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Post by Zyobot on Aug 6, 2018 19:16:49 GMT
In the 21st Century, capitalism is the form that the global economy takes. From multi-billionaires and international corporations, to ubiquitous entrepreneurship and innovative disruption, the free market has become fundamental to the workings of our world, and consumerism to the lives of millions.
But just how far can free enterprise go? What's the most laissez-faire society that can possibly exist, and perhaps go much further than that?
Your challenge is to create the most neoliberal capitalistic civilization possible--one that extols rampant free trade, maximal economic freedom, and minimal (even nonexistent) government control. The latter means that anarcho-capitalist societies are also welcome.
Thank you in advance, Zyobot
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Post by kyng on Aug 6, 2018 19:33:20 GMT
Perhaps the most plausible way to bring about something like this is by implementing 'shock therapy' in a post-communist (or other post-dictatorial) state. It's unlikely that people would vote for this system in a democracy, because it doesn't reflect human nature: most of us are hierarchical, and want a government that imposes at least some regulations.
In any case, I don't see anything like this lasting for very long. You'll get mega-corporations emerging within a few years - and then, they'll just get their preferred politicians into power (who will just implement crony regulations to help the corporations who got them there in the first place).
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Post by Zyobot on Aug 6, 2018 20:27:11 GMT
Perhaps the most plausible way to bring about something like this is by implementing 'shock therapy' in a post-communist (or other post-dictatorial) state. It's unlikely that people would vote for this system in a democracy, because it doesn't reflect human nature: most of us are hierarchical, and want a government that imposes at least some regulations. In any case, I don't see anything like this lasting for very long. You'll get mega-corporations emerging within a few years - and then, they'll just get their preferred politicians into power (who will just implement crony regulations to help the corporations who got them there in the first place). I meant something more along the lines of a laissez-faire society, not one where government intervenes on behalf of its lobbyists. Some examples of what I've seen include a surviving British Empire, an industrialized China that never falls to communism, etcetera.
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Post by infinity on Aug 9, 2018 17:23:50 GMT
STEM capitalists are the key. They are the modern day free masons. They are the creators.
STEM capitalism would eliminate parasitic investments. Everyone who is working on a potentially revolutionary project would have the much needed capital to carry it out.
More computer programming is part of the key to more successful capitalism. Greater access to scientific labs is the other part.
Scientific equipment can be expensive. STEM capitalists would see the value in allocating capital to such endeavors.
No one company would be worth anything near $1 trillion. STEM capitalists would not be so wasteful. Wealth hoarding wouldn't exist.
No company needs even half a trillion $. Such wealth is parasitic. Apple nor any other company needs that much capital.
In regards to Apple, the real innovators are chip manufacturers and third party software engineers. Yet, money invested in Apple doesn't go to them. Therefore, Apple is a parasitic investment.
The story is similar for other big tech companies such Amazon, Microsoft, Google, and Facebook. Any money going to those behemoths is not going to STEM individuals who can give society a greater bang for their buck.
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Post by lordroel on Aug 9, 2018 17:30:06 GMT
STEM capitalists are the key. They are the modern day free masons. They are the creators. STEM capitalism would eliminate parasitic investments. Everyone who is working on a potentially revolutionary project would have the much needed capital to carry it out. More computer programming is part of the key to more successful capitalism. Greater access to scientific labs is the other part. Scientific equipment can be expensive. STEM capitalists would see the value in allocating capital to such endeavors. No one company would be worth anything near $1 trillion. STEM capitalists would not be so wasteful. Wealth hoarding wouldn't exist. No company needs even half a trillion $. Such wealth is parasitic. Apple nor any other company needs that much capital. In regards to Apple, the real innovators are chip manufacturers and third party software engineers. Yet, money invested in Apple doesn't go to them. Therefore, Apple is a parasitic investment. The story is similar for other big tech companies such Amazon, Microsoft, Google, and Facebook. Any money going to those behemoths is not going to STEM individuals who can give society a greater bang for their buck. I do not think this is anything related to this thread.
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Post by infinity on Aug 10, 2018 0:12:44 GMT
STEM capitalists are the key. They are the modern day free masons. They are the creators. STEM capitalism would eliminate parasitic investments. Everyone who is working on a potentially revolutionary project would have the much needed capital to carry it out. More computer programming is part of the key to more successful capitalism. Greater access to scientific labs is the other part. Scientific equipment can be expensive. STEM capitalists would see the value in allocating capital to such endeavors. No one company would be worth anything near $1 trillion. STEM capitalists would not be so wasteful. Wealth hoarding wouldn't exist. No company needs even half a trillion $. Such wealth is parasitic. Apple nor any other company needs that much capital. In regards to Apple, the real innovators are chip manufacturers and third party software engineers. Yet, money invested in Apple doesn't go to them. Therefore, Apple is a parasitic investment. The story is similar for other big tech companies such Amazon, Microsoft, Google, and Facebook. Any money going to those behemoths is not going to STEM individuals who can give society a greater bang for their buck. I do not think this is anything related to this thread. I was explaining the version of capitalism that allows a laissez-faire system to go as far as possible. Science is what improves quality of life. Science is what makes any system work. Be it capitalism or communism.
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Post by lordroel on Aug 10, 2018 7:51:35 GMT
I do not think this is anything related to this thread. I was explaining the version of capitalism that allows a laissez-faire system to go as far as possible. Science is what improves quality of life. Science is what makes any system work. Be it capitalism or communism. Okay, my bad, sorry.
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Post by Zyobot on Sept 19, 2018 1:03:57 GMT
I wonder how capitalistic a surviving Carthage that maintains its trade power-status would be. It'd likely be a strong contender for sheer economic freedom, if you ask me.
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