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Post by Zyobot on Jan 26, 2020 17:56:56 GMT
'Darth Vader To Battle Force 5'. Maybe he's sent to a Battlezone with abandoned workshops and/or warehouses full of parts so that he can scrape together a vehicle, which would probably be more like a TIE Mauler if I had to guess. Sentient technology may be more than what most humans can hope to understand, but as we've seen repeatedly throughout the Star Wars franchise, Vader's no average human--with the engineering prowess and survival skills to prove it time and time again. If anything, he'd probably be surprised at how lacking certain technologies are, namely ubiquitous starships and a wide range of sentient AI instead of Sark (though the existence of Battlekeys, Battlezones and time-manipulation machinery may very well intrigue him). Plus, he's also not overwhelmingly dependent on his vehicle to defend himself if need be, so there's that.
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Post by lordroel on Jan 27, 2020 4:03:34 GMT
'Darth Vader To Battle Force 5'. Maybe he's sent to a Battlezone with abandoned workshops and/or warehouses full of parts so that he can scrape together a vehicle, which would probably be more like a TIE Mauler if I had to guess. Sentient technology may be more than what most humans can hope to understand, but as we've seen repeatedly throughout the Star Wars franchise, Vader's no average human--with the engineering prowess and survival skills to prove it time and time again. If anything, he'd probably be surprised at how lacking certain technologies are, namely ubiquitous starships and a wide range of sentient AI instead of Sark (though the existence of Battlekeys, Battlezones and time-manipulation machinery may very well intrigue him). Plus, he's also not overwhelmingly dependent on his vehicle to defend himself if need be, so there's that. What will be Darth Vader mission in the Battle Force 5 verse.
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Post by Zyobot on Jan 27, 2020 11:23:04 GMT
'Darth Vader To Battle Force 5'. Maybe he's sent to a Battlezone with abandoned workshops and/or warehouses full of parts so that he can scrape together a vehicle, which would probably be more like a TIE Mauler if I had to guess. Sentient technology may be more than what most humans can hope to understand, but as we've seen repeatedly throughout the Star Wars franchise, Vader's no average human--with the engineering prowess and survival skills to prove it time and time again. If anything, he'd probably be surprised at how lacking certain technologies are, namely ubiquitous starships and a wide range of sentient AI instead of Sark (though the existence of Battlekeys, Battlezones and time-manipulation machinery may very well intrigue him). Plus, he's also not overwhelmingly dependent on his vehicle to defend himself if need be, so there's that. What will be Darth Vader mission in the Battle Force 5 verse. I dunno if it’d turn into a specific mission, so much as Vader scraping to survive at first. Gathering munitions, setting up shop, learning the ins and outs of the Multiverse, and avoiding trouble whenever he can (as well as countering his potential enemies whenever they threaten or hassle him). Perhaps if and when he makes himself known to BF5 and/or Sentient civilization, it’ll preferably be as a non-enemy (even if not necessarily an ally, which Vader would probably only become if it were convenient for him to do so). Maybe he could lend them his services in exchange for certain payment from time to time, though what they’d want from Vader in the first place, I’m unsure. Of course, there’s the possibility that even if he’s not bent on conquest (at least for now), he might come across a dormant, though still-functional factory somewhere and crank out his own robot army, probably one based as much off of original droid designs or those that he’s familiar with back in his home universe as much as possible to distinguish himself from the also-robotic Sark. Not to mention the other supplies and advanced machinery that Vader could pump out with Sentient technology under his control, which he may very well come to grasp via his prolific engineering skills and enhanced Force perception.
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Post by lordroel on Jan 27, 2020 15:03:19 GMT
What will be Darth Vader mission in the Battle Force 5 verse. I dunno if it’d turn into a specific mission, so much as Vader scraping to survive at first. Gathering munitions, setting up shop, learning the ins and outs of the Multiverse, and avoiding trouble whenever he can (as well as countering his potential enemies whenever they threaten or hassle him). Perhaps if and when he makes himself known to BF5 and/or Sentient civilization, it’ll preferably be as a non-enemy (even if not necessarily an ally, which Vader would probably only become if it were convenient for him to do so). Maybe he could lend them his services in exchange for certain payment from time to time, though what they’d want from Vader in the first place, I’m unsure. Of course, there’s the possibility that even if he’s not bent on conquest (at least for now), he might come across a dormant, though still-functional factory somewhere and crank out his own robot army, probably one based as much off of original droid designs or those that he’s familiar with back in his home universe as much as possible to distinguish himself from the also-robotic Sark. Not to mention the other supplies and advanced machinery that Vader could pump out with Sentient technology under his control, which he may very well come to grasp via his prolific engineering skills and enhanced Force perception. So who could he team up with.
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Post by Zyobot on Jan 27, 2020 16:30:55 GMT
I dunno if it’d turn into a specific mission, so much as Vader scraping to survive at first. Gathering munitions, setting up shop, learning the ins and outs of the Multiverse, and avoiding trouble whenever he can (as well as countering his potential enemies whenever they threaten or hassle him). Perhaps if and when he makes himself known to BF5 and/or Sentient civilization, it’ll preferably be as a non-enemy (even if not necessarily an ally, which Vader would probably only become if it were convenient for him to do so). Maybe he could lend them his services in exchange for certain payment from time to time, though what they’d want from Vader in the first place, I’m unsure. Of course, there’s the possibility that even if he’s not bent on conquest (at least for now), he might come across a dormant, though still-functional factory somewhere and crank out his own robot army, probably one based as much off of original droid designs or those that he’s familiar with back in his home universe as much as possible to distinguish himself from the also-robotic Sark. Not to mention the other supplies and advanced machinery that Vader could pump out with Sentient technology under his control, which he may very well come to grasp via his prolific engineering skills and enhanced Force perception. So who could he team up with. ...Honestly, I'm not sure who. Barring becoming a sort of private consultant/mercenary-for-hire or founder of his own faction, I don't know who Vader would team up with. Battle Force Five is too principled and heroic for someone like Vader, being dedicated to saving the Multiverse and safeguarding its civilization from tyranny and destruction. And due to his alignment and best interests, I don't think our favorite Sith Lord is up to that task anytime soon unless it fulfills his agenda (meaning he probably has an ulterior motive if he ever joins in on the heroics).
The Vandals are too savage and beastly, scientifically and technologically illiterate brutes who believe in "black magic" and might try to "experiment" with Vader if they ever get wind of his Force powers (which I've also allowed him to keep for this scenario). Plus, Captain Kallus would not appreciate being upstaged by someone whose not only a demonstrably more OP combatant, but also more cerebral and calculating to the extent where he's likely a far better strategist and tactician that yours truly. And depending on when he's dropped in, both Kallus and the rest of the Vandals have bad memories of how their tribe fell apart due to Grimian, so there's that.
Zemerik and his Sark, while arguably the most in line with Vader for their coldly logical rationality, intellectual rigor and mechanical disposition that would secretly excite Vader's inner engineer, are ultimately villainous and likely to backstab him the first chance they get to further their master's agenda of conquering the Multiverse. And Zug, dim-witted though loyal second-in-command that he is, would come to perpetually irritate Vader for his blunders and stupidity. Plus, watching the series over again gives me the impression that Zemerik, and consequentially the Sark army under his command, aren't good at playing the long game due to how their individual plots to thwart Battle Force Five last for only a few episodes at a time, at best. While Vader, with decades of experience commanding troops during the Clone Wars as a Jedi and routing out rebels as head of the Imperial Military, knows more than most about how to operate in that capacity. It is, to be fair, not a shortcoming exclusive to the Sark (with the Vandals also sporting this flaw, and the other factions to some extent).
Later in the series, the Red Sentients, while combining the the ferocity of the Vandals and technological aptitude of the Sark, are too wild and unstable--especially with an excessively agressive and domineering leader like Krytus at the helm. They're also plenty treacherous when need be, and even though treachery is still the way of Sith like Vader, he'll still have their Red Sark Army to deal with should he strike any of the Red Sentient Five down or orchestrate their demise in some "mysterious accident". He also has the whole respawn chambers thing as another thorn in his side, so he'll have to track down and destroy them ASAP if he wants to prevent some vengeful Red Sentients from coming back to excise him from the team and trying to kill him in turn.
The united Sentient civilization at the end of the series, which comes about from both Blues and Reds ending their eons-long war and essentially becoming friends again, might still be too benevolent to suit Vader's agenda. He may work with them from time to time if it benefits him, but they're probably not always willing to do what an authoritarian like Vader thinks "ought to be done" in order to facilitate a strong and stable civilization. If anything, the fact that they had a war that somewhat parallels the Clone Wars that tore his home Galaxy in two before an Empire emerge from the ashes might make Vader all the more wary in regards to how long they can last without some superior body to impose order with an iron fist. Which its leading Council of Five doesn't seem to prioritize at the moment.
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Post by lordroel on Jan 28, 2020 4:43:01 GMT
So who could he team up with.
The Vandals are too savage and beastly, scientifically and technologically illiterate brutes who believe in "black magic" and might try to "experiment" with Vader if they ever get wind of his Force powers (which I've also allowed him to keep for this scenario). Plus, Captain Kallus would not appreciate being upstaged by someone whose not only a demonstrably more OP combatant, but also more cerebral and calculating to the extent where he's likely a far better strategist and tactician that yours truly. And depending on when he's dropped in, both Kallus and the rest of the Vandals have bad memories of how their tribe fell apart due to Grimian, so there's that. Think he would like that, a challenge to get them under control is something i see Vader doing.
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Post by Zyobot on Jan 28, 2020 16:02:30 GMT
The Vandals are too savage and beastly, scientifically and technologically illiterate brutes who believe in "black magic" and might try to "experiment" with Vader if they ever get wind of his Force powers (which I've also allowed him to keep for this scenario). Plus, Captain Kallus would not appreciate being upstaged by someone whose not only a demonstrably more OP combatant, but also more cerebral and calculating to the extent where he's likely a far better strategist and tactician that yours truly. And depending on when he's dropped in, both Kallus and the rest of the Vandals have bad memories of how their tribe fell apart due to Grimian, so there's that. Think he would like that, a challenge to get them under control is something i see Vader doing. He might, though Vader would remain mostly preoccupied with survival in at least the short run. However, the Vandals are still savage brutes who believe in black magic and would likely crucify Vader if they had it their way. Defeating Captain Kallus in single combat may be easy, though he’ll have to deal with more clandestine elements of the Vandal hordes that want him gone. Not to mention the Brobdingnagian task of educating a tribal people who blankly stare when someone like Vert off-handedly mentions ‘Algebra I’. Plus, the Vandals have enslaved the technologically advanced Kharamanos so that they can build and maintain their vehicles and other complex wargear beyond simplistic equipment like spears and crossbows and such. And, as villainous as he normally is, Vader would not like slavery. If anything, a Vader forced to work with the Vandals—depending on when in the series he’s been sent to the Multiverse and where—may be more likely to plan and help coordinate a successful slave revolt in which the liberated Kharamanos repay him for his help. The fact that some mysterious, asthmatic, black-clad stranger freed the Kharamanos from Vandal enslavement while Battle Force Five couldn’t might also boost his PR while damaging that of his competitors. Depending on where Vader wants to go with this, it might help him build up a reputation ahead of time and later, an economic (and later still possible armed) base of sorts.
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Post by lordroel on Jan 28, 2020 16:07:18 GMT
Think he would like that, a challenge to get them under control is something i see Vader doing. He might, though Vader would remain mostly preoccupied with survival in at least the short run. However, the Vandals are still savage brutes who believe in black magic and would likely crucify Vader if they had it their way. Defeating Captain Kallus in single combat may be easy, though he’ll have to deal with more clandestine elements of the Vandal hordes that want him gone. Not to mention the Brobdingnagian task of educating a tribal people who blankly stare when someone like Vert off-handedly mentions ‘Algebra I’. Plus, the Vandals have enslaved the technologically advanced Kharamanos so that they can build and maintain their vehicles and other complex wargear beyond simplistic equipment like spears and crossbows and such. And, as villainous as he normally is, Vader would not like slavery. If anything, a Vader forced to work with the Vandals—depending on when in the series he’s been sent to the Multiverse and where—may be more likely to plan and help coordinate a successful slave revolt in which the liberated Kharamanos repay him for his help. The fact that some mysterious, asthmatic, black-clad stranger freed the Kharamanos from Vandal enslavement while Battle Force Five couldn’t might also boost his PR while damaging that of his competitors. Depending on where Vader wants to go with this, it might help him build up a reputation ahead of time and later, an economic (and later still possible armed) base of sorts. So you are saying the Vandals are more brutal than Vader, and he has been true a lot.
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Post by Zyobot on Jan 28, 2020 16:17:24 GMT
He might, though Vader would remain mostly preoccupied with survival in at least the short run. However, the Vandals are still savage brutes who believe in black magic and would likely crucify Vader if they had it their way. Defeating Captain Kallus in single combat may be easy, though he’ll have to deal with more clandestine elements of the Vandal hordes that want him gone. Not to mention the Brobdingnagian task of educating a tribal people who blankly stare when someone like Vert off-handedly mentions ‘Algebra I’. Plus, the Vandals have enslaved the technologically advanced Kharamanos so that they can build and maintain their vehicles and other complex wargear beyond simplistic equipment like spears and crossbows and such. And, as villainous as he normally is, Vader would not like slavery. If anything, a Vader forced to work with the Vandals—depending on when in the series he’s been sent to the Multiverse and where—may be more likely to plan and help coordinate a successful slave revolt in which the liberated Kharamanos repay him for his help. The fact that some mysterious, asthmatic, black-clad stranger freed the Kharamanos from Vandal enslavement while Battle Force Five couldn’t might also boost his PR while damaging that of his competitors. Depending on where Vader wants to go with this, it might help him build up a reputation ahead of time and later, an economic (and later still possible armed) base of sorts. So you are saying the Vandals are more brutal than Vader, and he has been true a lot. Well, arguably more brutal in one respect, at least. By which, I mean their gleeful use of slavery to build and maintain their technological armaments and probably their more mechanically productive infrastructure. While I’m aware that the Empire employed slavery on a far larger scale than the Vandals (and may have racked up a death toll orders of magnitude higher than that as a result), it’s not like Vader would’ve approved of that element of the regime he served. Plus, Battle Force Five is ultimately a kids’ show. Meaning that the more graphic, adult, R-rated side of the Multiverse takes place off-screen. One caveat is that hints of this have been depicted on-screen as well, though, like Battle Force Five coming across an abandoned, Red Sentient-run interrogation center full of the shells (meaning corpses) of deceased Blue Sentients. And considering how vicious Krytus and his minions are, and the implied brutality of the Sentient Civil War from while it was going on, one guess as to how the center’s prisoners wound up dead.
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Post by lordroel on Jan 29, 2020 15:36:17 GMT
So how would the Star War universe handle a being Galactus when he shows up, lets say at Coruscant, just before the start of Star Wars: Episode IV – A New Hope.
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Post by Zyobot on Jan 29, 2020 15:46:08 GMT
So how would the Star War universe handle a being Galactus when he shows up, lets say at Coruscant, just before the start of Star Wars: Episode IV – A New Hope. Here’s something from quickmeme that should succinctly answer your question: And God(s) forbid that ASB follows up by unleashing DC’s Anti-Monitor on the Star Wars universe!
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Post by lordroel on Jan 29, 2020 15:48:10 GMT
So how would the Star War universe handle a being Galactus when he shows up, lets say at Coruscant, just before the start of Star Wars: Episode IV – A New Hope. Here’s something from quickmeme that should succinctly answer your question: And God(s) forbid that ASB follows up by unleashing DC’s Anti-Monitor on the Star Wars universe! Why, could the Death Star not handle Galactus.
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Post by Zyobot on Jan 29, 2020 15:55:45 GMT
Here’s something from quickmeme that should succinctly answer your question: And God(s) forbid that ASB follows up by unleashing DC’s Anti-Monitor on the Star Wars universe! Why, could the Death Star not handle Galactus. Maybe if it gets a lucky shot while he’s too busy or oblivious to notice, which is very unlikely given his cosmic awareness. In fact, Galactus would probably devour the Death Star before it can effectively respond. Maybe if the Empire had something more akin to Starkiller Base, they could slow him down (if not totally pulverize him). But, at least in Canon, they don’t. The Death Star is probably the top superweapon in the Imperial armory, and even then, it likely won’t emerge from the bloodbath intact.
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Post by lordroel on Jan 29, 2020 15:58:30 GMT
Why, could the Death Star not handle Galactus. Maybe if it gets a lucky shot while he’s too busy or oblivious to notice, which is very unlikely given his cosmic awareness. In fact, Galactus would probably devour the Death Star before it can effectively respond. Maybe if the Empire had something more akin to Starkiller Base, they could slow him down (if not totally pulverize him). But, at least in Canon, they don’t. The Death Star is probably the top superweapon in the Imperial armory, and even then, it likely won’t emerge from the bloodbath intact. Would the energy beam of the Death Star not give energy to Galactus, which he needs to survive, ore am i wrong.
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Post by Zyobot on Jan 29, 2020 17:43:13 GMT
Maybe if it gets a lucky shot while he’s too busy or oblivious to notice, which is very unlikely given his cosmic awareness. In fact, Galactus would probably devour the Death Star before it can effectively respond. Maybe if the Empire had something more akin to Starkiller Base, they could slow him down (if not totally pulverize him). But, at least in Canon, they don’t. The Death Star is probably the top superweapon in the Imperial armory, and even then, it likely won’t emerge from the bloodbath intact. Would the energy beam of the Death Star not give energy to Galactus, which he needs to survive, ore am i wrong. Possibly? Once he receives such a boost, he'd probably devour the Death Star before its crew has time to fully overcome their shock, but not before they feel absolute terror in their final moments of life.
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