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Post by lordroel on Nov 29, 2021 15:59:34 GMT
They are lead by Che Guevara. Carlos will join, along with various Arab types, Andreas Baader and gang, Italians, Japanese Red Army and some of the nastier Irish types. Stir, add in some of the fictional characters of that profession and then serve as a growing pain and problem. Apologies, I forgot we're still in the 60's and that Che is still alive here.  And he might be for many years to come if he does not end up being killed. |
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Post by simon darkshade on Nov 29, 2021 16:13:58 GMT
Not a heist, but a strike at the heart of capitalism. So no gold to fund the global revolution. No. Trying to rob the Bank of England runs into the issue of how one can get away with any of the 8000+ tons of good that is held in the highest security underground vaults in the world; and how to do so in a city that has over 20,000 regular troops within a 25 mile radius, not to mention thousands of armed policemen, wizards, counter intelligence agents and dragons. Not the best plan. |
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Post by simon darkshade on Nov 29, 2021 16:14:52 GMT
They are lead by Che Guevara. Carlos will join, along with various Arab types, Andreas Baader and gang, Italians, Japanese Red Army and some of the nastier Irish types. Stir, add in some of the fictional characters of that profession and then serve as a growing pain and problem. Apologies, I forgot we're still in the 60's and that Che is still alive here. No worries. With no Castro or Cuba, he takes a different path. |
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Post by lordroel on Nov 29, 2021 16:16:45 GMT
So no gold to fund the global revolution. No. Trying to rob the Bank of England runs into the issue of how one can get away with any of the 8000+ tons of good that is held in the highest security underground vaults in the world; and how to do so in a city that has over 20,000 regular troops within a 25 mile radius, not to mention thousands of armed policemen, wizards, counter intelligence agents and dragons. Not the best plan. Do these guys work at the bank.  |
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Post by simon darkshade on Nov 29, 2021 17:21:35 GMT
They do not. The Bank of England, by and large, is not a commercial bank, even in 1968 DE.
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Post by lordroel on Nov 29, 2021 17:26:24 GMT
They do not. The Bank of England, by and large, is not a commercial bank, even in 1968 DE. So they might work in a different bank, if the world they exist in also exist in the Darkearth verse. |
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Post by simon darkshade on Nov 29, 2021 18:07:01 GMT
No. There is very little of Harry Potter in Dark Earth, as the former is fundamentally unimaginative derivative childish rubbish in its base ideas. I enjoyed the books as a fantasy written for children, as an entry into the genre as it were. I liked the films on a number of levels as a result of that.
But at its heart, as a magical world of the imagination, Harry Potter isn’t very magical, nor is it imaginative, nor is it a world. Apart from that, it is fine and dandy.
However, no significant influence on Dark Earth whatsoever.
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Post by lordroel on Nov 30, 2021 4:54:41 GMT
No. There is very little of Harry Potter in Dark Earth, as the former is fundamentally unimaginative derivative childish rubbish in its base ideas. I enjoyed the books as a fantasy written for children, as an entry into the genre as it were. I liked the films on a number of levels as a result of that. But at its heart, as a magical world of the imagination, Harry Potter isn’t very magical, nor is it imaginative, nor is it a world. Apart from that, it is fine and dandy. However, no significant influence on Dark Earth whatsoever. Good to hear. |
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Post by simon darkshade on Nov 30, 2021 16:33:25 GMT
As a general rule, the major fantastical or pop culture influences upon Dark Earth come from the tastes of my own formative years: the books, games, comics, music, films and television shows of a different time. That tends to rule out developments that occurred after my tastes were fully formed, such as Harry Potter, and stuff I’ve really never had any truck with, such as Marvel comics. Thus, Dark Earth Superman is very much based on the 1970s films (even though I love Man of Steel), Batman is a slightly more serious adaption of Adam West rather than a Dark, Anguished Antihero and none of the other characters/works are of the “postmodern reimagined” type.
Whilst there is dark fantasy aplenty, it is of a heroic type with some clear cut heroes and right and wrong; David Gemmell, Wheel of Time and Dragonlance rather than A Song of Ice and Fire or any of its other Grimdark clones. Whilst there is science fiction, it is old school Doctor Who, Original Star Trek, Flash Gordon, Dan Dare and Buck Rogers that are the sources, rather than modern reimaginings. There are plenty of adult ideas, but no adult material; there has never been any sex or bad language in Dark Earth works and there never will be any.
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Post by lordroel on Nov 30, 2021 16:55:39 GMT
As a general rule, the major fantastical or pop culture influences upon Dark Earth come from the tastes of my own formative years: the books, games, comics, music, films and television shows of a different time. That tends to rule out developments that occurred after my tastes were fully formed, such as Harry Potter, and stuff I’ve really never had any truck with, such as Marvel comics. Thus, Dark Earth Superman is very much based on the 1970s films (even though I love Man of Steel), Batman is a slightly more serious adaption of Adam West rather than a Dark, Anguished Antihero and none of the other characters/works are of the “postmodern reimagined” type. Whilst there is dark fantasy aplenty, it is of a heroic type with some clear cut heroes and right and wrong; David Gemmell, Wheel of Time and Dragonlance rather than A Song of Ice and Fire or any of its other Grimdark clones. Whilst there is science fiction, it is old school Doctor Who, Original Star Trek, Flash Gordon, Dan Dare and Buck Rogers that are the sources, rather than modern reimaginings. There are plenty of adult ideas, but no adult material; there has never been any sex or bad language in Dark Earth works and there never will be any. Dane Dare ,please tell me Professor Peabody (Prof. Jocelyn Mabel Peabody) and Digby exist in the Darkearth verse. |
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Post by simon darkshade on Nov 30, 2021 17:06:33 GMT
The characters are nominally present, but aren’t precise facsimiles due to the different universe. Dan Dare is a source, not copied in wholesale.
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Post by lordroel on Nov 30, 2021 17:09:30 GMT
The characters are nominally present, but aren’t precise facsimiles due to the different universe. Dan Dare is a source, not copied in wholesale. A so no evil Mekon then to try to take over the world. |
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Post by simon darkshade on Nov 30, 2021 17:24:00 GMT
Not to take over Earth. There is something coming on Venus.
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Post by lordroel on Dec 1, 2021 4:17:30 GMT
Not to take over Earth. There is something coming on Venus. I can wait and see what is coming. |
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Post by simon darkshade on Dec 1, 2021 5:01:35 GMT
It isn’t a major plot point or anything like that. My main point was not “Ooh! Complete transplant of Dan Dare!” but rather than it is a stylistic and tonal influence. The problem with some of the Multiple Fictional Universe Combinations/Anachronism Stews is that, if simply slapped together in their entirety, they don’t make sense. Something similar came up with an observation about the presence of Superman and then a question as to whether some particular supervillain or intergalactic menace was also present. Some things can hopefully be inferred. Edit: It was last year: alternate-timelines.proboards.com/thread/2011/dark-earth-never-good?page=15&scrollTo=93398“But i assume there are more powerful person out there, and if Superman is alive in the Darkearth verse, than so must Krypton and maybe Brainiac be.” The most applicable answer is something I wrote a bit further down that thread. To paraphrase: If it would change the whole world to being about them, then it is not present in that manner. That is one of the tests as to whether something can be included. |
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