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Post by lordroel on Jan 18, 2019 9:39:18 GMT
Where Are They Now? (1960)Horatio HornblowerAdmiral Sir Horatio Hornblower, 56, serves as Commander-in-Chief of the Mediterranean Fleet of the Royal Navy and is the chief contender for the position of Commander-in-Chief of Allied Forces in Southern Europe. Is this person related to Admiral of the Fleet Horatio Hornblower from the Napoleonic Wars.
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Post by simon darkshade on Jan 20, 2019 11:08:58 GMT
He is a descendant of the Napoleonic Hornblower; I included him as he is a character in a 1947 story I'm working on set in the Caribbean.
Looking ahead to the first half of the 1960s, Kennedy won't be assassinated and Reagan will rise to prominence in the 1964 election; Nixon being on the Supreme Court removes him from future calculations. I'm leaning towards a Barton Labour government coming to power in Britain in 1963 and a different Soviet leader rising to prominence, one who is young, dynamic and extremely efficient.
The Congo will continue to descend into chaos and problems, Vietnam is heating up, but with different leadership, ongoing French military aid and a broader level of Free World military support; as of 1961, there are 100 Australian, 100 Canadian, 1800 American and 480 British military advisors attached to the South Vietnamese Army. South America will be taking a different shift.
American military presence in Korea will end up being gradually scaled down, as there isn't the same need for US ground troops.
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Post by lordroel on Jan 20, 2019 11:19:18 GMT
The Congo will continue to descend into chaos and problems, Will we see something like the Katanga being formed in the Darkearth verse.
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Post by simon darkshade on Jan 20, 2019 11:33:47 GMT
Yes and no. Katanga Province is part of Rhodesia, but there is the definite possibility of some other parts of the Congo developing separatist movements.
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Post by stevep on Jan 20, 2019 12:11:42 GMT
Yes and no. Katanga Province is part of Rhodesia, but there is the definite possibility of some other parts of the Congo developing separatist movements.
Well overall that will be better for the people of Katanga and Rhodesia will be larger and richer but unfortunate that the Belgium Congo, which has already suffered so much, will continue to suffer.
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Post by simon darkshade on Jan 20, 2019 13:30:01 GMT
Indeed. Even without Katanga, the circumstances of the Congo are such that further conflict following independence is sadly quite probable. It is one of many Cold War battlefronts.
Africa as a whole is in for a mixed 1960s. Slower progress to independence on the one hand, but an accompanying absence of some of the post colonial coups and conflicts on the other. Idi Amin won't be coming to power in Uganda, for example.
The Belgians are reluctantly pulling the pin, the Portuguese are going to fight it out and the Swedes are working towards an orderly timetable for independence. France is at a crossroads regarding its West African holdings.
Britain is trying to work towards East and West African federations and is following a longer timetable, as envisaged in the 40s and 50s. Kenya's large white population is a complicating factor in plans for East Africa.
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Post by lordroel on Jan 22, 2019 4:39:39 GMT
The Belgians are reluctantly pulling the pin, the Portuguese are going to fight it out and the Swedes are working towards an orderly timetable for independence. France is at a crossroads regarding its West African holdings. I think of those three, the Swedes will have the best change to leave a stable democratic country in Africa when they leave.
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Post by simon darkshade on Jan 22, 2019 7:18:54 GMT
That is quite right. They have taken a very Swedish approach to their African holdings, which is the one part of their empire that is going to achieve independence anytime soon. The overwhelming majority of the Swedish Army and Royal Swedish Air Force is based on the defence of Scandinavia, but a certain number of vessels of the Royal Swedish Navy operate in support of their colonial holdings, typically one or two of their eight cruisers.
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Post by lordroel on Jan 25, 2019 13:45:23 GMT
That is quite right. They have taken a very Swedish approach to their African holdings, which is the one part of their empire that is going to achieve independence anytime soon. The overwhelming majority of the Swedish Army and Royal Swedish Air Force is based on the defence of Scandinavia, but a certain number of vessels of the Royal Swedish Navy operate in support of their colonial holdings, typically one or two of their eight cruisers. So other parts of the Swedish Empire that might go independent in the near future.
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Post by simon darkshade on Jan 27, 2019 4:12:32 GMT
Given that their other colonies consist of some Pacific and Caribbean islands and one of the Guianas, not very likely.
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Post by lordroel on Jan 27, 2019 8:48:44 GMT
Given that their other colonies consist of some Pacific and Caribbean islands and one of the Guianas, not very likely. And those Swedish colonies, do they also have large naval presences ore only some gunboats.
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Post by simon darkshade on Jan 27, 2019 22:43:55 GMT
The permanent presence amounts to a handful of small patrol boats. There are training cruises to the Caribbean every six months or so by one of the cruisers, combined with a Far Eastern cruise to the Pacific, which is building up assets in the Pacific for nuclear testing purposes.
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Post by lordroel on Jan 28, 2019 4:11:33 GMT
The permanent presence amounts to a handful of small patrol boats. There are training cruises to the Caribbean every six months or so by one of the cruisers, combined with a Far Eastern cruise to the Pacific, which is building up assets in the Pacific for nuclear testing purposes. Are there also locally raised regiments.
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Post by simon darkshade on Jan 28, 2019 11:00:48 GMT
The Swedish do not have any locally raised forces of note in the West Indies or South America. This was generally the rule for most smaller of the smaller colonial powers.
As of 1961, the Portuguese have a fully fledged Colonial Army, the British and French have highly developed colonial forces across the world and the Spanish have a small number of African troops. The KNIL is a largely Dutch force at this time.
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Post by lordroel on Jan 28, 2019 14:00:27 GMT
The Swedish do not have any locally raised forces of note in the West Indies or South America. This was generally the rule for most smaller of the smaller colonial powers. As of 1961, the Portuguese have a fully fledged Colonial Army, the British and French have highly developed colonial forces across the world and the Spanish have a small number of African troops. The KNIL is a largely Dutch force at this time. What do the Belgium have then in Congo.
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