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Post by lordroel on Jan 16, 2022 8:05:09 GMT
What about a 'Soviet Pol Pot' thread? Chronologically, it'd belong in the After 1900 thread. But plausibility-wise, I'm not sure if it's ASB, especially in light of all the crazy shit that happened IOTL that'd have otherwise been easily dismissed as impossible. Him being a supported to the Soviet Union, i think with a POD it can go in the After-1900 board.
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Post by Zyobot on Jan 16, 2022 9:33:37 GMT
What about a 'Soviet Pol Pot' thread? Chronologically, it'd belong in the After 1900 thread. But plausibility-wise, I'm not sure if it's ASB, especially in light of all the crazy shit that happened IOTL that'd have otherwise been easily dismissed as impossible. Him being a supported to the Soviet Union, i think with a POD it can go in the After-1900 board. I’m not talking about deportation. I meant that a Soviet leader at least as murderous and willfully self-destructive as Pol Pot takes the helm and runs the USSR into the ground, like the Khmer Rouge did with Cambodia. Best candidate I can think of is a totally mad Joe Stalin, and even then, he still didn’t wipe out a quarter of his people in four years.
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Post by lordroel on Jan 16, 2022 9:36:41 GMT
Him being a supported to the Soviet Union, i think with a POD it can go in the After-1900 board. I’m not talking about deportation. I meant that a Soviet leader at least as murderous and willfully self-destructive as Pol Pot takes the helm and runs the USSR into the ground, like the Khmer Rouge did with Cambodia. Best candidate I can think of is a totally mad Joe Stalin, and even then, he still didn’t wipe out a quarter of his people in four years. Well that would be ASB board if he is not disposed by the Soviet Military before he manged to do it.
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Post by Zyobot on Jan 16, 2022 9:44:35 GMT
I’m not talking about deportation. I meant that a Soviet leader at least as murderous and willfully self-destructive as Pol Pot takes the helm and runs the USSR into the ground, like the Khmer Rouge did with Cambodia. Best candidate I can think of is a totally mad Joe Stalin, and even then, he still didn’t wipe out a quarter of his people in four years. Well that would be ASB board if he is not disposed by the Soviet Military before he manged to do it. It doesn’t necessarily have to be Stalin, though. That, and I’d take a step back and look at how many OTL events are probably ASB themselves, yet still happened. Case in point: Nazi Germany, and in a TL where they were butterflied, most would’ve scoffed at a Reich so horrific, it made Stalin’s Russia look like the lesser evil. My point being, that there are times when something that seems too crazy to happen actually can and does happen, so I don’t think we should rule out a Soviet equivalent to Pol Pot arising as impossible.
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Post by lordroel on Jan 16, 2022 9:46:12 GMT
Well that would be ASB board if he is not disposed by the Soviet Military before he manged to do it. It doesn’t necessarily have to be Stalin, though. That, and I’d take a step back and look at how many OTL events are probably ASB themselves, yet still happened. Case in point: Nazi Germany, and in a TL where they were butterflied, most would’ve scoffed at a Reich so horrific, it made Stalin’s Russia look like the lesser evil. My point being, that there are times when something that seems too crazy to happen actually can and does happen, so I don’t think we should rule out a Soviet equivalent to Pol Pot arising as impossible. Well sometimes evens in OTL in the future look like ASB.
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Post by Zyobot on Jan 16, 2022 9:48:30 GMT
It doesn’t necessarily have to be Stalin, though. That, and I’d take a step back and look at how many OTL events are probably ASB themselves, yet still happened. Case in point: Nazi Germany, and in a TL where they were butterflied, most would’ve scoffed at a Reich so horrific, it made Stalin’s Russia look like the lesser evil. My point being, that there are times when something that seems too crazy to happen actually can and does happen, so I don’t think we should rule out a Soviet equivalent to Pol Pot arising as impossible. Well sometimes evens in OTL in the future look like ASB. Exactly! I will say, though, that I don’t really mind where my thread idea goes much. (I would, however, like to a serious in-thread discussion about whether a Soviet Pol Pot is actually possible or not, regardless of where it’s placed.)
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Post by lordroel on Jan 16, 2022 9:51:40 GMT
Well sometimes evens in OTL in the future look like ASB. Exactly! I will say, though, that I don’t really mind where my thread idea goes much. (I would, however, like to a serious in-thread discussion about whether a Soviet Pol Pot is actually possible or not, regardless of where it’s placed.) Well if you have a POD you can dial up Stalin to the level of Pol Pot, then it could go to After-1900.
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Post by Zyobot on Jan 16, 2022 9:53:55 GMT
Exactly! I will say, though, that I don’t really mind where my thread idea goes much. (I would, however, like to a serious in-thread discussion about whether a Soviet Pol Pot is actually possible or not, regardless of where it’s placed.) Well if you have a POD you can dial up Stalin to the level of Pol Pot, then it could go to After-1900. Thanks. Hopefully, we’ll be able to flesh out PoD ideas and prognosticate accordingly.
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Post by Zyobot on Jan 19, 2022 21:08:35 GMT
How about a 'Nasty Future War Ideas' thread? Because, given both technological advances and the geopolitical "trajectory" we're on, I fear that World War II won't be the last in a line of earth-shattering conflicts where industrial, ideologically motivated carnage reaches new heights of cruelty and devastation.
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Post by lordroel on Jan 20, 2022 3:46:34 GMT
How about a 'Nasty Future War Ideas' thread? Because, given both technological advances and the geopolitical "trajectory" we're on, I fear that World War II won't be the last in a line of earth-shattering conflicts where industrial, ideologically motivated carnage reaches new heights of cruelty and devastation. Future History & Shared Worlds would be the place to put it in, as long as it follows the 1 year rule.
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Post by Zyobot on Jan 20, 2022 3:50:05 GMT
How about a 'Nasty Future War Ideas' thread? Because, given both technological advances and the geopolitical "trajectory" we're on, I fear that World War II won't be the last in a line of earth-shattering conflicts where industrial, ideologically motivated carnage reaches new heights of cruelty and devastation. Future History & Shared Worlds would be the place to put it in, as long as it follows the 1 year rule. Understood. Thanks for responding.
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Post by Zyobot on Jan 24, 2022 22:20:33 GMT
How about an 'ATL Catastrophic Flashpoints' thread?
Which is to say, potential confrontations or incidents that could've triggered massive (or even apocalyptic) wars, but ultimately didn't?
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Post by lordroel on Jan 25, 2022 3:48:52 GMT
How about an 'ATL Catastrophic Flashpoints' thread? Which is to say, potential confrontations or incidents that could've triggered massive (or even apocalyptic) wars, but ultimately didn't? Think After-1900 would be the place to put it in, if the wars happen after 1900.
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Post by Zyobot on Jan 25, 2022 23:56:38 GMT
How about an 'ATL Catastrophic Flashpoints' thread? Which is to say, potential confrontations or incidents that could've triggered massive (or even apocalyptic) wars, but ultimately didn't? Think After-1900 would be the place to put it in, if the wars happen after 1900. Yeah, I don’t see an apocalyptic war happening without post-1900 technology and industrial capacity at play, either. On another note, I assume a ‘2020s Predictions’ thread is best placed in Politics and Current Affairs?
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Post by lordroel on Jan 26, 2022 3:45:15 GMT
On another note, I assume a ‘2020s Predictions’ thread is best placed in Politics and Current Affairs? That would be corecht.
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