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Post by simon darkshade on Jun 21, 2022 12:30:54 GMT
British Airliners
Short Range HP.137 Skycoach (32 passengers to 1250 miles @ 360mph)
Bristol Type 200 (100 passengers to 1500 miles @ 640mph)
Vickers VC11 (120 passengers to 2000 miles @ 625mph) 737 twin jet type
Hawker-Siddeley Trident (160 passengers to 2500 miles @ 650mph) 727 tri jet type
Hawker-Siddeley One-Eleven (80-90 passengers to 1800 miles @ 700mph)
Armstrong-Whitworth AW.684 Arcadia (24 passengers to 500 miles @ 375mph)
Medium Range - Transatlantic - Medium Range Empire (Africa, India, Middle East, Asia) - European Routes
VC7 (200 passengers to 5000 miles @ 625mph) 707
DH Super Comet (160 passengers to 3750 miles @ 625mph)
Bristol Type 250 (120 passengers to 4000 miles @ 1500mph)
AW.750 Airbus (250 passengers to 5600 miles @ 675mph)
Avro Atlantic (100 passengers to 5000 miles @ 825mph)
Bristol Type 201 (80 passengers to 2000 @ 1000mph) Sud Super Caravelle type
- Airbus replaced VC7 on Transatlantic hop - Type 250 replaces Comet on fast MRE
Long Range
Vickers VC10 (480 passengers to 9600 miles @ 720mph)
HS Concord (240 passengers to 6400 miles @ 2300mph)
DH.150 (240 passengers to 7500 miles @ 1950mph)
- VC10 for cargo and passengers - Concord and Jetstream for speed
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Post by lordroel on Jun 21, 2022 13:45:47 GMT
British Airliners Short Range HP.137 Skycoach (32 passengers to 1250 miles @ 360mph) Bristol Type 200 (100 passengers to 1500 miles @ 640mph) Vickers VC11 (120 passengers to 2000 miles @ 625mph) 737 twin jet type Hawker-Siddeley Trident (160 passengers to 2500 miles @ 650mph) 727 tri jet type Hawker-Siddeley One-Eleven (80-90 passengers to 1800 miles @ 700mph) Armstrong-Whitworth AW.684 Arcadia (24 passengers to 500 miles @ 375mph) Medium Range - Transatlantic - Medium Range Empire (Africa, India, Middle East, Asia) - European Routes VC7 (200 passengers to 5000 miles @ 625mph) 707 DH Super Comet (160 passengers to 3750 miles @ 625mph) Bristol Type 250 (120 passengers to 4000 miles @ 1500mph) AW.750 Airbus (250 passengers to 5600 miles @ 675mph) Avro Atlantic (100 passengers to 5000 miles @ 825mph) Bristol Type 201 (80 passengers to 2000 @ 1000mph) Sud Super Caravelle type - Airbus replaced VC7 on Transatlantic hop - Type 250 replaces Comet on fast MRE Long Range Vickers VC10 (480 passengers to 9600 miles @ 720mph) HS Concord (240 passengers to 6400 miles @ 2300mph) DH.150 (240 passengers to 7500 miles @ 1950mph) - VC10 for cargo and passengers - Concord and Jetstream for speed Made in Britain the majority.
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Post by simon darkshade on Jun 21, 2022 15:23:27 GMT
The entirety. Canada has its own smaller airliner industry and there are smaller subsidiary groups in Australia, South Africa and India, but civilian aircraft manufacturing has yet to be distributed quite in the manner of military planes.
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Post by simon darkshade on Jun 30, 2022 11:31:35 GMT
January 1969 Notes
- The USSR isn’t too happy about the prospect of Japan getting the Bomb, but it isn’t the worst thing they have to deal with - Denzil Carey is no Rupert Murdoch; above and beyond his business and personal differences, he is a descendant of the heroic family used in many of the works of Ronald Welch - Chief Justice Nixon is a result of an attempt to pay off favours and remove potential Republican barriers to JFK’s 3rd term agenda - The Moroccan irregular militias get short shrift from artillery and gas, as a lot of such forces would when there are less political restraints - The RWIAF is a new force, but has a large population to draw from - Marcos being offed in the Philippines leads to some significant changes - One Eye Clinton’s loss of his left eye (and hence not having a left wing…) is no bar to his service. Not sure if he’ll go into politics, though - The result of the FBI shootout tragedy is that there will be a move to more powerful automatic pistols and the earlier formation of a HRT/FBI SWAT team (here standing for Special Wizardry and Tactics) - The Soviets down their own UFO in the Krasnoyarsk Incident… - The Saturday Evening Post lives on, with some new Norman Rockwell covers for a few years to come - B-47s continue to be used, mainly in the benign air environment over South Vietnam - The new Swiss food bars provide a literal meal in a bar; three of them feed a grown man working in a physical job for a day. They won’t quite sweep the market as it turns out people like food, cooking and the social act of breaking bread - Marighela surviving is part of a different turn in Brazil - The USA is keeping up at the cutting edge of high speed rail as a result of Cold War politics, industrial support and powerful rail interests - France, too, has its own superheroes - Syria in particular and the Arab Union in general is really spending a fair bit on their military and shifting the regional balance. Whereas in 1956, the Arab kingdoms were individually dependent on British support and quite vulnerable, they have progressed markedly and, in the Arab Union, built an increasingly powerful confederacy. Even Iraq, Syria, Arabia and Jordan together aren’t quite as powerful as Qajar Persia or Ottoman Turkey, yet. This power shift does go some way towards explaining the British agricultural aid + weather experiments in the region, as it provides a way of building up influence different from hard power. Incidentally, the Arab decision to buy weapons from East and West has been encouraged so they can be…acquired… - China continues to gird its industrial loins - JFK’s third term will be interesting… - Mary Bell’s commutation was inevitable, but she will not be getting out any time within the next 50 years - Dutch Elm Disease does not cut a swathe through Britain’s trees, nor indeed those on the Continent - Essentially, what is known of the GDR/East Prussia is that it is being built up by the Soviets as a sort of Potemkin state, rather than it somehow being the most industrialised nation in the world - The Royal Navy operates its own Yellow Submarine since 1967 - George Harrison travelling through India will impact his character. He might even end up joining a musical group when he gets home - The Iraqi Army actions were a test to see if the British jump on them. There are preparations for a coup going on, but by whom? - Trying to change the climate of Central Australia, even in a circumstance where there is a filled Mega Lake Eyre, is a challenge. Certainly not a short term job - The Long Range Missile Defence of the United Kingdom Plan is ambitious, but is being funded as a matter of profound national importance - The Two Towers stands an excellent chance of being the first sequel to win Best Picture; the Godfather trilogy won’t appear here on account of the lack of a Mafia/Italian organised crime presence of the same extent
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Post by simon darkshade on Jun 30, 2022 17:48:00 GMT
February - The planned city in Wyoming isn’t just a fit of centralist madness, but reflects some future construction projects that need to be in the heart of the country - The Silkworm attacks on Montana were just what it’s modern defences were built to counter; the missiles took out 4 of them and long range 5” guns destroyed the last - The Y-Files Group will have many, many strange cases to deal with… - Star Trek is notably different in small ways with British, French and German characters as well as Chekov, but the general character is familiar - The Boeing child of the 747 and 2707 is a very big, powerful plane - The flying old lady has more bottle than United Dairies - The Mexican village sees some strange effects from the meteor, similar in some ways with the Midwich Event - New green trams in London join the red buses, black cabs and blue Underground trains - Donald Campbell is not only still alive, but is setting new records - French PM Jean-Louis Beaucourt, the Marquis d’Ambreville is a mixture of Napoleon I, de Gaulle, Conde and Massu - Canada is really coming along in leaps and bounds, on a profoundly different path than @, but with great power comes increasing introspection on its role - SEALAB is not abandoned, but expanded. The Sea Race is on - This is a very different 1960s generation, without the ‘generation gap’, counterculture, significant anti war movement, rock and roll and with universal military service in both Britain and the USA - The Hong Kong incident begins with a historical accident, but the presence of large British forces that are looking to be assertive makes it blow up - The librarian could have potentially caused an extension to the Vietnam War if she had kicked out the diplomats for talking too loudly - African tigers are interesting enough, but Kit Walker getting involved raises the phantom of even more strange happenings - Indian termination continues, which is a very unfortunate course of action - The new Soviet MBT is a more powerful T-72 - Cambodia being invaded is not nearly as controversial as @, but opens up the end game - The early marriage of the Prince of Wales begins to develop - The US does not end biological warfare research and development - Golda Meyerson has the Anglicised surname as an indicator of relative influence - India continues to dabble in greater independence of action
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Post by simon darkshade on Jul 1, 2022 6:13:14 GMT
March - County Cricket undergoes an earlier transformation into a tiered competition - The establishment of Top Gun is driven by some intense fighter combat in Vietnam, even as there has been no outright abandonment of guns - The Goodies are quite the group of intrepid adventurers; they still have the trandem - Swiss voters are a bit more conservative on the question of female suffrage, but change will come eventually - Harry Callahan's method of dealing with armed robbers is very similar to the filmed adaption in The Enforcer, except a bit less soft and caring - Dog sleds continue to be used in the Far North, which is quite the military frontier - The BBC adaption of The Tripods has a bigger budget than @ and is quite a faithful version - Franco-American talks on the Congo are designed to cut out the British, but their Thai meetings aren't quite as clandestine as they think - The Soviet fishing trawler was taken by something big and nasty, possibly one of the last few megalodons. Once it was decided to hunt them down, the ability of modern man to wipe out a species is quite effective, which some might view as sad - The March 14th Massacre points out that not every paranormal individual is a nice, law abiding superhero type. There is also much darkness - Cleansing of the Thames is a significant step in what can be done with the modern combination of science, alchemy and magic to counteract pollution. It has some flow on effects, if you'll forgive the pun, with regard to consumption of fish and shellfish from the Thames and Thames Estuary and accompanying cultural/culinary trends - The RAN's new carriers are large, but not nuclear powered. The older Sydney and Melbourne will require replacement by the early 1980s, leaving time to fund other significant naval programmes, including the replacement of the RAN's two battleships - The lost city in Colombia has quite a few secrets... - The success of the invasion of Cambodia comes down to the combination of a heck of a lot of troops and the Ho Chi Minh Trail being cut - It might appear that the de Havilland Blue Moon medium range SLBM is a throwback, but it is intended for conventional or at least non-strategic use, giving the Submarine Service a long range strike capacity. It will also be deployed on cruisers in due course - The Colorado investigations are a bit of an Easter Egg, as they take place in the small town of South Park - The King of Jordan dismissed his PM and cabinet because they wanted to distance themselves from defence ties with Britain and the US; he knows the narrow path he has to walk and the stakes at play - Suslov represents the old school/conservative wing of the CPSU - The IJN rocket torpedoes turn out to have multiple uses and bring about a potential renaissance for ASuW ship torpedoes in some circumstances - Advanced British Army body armour will reduce casualties quite markedly over time, being the 'light' end of armour; the 'heavy' comes through Project Knight and its power armour - Alcatraz continues as a working prison
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Post by simon darkshade on Jul 1, 2022 14:21:04 GMT
April - The wizardly pranks of April Fools Day are harmless fun, but show the capacity of powerful people - Kipling still going at the sprightly old age of 103 - The Free Polish Armed Forces have probably not been actually deployable for a decade and this retirement finally acknowledges this. It was very much a political entity for the last decade or so, representing the legitimacy of Free Poland. It was made up of the aging wartime veterans as the officer and NCO corps, with the rank and file provided by the children of the exile community and the Polish diaspora from the USA, British Empire and France; even then, it was more of a symbolic hollow force than a useful or deployable element. In terms of units, they almost entirely marched on paper and formed a bit of a social club, with the exception of the ceremonial Royal Polish Guards battalion and Winged Hussars regiment. First to go was the Royal Polish Navy, which was laid up by the mid 1950s after being perpetuated as part of the RN - A slightly different Supreme Court comes down on the other side of the obscenity question in Stanley v Georgia. As of 1969, rather than Warren CJ, Black, Fortas, Douglas, Stewart, Marshall, Harlan, White and Brennan, it is Nixon CJ (1960), Black, Douglas, Alan Parker (1959), Potter Stewart (1958), Byron White (1962), Warren Burger (1956), Thurgood Marshall (1969) and Herbert Brownell (1954). Historically, there was a big shift between Roth in 1957 (6-3) and Stanley in 1969 (0-9) on the question of the protection of pornography. A very large part of this came down to the shifting social standards of the Sexual Revolution rather than a really dramatic shift in the alignment of the Supreme Court, although the Warren Court was very much a liberal one given to broad and creative interpretation. Here, the US Supreme Court is rather more conservative, reflecting a more socially conservative society and new Chief Justice Nixon is absolutely no Earl Warren. Some cases will not change, given logic and legal arguments, but where the change was driven by more than a decade of social changes absent on Dark Earth, we won't see them. I'm half wearing my legal hat for the cases out of general interest in exploring how and why very different decisions could eventuate, rather than conservatism for its own sake. - The French use the Maginot Line ouvrages as they did in @ - Kondo Simba is absolutely a nom de guerre and the ALF is playing a long game - John Wyndham has a longer life and career. He is already kicking on further than @ and will do so for many years to come. In a way, he will be part of a British 'triumvirate' of science fiction authors (akin to the international one of Asimov, Heinlein and Clarke) along with John Christopher/Sam Youd and Nicholas Fisk, or at least a bit of younger readers/older children's sci-fi. That is one of the few flourishes of personal preference I'm allowing to creep in, having discovered their works in the late 1980s as a boy through the Thames TV adaption of Wyndham's Chocky and then developed a taste for the written works of all three in 1990-1992. Fisk's Trillions of 1972 is an extremely British science fiction story that I was introduced to on audio cassette tape, followed by discovering John Christopher's The Sword of the Spirits trilogy and Wyndham's Day of the Triffids; The Tripods came years later, but appealed to me as an interesting example of British children's science fiction television and an interesting little written work to boot. Christopher and Fisk wrote their best stuff in the late 1960s and early 1970s (as distinct from Wyndham's 1950s pomp) which was and is an era of literature of that genre that I enjoy and appreciate. - The CIA agent in the GDR discovered some sort of production or copying facility before meeting a most terrible demise - Aquanautical exploration continues to grow - Square Eye Syndrome has only one, very horrific cure - cessation of television privileges for the afflicted boys for a year and a day - The SRAM entering service here has the range of the @ SRAM II with a much higher speed. It will be followed by a long range ALCM and a medium range weapon. These, in addition to Skybolt, give SAC a fair bit of flexibility going forward - There simply isn't the political support for lowering the voting age in Britain and the rest of the Western world is sticking to 21 for the moment; indeed, historically, the youngest in @ 1969 was Czechoslovakia with 20. The cultural normality of school, then national service, then work or study has been drilled in for multiple generations, rather than being a fairly recent phenomenon and, whilst the postwar generation is large, it isn't truly culturally distinct in the manner of @. As of 1969, the year group turning 18 are 1951 drops. Their early childhood was one of war in Korea, followed by a big war in the Middle East. By the time they entered secondary school in 1962/63, they'd lived through another war scare in 1960 and then have seen Vietnam progress through their 'teenage' years (the very word not being widely used). Their parents are either WW2 veterans or lived through both it and the Depression. They've had a lot of affluence, but not the same rebellion in dress, movies and music. - The international supervillain who escapes his Swiss mountain lair is exactly who it would seem to be - Blofeld, complete with white cat - Mobile heat rays have been under development since the War of the Worlds, but the problem of power supply has held them up until now. . Those captured by the British in the 1890s were reverse engineered and tinkered with for over 30 years until they could utilised effectively, initially on skyships and airships, but they never really found an ideal niche. On land, in tactical combat, it offers some advantages, but these continue to be tested and refined into two major streams. The first is a directed energy weapon/laser cannon a la Warhammer 40k, whilst the second is a more genuine heat ray for anti-personnel use: something like the Area Denial System, which can cause pain on its lowest setting all the way up to a beam of superheated energy that can set groups of enemy personnel on fire without vaporising/disintegrating them like some of the film versions of the Heat Ray. - The news about the success of Rumble is one salient feature, with the other being that journalists have been kept out of the combat zone until the fighting has come to an end. This is one aspect of keeping the news and information war under close control - JFK has a lot of political capital, but Universal Healthcare will use up all of it - 250,000 year old large humanoid bones in Colorado poses a lot of questions - The Northern Irish meteor isn't anything nasty, but the general procedure at this point is to treat everything as an act of the enemy or a dangerous alien object - General Barrientos had an older, louder helicopter. That ended up making him lunch - Ping? Pong! - The RN presence mission in the Shatt al Arab is a reminder to Iraq and Persia to play nicely. Britain controls Abadan, having annexed it decades ago and has a general interest in local peace and quiet
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Post by simon darkshade on Jul 1, 2022 15:37:30 GMT
May - The Springfield Army Tank Plant is more modern than Detroit and Grand Blanc (GM), Marion (Ford) and Lima (Chrysler), but they will all work together for tank and armoured vehicle production. The big ace in the hole is Willow Run, which has stayed in Ford's hands and has been planned for re-conversion to military production. Springfield also has a lovely nuclear power plant and Monty Burns has a fair bit of political clout - QM2 joins QE2, with two new White Star superliners following. The names of the latter can possibly be surmised. Historically, the Indian Summer of the ocean liner extended into the early-mid 1970s or so, prior to air travel costs lowering enough to break through. Here, that is pushed a bit further out due to the greater size of the oceans and the comfort/room provided by a ship. The American and British superliners were subsidised by their governments for potential wartime trooping use. - The Italian 'art commandos' are historical, but here are motivated by some of the more daring art thefts out there - Presence of a blue police box all over the place? It must be the doing of those silly university boys! - PM de Rodriguez of Argentina is building up to something, but it will happen in stages - The XV-21 will see some interesting use over time, as the Americans try to steal a march back on the British success with the Rotodyne and VTOL - Governor Reagan is very popular in California and across the Western states - Operation Ladder is an increasingly South Vietnamese show, as are many operations across South Vietnam, backed up by foreign airpower and artillery. The Hawker-Siddeley Salamander's closest @ equivalent is a combination of the Pucara and OV-1 Mohawk - The shift from Alexandria to Tobruk occurs in stages. As said, the Suez Canal zone will remain a vital area of interest well into the 1970s - Vampires in Melbourne is a very rare event - The War Book is not just a collection of mobilisation plans, but a magical artifact used to carry them out. A very Dark Earth thing - Rats disappearing from Trondheim suggests a paranormal event - Berlin to Budapest via Prague, Vienna and Bratislava is around 870 miles, which is a fair distance for a high speed railway - The Greeks/Byzantines have decided that they can't quite afford to retire its capital ships whilst the Turks still have theirs - The case of the USAF mechanic going crazy after his meds mixed up with cheese and Scotch is an OTL event - Narnia comes to the silver screen a lot sooner and in the same serious treatment and grandeur as seen in The Lord of the Rings, with appropriate tonal adjustments - African coups in self governing countries are turning out to be a bit more difficult when the governments have some powerful big friends - The L324 375mm Long Range Heavy Cannon is designed for heavy very long range fire support and interdiction on a mobile platform - The return of the flight of Avengers lost over the Bermuda Triangle is very, very mysterious - Biafra never really cooks off to the same extent
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Post by lordroel on Jul 1, 2022 15:49:36 GMT
January 1969 Notes - The USSR isn’t too happy about the prospect of Japan getting the Bomb, but it isn’t the worst thing they have to deal with Only they, what about China.
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Post by simon darkshade on Jul 1, 2022 16:07:09 GMT
China is the odd man out of international politics to some extent, albeit for different reasons than @. China doesn’t have a good history with Japan, but what exactly are they going to do?
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Post by lordroel on Jul 1, 2022 16:15:46 GMT
January 1969 Notes - Chief Justice Nixon is a result of an attempt to pay off favours and remove potential Republican barriers to JFK’s 3rd term agenda So how are Chief Justice Nixon views on some matters.
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Post by simon darkshade on Jul 1, 2022 17:04:56 GMT
June - There are some slight changes to the details of Charles’s investiture as Pragger Wagger and a larger TV audience…due to more people with TVs - HMAS Melbourne has an unfortunate habit of slicing up destroyers - This is a different Secret Army, at least in scale. It covers operations across the whole of Europe and beyond, bearing some resemblance to The Secret War, but in a dramatised format. The @ TV show will be made as ‘Lifeline’ - The 25th anniversary of D-Day is a very big event, with both Ike and Churchill being present - North Vietnamese Foxtrots are just the start of Soviet efforts to rearm their client - Spain really shouldn’t have played the Gibraltar game with a Britain at war under current leadership. - Use of Cloudmakers speaks more to the end of the conflict being in sight and using up old ammunition than any dramatic escalation - Heyerdahl and Cousteau discovering Atlantis is a very big event - Portugal is facing increasing difficulty in Mozambique - England has a few new players joining what is already a pretty strong England Test cricket team - Albanian goat tragedies are a terrible thing - Someone is responsible for tainting the Comintern’s fish eggs… - Canada is the first Dominion and first state beyond the topline powers to begin a nuclear powered surface ship - The Turkish Connection, or is it French, is going to be a hard one to break properly - Burning rivers and midair collisions are sadly OTL evened - Conventional Lance missiles are accompanied by a shorter range battlefield missile that counters the FROG-7. The Army is very interested in missiles - Peruvian land reform is the first step towards something - The FBI super computer will counter the emergence of a particular 1970s criminal phenomenon… - What could be underground in the Mojave? - Versailles hasn’t been impugned by historians to anywhere near the same extent
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Post by simon darkshade on Jul 1, 2022 17:12:30 GMT
January 1969 Notes - Chief Justice Nixon is a result of an attempt to pay off favours and remove potential Republican barriers to JFK’s 3rd term agenda So how are Chief Justice Nixon views on some matters. He is a judge, so his views are not entirely material. He has a conservative general alignment on law and order cases and adopts a strict constructionist and originality approach. He is very far from a Warren or even a Burger. As matters stand, the 1970 Supreme Court has a nominal 5-4 conservative-liberal split, but these are blessedly the days before such ideologically driven splits. The Harlan Court was not a Warren Court in cases or style.
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Post by simon darkshade on Jul 1, 2022 17:14:01 GMT
If you like, you are more than welcome to develop your questions a bit rather than firing off one and then switching to the next topic. Some do require a more complex answer.
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Post by lordroel on Jul 1, 2022 17:19:23 GMT
If you like, you are more than welcome to develop your questions a bit rather than firing off one and then switching to the next topic. Some do require a more complex answer. A okay. Will remember it for the next questions.
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