Based on the idea of futurist - and from other forums i like to start he basic preparations and scen
Jul 5, 2018 10:51:32 GMT
Post by steffen on Jul 5, 2018 10:51:32 GMT
As decribed, Franz_Ferdinand take over the throne in 1916 because the "old kaiser" dies.
Sometimes in 1917 - i suggest summer1917 to move the start of the war just 3 years - he is killed by an serbian assasign in sarajewo
PLOT:
In 1914 he narrowly escaped such assassination attempt
and 3 years later he opens the monument for Potiorek, who get killed instead of him. Because no evidence is found and FF and Sophie escape untouched, no OTL war events folds on.
In the year 1914 we see:
- UK delivers the 2 battleships to the osman empire
- the osmans restart the connection of the Hedschasrailway to Mekka
- the bagdad-railway close its gaps in the taurus-mountain
- germany run into social troubles, because the SPD demand reforms
- Home rule blows up, fueled also by german weapon delivery to the Ulster group
- Russia gets more and more strikes, the pressure on the tsar rises
- france drop - in winter 1914 its 3-year-conscription, because the socialist government no longer accept it
- the germans (OTL) rise their Haber-Bosch-concept to industrial standards
- the austrian secret service find out that the black hand had tried to kill the heir apparent. This raise in october 14 the austrian pressure to end this in serbia.
in the year 1915 we see:
- with the irish civil war turning more and more bloody and more german weapons send to ireland things turn really ugly. The government fell, new elections are needed (date in july 1915)
- the germans also have troubles, the long needed and awaited reforms of the electoral system force the kaiser to give the parliament more rights (OTL the war also helped him to delay this - here - no war no chance to avoid it)
- the elections in UK get again a conservative government
- german-british negotiations continues about the portugies colonies. Some plans are made how it is parted, but nothing qualified.
- the german-british relationship is a bit better, also because the bagdad-railway has british partipition (1.6.1914)
- raising pressure from austrians worsen the relationship with serbia
- the german-british naval arrangement gets offical. Germany accept to build 60% of the ships the british have. This inoffically since 1912 running agreement have no positive effect on the public, because in it the antigerman media in UK is still heated, also the german media push UK into the "brutal slaughter of innocent irish babies"-corner. (i need my enemies in the right corner, otherwise it is to much a german wank)
- Molkte the younger dies - he is replaced by General von Falkenhayn. He rapidly try to modernize "everything" - because he need to make his "unreplaceable". One of his orders is to create 5 new scenarios for the army to deploy. One of this is an "east-first" approach, that was shelved in 1912.
in the year 1916
- the irish civil war ends, homerule is dead. Many irish leave ireland, because the are very disappointed. Others support the IRA and other terrorist groups
- french army modernisation take speed. More and more howitzers reach the army,
- the german fertilizer-production now has reached a level of independence - it is still raised because the german army rightfully claim that it need much more ammo in a new war (the allreay german superiority in ammo numbers is adressed)
- france also react to this and start to build up its ammo production (so the french shell crisis is reduced)
- after the bloody civil war the british start another reform of its army, they enlarge it (30%), but also try to remove political influence (here the negative example of officers not following orders have shocked the king and the leadership of the army)
- the russian army is used to crush strikes in Saint petersburg, but the morale of it is low. The pressure on the tsar raises
- italy is really upset that their battleship Leonardo-da-vinci sinks. THe italian, later also the french press blame austrian spies, even if they have nothing to do with the loss of the Battleship. The relationship between italy and austria-hungaria reach a new low, the german HQ now no longer calculate in case of war with italian forces. the "Drei-Kaiser-Alliance" is now also dead in the minds of the Generalstab
- USA: Wilson is not reelected in the presidental campagin. A republican is elected (Hughes get the presidental campagin)
in the year 1917:
- german conscription has reached "normal hights", this mean germany conscript now as much in percentage as the french had
- italy officaly end the alliance at 1.1.1917 Austria react with a modernisation of its border fortresses (Start in march-april 1917), no real fortress modernisation, but the border is generally inspected and older defence system get a lot trenches and wire, guns of greater calibre are moved to the italian border, esp. in the mountain region (nothing special)
- President Hughes start a large naval buildup-program, but not against germany (no war, so no wilsionian act) but to stop the japanese AND to outbuild the british. this take germany a bit out of the focus of the british press, some press war with the USA rises in the spring of 1917.
June 27th of 1917 - Franz Ferdinand and wive reach Sarajewo by train. He, his wive and 2 of his childs die in the assasination.
Another strike of the black hand.Unfortunatly for the serbians the assasins get catched alive.
At june 28th they confess (tortured) that Apis was behind that.
june 29th - the austrians demand ultimative that Apis is delivered to the austrians. But - similar to OTL - the serbians do play on time.
But - austrian agents - after the 1914-try much better organised - enter serbia and get him in belgrad at the 30th. They capture and remove him, presenting him at july 1st in vienna.
Serbia protests, russian diplomats in belgrad give full support to serbia. BAsically out of the nothing the crisis escalates.
july 5th Apis dies (tortured to death), but before he dies he offers his version of the truth - even dying he lies to the austrians. In his confession he claim that it was the serbian government that ordered the death of Franz Ferdinand.
july 6th. Kaiser Wilhem get informed about that and publicy give austria a blanco check for war against serbia. He is outraged.
In the afternoon the french and russian ambassador in serbia - informed by the serbian government that the claims by Apis are wrong (they are - but only partly, the serbian government had supported many terroristgroups, just NOT this one) give themself a defence order..
july 7th. The still shocked world public is puzzeled what happened. In the same time the tsar is forced to order general mobilisation, because otherwise the serbians get crushed.
july 8th: Austria declare war against serbia for killing the kaiser. In UK they still do not know what to do, but french diplomats make clear that they and russia will defend serbia.
In the same time germany learn about the russian mobilisation - themself declaring it. The chainreaction starts.
July 9th france mobilize generally. Italy do the same - but they tell the world that austria tricked the world.
July 10th the kaiser and the tsar try to stop a war between the two countries but fail.
Austrian forces shell Belgrad (the war had started here) National anger about the death of Franz Ferdinand turns the nation into war mood. Germany demand from france to stop their mobilisation (even with them allready mobilise against russia), but get no answer.
July 11th - germany declare war against russia.
July 12th - france declare war against germany, also serbia.
The world war begins
Differences to OTL:
germany has 1 army and 2 corps MORE ready to fight, its army is generally much stronger. But the french also have more howitzer (so they have a chance at all to break german defence lines), the russian army has - on paper beeing superior, but is absolutly not ready to fight.
The austrians - with Falkenhayn removing Moltke and Conrad von Hötzendorf beeing removed in 1916 by Franz-Ferndinand, organize their war much better - their second army strikes (early) against serbia (and fail), but the overall position is more on the defence, waiting for the germans.
These have 2 plans, one they now drop (through belgium) and one with russia first. IN this they send 4 armies at the german-french border, just striking around 20-40km at the border (they are offensive for some areas but lack the power to push to paris)
In the east they move also 4 armies, one as support for austria in galizia, 2 in eastprussia and one in silesia. Luxemburg is taken without delay.
Great britain in this scenario is in a problem, no belgium means they cannot rally their population as easy as OTL. On the other hand it is still clear that UK will join the war, maybe just 1 month later.
Belgium stay neutral, but ready to fight. (Against everybody).
Later more to it.
If one find failures please feel free to comment... it is a rough scenario....
Sometimes in 1917 - i suggest summer1917 to move the start of the war just 3 years - he is killed by an serbian assasign in sarajewo
PLOT:
In 1914 he narrowly escaped such assassination attempt
and 3 years later he opens the monument for Potiorek, who get killed instead of him. Because no evidence is found and FF and Sophie escape untouched, no OTL war events folds on.
In the year 1914 we see:
- UK delivers the 2 battleships to the osman empire
- the osmans restart the connection of the Hedschasrailway to Mekka
- the bagdad-railway close its gaps in the taurus-mountain
- germany run into social troubles, because the SPD demand reforms
- Home rule blows up, fueled also by german weapon delivery to the Ulster group
- Russia gets more and more strikes, the pressure on the tsar rises
- france drop - in winter 1914 its 3-year-conscription, because the socialist government no longer accept it
- the germans (OTL) rise their Haber-Bosch-concept to industrial standards
- the austrian secret service find out that the black hand had tried to kill the heir apparent. This raise in october 14 the austrian pressure to end this in serbia.
in the year 1915 we see:
- with the irish civil war turning more and more bloody and more german weapons send to ireland things turn really ugly. The government fell, new elections are needed (date in july 1915)
- the germans also have troubles, the long needed and awaited reforms of the electoral system force the kaiser to give the parliament more rights (OTL the war also helped him to delay this - here - no war no chance to avoid it)
- the elections in UK get again a conservative government
- german-british negotiations continues about the portugies colonies. Some plans are made how it is parted, but nothing qualified.
- the german-british relationship is a bit better, also because the bagdad-railway has british partipition (1.6.1914)
- raising pressure from austrians worsen the relationship with serbia
- the german-british naval arrangement gets offical. Germany accept to build 60% of the ships the british have. This inoffically since 1912 running agreement have no positive effect on the public, because in it the antigerman media in UK is still heated, also the german media push UK into the "brutal slaughter of innocent irish babies"-corner. (i need my enemies in the right corner, otherwise it is to much a german wank)
- Molkte the younger dies - he is replaced by General von Falkenhayn. He rapidly try to modernize "everything" - because he need to make his "unreplaceable". One of his orders is to create 5 new scenarios for the army to deploy. One of this is an "east-first" approach, that was shelved in 1912.
in the year 1916
- the irish civil war ends, homerule is dead. Many irish leave ireland, because the are very disappointed. Others support the IRA and other terrorist groups
- french army modernisation take speed. More and more howitzers reach the army,
- the german fertilizer-production now has reached a level of independence - it is still raised because the german army rightfully claim that it need much more ammo in a new war (the allreay german superiority in ammo numbers is adressed)
- france also react to this and start to build up its ammo production (so the french shell crisis is reduced)
- after the bloody civil war the british start another reform of its army, they enlarge it (30%), but also try to remove political influence (here the negative example of officers not following orders have shocked the king and the leadership of the army)
- the russian army is used to crush strikes in Saint petersburg, but the morale of it is low. The pressure on the tsar raises
- italy is really upset that their battleship Leonardo-da-vinci sinks. THe italian, later also the french press blame austrian spies, even if they have nothing to do with the loss of the Battleship. The relationship between italy and austria-hungaria reach a new low, the german HQ now no longer calculate in case of war with italian forces. the "Drei-Kaiser-Alliance" is now also dead in the minds of the Generalstab
- USA: Wilson is not reelected in the presidental campagin. A republican is elected (Hughes get the presidental campagin)
in the year 1917:
- german conscription has reached "normal hights", this mean germany conscript now as much in percentage as the french had
- italy officaly end the alliance at 1.1.1917 Austria react with a modernisation of its border fortresses (Start in march-april 1917), no real fortress modernisation, but the border is generally inspected and older defence system get a lot trenches and wire, guns of greater calibre are moved to the italian border, esp. in the mountain region (nothing special)
- President Hughes start a large naval buildup-program, but not against germany (no war, so no wilsionian act) but to stop the japanese AND to outbuild the british. this take germany a bit out of the focus of the british press, some press war with the USA rises in the spring of 1917.
June 27th of 1917 - Franz Ferdinand and wive reach Sarajewo by train. He, his wive and 2 of his childs die in the assasination.
Another strike of the black hand.Unfortunatly for the serbians the assasins get catched alive.
At june 28th they confess (tortured) that Apis was behind that.
june 29th - the austrians demand ultimative that Apis is delivered to the austrians. But - similar to OTL - the serbians do play on time.
But - austrian agents - after the 1914-try much better organised - enter serbia and get him in belgrad at the 30th. They capture and remove him, presenting him at july 1st in vienna.
Serbia protests, russian diplomats in belgrad give full support to serbia. BAsically out of the nothing the crisis escalates.
july 5th Apis dies (tortured to death), but before he dies he offers his version of the truth - even dying he lies to the austrians. In his confession he claim that it was the serbian government that ordered the death of Franz Ferdinand.
july 6th. Kaiser Wilhem get informed about that and publicy give austria a blanco check for war against serbia. He is outraged.
In the afternoon the french and russian ambassador in serbia - informed by the serbian government that the claims by Apis are wrong (they are - but only partly, the serbian government had supported many terroristgroups, just NOT this one) give themself a defence order..
july 7th. The still shocked world public is puzzeled what happened. In the same time the tsar is forced to order general mobilisation, because otherwise the serbians get crushed.
july 8th: Austria declare war against serbia for killing the kaiser. In UK they still do not know what to do, but french diplomats make clear that they and russia will defend serbia.
In the same time germany learn about the russian mobilisation - themself declaring it. The chainreaction starts.
July 9th france mobilize generally. Italy do the same - but they tell the world that austria tricked the world.
July 10th the kaiser and the tsar try to stop a war between the two countries but fail.
Austrian forces shell Belgrad (the war had started here) National anger about the death of Franz Ferdinand turns the nation into war mood. Germany demand from france to stop their mobilisation (even with them allready mobilise against russia), but get no answer.
July 11th - germany declare war against russia.
July 12th - france declare war against germany, also serbia.
The world war begins
Differences to OTL:
germany has 1 army and 2 corps MORE ready to fight, its army is generally much stronger. But the french also have more howitzer (so they have a chance at all to break german defence lines), the russian army has - on paper beeing superior, but is absolutly not ready to fight.
The austrians - with Falkenhayn removing Moltke and Conrad von Hötzendorf beeing removed in 1916 by Franz-Ferndinand, organize their war much better - their second army strikes (early) against serbia (and fail), but the overall position is more on the defence, waiting for the germans.
These have 2 plans, one they now drop (through belgium) and one with russia first. IN this they send 4 armies at the german-french border, just striking around 20-40km at the border (they are offensive for some areas but lack the power to push to paris)
In the east they move also 4 armies, one as support for austria in galizia, 2 in eastprussia and one in silesia. Luxemburg is taken without delay.
Great britain in this scenario is in a problem, no belgium means they cannot rally their population as easy as OTL. On the other hand it is still clear that UK will join the war, maybe just 1 month later.
Belgium stay neutral, but ready to fight. (Against everybody).
Later more to it.
If one find failures please feel free to comment... it is a rough scenario....
) and even if you find them, you need evidence that the evil hun was it.