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Post by Zyobot on Jul 5, 2019 20:26:42 GMT
In terms of traumatic and bloody experiences, yes. At the same time, he's achieved more in his lifetime and his accomplishments (i.e. the New Jedi Order) didn't crumble into dust, so Legends Luke is likely more content and satisfied with his life overall. On the other hand, Canon Luke--while having endured much less strife and terror since the Original Trilogy--is haunted by the destruction of his nascent Jedi Order and his beloved nephew falling to the Dark Side. And now, he lives as a grouchy island-dwelling hermit on Ahch-To. So emotionally and psychologically speaking, Canon Luke strikes me as darker. But in regards to the horrors endured, Legends Luke probably takes the cake easily. Legend luke had a wife and child if i am right, here he has lost them, that will effect him a lot i guess. True. Even though he'd be aware that he may never see them again, at least Legends Luke hasn't had to witness his whole life's work crumble before his very eyes like Canon Luke has. Plus, his longer list of horrible and traumatic experiences endured might make him more inured to dark events such as that. In other words, he may not be as phased by them (though Canon Luke certainly doesn't lack in this arena). |
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Post by Zyobot on Jul 6, 2019 13:50:04 GMT
'WI Darth Vader Could Use Force Lightning?'. IOTL, he couldn't since it'd screw up his cybernetics to the point of them seizing up at best, or disabling them to the point of death at worst.
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Post by lordroel on Jul 6, 2019 13:52:31 GMT
'WI Darth Vader Could Use Force Lightning?'. IOTL, he couldn't since it'd screw up his cybernetics to the point of them seizing up at best, or disabling them to the point of death at worst. His arms not cut of by a light saber might help. |
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Post by Captain Jordan on Jul 6, 2019 17:20:45 GMT
What if there is a three year Writer's Guild of America and Writer's Guild of Great Britain strike in 1984 to 1987? What happened to our favorite movies and television shows during that time if that happened?
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Post by Zyobot on Jul 6, 2019 18:22:49 GMT
'WI Darth Vader Could Use Force Lightning?'. IOTL, he couldn't since it'd screw up his cybernetics to the point of them seizing up at best, or disabling them to the point of death at worst. His arms not cut of by a light saber might help. ...Well, yeah. Apart from that, I wonder if he could've performed Sith alchemy on his armor to the extent that it'd allow him to use Force Lightning even as a cyborg. Yes, I'm aware that lack of organic tissue in the arms means no lightning. |
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Post by lordroel on Jul 6, 2019 18:37:14 GMT
His arms not cut of by a light saber might help. ...Well, yeah. Apart from that, I wonder if he could've performed Sith alchemy on his armor to the extent that it'd allow him to use Force Lightning even as a cyborg. Yes, I'm aware that lack of organic tissue in the arms means no lightning. Could he not grow some arms, i mean, they must in the Star Warsverse be able to do that. |
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Post by Captain Jordan on Jul 6, 2019 21:42:20 GMT
What if in mid 1995, all science fiction lovers and fans of the world had became groups of terrorists and violent street gangs?
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Post by lordroel on Jul 6, 2019 21:45:37 GMT
What if in mid 1995, all science fiction lovers and fans of the world had became a gang of terrorists? What if i going to give you a advice Captain Jordan , the Frivolous Fandom Thread is for Frivolous ideas, that you do not post in a own thread, but not something like these things you are now posting. |
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Post by Zyobot on Jul 6, 2019 21:58:39 GMT
...Well, yeah. Apart from that, I wonder if he could've performed Sith alchemy on his armor to the extent that it'd allow him to use Force Lightning even as a cyborg. Yes, I'm aware that lack of organic tissue in the arms means no lightning. Could he not grow some arms, i mean, they must in the Star Warsverse be able to do that. Maybe? As far as I know, cloning Force-sensitives is difficult and in experimental stages at best (I presume this is the case for sufficiently midichlorian-rich tissue, too). Even if Vader could grow functional, organic replacement arms and fasten them to his stumps properly, he can't guarantee that they'll boast the sheer midichlorian count that he originally had before his immolation on Mustafar. |
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Post by lordroel on Jul 6, 2019 22:01:35 GMT
Could he not grow some arms, i mean, they must in the Star Warsverse be able to do that. Maybe? As far as I know, cloning Force-sensitives is difficult and in experimental stages at best (I presume this is the case for sufficiently midichlorian-rich tissue, too). Even if Vader could grow functional, organic replacement arms and fasten them to his stumps properly, he can't guarantee that they'll boast the sheer midichlorian count that he originally had before his immolation on Mustafar. So he has few options then to be able to Force Lightning. |
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Post by Zyobot on Jul 6, 2019 22:05:17 GMT
Maybe? As far as I know, cloning Force-sensitives is difficult and in experimental stages at best (I presume this is the case for sufficiently midichlorian-rich tissue, too). Even if Vader could grow functional, organic replacement arms and fasten them to his stumps properly, he can't guarantee that they'll boast the sheer midichlorian count that he originally had before his immolation on Mustafar. So he has few options then to be able to Force Lightning. As far as I can tell, yes. For the sake of the Galaxy he suppresses with an iron fist, however, it's likely for the best that he lacks said lightning powers. |
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Post by lordroel on Jul 7, 2019 7:28:09 GMT
So he has few options then to be able to Force Lightning. As far as I can tell, yes. For the sake of the Galaxy he suppresses with an iron fist, however, it's likely for the best that he lacks said lightning powers. Think that is the best. So what if Babylon 5 versus Deeps Space Nine, lets say both are dropped in a remote part of the Galaxy, and both can only return to their original universe if the other is destroyed, who would win. |
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Post by stevep on Jul 7, 2019 11:10:28 GMT
As far as I can tell, yes. For the sake of the Galaxy he suppresses with an iron fist, however, it's likely for the best that he lacks said lightning powers. Think that is the best. So what if Babylon 5 versus Deeps Space Nine, lets say both are dropped in a remote part of the Galaxy, and both can only return to their original universe if the other is destroyed, who would win.
Do you just mean the bases or parts of the accompanying fleets that supported each? Plus it would depend on when in each TL it occurred as the growing crisis in Bab5 and the Dominion war meant that forces and defences IIRC were steadily increased as things went on.
Also I wonder if both groups, faced with such an ultimatum would refuse such a demand and seek to work together in their new homes? Suspect neither Sinclair/Sheridan nor Sisko would be that happy with such a demand that they fight until one or the other is dead.
There is also the possibility of the clash of ASBs. The First Ones from Bab5 and the Time Patrol [or whatever their called in ST] would be unhappy with such interference and Q might also be upset at some of his favourite toys being 'stolen' while there are also the mysterious ancients who live in the wormhole and whom the Bajorans worship.
Looking briefly at the stats on Wiki Bab5 is a lot larger than DS9 but is designed as a diplomatic centre while DSP is a military base. The latter especially is heavily upgraded given the threats from the Cardassians and the Dominion and both have mobile units based there. More so probably DS9 as its position on the wormhole becomes strategically important although also with Bab5 as the threat from the dictatorship on Earth and then the war between the ancients and the shadows grows in prominence.
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Post by lordroel on Jul 7, 2019 11:16:16 GMT
Think that is the best. So what if Babylon 5 versus Deeps Space Nine, lets say both are dropped in a remote part of the Galaxy, and both can only return to their original universe if the other is destroyed, who would win. Do you just mean the bases or parts of the accompanying fleets that supported each? Plus it would depend on when in each TL it occurred as the growing crisis in Bab5 and the Dominion war meant that forces and defences IIRC were steadily increased as things went on. Also I wonder if both groups, faced with such an ultimatum would refuse such a demand and seek to work together in their new homes? Suspect neither Sinclair/Sheridan nor Sisko would be that happy with such a demand that they fight until one or the other is dead. There is also the possibility of the clash of ASBs. The First Ones from Bab5 and the Time Patrol [or whatever their called in ST] would be unhappy with such interference and Q might also be upset at some of his favourite toys being 'stolen' while there are also the mysterious ancients who live in the wormhole and whom the Bajorans worship. Looking briefly at the stats on Wiki Bab5 is a lot larger than DS9 but is designed as a diplomatic centre while DSP is a military base. The latter especially is heavily upgraded given the threats from the Cardassians and the Dominion and both have mobile units based there. More so probably DS9 as its position on the wormhole becomes strategically important although also with Bab5 as the threat from the dictatorship on Earth and then the war between the ancients and the shadows grows in prominence.
Lets say Babylon 5 at the end of the Shadow War and for Deeps Space Nine at the end of the Dominion War, both some fleets, lets say no more than 30 ships at each side. |
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Post by stevep on Jul 7, 2019 11:28:52 GMT
Do you just mean the bases or parts of the accompanying fleets that supported each? Plus it would depend on when in each TL it occurred as the growing crisis in Bab5 and the Dominion war meant that forces and defences IIRC were steadily increased as things went on. Also I wonder if both groups, faced with such an ultimatum would refuse such a demand and seek to work together in their new homes? Suspect neither Sinclair/Sheridan nor Sisko would be that happy with such a demand that they fight until one or the other is dead. There is also the possibility of the clash of ASBs. The First Ones from Bab5 and the Time Patrol [or whatever their called in ST] would be unhappy with such interference and Q might also be upset at some of his favourite toys being 'stolen' while there are also the mysterious ancients who live in the wormhole and whom the Bajorans worship. Looking briefly at the stats on Wiki Bab5 is a lot larger than DS9 but is designed as a diplomatic centre while DSP is a military base. The latter especially is heavily upgraded given the threats from the Cardassians and the Dominion and both have mobile units based there. More so probably DS9 as its position on the wormhole becomes strategically important although also with Bab5 as the threat from the dictatorship on Earth and then the war between the ancients and the shadows grows in prominence.
Lets say Babylon 5 at the end of the Shadow War and for Deeps Space Nine at the end of the Dominion War, both some fleets, lets say no more than 30 ships at each side.
Not sure about the relative technology but IF they did fight I suspect the White Stars might have the edge on the Defiants say. Although it could go either way or simply see both sides largely annihilated.  |
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