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Post by lordroel on Oct 12, 2018 19:06:38 GMT
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Post by James G on Oct 12, 2018 19:33:19 GMT
That is rather surprising indeed.
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Post by lordroel on Oct 12, 2018 19:48:17 GMT
That is rather surprising indeed. And a fascinating thing to read. |
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Post by stevep on Oct 13, 2018 12:19:15 GMT
Very interesting and raises a lot of questions. Including was it authorised politically or a 'rogue' action by the military, because as it says assassination of political leaders, especially monarchs was definitely frowned upon.
Also the point that it might have made a martyr of the Kaiser and the impact that could have had on the post war period. You might have seen a continuation of the monarchy, which might have been more resilient to extreme figures like Hitler. Although this might have made a revanchist Germany potentially more dangerous, although probably less likely to make an alliance with the Soviets.
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Post by lordroel on Oct 13, 2018 19:21:59 GMT
Very interesting and raises a lot of questions. Including was it authorised politically or a 'rogue' action by the military, because as it says assassination of political leaders, especially monarchs was definitely frowned upon. Also the point that it might have made a martyr of the Kaiser and the impact that could have had on the post war period. You might have seen a continuation of the monarchy, which might have been more resilient to extreme figures like Hitler. Although this might have made a revanchist Germany potentially more dangerous, although probably less likely to make an alliance with the Soviets.
Should it not be the Royal Flying Corps, the RAF was only establish in 1918, ore am i nitpicking. |
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Post by stevep on Oct 13, 2018 20:29:37 GMT
Very interesting and raises a lot of questions. Including was it authorised politically or a 'rogue' action by the military, because as it says assassination of political leaders, especially monarchs was definitely frowned upon. Also the point that it might have made a martyr of the Kaiser and the impact that could have had on the post war period. You might have seen a continuation of the monarchy, which might have been more resilient to extreme figures like Hitler. Although this might have made a revanchist Germany potentially more dangerous, although probably less likely to make an alliance with the Soviets.
Should it not be the Royal Flying Corps, the RAF was only establish in 1918, ore am i nitpicking.
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The date of the attack was in late 1918, only a month or two before the war ended while the RAF was formed a few months earlier in on 1st April 1918, which some people have always found rather ironic. 
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Post by lordroel on Oct 13, 2018 20:31:51 GMT
Should it not be the Royal Flying Corps, the RAF was only establish in 1918, ore am i nitpicking. Lordroel The date of the attack was in late 1918, only a month or two before the war ended while the RAF was formed a few months earlier in on 1st April 1918, which some people have always found rather ironic. Steve
A my fault. But looking at the article the attack did bot damage the chateau, only some cars around it, so the Kaiser might have survived it if he was in it. |
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Post by stevep on Oct 13, 2018 20:35:48 GMT
Lordroel The date of the attack was in late 1918, only a month or two before the war ended while the RAF was formed a few months earlier in on 1st April 1918, which some people have always found rather ironic. Steve
A my fault. But looking at the article the attack did bot damage the chateau, only some cars around it, so the Kaiser might have survived it if he was in it.
By the sound of it the best bet might have been if he had been on his train, which was also attacked, Or that the RAF didn't attack in a single line so that later a/c had the target obscured by the smoke from the early bombs!
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Post by lordroel on Oct 13, 2018 20:41:36 GMT
A my fault. But looking at the article the attack did bot damage the chateau, only some cars around it, so the Kaiser might have survived it if he was in it. By the sound of it the best bet might have been if he had been on his train, which was also attacked, Or that the RAF didn't attack in a single line so that later a/c had the target obscured by the smoke from the early bombs!
Even if they did managed to kill the Kaiser, i doubt it would change much in the outcome of the war. |
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Post by stevep on Oct 14, 2018 1:14:23 GMT
By the sound of it the best bet might have been if he had been on his train, which was also attacked, Or that the RAF didn't attack in a single line so that later a/c had the target obscured by the smoke from the early bombs!
Even if they did managed to kill the Kaiser, i doubt it would change much in the outcome of the war.
Probably not in the war as he was pretty much a non-entity by then although it might prompt a small bout of anger and slightly longer resistance. Might possibly have some influence post-war if it meant that with the monarchy was less discredited.
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Post by mullauna on Oct 14, 2018 14:20:38 GMT
Wilhelm II as martyr... i can see the monarchy surviving, though only if the Crown Prince is skipped over.
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