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Post by jasonsnow on Apr 10, 2018 18:52:47 GMT
Currently, the world's population stands at around 7.6 billion people worldwide, 2.7 billion of them account for only two nations: India and China.
Even now, the world is having serious problems keeping up with such numbers. Back in 2010, according to the World Bank, the world's population stood around 6.8 billion. Over three-quarters of a billion people were born in a single decade, more than the total population in the 14th century. Widespread hunger, crowded cities, lack of healthcare and sanitation and extreme violence rocks the world, as a consequence of overpopulation in many world countries.
But here I ask: what if suddenly the world's population, literally tomorrow, jumped to 10 billion?!
2.2 new billion people suddenly appear. Of them, 50% will appear in China and India, or 25% each. That is, 880 million people for both of them. 30% (366 million) will be scattered around Africa, with special concentration around Nigeria and nearby nations. 10% (74 million) will be evenly distributed across the UN, and 5% (11 million) will be found in the US. The rest will be scattered worldwide.
What would happen now?
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Post by jasonsnow on Apr 10, 2018 18:53:52 GMT
Keep in mind this change will occur overnight. Authorities will have no previous warning nor time to prepare for this great calamity.
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Post by stevep on Apr 10, 2018 19:41:12 GMT
It would cause confusion and a lot of conflict and death. Those people have no immediate families, jobs, accommodation, etc. Do they even have clothing or any education? Also what age are they? If their newborn infants then I suspect many if not most in the 3rd world especially are likely to die quickly because there are no facility to support them. If their all healthy adults with knowledge of the language and culture of the region their appeared in then they have a chance but their still going to be total outsiders in that community and without jobs and accommodation will be a burden on that community and hence are likely to prompt resentment. In areas where there is already conflict and violence then thinks are likely to get worse but the newcomers are likely to fair badly given their lack of resources.
Basically the ASB responsible is probably going to cause at least a billion deaths in quick order and quite possibly many, many more.
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Post by jasonsnow on Apr 10, 2018 22:11:03 GMT
It would cause confusion and a lot of conflict and death. Those people have no immediate families, jobs, accommodation, etc. Do they even have clothing or any education? Also what age are they? If their newborn infants then I suspect many if not most in the 3rd world especially are likely to die quickly because there are no facility to support them. If their all healthy adults with knowledge of the language and culture of the region their appeared in then they have a chance but their still going to be total outsiders in that community and without jobs and accommodation will be a burden on that community and hence are likely to prompt resentment. In areas where there is already conflict and violence then thinks are likely to get worse but the newcomers are likely to fair badly given their lack of resources. Basically the ASB responsible is probably going to cause at least a billion deaths in quick order and quite possibly many, many more. Let's say they're your run-off-the-mill, unremarkably average people. In the case of China, they're regular Han Chinese citizens living perhaps in suburban environments, with basic education, perhaps with an engineering or public job. They're filling, nobody too remarkable. Of course they have clothing, otherwise it would make a very awkward situation. Think of it as if every nation worldwide took a few decades into the future population-wise, without being to concerned for demographic booms and whatnot. Obviously the planet is unprepared for such large-scale jump, otherwise this thread would be useless. Thoughts?
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Post by lordroel on Apr 11, 2018 3:42:04 GMT
Basically the ASB responsible is probably going to cause at least a billion deaths in quick order and quite possibly many, many more. Looking at the thread here i can come to only on conclusion, this is a mass death scenarios and i kinda do not like that, this forum is for scenarios that require some thought and can generate a discussion, not for figuratively throwing a bucket of blood on the wall. "mass death" scenarios are fine if they allow some actual thought. For example, scenarios like a alien invasion (ID4 ore World War III (Red Dawn) ore Earth taken over by zombies (Dawn of the Death and World War Z) are fine as it lets people talk about what aliens, war ore zombies might actually do to humanity, referring to the huge amounts of series, books and movies and so on that are already out there. While i am tempted to close this thread, i will allow this one to be open as a reminder but any future threads will be closed and the person who has posted this will get a advice ore warning not to post these type of things here again.
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Post by jasonsnow on Apr 11, 2018 14:23:12 GMT
Basically the ASB responsible is probably going to cause at least a billion deaths in quick order and quite possibly many, many more. Looking at the thread here i can come to only on conclusion, this is a mass death scenarios and i kinda do not like that, this forum is for scenarios that require some thought and can generate a discussion, not for figuratively throwing a bucket of blood on the wall. "mass death" scenarios are fine if they allow some actual thought. For example, scenarios like a alien invasion (ID4 ore World War III (Red Dawn) ore Earth taken over by zombies (Dawn of the Death and World War Z) are fine as it lets people talk about what aliens, war ore zombies might actually do to humanity, referring to the huge amounts of series, books and movies and so on that are already out there. While i am tempted to close this thread, i will allow this one to be open as a reminder but any future threads will be closed and the person who has posted this will get a advice ore warning not to post these type of things here again. Agreed. Okay, let's say that during the initial chaos a few million people die (that's horrible, but bear with me) The initial carnage lasts some few months, but authorities somehow are able to keep the situation from a total chaos.Temporary housing is provided, and rationing begins. Every indoors space available becomes housing, especially in urban China and US. During the initial disaster, businesses, residences and buildings are looted, there is anarchy on the streets and services are non-functional. This goes on for several weeks, causing many deaths worldwide. However, the international community is able to prevent a major breakdown of society and provide immediate relief. The UN has an emergency session meeting once the initial disaster stops. World governments agree to provide enough for the newly-arrived 2.2 billion people, setting up an international relief system and basic rationing for everybody. Commodities and unnecessary products are no longer produced, as every factory on Earth focuses on churning out food, water, and basic shelter for everybody. Lavish or ostentatious houses and residences are torn down, to make several blocky apartments throughout every space available, causing severe discontent amongst the high class and rich society. Soldiers and police guard the streets. Governments impose curfews and food tokens, giving a rise to international black markets. Major companies break down as their products are outlawed and the economy enters a near state of total war. Recreational places see their spaces used for housing people and producing resources. The result is a strange yet functional state of cooperation, as the Earth is picked dry of its resources and essential elements. In a few years, the world will go back to normal as every individual is incorporated into society. The world is able to hold 2.2 billion people, however, the immediate jump could be nearly disastrous. Nevertheless, humanity endured this time of crisis and come back swinging.
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Post by lordroel on Apr 11, 2018 14:26:32 GMT
Looking at the thread here i can come to only on conclusion, this is a mass death scenarios and i kinda do not like that, this forum is for scenarios that require some thought and can generate a discussion, not for figuratively throwing a bucket of blood on the wall. "mass death" scenarios are fine if they allow some actual thought. For example, scenarios like a alien invasion (ID4 ore World War III (Red Dawn) ore Earth taken over by zombies (Dawn of the Death and World War Z) are fine as it lets people talk about what aliens, war ore zombies might actually do to humanity, referring to the huge amounts of series, books and movies and so on that are already out there. While i am tempted to close this thread, i will allow this one to be open as a reminder but any future threads will be closed and the person who has posted this will get a advice ore warning not to post these type of things here again. Agreed. Okay, let's say that during the initial chaos a few million people die (that's horrible, but bear with me) The initial carnage lasts some few months, but authorities somehow are able to keep the situation from a total chaos.Temporary housing is provided, and rationing begins. Every indoors space available becomes housing, especially in urban China and US. During the initial disaster, businesses, residences and buildings are looted, there is anarchy on the streets and services are non-functional. This goes on for several weeks, causing many deaths worldwide. However, the international community is able to prevent a major breakdown of society and provide immediate relief. The UN has an emergency session meeting once the initial disaster stops. World governments agree to provide enough for the newly-arrived 2.2 billion people, setting up an international relief system and basic rationing for everybody. Commodities and unnecessary products are no longer produced, as every factory on Earth focuses on churning out food, water, and basic shelter for everybody. Lavish or ostentatious houses and residences are torn down, to make several blocky apartments throughout every space available, causing severe discontent amongst the high class and rich society. Soldiers and police guard the streets. Governments impose curfews and food tokens, giving a rise to international black markets. Major companies break down as their products are outlawed and the economy enters a near state of total war. Recreational places see their spaces used for housing people and producing resources. The result is a strange yet functional state of cooperation, as the Earth is picked dry of its resources and essential elements. In a few years, the world will go back to normal as every individual is incorporated into society. The world is able to hold 2.2 billion people, however, the immediate jump could be nearly disastrous. Nevertheless, humanity endured this time of crisis and come back swinging. So in 2050 when when should reach the 10 billion mark we will have more than 13 billion ore more, this planet will be crowded and some cities will become like mini version of Mega City one.
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Post by jasonsnow on Apr 11, 2018 14:37:19 GMT
Agreed. Okay, let's say that during the initial chaos a few million people die (that's horrible, but bear with me) The initial carnage lasts some few months, but authorities somehow are able to keep the situation from a total chaos.Temporary housing is provided, and rationing begins. Every indoors space available becomes housing, especially in urban China and US. During the initial disaster, businesses, residences and buildings are looted, there is anarchy on the streets and services are non-functional. This goes on for several weeks, causing many deaths worldwide. However, the international community is able to prevent a major breakdown of society and provide immediate relief. The UN has an emergency session meeting once the initial disaster stops. World governments agree to provide enough for the newly-arrived 2.2 billion people, setting up an international relief system and basic rationing for everybody. Commodities and unnecessary products are no longer produced, as every factory on Earth focuses on churning out food, water, and basic shelter for everybody. Lavish or ostentatious houses and residences are torn down, to make several blocky apartments throughout every space available, causing severe discontent amongst the high class and rich society. Soldiers and police guard the streets. Governments impose curfews and food tokens, giving a rise to international black markets. Major companies break down as their products are outlawed and the economy enters a near state of total war. Recreational places see their spaces used for housing people and producing resources. The result is a strange yet functional state of cooperation, as the Earth is picked dry of its resources and essential elements. In a few years, the world will go back to normal as every individual is incorporated into society. The world is able to hold 2.2 billion people, however, the immediate jump could be nearly disastrous. Nevertheless, humanity endured this time of crisis and come back swinging. So in 2050 when when should reach the 10 billion mark we will have more than 13 billion ore more, this planet will be crowded and some cities will become like mini version of Mega City one. We'll have to check other options then. This planet will become extremely crowded in a few decades, and this added jump of population may just be the last drop. Luckily, such a jump will pressure world governments to reach a solution, like making space colonies or underwater cities, things like that. Major cities like Tokyo, New York and Mexico City will reach over 120 million citizens, spanning several thousand square kilometers. Less land will be available for farming and producing resources. Places like the Amazon and the Congolese rainforest will be completely gone, meaning that rainforests may see extinction by this time. New technologies for making the desert and arid locations fertile, most importantly the Sahara and Australian deserts, in order to accommodate the growing population. We can expect an actual, real-life Moon colony or even various space stations by 2050, then.
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Post by lordroel on Apr 11, 2018 14:38:33 GMT
So in 2050 when when should reach the 10 billion mark we will have more than 13 billion ore more, this planet will be crowded and some cities will become like mini version of Mega City one. We'll have to check other options then. This planet will become extremely crowded in a few decades, and this added jump of population may just be the last drop. Luckily, such a jump will pressure world governments to reach a solution, like making space colonies or underwater cities, things like that. Major cities like Tokyo, New York and Mexico City will reach over 120 million citizens, spanning several thousand square kilometers. Less land will be available for farming and producing resources. Places like the Amazon and the Congolese rainforest will be completely gone, meaning that rainforests may see extinction by this time. New technologies for making the desert and arid locations fertile, most importantly the Sahara and Australian deserts, in order to accommodate the growing population. We can expect an actual, real-life Moon colony or even various space stations by 2050, then. I wonder how the environment will coop with a sudden 10 billion population.
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Post by jasonsnow on Apr 11, 2018 16:27:59 GMT
We'll have to check other options then. This planet will become extremely crowded in a few decades, and this added jump of population may just be the last drop. Luckily, such a jump will pressure world governments to reach a solution, like making space colonies or underwater cities, things like that. Major cities like Tokyo, New York and Mexico City will reach over 120 million citizens, spanning several thousand square kilometers. Less land will be available for farming and producing resources. Places like the Amazon and the Congolese rainforest will be completely gone, meaning that rainforests may see extinction by this time. New technologies for making the desert and arid locations fertile, most importantly the Sahara and Australian deserts, in order to accommodate the growing population. We can expect an actual, real-life Moon colony or even various space stations by 2050, then. I wonder how the environment will coop with a sudden 10 billion population. Yeah... that's the bad bit. Contamination will reach a disastrous level of severity. Every major water body, including lakes, rivers, oceans and seas, will be completely full of trash and unable to harbor life. Forests, jungles and natural spaces, completely ravaged by contamination, dry and dead. 99% of all wild species will go extinct, leaving only the useful, domesticated species such as cows, pigs and chickens. The enormous amount of trash and waste covers an area the size of Europe, littered around the seas, mountains and valleys. Air contamination is such, humans would need to live using respiration devices, or within domed cities, until the technology allows to genetically-modify humans to breathe contaminated air. It will be a shame, and the planet will become unlivable soon enough.
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Post by lordroel on Apr 11, 2018 16:33:16 GMT
I wonder how the environment will coop with a sudden 10 billion population. Yeah... that's the bad bit. Contamination will reach a disastrous level of severity. Every major water body, including lakes, rivers, oceans and seas, will be completely full of trash and unable to harbor life. Forests, jungles and natural spaces, completely ravaged by contamination, dry and dead. 99% of all wild species will go extinct, leaving only the useful, domesticated species such as cows, pigs and chickens. The enormous amount of trash and waste covers an area the size of Europe, littered around the seas, mountains and valleys. Air contamination is such, humans would need to live using respiration devices, or within domed cities, until the technology allows to genetically-modify humans to breathe contaminated air. It will be a shame, and the planet will become unlivable soon enough. So you say 2.7 billion but you have not said what background they have like education, skills, age, sex ore so on, that also helps discusion in this thread.
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Post by jasonsnow on Apr 11, 2018 18:46:23 GMT
Yeah... that's the bad bit. Contamination will reach a disastrous level of severity. Every major water body, including lakes, rivers, oceans and seas, will be completely full of trash and unable to harbor life. Forests, jungles and natural spaces, completely ravaged by contamination, dry and dead. 99% of all wild species will go extinct, leaving only the useful, domesticated species such as cows, pigs and chickens. The enormous amount of trash and waste covers an area the size of Europe, littered around the seas, mountains and valleys. Air contamination is such, humans would need to live using respiration devices, or within domed cities, until the technology allows to genetically-modify humans to breathe contaminated air. It will be a shame, and the planet will become unlivable soon enough. So you say 2.7 billion but you have not said what background they have like education, skills, age, gender ore so on, that also helps discusion in this thread. They're random people, nobody too exceptional. Depends where they appear. For example, someone new from India may be a regular Tamil farmer folk living in a rural village in Western India, without much education nor skills apart from farming. It depends on the racial diversity of the country they're on. For example, 91.5% of China's population are ethnic Han Chinese, so 91.5% of the people that appear in China will be Han Chinese. Since they're slightly more men than woman worldwide, perhaps 48.9% of the 2.7 billion will be woman, and the rest will be males. Education also depends on the country. Few people are professionally educated in Zimbabwe, for example, so few new people in Zimbabwe will have professional education. It is proportional to the country they appear on on every sense.
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Post by lordroel on Apr 11, 2018 18:49:13 GMT
So you say 2.7 billion but you have not said what background they have like education, skills, age, gender ore so on, that also helps discusion in this thread. They're random people, nobody too exceptional. Depends where they appear. For example, someone new from India may be a regular Tamil farmer folk living in a rural village in Western India, without much education nor skills apart from farming. It depends on the racial diversity of the country they're on. For example, 91.5% of China's population are ethnic Han Chinese, so 91.5% of the people that appear in China will be Han Chinese. Since they're slightly more men than woman worldwide, perhaps 48.9% of the 2.7 billion will be woman, and the rest will be males. Education also depends on the country. Few people are professionally educated in Zimbabwe, for example, so few new people in Zimbabwe will have professional education. It is proportional to the country they appear on on every sense. So we have 2.7 billion people who do not exist and are homeless, that is going to be a burden to many poor countries.
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Post by jasonsnow on Apr 11, 2018 19:49:34 GMT
They're random people, nobody too exceptional. Depends where they appear. For example, someone new from India may be a regular Tamil farmer folk living in a rural village in Western India, without much education nor skills apart from farming. It depends on the racial diversity of the country they're on. For example, 91.5% of China's population are ethnic Han Chinese, so 91.5% of the people that appear in China will be Han Chinese. Since they're slightly more men than woman worldwide, perhaps 48.9% of the 2.7 billion will be woman, and the rest will be males. Education also depends on the country. Few people are professionally educated in Zimbabwe, for example, so few new people in Zimbabwe will have professional education. It is proportional to the country they appear on on every sense. So we have 2.7 billion people who do not exist and are homeless, that is going to be a burden to many poor countries. That's the issue. You'll suddenly have thousands, if not millions of newly arrived citizens without a place to stay. The "Initial Chaos" will probably bring several poor and unprepared nations to their downfall. Anarchy, violence and destruction will reign wildly across Southeast Asia, Africa and some Latin American nations. You can expect some nations to stop existing as a functional government, forcing powerful nations to provide assistance and combat criminals.
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