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Post by lordroel on Jul 7, 2019 11:33:14 GMT
Lets say Babylon 5 at the end of the Shadow War and for Deeps Space Nine at the end of the Dominion War, both some fleets, lets say no more than 30 ships at each side. Not sure about the relative technology but IF they did fight I suspect the White Stars might have the edge on the Defiants say. Although it could go either way or simply see both sides largely annihilated.  Seems there is a YouTube video called USS Defiant vs White Star | Star Trek and Babylon 5 : |
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Post by stevep on Jul 7, 2019 16:14:16 GMT
Not sure about the relative technology but IF they did fight I suspect the White Stars might have the edge on the Defiants say. Although it could go either way or simply see both sides largely annihilated. Seems there is a YouTube video called USS Defiant vs White Star | Star Trek and Babylon 5 :
Well short and did seem to be rather superficial to be honest. I had forgotten that the White-Stars didn't have any shielding capacity however.
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Post by Zyobot on Jul 9, 2019 3:25:26 GMT
'Imperium of Man Gets Death Star'. This scenario would sure as heck end badly--and enemy factions like Chaos or the Necrons would in all likelihood be even worse.
And if that prospect sounds terrifying, imagine if they got their grimdark hands on Starkiller Base instead.
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Post by lordroel on Jul 9, 2019 3:38:21 GMT
'Imperium of Man Gets Death Star'. This scenario would sure as heck end badly--and enemy factions like Chaos or the Necrons would in all likelihood be even worse. And if that prospect sounds terrifying, imagine if they got their grimdark hands on Starkiller Base instead. Why would the Imperium of Man need a Death Star, they have enough things to destroy a planet on their own. |
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Post by Zyobot on Jul 9, 2019 12:47:20 GMT
'Imperium of Man Gets Death Star'. This scenario would sure as heck end badly--and enemy factions like Chaos or the Necrons would in all likelihood be even worse. And if that prospect sounds terrifying, imagine if they got their grimdark hands on Starkiller Base instead. Why would the Imperium of Man need a Death Star, they have enough things to destroy a planet on their own. Well, wipe out all life and/or the surface of planets anyway. And two-stage cyclonic torpedoes are, you know, two-state means of world-killing. Then again, the Death Star's superlaser takes a while to recharge and is attached to a cumbersome, moon-sized battle station. So, I suppose you have a point there. Maybe the Imperium would have more reason to receive Starkiller Base instead? |
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Post by lordroel on Jul 9, 2019 13:03:59 GMT
Why would the Imperium of Man need a Death Star, they have enough things to destroy a planet on their own. Well, wipe out all life and/or the surface of planets anyway. And two-stage cyclonic torpedoes are, you know, two-state means of world-killing. Then again, the Death Star's superlaser takes a while to recharge and is attached to a cumbersome, moon-sized battle station. So, I suppose you have a point there. Maybe the Imperium would have more reason to receive Starkiller Base instead? What about that massive First Order ship from the Last Jedi. |
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Post by Zyobot on Jul 9, 2019 13:17:28 GMT
Well, wipe out all life and/or the surface of planets anyway. And two-stage cyclonic torpedoes are, you know, two-state means of world-killing. Then again, the Death Star's superlaser takes a while to recharge and is attached to a cumbersome, moon-sized battle station. So, I suppose you have a point there. Maybe the Imperium would have more reason to receive Starkiller Base instead? What about that massive First Order ship from the Last Jedi. You're referring to Snoke's flagship, The Supremacy. I don't what kind of firepower it has relative to other 40K vessels, but that's a big-ass ship the Imperium has found. It's hyperdrive might also be of limited reverse-engineering use, since they still need established coordinates for wherever they travel to with it. That is, if the Adeptus Mechanicus doesn't lash out in its anti-human technological prejudices. |
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Post by lordroel on Jul 9, 2019 13:47:00 GMT
What about that massive First Order ship from the Last Jedi. You're referring to Snoke's flagship, The Supremacy. I don't what kind of firepower it has relative to other 40K vessels, but that's a big-ass ship the Imperium has found. It's hyperdrive might also be of limited reverse-engineering use, since they still need established coordinates for wherever they travel to with it. That is, if the Adeptus Mechanicus doesn't lash out in its anti-human technological prejudices. Yep, that is the one, checking Wookeeipdia it is a Mega-class Star Dreadnought called the Supremacy. |
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Post by Zyobot on Jul 10, 2019 3:07:31 GMT
You're referring to Snoke's flagship, The Supremacy. I don't what kind of firepower it has relative to other 40K vessels, but that's a big-ass ship the Imperium has found. It's hyperdrive might also be of limited reverse-engineering use, since they still need established coordinates for wherever they travel to with it. That is, if the Adeptus Mechanicus doesn't lash out in its anti-human technological prejudices. Yep, that is the one, checking Wookeeipdia it is a Mega-class Star Dreadnought called the Supremacy. I'd suggest ISOTing the whole First Order to somewhere in the 40K setting, but the likelihood that the main factions would overwhelm them once they're discovered makes it too frivolous to be a standalone thread. Hence, why it belongs here more than anywhere else on the forum. To stand any sort of chance, they'd need Starkiller Base to be sent along with them. And even then, they'd still need established coordinates to target in order for it to do what it does best. That, and a reliable supply of stars to consume along the way. But to swap the First Order with its predecessor, the Galactic Empire, would be a much different story. |
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Post by lordroel on Jul 10, 2019 3:08:56 GMT
Yep, that is the one, checking Wookeeipdia it is a Mega-class Star Dreadnought called the Supremacy. I'd suggest ISOTing the whole First Order to somewhere in the 40K setting, but the likelihood that the main factions would overwhelm them once they're discovered makes it too frivolous to be a standalone thread. Hence, why it belongs here more than anywhere else on the forum. To stand any sort of chance, they'd need Starkiller Base to be sent along with them. And even then, they'd still need established coordinates to target in order for it to do what it does best. That, and a reliable supply of stars to consume along the way. But to swap the First Order with its predecessor, the Galactic Empire, would be a much different story. I think sending the Supremacy to the 40K verse is enough. |
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Post by Zyobot on Jul 10, 2019 3:10:59 GMT
I'd suggest ISOTing the whole First Order to somewhere in the 40K setting, but the likelihood that the main factions would overwhelm them once they're discovered makes it too frivolous to be a standalone thread. Hence, why it belongs here more than anywhere else on the forum. To stand any sort of chance, they'd need Starkiller Base to be sent along with them. And even then, they'd still need established coordinates to target in order for it to do what it does best. That, and a reliable supply of stars to consume along the way. But to swap the First Order with its predecessor, the Galactic Empire, would be a much different story. I think sending the Supremacy to the 40K verse is enough. What makes The Supremacy alone sufficient, if I may ask? |
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Post by lordroel on Jul 10, 2019 3:13:46 GMT
I think sending the Supremacy to the 40K verse is enough. What makes The Supremacy alone sufficient, if I may ask? It is as that YouTube article has said, the base of operations for the First Order. |
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Post by Zyobot on Jul 10, 2019 3:32:39 GMT
What makes The Supremacy alone sufficient, if I may ask? It is as that YouTube article has said, the base of operations for the First Order. What role would it being their base of operations play in making it enough into itself, though? Are you thinking that with their HQ having gone missing, the First Order eventually traces The Supremacy back to a horribly grimdark galaxy and ends up crossing blades with the Milky Way denizens anyways? Or am I extrapolating too much? |
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Post by lordroel on Jul 10, 2019 3:49:40 GMT
It is as that YouTube article has said, the base of operations for the First Order. What role would it being their base of operations play in making it enough into itself, though? Are you thinking that with their HQ having gone missing, the First Order eventually traces The Supremacy back to a horribly grimdark galaxy and ends up crossing blades with the Milky Way denizens anyways? Or am I extrapolating too much? Was thinking the Supremacy and everybody on board. |
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Post by Zyobot on Jul 10, 2019 15:20:50 GMT
What role would it being their base of operations play in making it enough into itself, though? Are you thinking that with their HQ having gone missing, the First Order eventually traces The Supremacy back to a horribly grimdark galaxy and ends up crossing blades with the Milky Way denizens anyways? Or am I extrapolating too much? Was thinking the Supremacy and everybody on board. Ah. Well in that case, I (almost) feel sorry for the more than 2 million First Order members who are now trapped in the 40K universe and bound to be hunted down and destroyed sooner or later. Almost. |
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