algonquin Regiment (RCAC) (ALQ R) - North Bay
49th Field Artillery Regiment, RCA (49 FD REGT) - Sault Sainte Marie
1st Battalion, the Lake Superior Scottish Regiment (1 LSSR) - Thunder Bay
1st Battalion, the Grey and Simcoe Foresters (1 GSIM FOR) - Owen Sound
2nd Battalion, the Irish Regiment of Canada (2 IR RC) - Sudbury
18 Combat Engineer Regiment (Northern Pioneers) (18 CER) - Parry Sound
118 Tactical Helicoper Squadron (118 THS) - Thunder Bay
18 Service Battalion (18 SVC BN) - North Bay
Effectively reprising the old Northern Ontario Militia District, but combining the Ontario-based battalion of 38 CBG to make this formation the effective brigade for ALL of northern Ontario, plus cottage country and Huronia. All combat units existed at the time of the Shift, but given the lack of an armoured unit, the Algonquin Regiment was forced to become tankers for the occasion; the regiment had served in the Royal Canadian Armoured Corps from 1954-65. Because the 2nd Battalion of the Irish Regiment was the ONLY element of that regiment existing at the time of the Shift (with a 1st Battalion being mobilized in Toronto to join 7th Division), the stay-home/reinforcement/recruiting unit in Sudbury would be temporarily designated the "3rd Battalion, the Irish Regiment of Canada". All other elements of the brigade would be formed with the help of 31 CBG, 33 CBG and 38 CBG. 118 THS would be stood up as a detached flight from 3 CFFTS.
Next: The masters of the Maple Leaf Route return...in II Canadian Corps.
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Post by stevep on Apr 30, 2019 13:21:01 GMT
pyeknu Love the nickname and how it comes about.  Would definitely confuse the people from the 1940's. Possibly even more if they hear the song and start asking what the hell's rock and roll. Although they might be getting a taste of it already from the Canadians already present. Steve |
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Post by Zyobot on Apr 30, 2019 13:26:40 GMT
pyeknu Love the nickname and how it comes about. Would definitely confuse the people from the 1940's. Possibly even more if they hear the song and start asking what the hell's rock and roll. Although they might be getting a taste of it already from the Canadians already present. Steve In addition to the other musical genres that have emerged since the '40s, that makes me wonder how they'd react to modern German rock music and the bands who churn it out. While maybe not mainstream in this corner of the world IOTL, it's still listened to without the authorities, you know, censoring the ever-living hell out of it. |
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Post by lordroel on Apr 30, 2019 15:02:36 GMT
Now, the time has come...
The Purple People Eaters have arrived...6th Canadian Division (Armoured)!
Huh?
Down-timers: What the heck's a "purple people eater"?!
Well, you can just go here:
So how did that nickname get applied to the second armoured division of the Canadian Army?
Easy to explain. When the first incarnation of the 6th Division was formed for home defence in World War Two IOTL, the division didn't have a specific unit recognition flash colour assigned to it. Instead, said division adopted the red of 1st Division and dark blue of 2nd Division in a diagonally-divided fashion similar to this:
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And while the design did have much to lend to it - and since it was diagonally divided, it could easily be applied to an armoured cavalry division given the standard military map symbol for same - it was decided at Headquarters Canadian Army that the concept of "simple is best" that was followed in IOTL would apply again. Thus, someone came up with the idea of blending the red and blue to get a purple shade. Once someone saw that, they recalled the old Sheb Wooley novelty song from 1958, then commented that II Canadian Corps' armoured fist would be a bunch of "purple people eaters" when they faced the Waffen SS.
The name stuck.
Anyhow, like it's IOTL version, the new 6th Division had to be formed from units all over the country; unlike the older divisions, there was no regional area from which the division could recruit itself. It eventually drew in personnel from units of 3rd Division's territory which hadn't been called up in the older formation, combining same with personnel from the territory of 33 CBG in 4th Division covering northern Ontario.
You know the drill. Let's begin...
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Division Troops
6th Canadian Division Headquarters (6 CDN DIV HQ) - Winnipeg
18th Artillery Regiment (General Support), RCA (18 GS REGT) - Lethbridge
7 Engineer Support Regiment (7 ESR) - Vancouver
6th Canadian Division Signal Regiment (6 CDSR) - Winnipeg
6th Canadian Division Joint Operations Support Group (6 CDJOSG) - Shilo
6th Canadian Division Intelligence Company (6 CD INT COY) - Winnipeg
The division staff was concentrated in Winnipeg to allow some distance between them and the rear headquarters of 3rd Division in Edmonton. 18 GS REGT was mobilized from 20th Independent Field Battery RCA in Lethbridge; the original regiment was an old-school artillery brigade formed in 1920 and serving until 1970 when reduced to one battery in size, then would be remade as an air defence regiment in 1992 until lack of recruiting numbers restored it to single-battery status some years before the Shift. 7 ESR was formed originally in 1920 as a district engineering unit, being advanced to independent field regiment status after World War Two, then was reduced to nil strength in 1965; the unit would reform with help from 39 CER. 6 CDSR would be the effectively mobilized 38 Signal Regiment. 6 CDJSOG would be formed from the rear staff of 3rd Canadian Division Support Group, mostly from the Shilo Garrison. Finally, 6 CD INT COY would be mobilized from 6 Intelligence Company in Edmonton, using the detached platoon in Winnipeg as the headquarters.
20 Wing
20 Wing Headquarters (20 WG HQ) - Portage la Prairie
156 Tactical Transport Helicopter Squadron (156 TTHS) - Portage la Prairie
20 Air Maintenance Squadron (20 AMS) - Portage la Prairie
The RCAF's contribution to the division would be formed with the help of 3 Canadian Forces Flying Training School in Portage la Prairie.
6 Canadian Division Health Services Regiment
6 Canadian Division Health Services Regiment Headquarters (6 CD HSVC REGT HQ) - Winnipeg
16 Field Ambulance (16 FD AMB) - Calgary
17 Field Ambulance (17 FD AMB) - Regina
18 Field Ambulance (18 FD AMB) - Sault Sainte Marie
6 Canadian Field Hospital (6 CFH) - Winnipeg
Recruiting for the Health Services Group's contribution to the division would come via the same units that helped recruit into the 3rd Division's health services regiment, though with added help from 23 Canadian Forces Health Services Centre in Winnipeg and 24 Canadian Forces Health Services Centre's North Bay detachment.
6 Canadian Division Military Police Company
6 Canadian Division Military Police Company Headquarters (6 CDMP COY HQ) - Winnipeg
16 Military Police Platoon (16 MP PL) - Calgary
17 Military Police Platoon (17 MP PL) - Regina
18 Military Police Platoon (18 MP PL) - North Bay
This will be the second company recruited by 1 Military Police Regiment, though 2 Military Police Regiment will also contribute to same.
16 Canadian Armoured Brigade Group (16 CABG)
16 Canadian Armoured Brigade Group Headquarters and Signal Squadron (16 CABG HQ & SIGS) - Calgary
The British Columbia Dragoons (BCD) - Kelowna
The King's Own Calgary Regiment (RCAC) (KOCR) - Calgary
19th Alberta Dragoons (19 ALTA D) - Edmonton
5th (British Columbia) Field Artillery Regiment, RCA (5 FD REGT) - Victoria
1st Battalion, the Rocky Mountain Rangers (1 RM RANG) - Kamloops
16 Combat Engineer Regiment (16 CER) - Trail
116 Tactical Helicopter Squadron (116 THS) - Red Deer
16 Service Battalion (16 SVC BN) - Calgary
This armoured brigade brings together units spanning from Vancouver Island all the way east to Edmonton; personnel from both 39 CBG in BC and 41 CBG in Alberta will help see the brigade brought to full strength. One regiment would have to be recalled from the Supplementary Order of Battle, though. The 19th Alberta Dragoons, which was first formed in 1908 and served until 1965; the new regiment will rise from "B" Squadron of the South Alberta Light Horse (Militia) based in Alberta's capital city. 116 THS would be organized as a detached flight of 408 THS in Edmonton.
17 Canadian Armoured Brigade Group (17 CABG)
17 Canadian Armoured Brigade Group Headquarters and Signal Squadron (17 CABG HQ & SIGS) - Regina
The Saskatchewan Dragoons (SASK D) - Moose Jaw
12th Manitoba Dragoons (12 MAN D) - Virden
14th Canadian Hussars (14 CH) - Swift Current
39th Field Artillery Regiment, RCA (39 FD REGT) - Winnipeg
1st Battalion, the South Saskatchewan Regiment (1 S SASK R) - Estevan
17 Combat Engineer Regiment (17 CER) - Brandon
117 Tactical Helicopter Squadron (117 THS) - Portage la Prairie
17 Service Battalion (17 SVC BN) - Moose Jaw
This would be the "Ghost Brigade" in the eyes of many; save for one unit, all the fighting elements of the brigade would arise from the Supplementary Order of Battle; by this stage of the game, the sheer number of volunteers joining the Canadian Army has pretty much opened. The 12th Manitoba Dragoons was formed in 1903 and served until 1964. The 14th Canadian Hussars was formed in 1910 and served until 1968. 39th Field Regiment was formed originally in 1914 as an old-school artillery brigade, serving throughout until 1965. And the South Saskatchewan Regiment was formed originally in 1905, serving until 1968. All other units would be established with the help of personnel from 38 CBG, with 117 THS rising with the help of 3 CFFTS in Portage la Prairie.
18 Canadian Mechanized Brigade Group (18 CMBG)
18 Canadian Mechanized Brigade Group Headquarters and Signal Squadron (18 CMBG HQ & SIGS) - North Bay
The Algonquin Regiment (RCAC) (ALQ R) - North Bay
49th Field Artillery Regiment, RCA (49 FD REGT) - Sault Sainte Marie
1st Battalion, the Lake Superior Scottish Regiment (1 LSSR) - Thunder Bay
1st Battalion, the Grey and Simcoe Foresters (1 GSIM FOR) - Owen Sound
2nd Battalion, the Irish Regiment of Canada (2 IR RC) - Sudbury
18 Combat Engineer Regiment (Northern Pioneers) (18 CER) - Parry Sound
118 Tactical Helicoper Squadron (118 THS) - Thunder Bay
18 Service Battalion (18 SVC BN) - North Bay
Effectively reprising the old Northern Ontario Militia District, but combining the Ontario-based battalion of 38 CBG to make this formation the effective brigade for ALL of northern Ontario. All combat units existed at the time of the Shift, but given the lack of an armoured unit, the Algonquin Regiment was forced to become tankers for the occasion; the regiment had served in the Royal Canadian Armoured Corps from 1954-65. Because the 2nd Battalion of the Irish Regiment was the ONLY element of that regiment existing at the time of the Shift (with a 1st Battalion being mobilized in Toronto to join 7th Division), the stay-home/reinforcement/recruiting unit in Sudbury would be temporarily designated the "3rd Battalion, the Irish Regiment of Canada". All other elements of the brigade would be formed with the help of 33 CBG and 38 CBG. 118 THS would be stood up as a detached flight from 3 CFFTS.
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Post by pyeknu on Apr 30, 2019 22:10:26 GMT
Three divisions now in the field?
Time to add corps troops.
You all know the drill...
...and here is II Canadian Corps.
Corps Troops
II Canadian Corps Headquarters (II CDN CORPS HQ) - Calgary
9 Canadian Signal Regiment (9 CSR) - Calgary
2 Military Police Battalion (2 MP BN) - Chilliwack
2 Intelligence Battalion (2 INT BN) - Halifax
Unlike I Corps, II Corps would be an English-speaking formation (save for the New Brunswick brigade of 5th Division), so it was decided to keep almost all the corps troops as English speakers; much that the need to acknowledge the Official Language Act was always there, it was simply easier to keep control of things when one had one operational language in the field. However, the national nature of the formation required some long shifts of personnel to form the various working groups. Of course, II Corps Headquarters would stand up with help of 3rd Division Headquarters (Rear) in Edmonton, augmented by CADTC/I Corps (Rear) Headquarters in Kingston. 9 Canadian Signal Regiment would be formed around 41 Signal Regiment in Calgary, augmented by the Joint Signal Regiment in Kingston. 2 Military Police Battalion would be mobilized by drafts from 1 MP Regiment in the West, 2 MP Regiment in Ontario and 3 MP Regiment in the Atlantic provinces, gathering together at the old engineer training base in Chilliwack upriver from Vancouver. And 2 Intelligence Battalion would be formed by 3 Intelligence Company in Halifax, augmented by the other companies of the Canadian Forces Intelligence Regiment across the nation.
II Canadian Corps Artillery Brigade (II CCAB)
II Canadian Corps Artillery Brigade Headquarters and Signal Squadron (II CCAB HQ & SIGS) - Shilo
69th (Target Acquisition) Artillery Regiment, RCA (69 TA REGT) - Winnipeg
3rd (Missile) Regiment, Royal Canadian Horse Artillery (3 RCHA) - Shilo
4th (Missile) Regiment, Royal Canadian Horse Artillery (4 RCHA) - Petawawa
64th (New Brunswick) Air Defence Regiment, RCA (64 AD REGT) - Miramichi
21 Service Battalion (Forward Support) (21 FS BN) - Shilo
II Corps' artillery formation would coalesce at the old artillery training base in Shilo, its headquarters staff being formed in part by the Royal Regiment of Canadian Artillery School in Gagetown. All regiments in the brigade were either drawn from the Supplementary Order of Battle or are new units. With missile artillery now a viable option for the Canadian Army, the two regiments of the Royal Canadian Horse Artillery that were at nil strength at the time of the Shift were brought to active service, with the 3rd Regiment RCHA reforming at Shilo (it had been the artillery force of 1 CMBG until 1992 when 1 RCHA was repatriated from Europe) and the 4th Regiment RCHA reforming at Petawawa (it had been the artillery force of 2 CMBG's ancestral formation until 1970 when 2 RCHA replaced it to allow 5e RALC to stand up) thanks to the rear staff of 1 RCHA and 2 RCHA respectively. The 69th Target Acquisition Regiment is a brand-new tactical regiment, though it takes its number from the original name of the 1st Target Acquisition Regiment when it was formed in 1946 (as the "69th Survey Regiment RCA"), thus making the two units sister regiments. And the 64th Air Defence Regiment was a short-lived post-war light anti-aircraft artillery unit formed from the conversion of the old New Brunswick Regiment (Tank), a creation of the 1936 Militia reforms. The regiment was disbanded in 1959 without being allowed to enter the Supplementary Order of Battle; the new regiment would be raised with help from the Artillery School and the rear troops of 4th General Support Regiment in Gagetown, the rear troops of the 3rd Field Regiment in Saint John and the rear troops of the 12th Air Defence Regiment in Moncton. And 21 Forward Support Battalion would be formed with the help of 3rd Canadian Division Support Group's Shilo detachment.
II Canadian Corps Combat Support Brigade (II CCCSB)
II Canadian Corps Combat Support Brigade Headquarters and Signal Squadron (II CCCSB HQ & SIGS) - Red Deer
13 Engineer Support Regiment (13 ESR) - Chilliwack
14 Engineer Support Regiment (14 ESR) - Gagetown
70 Electronic Warfare Regiment (70 EWR) - Red Deer
22 Service Battalion (Forward Support) (22 FS BN) - Red Deer
The combat support brigade of the corps would form around the new 70 Electronic Warfare Regiment, formed mostly from new drafts trained by 41 Signal Regiment's local squadron in Red Deer, with help from 21 Electronic Warfare Regiment (Rear) in Kingston. The two engineer support regiments are also brand-new units; one would form at the old engineer training base at Chilliwack with the help of 39 Combat Engineer Regiment (which is headquartered there) while the other come together at Gagetown with the help of the Canadian Forces School of Military Engineering and 37 Combat Engineer Regiment in nearby Fredericton. Of course, 22 Forward Support Battalion would be formed at Red Deer with the help of 41 Service Battalion and 3rd Canadian Division Support Group's Edmonton detachment.
10 Canadian Air Group (10 CAG)
10 Canadian Air Group Headquarters and Communications Squadron (10 CAG HQ & CS) - Winnipeg
242 Transport Squadron (242 TS) - Winnipeg
10 Air Communications and Control Squadron (10 ACCS) - Moose Jaw
10 Air Movement Squadron (10 AMVS) - Trenton
10 Air Logistics Squadron (10 ALS) - Winnipeg
The corps' integral air group would arise thanks to 17 Wing in Winnipeg, which is where the headquarters of 1 Canadian Air Division is also located. The squadrons would be brand new, but formed with the help of existing squadrons. 242 Squadron would be formed as a detached flight of 435 (Chinthe) Transport and Rescue Squadron at Winnipeg. 10 Air Communications and Control Squadron would come together at Moose Jaw and work up with 15 Air Traffic Control Squadron at the same-numbered wing; it was the only static air traffic control unit of the RCAF at the time of the Shift. 10 Air Movements Squadron would form with help of 2 Air Movements Squadron in Trenton. And 10 Air Logistics Squadron would come together at Winnipeg from logistics staff drawn all across 1 Air Division.
28 WING
28 Wing Headquarters (28 WING HQ) - Edmonton
172 Reconnaissance Squadron (172 RNS) - Greenwood
182 Attack Helicopter Squadron (182 AHS) - Fort Erie
202 Tactical Helicopter Squadron (202 THS) - Borden
204 Tactical Helicopter Squadron (204 THS) - Edmonton
28 Air Maintenance Squadron (28 AMS) - Edmonton
Formed as detached elements of 18 Wing, 28 Wing would draw in air personnel across the nation. 172 Reconnaissance Squadron would get their CU-157 Guardians from Bombardier in Mirabel, but work up at 14 Wing in Greenwood with the maritime patrol community before joining II Corps. As Airbus Helicopters in Fort Erie was the only place where the CH-172 Lakota was being built, 182 Attack Squadron would form up beside its sister squadron as a detached flight before being made independent. And both 202 and 204 Squadrons would be formed as independent flights of 400 Squadron and 408 Squadron respectively.
II Canadian Corps Health Services Brigade (II CCHSB)
II Canadian Corps Health Services Brigade Headquarters and Signal Squadron (II CCHSB HQ & SIGS) - Vancouver
11 Canadian Field Hospital (Combat Support) (11 CFH) - Halifax
12 Canadian Field Hospital (Combat Support) (12 CFH) - Calgary
14 Health Services Regiment (General Support) (14 HSR) - Toronto
15 Health Services Regiment (Combat Support) (15 HSR) - Regina
16 Dental Services Regiment (16 DSR) - Winnipeg
23 Service Battalion (Forward Support) (23 FS BN) - Vancouver
The health services force would a mirror of I Corps' formation, drawing in personnel mostly from western Canada with augmentation from Ontario and the Atlantic Provinces.
II Canadian Corps Operational Support Brigade (II CCOSB)
II Canadian Corps Operational Support Brigade Headquarters and Signal Squadron (II CCOSB HQ & SIGS) - Calgary
3 Administration Battalion (3 ADM BN) - Victoria
6 Transport Battalion (6 TPT BN) - London
7 Workshop Battalion (7 WKSP BN) - Regina
8 Supply Battalion (8 SUP BN) - Edmonton
2 Service Battalion (General Support) (2 GS BN) - Calgary
Again, II Corps' operational support brigade would be a mirror of I Corps' formation, formed with the help of logistics and RCEME personnel across the nation.
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Post by lordroel on May 1, 2019 3:18:07 GMT
Three divisions now in the field?
Time to add corps troops.
You all know the drill...
...and here is II Canadian Corps.
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Corps Troops
II Canadian Corps Headquarters (II CDN CORPS HQ) - Calgary
9 Canadian Signal Regiment (9 CSR) - Calgary
2 Military Police Battalion (2 MP BN) - Chilliwack
2 Intelligence Battalion (2 INT BN) - Halifax
Unlike I Corps, II Corps would be an English-speaking formation (save for the New Brunswick brigade of 5th Division), so it was decided to keep almost all the corps troops as English speakers; much that the need to acknowledge the Official Language Act was always there, it was simply easier to keep control of things when one had one operational language in the field. However, the national nature of the formation required some long shifts of personnel to form the various working groups. Of course, II Corps Headquarters would stand up with help of 3rd Division Headquarters (Rear) in Edmonton, augmented by CADTC/I Corps (Rear) Headquarters in Kingston. 9 Canadian Signal Regiment would be formed around 41 Signal Regiment in Calgary, augmented by the Joint Signal Regiment in Kingston. 2 Military Police Battalion would be mobilized by drafts from 1 MP Regiment in the West, 2 MP Regiment in Ontario and 3 MP Regiment in the Atlantic provinces, gathering together at the old engineer training base in Chilliwack upriver from Vancouver. And 2 Intelligence Battalion would be formed by 3 Intelligence Company in Halifax, augmented by the other companies of the Canadian Forces Intelligence Regiment across the nation.
II Canadian Corps Artillery Brigade (II CCAB)
II Canadian Corps Artillery Brigade Headquarters and Signal Squadron (II CCAB HQ & SIGS) - Shilo
69th (Target Acquisition) Artillery Regiment, RCA (69 TA REGT) - Winnipeg
3rd (Missile) Regiment, Royal Canadian Horse Artillery (3 RCHA) - Shilo
4th (Missile) Regiment, Royal Canadian Horse Artillery (4 RCHA) - Petawawa
64th (New Brunswick) Air Defence Regiment, RCA (64 AD REGT) - Miramichi
21 Service Battalion (Forward Support) (21 FS BN) - Shilo
II Corps' artillery formation would coalesce at the old artillery training base in Shilo, its headquarters staff being formed in part by the Royal Regiment of Canadian Artillery School in Gagetown. All regiments in the brigade were either drawn from the Supplementary Order of Battle or are new units. With missile artillery now a viable option for the Canadian Army, the two regiments of the Royal Canadian Horse Artillery that were at nil strength at the time of the Shift were brought to active service, with the 3rd Regiment RCHA reforming at Shilo (it had been the artillery force of 1 CMBG until 1992 when 1 RCHA was repatriated from Europe) and the 4th Regiment RCHA reforming at Petawawa (it had been the artillery force of 2 CMBG's ancestral formation until 1970 when 2 RCHA replaced it to allow 5e RALC to stand up) thanks to the rear staff of 1 RCHA and 2 RCHA respectively. The 69th Target Acquisition Regiment is a brand-new tactical regiment, though it takes its number from the original name of the 1st Target Acquisition Regiment when it was formed in 1946 (as the "69th Survey Regiment RCA"), thus making the two units sister regiments. And the 64th Air Defence Regiment was a short-lived post-war light anti-aircraft artillery unit formed from the conversion of the old New Brunswick Regiment (Tank), a creation of the 1936 Militia reforms. The regiment was disbanded in 1959 without being allowed to enter the Supplementary Order of Battle; the new regiment would be raised with help from the Artillery School and the rear troops of 4th General Support Regiment in Gagetown, the rear troops of the 3rd Field Regiment in Saint John and the rear troops of the 12th Air Defence Regiment in Moncton. And 21 Forward Support Battalion would be formed with the help of 3rd Canadian Division Support Group's Shilo detachment.
II Canadian Corps Combat Support Brigade (II CCCSB)
II Canadian Corps Combat Support Brigade Headquarters and Signal Squadron (II CCCSB HQ & SIGS) - Red Deer
13 Engineer Support Regiment (13 ESR) - Chilliwack
14 Engineer Support Regiment (14 ESR) - Gagetown
70 Electronic Warfare Regiment (70 EWR) - Red Deer
22 Service Battalion (Forward Support) (22 FS BN) - Red Deer
The combat support brigade of the corps would form around the new 70 Electronic Warfare Regiment, formed mostly from new drafts trained by 41 Signal Regiment's local squadron in Red Deer, with help from 21 Electronic Warfare Regiment (Rear) in Kingston. The two engineer support regiments are also brand-new units; one would form at the old engineer training base at Chilliwack with the help of 39 Combat Engineer Regiment (which is headquartered there) while the other come together at Gagetown with the help of the Canadian Forces School of Military Engineering and 37 Combat Engineer Regiment in nearby Fredericton. Of course, 22 Forward Support Battalion would be formed at Red Deer with the help of 41 Service Battalion and 3rd Canadian Division Support Group's Edmonton detachment.
10 Canadian Air Group (10 CAG)
10 Canadian Air Group Headquarters and Communications Squadron (10 CAG HQ & CS) - Winnipeg
242 Transport Squadron (242 TS) - Winnipeg
10 Air Communications and Control Squadron (10 ACCS) - Moose Jaw
10 Air Movement Squadron (10 AMVS) - Trenton
10 Air Logistics Squadron (10 ALS) - Winnipeg
The corps' integral air group would arise thanks to 17 Wing in Winnipeg, which is where the headquarters of 1 Canadian Air Division is also located. The squadrons would be brand new, but formed with the help of existing squadrons. 242 Squadron would be formed as a detached flight of 435 (Chinthe) Transport and Rescue Squadron at Winnipeg. 10 Air Communications and Control Squadron would come together at Moose Jaw and work up with 15 Air Traffic Control Squadron at the same-numbered wing; it was the only static air traffic control unit of the RCAF at the time of the Shift. 10 Air Movements Squadron would form with help of 2 Air Movements Squadron in Trenton. And 10 Air Logistics Squadron would come together at Winnipeg from logistics staff drawn all across 1 Air Division.
28 WING
28 Wing Headquarters (28 WING HQ) - Edmonton
172 Reconnaissance Squadron (172 RNS) - Greenwood
182 Attack Helicopter Squadron (182 AHS) - Fort Erie
202 Tactical Helicopter Squadron (202 THS) - Borden
204 Tactical Helicopter Squadron (204 THS) - Edmonton
28 Air Maintenance Squadron (28 AMS) - Edmonton
Formed as detached elements of 18 Wing, 28 Wing would draw in air personnel across the nation. 172 Reconnaissance Squadron would get their CU-157 Guardians from Bombardier in Mirabel, but work up at 14 Wing in Greenwood with the maritime patrol community before joining II Corps. As Airbus Helicopters in Fort Erie was the only place where the CH-172 Lakota was being built, 182 Attack Squadron would form up beside its sister squadron as a detached flight before being made independent. And both 202 and 204 Squadrons would be formed as independent flights of 400 Squadron and 408 Squadron respectively.
II Canadian Corps Health Services Brigade (II CCHSB)
II Canadian Corps Health Services Brigade Headquarters and Signal Squadron (II CCHSB HQ & SIGS) - Vancouver
11 Canadian Field Hospital (Combat Support) (11 CFH) - Halifax
12 Canadian Field Hospital (Combat Support) (12 CFH) - Calgary
14 Health Services Regiment (General Support) (14 HSR) - Toronto
15 Health Services Regiment (Combat Support) (15 HSR) - Regina
16 Dental Services Regiment (16 DSR) - Winnipeg
23 Service Battalion (Forward Support) (23 FS BN) - Vancouver
The health services force would a mirror of I Corps' formation, drawing in personnel mostly from western Canada with augmentation from Ontario and the Atlantic Provinces.
II Canadian Corps Operational Support Brigade (II CCOSB)
II Canadian Corps Operational Support Brigade Headquarters and Signal Squadron (II CCOSB HQ & SIGS) - Calgary
3 Administration Battalion (3 ADM BN) - Victoria
6 Transport Battalion (6 TPT BN) - London
7 Workshop Battalion (7 WKSP BN) - Regina
8 Supply Battalion (8 SUP BN) - Edmonton
2 Service Battalion (General Support) (2 GS BN) - Calgary
Again, II Corps' operational support brigade would be a mirror of I Corps' formation, formed with the help of logistics and RCEME personnel across the nation.
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Will we also see something like the First Canadian Army of OTL World War II. Yes, we will. I just have to decide what would be right for both First Army and the CJOC-O. |
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Will we also see something like the First Canadian Army of OTL World War II. Yes, we will. I just have to decide what would be right for both First Army and the CJOC-O. So what about the 1st and 2nd Army, do they also exist then. |
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Post by redrobin65 on May 1, 2019 19:38:10 GMT
German Forces: Operation CORNERSTONE
Netherlands Command
German Eleventh Army
German LIV Corps
--22nd Infantry Division
--132nd Infantry Division
--170th Infantry Division
German XXX Corps
--28th Infantry Division
--50th Infantry Division
--72nd Infantry Division
Army Group A: North Rhine
German Second Army
German IX Corps
--45th Infantry Division
--267th Infantry Division
--294th Infantry Division
--11th SS Division
German VI Corps
--211th Infantry Division
--293rd Infantry Division
--12th Panzer Division
German First Army
German XXXVII Corps
--60th Infantry Division
--215th Infantry Division
--257th Infantry Division
German XXI Corps
--79th Infantry Division
--93rd Infantry Division
--258th Infantry Division
German Twentieth Army
German LXV Corps
--1st Cavalry Division
--225th Infantry Division
German LXVI Corps
--338th Infantry Division
--342nd Infantry Division
--347th Infantry Division
Army Group A Reserves
--6th Mountain Division
--95th Infantry Division
--167th Infantry Division
--252nd Infantry Division
Army Group B: Central/South Rhine Front
German Seventh Army
German XXXIII Corps
--213th Infantry Division
--239th Infantry Division
--554th Infantry Division
German XXV Corps
--218th Infantry Division
--221st Infantry Division
--556th Infantry Division
--19th Panzer Regiment
German Third Army
German X Corps
--227th Infantry Division
--254th Infantry Division
--256th Infantry Division
German XIII Corps
--207th Infantry Division
--8th SS Division
--22nd Air Landing Division
German Tenth Army
German LIII Corps
--31st Infantry Division
--16th Panzer Division
--366th Infantry Division
German LXXX Corps
--99th Infantry Division
--247th Infantry Division
Army Group B Reserves
--280th Infantry Division
--570th Infantry Division
Army of Berlin
--455th Infantry Division
--707th Static Infantry Division
--709th Static Infantry Division
--14th SS Division
--17th SS Division
--23rd SS Division
Denmark Command
--198th Infantry Division
Schleswig-Holstein Command
--112th Infantry Division
--7th Air Division
--196th Infantry Division
--288th Infantry Division
--600th Static Infantry Division
Army of East Prussia
--165th Infantry Division
--240th Infantry Division
--20th SS Division
Army of Poland
German XL Corps
--7th Infantry Division
--29th Infantry Division
--66th Infantry Division
--26th SS Division
German XXXIX Corps
--19th SS Division
--14th Infantry Division
--90th Infantry Division
--183rd Infantry Division
Austria Command
--304th Infantry Division
Bavaria Command
--230th Infantry Division
--255th Infantry Division
--477th Infantry Division
--481st Infantry Division
Bohemia-Moravia-Slovakia Command
--275th Infantry Division
--281st Infantry Division
--319th Static Infantry Division
--334th Infantry Division
Weser-Elbe Command
German XXIX Corps
--41st Infantry Division
--85th Infantry Division
--340th Infantry Division
German XLII Corps
--78th Infantry Division
--106th Infantry Division
--115th Infantry Division
German XLVII Corps
--114th Infantry Division
--141st Infantry Division
--21st Panzer Division
German XC Corps
--147th Infantry Division
--152nd Infantry Division
--178th Infantry Division
German XCI Corps
--217th Infantry Division
--268th Infantry Division
--359th Infantry Division
German LXXI Corps
--117th Infantry Division
--128th Infantry Division
--199th Infantry Division
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Post by pyeknu on May 1, 2019 21:44:52 GMT
Yes, we will. I just have to decide what would be right for both First Army and the CJOC-O. So what about the 1st and 2nd Army, do they also exist then. No. Only First Canadian Army. |
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Would definitely confuse the people from the 1940's. Possibly even more if they hear the song and start asking what the hell's rock and roll. Although they might be getting a taste of it already from the Canadians already present.
