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Post by stevep on Sept 14, 2020 15:04:33 GMT
April 1.) The protests are OTL, but in general, the South Vietnamese government isn’t as much of a basket case. 2.) A larger Royal Family reflects a general social pattern for larger families and some different biological factors. 3.) Historically, they broke out over fares. Here, I wanted to inject a note of the suspicion of the British colonial authorities, who see Communist and Chinese threats in many events. 4.) The Kosygin reforms were historical, although they were curtailed under Brezhnev. Here, they will continue. 5.) It wasn’t a mistake. This ship, the American one and a Soviet one are all very, very long term projects that aren’t designed to carry huge crews. The size and general appearance? Something like Red Dwarf, at least for the British ship. 6.) I’m not sure which cruiser gets saved, or if they do at all. At the moment, there are a lot of ships newly placed in reserve. I’ll put something together in a separate post. 7.) It is a historical event, but hard to get details from the most usual sources. 8.) Yes, it certainly is. Israel doesn’t quite fit as a subsidiary nation of either Britain or the USA for that matter. It has a quite strategic location. 9.) The records will eventually be in English. 10.) He will. On a related note, it is quite interesting to see the British dominance of motor racing at this point. 11.) Yes, Arabian oil is very much in British control and theirs is the primary influence. The Arabian Hashemite monarchy isn’t the same as the Saudis in a number of different ways. 12.) Wilhelm Hitler is quite sane, quite brilliant, quite fanatic and quite, quite evil. 13.) That is the proximate cause, but it has been simmering for some time. 14.) Indeed. Colour television has been around in Britain since 1950 or so. 15.) There will be more VCs coming soon. 16.) Yes, Britain is trying to do as much as possible with as minimal a commitment as possible. To that end, the bombers used are those deployed in the Far East anyway for deterrence of Indonesia and use in Malaya and Burma. The land forces committed initially were a Gurkha division and a British brigade. However, as things escalate, this strategy is no longer possible. 17.) Historically, she wasn’t quite so old. The “old age” contest is a little less significant with longer lives and magic. 18.) The assassination attempt occurred and failed historically, but here, his British supplied wizard does the job; his role also involves ensuring that the Sultan doesn’t go against British interests. 19.) It was motivated, as in @, by the girl wanting to see her father who was stationed in Britain. Here, after her attempt was discovered, the British Ambassador stepped in and offered to pay for a flight to see her father. A little thing, of no great global import, but nice to create/write. 20.) It doesn’t help such relations at all. 21.) The hovercraft doesn’t end up as a relative developmental cul de sac here.
1) That's better than OTL then as it was the weakness of the local government as much as the mismanagement by the US military that were the main sources of the OTL defeat.
5) Now that is ambitious and interesting. Of course a lot could change depending on the result of those broadcasts but it shows some of the OTL ambitions of the period being able to be taken much further - the Luna bases being a big help here. Presuming their planning on approaching c for a relativistic effect as such a small crew - hopefully somewhat more stable than in the named show  - wouldn't be anywhere near enough for a generation ship.
6) - I doubt if all with be saved - long term - as that would be very expensive and would need a lot of public support but one could be.
10) excellent on Hill' survival and quite happy on the other bit.
11) Very good for Britain, at least in the short/medium terms and also for the region without the religious extremism of the Saudis.
12) Now that is a very nasty combination. If he's got to be fanatical and evil why couldn't he be as stupid and irrational as his father!
18) OTL of course the sultan proved to be a burden for the country being very autocratic and eventually deposed by his son who overall greatly modernised the country, making it a lot more stable and prosperous.
19) Nice ending to the story but still the idea of someone getting on the boat before it sails is worrying given their not exactly roomy.
21) Excellent news.
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Post by simon darkshade on Sept 14, 2020 16:04:45 GMT
A few comments/answers on answers before more months later on:
- The MACV will have heavier armour than the Warrior or Bradley, carry a full section and be armed with a heavier autocannon; the current preference is for a 50mm gun.
- The nature of the planets of the solar system is a bit different, based on some of the works of Frank R. Paul which I first discovered on David Szondy's Days of Future Past website.
- I think you meant this comment on the Syrian explosion, which fits it more. Basically, there are other powers that would be interested in pushing Israel and the Arabs towards conflict or at least towards internal instability.
- Greece is right next to them and is the traditional Turkish foe. However, the Soviets present a larger threat, which some Turks are starting to see.
- The different opinions will lean a bit more towards negative over time as science advances.
- I do have a detailed list of the ancient cultures/lost civilisations of Dark Earth, the supernatural past cultures and where it all links together. I can put up an edited version of it, as some things will come out later down the line
- Fantasy Island wasn't something I watched a lot, but its supernatural nature makes it well suited to Dark Earth.
- The real damage to fish stocks occurred in the 1960s and 70s, just as the big damage to whale numbers came late in the piece. Here, there is a different situation, which helps in the long run.
- Perhaps the US in @ would be similarly happy to see monarchies go and be replaced by a more amenable republican regime.
- You do hit the issue on the head: getting back successfully paves the way to doing it again and then moving beyond. Unlike Apollo, this space race will not peter out into nothing.
- Definitely. This is one different aspect that sets up a different result. It isn't just a matter of bombing more or flooding the country with troops, but of good government, good strategy, good tactics AND more troops etc.
- These starships will get some form of generational crew, as well as developments in statis/cold sleep. They have got to be big enough to be sustaining en route and upon arrival, have exploratory and military capacity for whatever is at the other end and have a sufficient crew/sleeping personnel to carry out a variety of roles and provide sufficient genetic diversity down the line. But those realisations and discoveries come later down the line when more is learnt and developed. Their current approach is to build a big enough ship and work from there.
- The most likely course of action is 2-3 cruisers being saved in Britain at absolute maximum, with some of the ships sold into foreign service possibly surviving by accident. Unlike the historical circumstance, the guns from the scrapped ships have been saved in storage, just in case. This has been touched upon in other stories, but one of the general British defence aphorisms is never to throw out anything that might, might be useful at some point. That is how more ships will end up being saved, through non-military uses for them.
- Hill's survival isn't that hard to imagine. Historically, there was only one non-British or Commonwealth driver winning between 57 and 71, which I'd never really known about. I'd always thought that things were a bit closer.
- Absolutely right on both terms. The monetary impact of getting the oil money in the 1940s, 50s and 60s will be substantial, although there will be some sort of new deal on oil royalties, similar to what will occur in Persia and Iraq. Whilst the impact of extremism wouldn't show up for a few years yet, it is a big change. It is more of a cosmopolitan Arabia in some ways.
- We lucked out with Hitler in @ and in Dark Earth. A competent villain who believes their own propaganda, but not to the point of delusion is a very, very dangerous one.
- You have kind of rumbled my intentions regarding Oman, as an earlier replacement of the current chap will be engineered by the British.
- It is a concern, but there haven't been too many similar cases.
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Post by simon darkshade on Sept 14, 2020 18:39:53 GMT
May
1.) The approach being taken to the invasion of Cambodia is to go in very heavy and very ambitious. Total forces would be 250,000 men supported by over 1000 aircraft. How it works remains to be seen.
2.) The SCA is not so much of a barely known niche here.
3.) The Home Championship is still going strong, but the Imperial Cup is a separate Conmonwealth competition that is beginning to grow in stature and popularity. In some ways, there is a divergence from the shift towards the World Cup and European Cup.
4.) The menace of the fire ants will need new ideas and means.
5.) It is a Dark Earth event, as the Chinese here are trying to win North Vietnam into their camp quite openly.
6.) The monthly call up is much larger than @ National Service (6000 twice/month + once in December) but still down from the peak of 50,000 men twice a month, which effectively amounted to universal service. The brief 60s reduction is passing. The primary use of conscripts is to provide support roles for the regulars (250,000), cover colonial garrisons and make up the reserves.
To expand, the 18-20 year olds do their basic training and are then assigned to either the Regular Army at home or in the Empire, or the RAF, RN or Royal Marines. From 21-25, they are Category A reservists, liable to immediate recall in a situation of mobilisation. They make up the Regular Reserve along with retired soldiers who retain a service obligation. That would only account for ~2.5 million out of the ~5 million in the age bracket, with the others making up the 8 Army Reserve divisions + 12 AR brigades, mobilisation divisions, depot brigades, cavalry reserve regiments, reinforcement pool and other such units.
From 26-32, they come under the Territorial Army, along with volunteers etc. At this time, some manpower is directed into Civil Defence mobilisation reserve units. From 32-40, they come under the Home Guard.
7.) The shipping policy will have some very interesting results.
8.) No, this particular French strike is a more traditional protest.
9.) The Phantom deal is very large, very powerful and very contentious; more on this to come.
10.) Whatever is going that fast and that high is a worry; however, it is a case of one hand not knowing what the other is doing. Project Isinglass.
11.) There is a master thief at work!
12.) Earhart is still youngish and quite active.
13.) Stewart is coming up a bit, but soon another name will return.
14.) It is a most vexatious development for Sukarno, but the will of the West New Guineans is not going to stop what he thinks is right.
15.) The event is inspired by the song, providing a real basis for it.
16.) There is a delay involved due to the distance. Even the computer will get interviewed.
17.) It is supposed to look like him, but someone is playing a twisted joke by it...It actually is the work of Count Dracula. In modern terms, he is definitely a magnificent bastard and enjoys trolling. It amuses him.
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Post by simon darkshade on Sept 15, 2020 7:06:57 GMT
June
1.) The superpower foreign minister conference does deal with the extraterrestrial contact, but runs into some issues of mutual mistrust.
2.) It is very useful and has been signposted earlier with George Lucas.
3.) The silver shortage is from @, but here, the reasons is far more secret. Those who sniff around it get told off in no uncertain terms.
4.) It is a stronger, more stable Mexico, but also one with a combination of more ambitions and a cooler relationship with the USA.
5.) That rather super fellow does get about, but did have reasons to be in Kansas.
6.) Soviet elections are always fair, accurate and democratic. Anyone who disagrees with that ends weaving wicker power stations inside the Arctic circle.
7.) Yes, the Miranda decision goes the other way as one indicator of a more conservative Supreme Court than the Warren Court. Considering who the Chief Justice will be in a few years (Richard Nixon), it will change further.
8.) There will be a few more British cast members, but the equivalent British sci fi series won't come out until 1967.
9.) It is not only an indicator of a difference and a harbinger of some developments to come, but also an oblique reference to a line from Skyrim.
10.) A world with superheroes does need its supervillains.
11.) Algeria is a big, ongoing problem as the FLN is now getting backing through Tunisia and Morocco from outside sources. However, there are many complicating factors.
12.) The assassination of Calwell throws the cat among the pigeons in Australian politics and has a big social/cultural impact. The next Australian Federal election is due in 1969 with the successor to Menzies being a different character. Labour (not Labor, which is a distinct difference to @) will also shift in some different ways in an attempt to emulate the success of the Labour Party in Britain and Kennedy in the USA.
13.) The Soviet leadership is going through a period of great change and this is the first stage of it.
14.) As said above, there are major consequences and the far right in Australia will basically disappear in the crackdown.
15.) This is an OTL development but American car development will not follow the precise historical path.
16.) "The Event" is a lot bigger than simply the Midwich Cuckoos; there will be some future events and references to a range of 1960s, 70s and 80s British sci-fi as a result, including The Tomorrow People.
17.) Medical advances are considerably ahead of @.
18.) That is one of several topics Tesla discusses with the President.
19.) Yes, this was a reference to Dark Shadows, which would lead to a different reaction here.
20.) Not only will it lead to Civilisation, but quite a few excellent documentaries, some of which will come from some rather more traditional perspectives.
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Post by stevep on Sept 15, 2020 12:28:04 GMT
A few comments/answers on answers before more months later on: - The MACV will have heavier armour than the Warrior or Bradley, carry a full section and be armed with a heavier autocannon; the current preference is for a 50mm gun. - The nature of the planets of the solar system is a bit different, based on some of the works of Frank R. Paul which I first discovered on David Szondy's Days of Future Past website. - I think you meant this comment on the Syrian explosion, which fits it more. Basically, there are other powers that would be interested in pushing Israel and the Arabs towards conflict or at least towards internal instability. - Greece is right next to them and is the traditional Turkish foe. However, the Soviets present a larger threat, which some Turks are starting to see. - The different opinions will lean a bit more towards negative over time as science advances. - I do have a detailed list of the ancient cultures/lost civilisations of Dark Earth, the supernatural past cultures and where it all links together. I can put up an edited version of it, as some things will come out later down the line - Fantasy Island wasn't something I watched a lot, but its supernatural nature makes it well suited to Dark Earth. - The real damage to fish stocks occurred in the 1960s and 70s, just as the big damage to whale numbers came late in the piece. Here, there is a different situation, which helps in the long run. - Perhaps the US in @ would be similarly happy to see monarchies go and be replaced by a more amenable republican regime. - You do hit the issue on the head: getting back successfully paves the way to doing it again and then moving beyond. Unlike Apollo, this space race will not peter out into nothing. - Definitely. This is one different aspect that sets up a different result. It isn't just a matter of bombing more or flooding the country with troops, but of good government, good strategy, good tactics AND more troops etc. - These starships will get some form of generational crew, as well as developments in statis/cold sleep. They have got to be big enough to be sustaining en route and upon arrival, have exploratory and military capacity for whatever is at the other end and have a sufficient crew/sleeping personnel to carry out a variety of roles and provide sufficient genetic diversity down the line. But those realisations and discoveries come later down the line when more is learnt and developed. Their current approach is to build a big enough ship and work from there. - The most likely course of action is 2-3 cruisers being saved in Britain at absolute maximum, with some of the ships sold into foreign service possibly surviving by accident. Unlike the historical circumstance, the guns from the scrapped ships have been saved in storage, just in case. This has been touched upon in other stories, but one of the general British defence aphorisms is never to throw out anything that might, might be useful at some point. That is how more ships will end up being saved, through non-military uses for them. - Hill's survival isn't that hard to imagine. Historically, there was only one non-British or Commonwealth driver winning between 57 and 71, which I'd never really known about. I'd always thought that things were a bit closer. - Absolutely right on both terms. The monetary impact of getting the oil money in the 1940s, 50s and 60s will be substantial, although there will be some sort of new deal on oil royalties, similar to what will occur in Persia and Iraq. Whilst the impact of extremism wouldn't show up for a few years yet, it is a big change. It is more of a cosmopolitan Arabia in some ways. - We lucked out with Hitler in @ and in Dark Earth. A competent villain who believes their own propaganda, but not to the point of delusion is a very, very dangerous one. - You have kind of rumbled my intentions regarding Oman, as an earlier replacement of the current chap will be engineered by the British. - It is a concern, but there haven't been too many similar cases.
Just to say that was in the established western fisheries such as the Grand Banks. Unfortunately its still going on in a lot of the rest of the world with evidence appearing that actual catches are far higher than being recorded, with a lot of illegal fishing going on aided by corruption and limited resources in many parts of the world. There was even a case where Russia was being screwed as the Sea of Okhotsk was large enough that its central portion was outside Russian territorial waters. As such until the rules were changed to give Russia total control of the fisheries in the areas you had pretty much unlimited fishing in the central region which since the fish don't recognise territorial waters meant the entire sea was being stripped bare. Similarly there are some evidence that the outbreak of piracy that occurred off Somalia a decade or so back was in part because of foreign trawlers stripping the local fisheries and causing serious problems for the locals who depended heavily on the fish supplies for their livelihood and the entire economy.
Getting off the topic here but just to cover a point of serious concern.
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Post by simon darkshade on Sept 15, 2020 12:42:30 GMT
Oh, most certainly. The ongoing overfishing is a big issue across lesser known areas of the world, yet because it is outside of the immediate West, it doesn't rate a mention. Here, the issue begins to be addressed early enough for something to be done about it.
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Post by stevep on Sept 15, 2020 12:55:50 GMT
May 1.) The approach being taken to the invasion of Cambodia is to go in very heavy and very ambitious. Total forces would be 250,000 men supported by over 1000 aircraft. How it works remains to be seen. 2.) The SCA is not so much of a barely known niche here. 3.) The Home Championship is still going strong, but the Imperial Cup is a separate Conmonwealth competition that is beginning to grow in stature and popularity. In some ways, there is a divergence from the shift towards the World Cup and European Cup. 4.) The menace of the fire ants will need new ideas and means. 5.) It is a Dark Earth event, as the Chinese here are trying to win North Vietnam into their camp quite openly. 6.) The monthly call up is much larger than @ National Service (6000 twice/month + once in December) but still down from the peak of 50,000 men twice a month, which effectively amounted to universal service. The brief 60s reduction is passing. The primary use of conscripts is to provide support roles for the regulars (250,000), cover colonial garrisons and make up the reserves. To expand, the 18-20 year olds do their basic training and are then assigned to either the Regular Army at home or in the Empire, or the RAF, RN or Royal Marines. From 21-25, they are Category A reservists, liable to immediate recall in a situation of mobilisation. They make up the Regular Reserve along with retired soldiers who retain a service obligation. That would only account for ~2.5 million out of the ~5 million in the age bracket, with the others making up the 8 Army Reserve divisions + 12 AR brigades, mobilisation divisions, depot brigades, cavalry reserve regiments, reinforcement pool and other such units. From 26-32, they come under the Territorial Army, along with volunteers etc. At this time, some manpower is directed into Civil Defence mobilisation reserve units. From 32-40, they come under the Home Guard. 7.) The shipping policy will have some very interesting results. 8.) No, this particular French strike is a more traditional protest. 9.) The Phantom deal is very large, very powerful and very contentious; more on this to come. 10.) Whatever is going that fast and that high is a worry; however, it is a case of one hand not knowing what the other is doing. Project Isinglass. 11.) There is a master thief at work! 12.) Earhart is still youngish and quite active. 13.) Stewart is coming up a bit, but soon another name will return. 14.) It is a most vexatious development for Sukarno, but the will of the West New Guineans is not going to stop what he thinks is right. 15.) The event is inspired by the song, providing a real basis for it. 16.) There is a delay involved due to the distance. Even the computer will get interviewed. 17.) It is supposed to look like him, but someone is playing a twisted joke by it...It actually is the work of Count Dracula. In modern terms, he is definitely a magnificent bastard and enjoys trolling. It amuses him.
1) As you said elsewhere the important thing is how the occupation is managed. Important that they win over the locals and suppress any local communists, making sure they realise the former is the more important option. Too much sheer firepower as the US tends to do is likely to fail miserably and be very costly for all concerned.
3) That sounds like a very crowded season is already developing with a lot of international commitments. Plus a commonwealth wide event is going to raise issues of the sheer amount of traveling involved plus the need for visiting teams to get over jet-lag and used to the different time.
4) Sounds like new ideas have already been tried, so wondering what their coming up with next. As long as its not partitioning Panama by making the canal a say 20 miles wide sea level channel!
5) That's going to be quite an economic and social burden. Virtually all the male population losing a couple of years of their active learning or working time to the military. Probably also going to cause a lot of resentment, which might be modified if say the voting age is reduced to 18 earlier and other efforts to accept the late teens as full members of society. Plus your got Britain going for basically a continental military rather than its traditional smaller but more skill and technology heavy one.
7) Well at least the merchant marine will have a good bit more protection, allowing it to compete on a more level term with rivals. Although still likely to see flags of convenience starting to get more important.
9) Unless their getting a fair chunk of the production and even then I can see a lot of British firms being unhappy. Especially since there would be concerns at skill losses in areas such as design and development. Not to mention if Britain is buying American it makes existing British a/c a harder sell in foreign markets. At the same time economy of scale does give benefits, especially with the huge size of the forces Britain is maintaining here.
10) Ah the old intra-service rivalry. Reminds me of the old story of a US air force mission to land the 1st man on Luna. When they come down on the selected spot they find a vehicle already there and close by. Nervously wondering if the Soviets have bet them too it one commander goes over and when he returns tells his men "the damned navy bet us too it!"  In this case its the spooks but the same lack of communications applies.
11) Well I can think of a pink panther - although IIRC that was the name of the diamond he stole rather than the crook, or possibly if he's still about a famous hotel in Singapore?
13) When you say return do you mean from earlier in the season or who has retired? Can only think of Mike Hawthorn there, at least among the British/Commonwealth. Although by this time we're also getting into Jim Clarke territory.
14) Unfortunately I suspected that would be his opinion. 
16) As long as its not called Hal!!
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Post by stevep on Sept 15, 2020 13:20:35 GMT
June 1.) The superpower foreign minister conference does deal with the extraterrestrial contact, but runs into some issues of mutual mistrust. 2.) It is very useful and has been signposted earlier with George Lucas. 3.) The silver shortage is from @, but here, the reasons is far more secret. Those who sniff around it get told off in no uncertain terms. 4.) It is a stronger, more stable Mexico, but also one with a combination of more ambitions and a cooler relationship with the USA. 5.) That rather super fellow does get about, but did have reasons to be in Kansas. 6.) Soviet elections are always fair, accurate and democratic. Anyone who disagrees with that ends weaving wicker power stations inside the Arctic circle. 7.) Yes, the Miranda decision goes the other way as one indicator of a more conservative Supreme Court than the Warren Court. Considering who the Chief Justice will be in a few years (Richard Nixon), it will change further. 8.) There will be a few more British cast members, but the equivalent British sci fi series won't come out until 1967. 9.) It is not only an indicator of a difference and a harbinger of some developments to come, but also an oblique reference to a line from Skyrim. 10.) A world with superheroes does need its supervillains. 11.) Algeria is a big, ongoing problem as the FLN is now getting backing through Tunisia and Morocco from outside sources. However, there are many complicating factors. 12.) The assassination of Calwell throws the cat among the pigeons in Australian politics and has a big social/cultural impact. The next Australian Federal election is due in 1969 with the successor to Menzies being a different character. Labour (not Labor, which is a distinct difference to @) will also shift in some different ways in an attempt to emulate the success of the Labour Party in Britain and Kennedy in the USA. 13.) The Soviet leadership is going through a period of great change and this is the first stage of it. 14.) As said above, there are major consequences and the far right in Australia will basically disappear in the crackdown. 15.) This is an OTL development but American car development will not follow the precise historical path. 16.) "The Event" is a lot bigger than simply the Midwich Cuckoos; there will be some future events and references to a range of 1960s, 70s and 80s British sci-fi as a result, including The Tomorrow People. 17.) Medical advances are considerably ahead of @. 18.) That is one of several topics Tesla discusses with the President. 19.) Yes, this was a reference to Dark Shadows, which would lead to a different reaction here. 20.) Not only will it lead to Civilisation, but quite a few excellent documentaries, some of which will come from some rather more traditional perspectives.
3) Well either there is an additional demand for silver, say as some component in some vital military or technological operation or something nasty developing.
4) Well "stronger, more stable Mexico" will inevitably mean cooler relations with the US, great power politics and the nature of the US being what they are.
5) Of course, visiting family.
6) Of course I totally agree - nervously waiting for a loud hammering at the door.
7) Yikes, that's unlikely to be good!
14) Very good.
15) Could be interesting and hopefully also include an earlier awareness of environmental problems. Also might mean they, like so many others don't get slaughtered economically by Japan.
16) That's a blast from my childhood I'm desperately trying to remember. Could mean some contact with the Galactic Federation from that series, which might be a more reassuring outcome to those messages. Going to be interesting if the Federation is as pacifist as in the series as that would clash with the very militaristic DE not to mention all the assorted nasties about. If Homo Novis is starting to appear its going to upset a lot of the establishment.
20) Well Clark's Civilisation was very traditional itself or do you mean possibly from older cultures?
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Post by simon darkshade on Sept 15, 2020 13:28:32 GMT
July
1.) There seems to be a fair few African countries getting independence rather quickly in 1966, which might come back to be a negative down the line.
2.) The French test different warheads in Algeria and the South Pacific; the latter is often used for live missile tests and longer range weapons, whereas the bigger bombs are tested under the Sahara.
3.) McDonalds is one of several familiar fast food brands from @ in existence, but in general diets are a fair bit healthier and are stylistically closer to earlier eras. I could expand on this in quite a bit of detail due to my interest in food history, so may do so.
4.) The case of Fischer is entirely historical, apart from being tried by a German rather than an East German court. The historical leniency displayed by West German courts doesn't really get an opportunity to take off.
5.) Sadly, the heatwave and its consequences are fairly historical.
6.) The competing nations in the World Cup are England, the Soviet Union, Uruguay and Mexico; Germany, Argentina, Sweden and Spain; France, Austria-Hungary, Brazil and Portugal; Italy, Chile, the United States and Scotland. Therefore, there are some different matches and results in the process.
7.) He certainly looked very different afterwards.
8.) I didn't have to change virtually anything about the Grand Prix results at this time.
9.) The SDU exists in a declining parallel structure to NATO*, something similar to the WEU, but with a more immediate threat right next door. The joint brigades are an effort to keep the SDU going.
10.) His escape is historical, but is still impressive.
11.) Many of Churchill's late life health problems aren't present in the same form.
12.) The deaths of the rabbits come from an unnatural cause, particularly with the die-out occurring all on the same day.
13.) Yes, Heston isn't completely ideal as Aragorn, but I didn't want to try and create perfection. Besides, there isn't a 6'4" British actor with the same talent, same stature and gravitas and a voice that combines the best of Robert Stephens and John Hurt.
14.) This goes down as the big match and big upset of the tournament, with a very controversial penalty putting France ahead at the 87 minute mark following on from a referee calling a German striker offside just before half-time as he streamed towards goal. I can't say I know a lot about soccer, but am somewhat familiar with the tropes of drama.
15.) Yes, it is one event that shows some of the issues with pushing younger wizards through training and apprenticeship as fast as possible. Nothing could possibly go wrong there.
16.) The Benelux contract is very, very big: 3500 Chieftains, 5000 FV-432s, 1240 125mm field guns and SP guns; 800 Marksman SPAAGs, 1600 Sharpshooter SPAAGs and 1000 PT.428 SAM systems; up to 80 Blue Water SRBMs and 240 extra Bloodhound SAM systems; and replacements for 174 Canberras, 324 Hunters, 237 Fairey Deltas, 78 Javelins and 74 Vixens in the form of 160 Vickers Thunderbolts, 320 de Havilland Tornados, 120 Fairey Delta IIs, 120 English Electric Lightnings and 160 Hawker-Siddeley Merlins. The FV-432s will be produced under licence in the Netherlands and Belgium, whilst 1500 tanks will be built in Britain over 3 years and 2000 in the Low Countries.
17.) Yes, Geoff Hurst scores a hat trick, although the England captain is Duncan Edwards.
18.) Something strange is going on out there beyond ordinary reality.
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Post by stevep on Sept 15, 2020 13:30:00 GMT
Oh, most certainly. The ongoing overfishing is a big issue across lesser known areas of the world, yet because it is outside of the immediate West, it doesn't rate a mention. Here, the issue begins to be addressed early enough for something to be done about it.
Excellent news. Its starting to get mentioned but unfortunately there are a lot of vested interests, not just in Beijing, one of the biggest crooks involved, who don't want people knowing about such problems.
One thing I forgot to mention. Very tempted by the idea of that summary of ancient cultures and civilizations, even if your keeping some details under cover for plot reasons. Like the messages aren't coming from foreigners but from Atlantans, Silurians or some other former inhabitants of Earth now returning home.  Could you post the abbreviated version or possibly PM me please if you prefer?
Thanks
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Post by simon darkshade on Sept 15, 2020 13:38:13 GMT
I'll put up the ancient civilisation summary once I finish my current replies. It won't be completely full, but will have enough teasers.
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Post by stevep on Sept 15, 2020 13:44:38 GMT
July 1.) There seems to be a fair few African countries getting independence rather quickly in 1966, which might come back to be a negative down the line. 2.) The French test different warheads in Algeria and the South Pacific; the latter is often used for live missile tests and longer range weapons, whereas the bigger bombs are tested under the Sahara. 3.) McDonalds is one of several familiar fast food brands from @ in existence, but in general diets are a fair bit healthier and are stylistically closer to earlier eras. I could expand on this in quite a bit of detail due to my interest in food history, so may do so. 4.) The case of Fischer is entirely historical, apart from being tried by a German rather than an East German court. The historical leniency displayed by West German courts doesn't really get an opportunity to take off. 5.) Sadly, the heatwave and its consequences are fairly historical. 6.) The competing nations in the World Cup are England, the Soviet Union, Uruguay and Mexico; Germany, Argentina, Sweden and Spain; France, Austria-Hungary, Brazil and Portugal; Italy, Chile, the United States and Scotland. Therefore, there are some different matches and results in the process. 7.) He certainly looked very different afterwards. 8.) I didn't have to change virtually anything about the Grand Prix results at this time. 9.) The SDU exists in a declining parallel structure to NATO*, something similar to the WEU, but with a more immediate threat right next door. The joint brigades are an effort to keep the SDU going. 10.) His escape is historical, but is still impressive. 11.) Many of Churchill's late life health problems aren't present in the same form. 12.) The deaths of the rabbits come from an unnatural cause, particularly with the die-out occurring all on the same day. 13.) Yes, Heston isn't completely ideal as Aragorn, but I didn't want to try and create perfection. Besides, there isn't a 6'4" British actor with the same talent, same stature and gravitas and a voice that combines the best of Robert Stephens and John Hurt. 14.) This goes down as the big match and big upset of the tournament, with a very controversial penalty putting France ahead at the 87 minute mark following on from a referee calling a German striker offside just before half-time as he streamed towards goal. I can't say I know a lot about soccer, but am somewhat familiar with the tropes of drama. 15.) Yes, it is one event that shows some of the issues with pushing younger wizards through training and apprenticeship as fast as possible. Nothing could possibly go wrong there. 16.) The Benelux contract is very, very big: 3500 Chieftains, 5000 FV-432s, 1240 125mm field guns and SP guns; 800 Marksman SPAAGs, 1600 Sharpshooter SPAAGs and 1000 PT.428 SAM systems; up to 80 Blue Water SRBMs and 240 extra Bloodhound SAM systems; and replacements for 174 Canberras, 324 Hunters, 237 Fairey Deltas, 78 Javelins and 74 Vixens in the form of 160 Vickers Thunderbolts, 320 de Havilland Tornados, 120 Fairey Delta IIs, 120 English Electric Lightnings and 160 Hawker-Siddeley Merlins. The FV-432s will be produced under licence in the Netherlands and Belgium, whilst 1500 tanks will be built in Britain over 3 years and 2000 in the Low Countries. 17.) Yes, Geoff Hurst scores a hat trick, although the England captain is Duncan Edwards. 18.) Something strange is going on out there beyond ordinary reality.
2) Thanks for clarifying.
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6) They allowed the Scots in!!  Seriously there doesn't seem to be anyone from outside Latin America or Europe there except the US. No one from Asia. [Checking I didn't realise there was a boycott from Africa OTL because of FIFA imposing an addition round of qualifying on them.]
12) Interesting and worrying. Some sort of sacrifice spell?
14) That's the problem with starting two world wars. You can make yourself rather unpopular.
15) Hell that is a big deal, even by DE standards.
16) That's the 2nd time Duncan has picked up that trophy.
18) That is definitely something when your talking about the DE universe, which is rather strange already. Didn't pick up before but any reason why its European and N American sorcerers reporting it? Is it not being detected elsewhere or simply sorcerers from elsewhere aren't being asked or are reporting to their own leadership?
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Post by simon darkshade on Sept 15, 2020 14:18:57 GMT
Answers on Answers: The May, June and July editions - Most assuredly. There won't be that much of an occupation as such from the invasion force, but they will be followed by a force after them with that mission. It makes little sense from a Dark Earth perspective to invade and destroy and then leave so that the enemy can come back. - The Home Championships are annual, whereas the Imperial Cup is biennial in a different part of the year. Travel from around the Commonwealth is somewhat aided by the development of supersonic air transports. - It won't be anything quite so drastic, but it will involve water, or specifically, water bombing... - The National Service situation is something I'll fully detail in the General Discussion thread, but it is a burden that must be borne at this time. This is a Britain that has effectively been at war for over 60 years with very little break. It might cause some resentment, but is seen generally as part of a man's life and duty just as much as wearing shorts at school. Britain, the United States, Canada, Australia and New Zealand all have similar arrangements, as well as the European states. It has gone past the stage of National Service being considered as an oddity or a Continental military being an exception. - Strengthening and maintaining the Merchant Navy is a strong priority of consecutive British governments and there has been a great deal of thought and study on how to maintain/protect Britain's relative economic position since 1945. - The Phantoms are built through licenced production by Hawker-Siddeley. For the other 4 British aviation groups: Vickers: Covered through very large guided weapons contracts, the Vickers Thunderbolt, Supermarine's advanced air superiority fighter project, the Supermarine TSR-2 and Excalibur naval strike bomber and Westland helicopters de Havilland: Guided weapons, rockets, the quite large de Havilland Tornado project, Handley-Page's bomber production, Shorts naval aircraft and transports and Bombardier's civilian aircraft Armstrong-Whitworth: Lots of engines, guided weapons, AW transports, the Gloster Lion attack fighter project and the Fairey Rotodyne, which is the group's crown jewel Bristol: The weakest of the companies, its current focus is on Bristol helicopters, jet engines, guided weapons, rockets and spacecraft, Martin-Baker ejection seats, Auster utility planes, Folland trainers, Miles experimental aircraft and the various civil/light aircraft built by Boulton-Paul, Beagle, Percival, Scottish Aviation and Hunting. The F-4 is one aircraft and not the end of the industry, but the British companies are still not too happy about it. - A most bemusing anecdote. It is correct that it is a case of the CIA not letting the USAF know what they don't think they need to know - I can neither confirm nor deny either of those guesses. - I was thinking of Stirling Moss going out with a win in 1967 or so. - Sukarno isn't irrational, but does believe in his destiny to lead Indonesia to greatness and regional dominance. - No, it won't be named HAL. Not at all... - Silver is a component in a very secret technological programme. - Whilst it would be very dangerous for Mexico to go actively hostile in its relations with its northern neighbour, relations are a fair bit different - Yes, he was passing through Smallville. - It is best to agree with the Soviets, at least from their point of view. - The Nixon Court will be very, very interesting... - The far right wasn't a factor then or now in Australia, but even as a curiousity, they will cop it. - US automotive companies will cope better with the Japanese for a few different reasons - I haven't countenanced including the Galactic Federation, but rather some of the more 'close to home' parts of the series. - My reference to traditionalism was directly referring to the works of Arthur Mee and H.E. Marshall, which weren't quite the flavour of the day for the 1960s and 1970s BBC - Quite fine. The French policy isn't quite the most efficient one, but the South Pacific is an insurance policy if the Sahara gets too politically difficult - Fewer Nazi war criminals get away with their crimes - Historically, the North Koreans made it in 1966. Here, the Chinese aren't in FIFA, Japan isn't really strong enough yet, India has more of a focus on cricket and other states are just too small. This was an era of European and South American dominance and that will only change slowly. - It is the consequence of a spell gone wrong, yes. - The Germans probably have a point in their complaints after this game, but the French are very, very chuffed. For a few days. - It is one of the biggest international deals and the subject of considerable competition. - Duncan Edwards does go down as the second best player of the decade - They notice it first because of some reverberations through the ley lines in their immediate neighbourhood... |
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Post by lordroel on Sept 15, 2020 14:20:52 GMT
July 16.) The Benelux contract is very, very big: 3500 Chieftains, 5000 FV-432s, 1240 125mm field guns and SP guns; 800 Marksman SPAAGs, 1600 Sharpshooter SPAAGs and 1000 PT.428 SAM systems; up to 80 Blue Water SRBMs and 240 extra Bloodhound SAM systems; and replacements for 174 Canberras, 324 Hunters, 237 Fairey Deltas, 78 Javelins and 74 Vixens in the form of 160 Vickers Thunderbolts, 320 de Havilland Tornados, 120 Fairey Delta IIs, 120 English Electric Lightnings and 160 Hawker-Siddeley Merlins. The FV-432s will be produced under licence in the Netherlands and Belgium, whilst 1500 tanks will be built in Britain over 3 years and 2000 in the Low Countries. That is a lot, almost the entire armed forces of the Netherlands and Belgium getting new toys to play with. |
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Post by simon darkshade on Sept 15, 2020 14:32:29 GMT
It basically modernizes their heavy divisions and air defence and replaces 1950s era jets. It does sound like a fair bit. The Belgians were looking to replace their 1568 Centurions (28 regiments of 56 tanks) and the Dutch their 1512 Centurions (27 regiments of 56 tanks).
Historically, the Dutch wanted 2079 AIFVs (815 built in the Netherlands) and the Belgians ordered 1039 (514 AIFV-B and 525 M113A-B) in the late 1970s for smaller armed forces than here.
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- wouldn't be anywhere near enough for a generation ship.
In this case its the spooks but the same lack of communications applies.
Could you post the abbreviated version or possibly PM me please if you prefer?
Seriously there doesn't seem to be anyone from outside Latin America or Europe there except the US. No one from Asia. [Checking I didn't realise there was a boycott from Africa OTL because of FIFA imposing an addition round of qualifying on them.]