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Post by mullauna on Aug 27, 2019 3:38:45 GMT
Someone on rec.arts.drwho did a really good "Nyssa possessed by the Master instead of Tremas" back in the day.
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Post by stevep on Aug 27, 2019 10:38:51 GMT
Ah sorry. Not familiar enough with Star Wars to realise/remember precognition was a facility. That would give him some warning but how he would explain such an action in time I don't know. Also given the way the shock of the attack moblisied the US OTL and I think he might find a shock like that as a good tool to help in starting to undermine democracy in the US just as he used the Clone War to undermine the Republic in SWs. Which makes me think, would the force have enabled him to manipulate Hitler or other Nazis so that as with the Clone Wars he's got a measure of control on both sides of the conflict?
Good points to have brought up. If I recall correctly, there was something about early radar signs of a Japanese force headed towards America that got dismissed--only for it to have been completely real and resulting in Pearl Harbor getting surprise-bombed that same day. With "FDR" foreseeing the sneak attack ahead of time, I wonder if he could direct more personnel to the otherwise understaffed Aircraft Warning Information Center so that those on duty take that initial notice way more seriously and alert on-site forces that something hostile could be coming, so be ready for it. Turning the conversation to the whole of WW2 with S. Palpatine now involved, though, I don't know that he'd be able to vastly manipulate A. Hitler & Co. from that kind of distance with the Force. As far as I'm aware, much of his Machiavellian success in orchestrating the Clone Wars came about due to shrewd cunning and two-faced scheming, as he was secretly in charge of both sides of the whole war. As it applies to '40s Earth, that wouldn't be the case. Fortunately for him, however (but tragic for world peace and liberal democracy going forwards), he commands the most powerful military machine in human history with FDR as his body, so I still bet that the Axis gets crushed and the US emerges as one of the big winners of the Second World War ITTL.
IIRC an isolated radar outpost on the N coast picked up the incoming attack, but when reported, which took a little time as they didn't have a direct radio link, it was dismissed as an expected arrival of long ranged US bombers from the mainland! This is really too late for much to be done anyway but does show how unready the US forces were for such an attack, which took everybody pretty much by surprise. There is a report that an agent working for Britain in occupied Europe had somehow got some details of at least the plans for the attack and passed them on. He was amazed when the attack went ahead and caught the US totally by surprised. However how accurate that is I don't know. Got the details from some biography of him after the war so could be inflating his importance.
I suspect that he might want the attack to go ahead as OTL as it generates anger enough to get the US not only in the war but also to make a massive effort to win it, especially against Japan. Also if he's arriving only a couple of days before the attack then, even with FDR's memories he would probably be too busy sorting out where he is, who's what and what steps he needs to gain the power he wants.
Without an in to a puppet inside either Nazi or Soviet empires I wonder if he would seek to prolong the conflict in Europe so that those two wear each other down even more. Possibly less pro-Soviet propaganda so that also its markedly easier to have WWII quickly followed by a US v Soviet conflict. Thinking this as I assume his two primary aims would be a) world conquest/control and b) destroying any democratic institutions that would limit his power. As such while a militarily powerful US would be his main direct tool he would seek to undermine its government institutions so they could be replaced by direct rule by him at some future and probably not too distant stage. As such a more highly militarised US and a longer war, including at some stage conflict with the Soviet union, both to tighten his control and to remove any last opponents to his control of of the US and hence the world.
To replace especially the existing monarchies is likely to be one of his bigger tasks, definitely so if he's clearly going for the status of emperor. This could be especially bad for Japan and Britain. Might, especially if you see a greater concentration on Japan see an actual invasion of a Japan that hasn't been bombed to pieces - because its occurring in 44 say means no B29s or nukes are available. This could be very costly for the US military but help boost militarism there and could well be a horrendous slaughter for Japan with 10-20 million dead by the end possibly.  Dread to think what would happen to Britain and the other democratic states outside the US empire. 
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Post by mullauna on Sept 2, 2019 11:44:47 GMT
Someone elsewhere is writing a Mr Bean (the character)'s mind put in Boris Johnson's body. Can't wait to see what solutions Bean comes up with for Brexit.
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Post by lordroel on Sept 2, 2019 12:09:13 GMT
Someone elsewhere is writing a Mr Bean (the character)'s mind put in Boris Johnson's body. Can't wait to see what solutions Bean comes up with for Brexit. Please do not post current politics in this thread. |
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Post by Zyobot on Sept 8, 2019 23:22:04 GMT
'ROTJ Emperor Palpatine SI To TPM Chancellor Palpatine'.
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Post by lordroel on Sept 9, 2019 5:55:19 GMT
'ROTJ Emperor Palpatine SI To TPM Chancellor Palpatine'. What year of his reign would the emperor be transported to the chancellor. |
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Post by Zyobot on Sept 11, 2019 20:57:30 GMT
'ROTJ Emperor Palpatine SI To TPM Chancellor Palpatine'. What year of his reign would the emperor be transported to the chancellor. From 4 ABY to 32 BBY, respectively. |
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Post by Zyobot on Sept 14, 2019 13:39:54 GMT
‘What Would Sheldon Cooper Think Of Mathematicians And Statisticians’? I know that he’s ripped on experimental physics and engineering, but am unsure what his impressions of math folks (and their field) might be.
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Post by lordroel on Sept 14, 2019 18:19:36 GMT
What If very mountain higher than 1,000 meters was made of gold.
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Post by Zyobot on Sept 14, 2019 18:20:39 GMT
What If very mountain higher than 1,000 meters was made of gold. Interesting scenario. But, with all due respect, wouldn't it belong in the Frivolous ASB thread instead? |
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Post by lordroel on Sept 14, 2019 18:21:52 GMT
What If very mountain higher than 1,000 meters was made of gold. Interesting scenario. But, with all due respect, wouldn't it belong in the Frivolous ASB thread instead? Damm wrong thread, my mistake. |
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Post by Zyobot on Sept 15, 2019 21:02:53 GMT
Interesting scenario. But, with all due respect, wouldn't it belong in the Frivolous ASB thread instead? Damm wrong thread, my mistake. Ts' alright. I'm pretty sure I've done it before myself every now and then. Anyways, another frivolous fandom scenario I've been thinking of would be 'Darth Nihilus Vs. Weeping Angels'.
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Post by Zyobot on Sept 19, 2019 2:01:56 GMT
‘Actors Meet Their Characters’, i.e. Harrison Ford having a run-in with Han Solo (and possibly Chewbacca, too) since ASB brings him to life.
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Post by lordroel on Sept 19, 2019 6:31:54 GMT
‘Actors Meet Their Characters’, i.e. Harrison Ford having a run-in with Han Solo (and possibly Chewbacca, too) since ASB brings him to life. From what time period, when the started in the first Star Wars movie ore last. |
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Post by Zyobot on Sept 19, 2019 13:58:37 GMT
‘Actors Meet Their Characters’, i.e. Harrison Ford having a run-in with Han Solo (and possibly Chewbacca, too) since ASB brings him to life. From what time period, when the started in the first Star Wars movie ore last. Eh, how about Han & Chewie from ROTJ for nostalgia’s sake? |
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Dread to think what would happen to Britain and the other democratic states outside the US empire. 
