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Post by lordroel on Jan 21, 2019 17:08:50 GMT
Map: If We Enter A World War - And Lost (Hypothetical invasion America) in 1937
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Post by TheRomanSlayer on Jan 26, 2019 5:10:41 GMT
Who is getting which lands in this scenario?
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Post by lordroel on Jan 26, 2019 9:07:56 GMT
Who is getting which lands in this scenario? Well if we go by color we can assume that Alaska, Hawaii and California will become Japanese. |
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Post by stevep on Jan 27, 2019 12:20:13 GMT
The text is a bit too small for my old eyes but would the red suggest British 'liberation' [i.e. occupation] of the east coast? In which case possibly green is now part of a Greater Canada and presumably Mexico regains some of its old lands in the south? If so blue is a buffer zone. There might also be a division of the rest of the US as the states east of but including Louisiana up to Minnosota seem a slightly darker grey, compared to those to the west. Although this is slight on the main map and does't seem to appear on the smaller one. Seems bloody insane assumptions given the political differences between fascist Japan and Britain by 1937, let alone the difficulty they would have in conquering the US but given the colour and the apparent strength of other powers at the time I can't see anything else that fits.
If I read correctly the New York city region is left as a free port for the rump US under international control? Which does seem strange if your assuming such a brutal carve up and especially since they still have the Mississippi valley, which would be more practical for the majority of the rump US.
Guessing this is junk propaganda by extreme isolationists rather than extreme interventionist?
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Post by lordroel on Jan 27, 2019 12:32:47 GMT
The text is a bit too small for my old eyes but would the red suggest British 'liberation' [i.e. occupation] of the east coast? In which case possibly green is now part of a Greater Canada and presumably Mexico regains some of its old lands in the south? If so blue is a buffer zone. There might also be a division of the rest of the US as the states east of but including Louisiana up to Minnosota seem a slightly darker grey, compared to those to the west. Although this is slight on the main map and does't seem to appear on the smaller one. Seems bloody insane assumptions given the political differences between fascist Japan and Britain by 1937, let alone the difficulty they would have in conquering the US but given the colour and the apparent strength of other powers at the time I can't see anything else that fits. If I read correctly the New York city region is left as a free port for the rump US under international control? Which does seem strange if your assuming such a brutal carve up and especially since they still have the Mississippi valley, which would be more practical for the majority of the rump US. Guessing this is junk propaganda by extreme isolationists rather than extreme interventionist?
A sorry, here is a link to a bigger one, i hope it helps.  |
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Post by stevep on Jan 27, 2019 13:20:58 GMT
The text is a bit too small for my old eyes but would the red suggest British 'liberation' [i.e. occupation] of the east coast? In which case possibly green is now part of a Greater Canada and presumably Mexico regains some of its old lands in the south? If so blue is a buffer zone. There might also be a division of the rest of the US as the states east of but including Louisiana up to Minnosota seem a slightly darker grey, compared to those to the west. Although this is slight on the main map and does't seem to appear on the smaller one. Seems bloody insane assumptions given the political differences between fascist Japan and Britain by 1937, let alone the difficulty they would have in conquering the US but given the colour and the apparent strength of other powers at the time I can't see anything else that fits. If I read correctly the New York city region is left as a free port for the rump US under international control? Which does seem strange if your assuming such a brutal carve up and especially since they still have the Mississippi valley, which would be more practical for the majority of the rump US. Guessing this is junk propaganda by extreme isolationists rather than extreme interventionist?
A sorry, here is a link to a bigger one, i hope it helps.
Thanks for that. Says something about my eyes nowadays that I was still struggling a bit  but can read it now.
It leaves the actual identity of the enemy alliance very vague, presumably to avoid fall-out from offended nations but the yellow has really got to be Japan and I suspect red, for historical reasons, is hinting at Britain. Also some of the comments are rather odd, such as for the blue area on the map.
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Post by lordroel on Jan 27, 2019 13:46:03 GMT
A sorry, here is a link to a bigger one, i hope it helps. Thanks for that. Says something about my eyes nowadays that I was still struggling a bit but can read it now. It leaves the actual identity of the enemy alliance very vague, presumably to avoid fall-out from offended nations but the yellow has really got to be Japan and I suspect red, for historical reasons, is hinting at Britain. Also some of the comments are rather odd, such as for the blue area on the map.
The text of the Blue area is: The "CORRIDOR of DEATH" where America bounty of Steel, Coal and Cotton could be diverted to channels of destruction. Munitions plants dwarfing the combined output of all Europe would spring up in this "buffer state," cut out of the heart of a continent that was Poland.
The text of the Red area is: The rich East Coast would be stripped from the U.S. and divided among foreign powers.The text of the New York area is: New York City, to rich a prize to be awarded to a single conqueror, would be a international free port.The text of the Green area is: The Empire State corridor conceded to the U.S. as a buffer between two victorious allies who may be enemies in the next conflict.The text of what remain of the United States area is: All that is left of the United States of america - reduced by pressure of embattled conquerors on all sides. " we could still till our soil, man our industries and conduct our business affairs, we could ship products abroad- under supervision and control of other powers.
The text of the Yellow area is: Our Rich Pacific Coast. With a wealth of minerals, oil, lumber and its most natural advantages would fall east pray to the allied conquerors. This Empire could be defended against attack from the East.The text of the Brown area is:
As a reward to one of the successful allies, this section, rich in farming and mineral resources would be ceded.
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but can read it now.