Vichy France ISOT

Chaos for one thing.

Feeling tired/lazy so cut and paste my reply on another site. Apologies


Well a lot of southern France and a vast area of Africa, along with FIC, Syria/Lebanon and assorted island positions have been thrown back 40 years so a lot of chaos and loss of facilities. I can see France [1980] possibly aided by NATO allies quickly overrunning the Vichy home territories. This then leave the problem of what to do with assorted Vichy politicians, officials and the like. Including points like can you charge people with murders and other crimes they haven't done yet?? [Probably not under the law but its going to be awkward having assorted pro-fascist figures running around free]. On the plus side a number of the victims of the regime are going to be alive. A further complication is that some people now live twice with people from Vichy 40 having older versions from 80. Also some secrets from the war may emerge including possibly some 'heroes' being discredited.

Since this is at the tail end of the cold war, with about a decade to run, do the Soviets try anything, either in Europe or possibly some of the colonies.

In N Africa I wonder whether Gaddafi could try 'liberating' some or all of French N Africa and if he does then what does the west do? They have the strength to oppose him but it is likely to be painted as supporting a colonial regime. You might see other areas try and secure parts of French African colonies. There is still a substantial French colonial population in Algeria especially and also the 1980 people will know about things such as oil and gas resources in Algeria especially.

I think there could be quite a large chance of China invading FIC to 'liberate' it and secure Vietnam as a pro-Chinese rather than a pro-Soviet satellite. Given recent history in the region I can't see western intervention here, although it could cool the warming of relations between China and the west.

Not quite sure what will happen with Syria and Lebanon? Jordan is likely to stay well out of things but Iraq, which hasn't started the invasion of Iran yet, might see Syria as an easier gain, especially as it would give a markedly higher Sunni proportion in such a combined state, Israel would be likely to intervene in such a case and not sure what Turkey would do.

A lot of the rest of the French empire, scattered islands in the Caribbean and Pacific are still parts of France in 1980 so France would probably be excepted as the governing power and would have the task of developing them to modern [i.e. 1980] standards along with the former Vichy area.

One other point that occurs. Morocco in 1975 occupied the former Spanish Sahara, which the local population resisted. Now you will have 1980 Moroccan forces and some civil servants and settlers fighting local rebels and alongside the 1940 French colonial Morocco. Not sure what will happen there.

Basically saying the same as Lordroel but with a lot more words.