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Post by James G on Feb 27, 2018 22:07:28 GMT
A short update but not much more needs to be said on this as it is so important
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November 1980:
Ted Kennedy won on November 4th.
He beat Reagan in the general election and would be the next President of the United States to replace Ford. Once the final votes were in, there would be a transitionary period in the American government. President-elect Kennedy would have to wait to formally enter the White House and take up the reins of government. During that time, some things were going to happen abroad by those taking advantage of this situation where America wasn’t helpless and would still defend her direct interests, yet not necessarily willing and able to do what it normally might do elsewhere with regards to other interests.
These were interesting times indeed.
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Post by lordroel on Feb 28, 2018 3:50:49 GMT
A short update but not much more needs to be said on this as it is so important(48)November 1980: Ted Kennedy won on November 4th. He beat Reagan in the general election and would be the next President of the United States to replace Ford. Once the final votes were in, there would be a transitionary period in the American government. President-elect Kennedy would have to wait to formally enter the White House and take up the reins of government. During that time, some things were going to happen abroad by those taking advantage of this situation where America wasn’t helpless and would still defend her direct interests, yet not necessarily willing and able to do what it normally might do elsewhere with regards to other interests. These were interesting times indeed. Well this is a surprise.
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Post by James G on Feb 28, 2018 7:46:09 GMT
A short update but not much more needs to be said on this as it is so important(48)November 1980: Ted Kennedy won on November 4th. He beat Reagan in the general election and would be the next President of the United States to replace Ford. Once the final votes were in, there would be a transitionary period in the American government. President-elect Kennedy would have to wait to formally enter the White House and take up the reins of government. During that time, some things were going to happen abroad by those taking advantage of this situation where America wasn’t helpless and would still defend her direct interests, yet not necessarily willing and able to do what it normally might do elsewhere with regards to other interests. These were interesting times indeed. Well this is a surprise. It should be... but not either. Poland tonight.
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Post by lordroel on Feb 28, 2018 13:27:54 GMT
It should be... but not either. Poland tonight. Well I hope he has the bals to stand up to the Soviets.
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Post by lordbyron on Feb 28, 2018 18:21:07 GMT
What was Kennedy's electoral vote count (or what states did he win), James G? Is it like it was in the AH.com version of this story?
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Post by James G on Feb 28, 2018 19:34:26 GMT
It should be... but not either. Poland tonight. Well I hope he has the bals to stand up to the Soviets. There will be a game to be played out with this president. For most of that game, the other side will not want a war like he doesn't. When they do though, the events earlier in the game will come back to hurt his country. He will also have to stand up to Cuba, Nicaragua, Libya, Iraq, North Korea and others while upsetting allies - the UK but also the rest of NATO - as well.
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Post by James G on Feb 28, 2018 19:36:46 GMT
What was Kennedy's electoral vote count (or what states did he win), James G? Is it like it was in the AH.com version of this story? To be honest, I haven't plotted it out any more than Kennedy winning California. That said, I will do something and post it before the end of the weekend - a lot to write - and that will include the full deal: popular vote, electoral count and even a red-and-blue map too. Just give me a couple of days. PM me if you have any ideas though for as said, I only have 'California' in my head.
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Post by James G on Feb 28, 2018 19:37:52 GMT
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November 1980:
Ustinov had ordered an emergency test of the Soviet Union’s conventional warfighting capabilities back in September with a no-notice mobilisation drill sent to the command staffs of the Baltic, Belorussian, Carpathian and Kiev Military Districts (those on the western borders) as well as a drill for Groups of Forces spread across Eastern Europe as well. The results had been rather disappointing. Even after the debacle which was the for-real mobilisation late last year in the Trans-Caucasus and Turkestan Military Districts – where commanders had been fired and there had been major staff replacements there – those elsewhere in the Soviet military hadn’t gotten the message that there were to be no more lies and they needed to get their house in order. Ustinov had done this in reaction to the ongoing events in Poland and believed that the results wouldn’t be that bad; he had even resisted the urge to ‘cheat’ by giving some forewarning of what was coming so he could really see afterwards where the problems were. Those problems were everywhere. If the alert had been for real, if NATO had attacked and sent West German panzers along with American fighter-bombers eastwards… That didn’t bare thinking about. He hadn’t been happy. Neither had been his Politburo comrades. The falsified readiness reports, the no-shows with staff officers and the lies told for so long about practised mobilisations had all seen those found guilty in subsequent court martials punished harshly.
The Politburo had wanted this done because at that time there was the need to see if it was possible to go into Poland with Soviet troops and correct the issues there with a country on strike. Ustinov hadn’t been eager to see that happen and neither had Andropov either who didn’t think it would work. Others had believed that it was best to see if it had been possible and to also tighten the screws on the Polish government as well by letting them know that the Soviet Union was serious. Ustinov had previously been to Poland himself, to ‘inspect’ Soviet troops there, and the news of the mobilisation was passed onto the Poles… though not its failures, naturally. Still, even with that and all that the KGB was doing inside Poland to eliminate those behind the troubles in creative manners, the situation there hadn’t been resolved. Warsaw’s current politicians couldn’t fix the problem. A different solution was tried in the end, once the Americans had had their sham election, one which didn’t involve compromising with the demands from counterrevolutionaries nor using Soviet troops to impose Moscow’s will. Poles would deal harshly with Poles instead.
A few days after the US presidential election it began in earnest. Poland saw a change of government late on the Friday night with Geirek and his own politburo detained by Polish soldiers following KGB guidance. The disgraced Stanisław Kociołek made a return, supported by the guns of troops directly under the command of generals Jaruzelski and Siwicki. Kociołek was infamous in Poland for how he had dealt with striking workers years beforehand and the only viable Pole to do what needed to be done as far as Moscow was concerned; the two generals were political soldiers who had ambitions above their station but would following guidance from the Soviet Union.
The bloodless coup d’état was followed by a weekend of consolidating power by the new regime using the weekend as cover when those subject to arrest were at home and the strikers weren’t involved in their at-work sit-in. Resistance to the change in government was near non-existent, especially since very few people knew what was going on. Then came the Monday morning when the workers across Poland on strike – close to forty per cent of them by now – showed up to their places of work to continue their protests. ZOMO riot police, ORMO communist party militia and also Polish Armed Forces soldiers in the background moved against them preceded by Polish intelligence officers. Examples were made. Trouble was sought. There were too many strikers and not enough armed men to take them on, plus likely other civilians who would probably get involved. The attacks by the state on their own people were targeted. Factories around Warsaw, the shipyards on the Baltic coast and the coal mines in Silesia were where the peaceful protests were made no longer peaceful. It was a day of bloody violence. Cordons of soldiers stayed back to surround areas where they knew nothing of which was going on inside as hyped-up militia and professional head-crackers went to work. The 10th of November was a bloody day indeed. So was the next day too, elsewhere in the country at other selected sites. It was then that the newspapers and state television & radio informed the country of the new leader of their nation. Promises were made by Kociołek to the Polish people – vague ones though – of a new way of doing things with the Polish state which included wage increases and the lowering of prices on many necessities. Further job opportunities were announced to help build a ‘new Poland’ and Kociołek asked his people to support and aid him in that. There was no mention made of the crackdown taking place that was coming with a great loss of life. Word-of-mouth would let the people know about that, including lies spread about what had happened to induce fear but also obedience in the Polish people.
As can be expected, there were reactions outside Poland. Ford condemned the self-coup and denounced the violence with American intelligence picked up the details of (though not exactly what occurred as the KGB had been busy muddling the waters) almost straight away. Kennedy had something to say too, as did other American politicians. Across Western Europe, leaders were outraged at what they were hearing. Attention was focused upon Warsaw though and Kociołek. Condemnation of Moscow, which was behind this, came second as the new Polish leader was the face of it all and already a known quantity as someone with a history like he had.
However, from Rome, Pope John Paul II didn’t follow the lead set by those politicians. No, instead he laid the blame for the events in his native land with the Soviet leadership. He made quite a big deal out of it as well with no intention of talking about it once and then moving on. Just as he wanted them to be, his words were heard in Moscow.
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Post by James G on Feb 28, 2018 20:50:32 GMT
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December 1980:
Castro took the opportunity to act as well during the lame-duck period of the last months of Ford’s rule. The belief in him was that actions such as the ones he took wouldn’t be punished by the incoming Kennedy Administration as long as they took place before January 20th. It was another risk in a long line of recent risks. Castro kept getting away with it and was determined to keep pushing the norteamericanos as far as possible. He told his brother and the few others he chose to explain himself too – plus Moscow’s frequent enquires – that he was only maintaining Cuba’s security in doing this and not out to start World War Three.
At home, Castro ordered a nationwide crackdown on all forms of dissent. This had been ongoing all year in various forms including those invasions of embassy grounds but also protests against his government’s policies. These had been dealt with using a softly-softly approach while Castro was distracted by Nicaragua then Guatemala as well as still recovering for the wounds from the attempted assassination by Somoza. He had had enough though. There were those in the streets but also those in his government who he decided were against him… even if they didn’t fully realise that themselves. They would move against his rule in the end if he allowed them to escape his ire and the time was right to strike first, especially with his opponents off-guard thinking he was weak. The crackdown took place over the space of a week with care taken to get the ‘big fish’ first and then move down the chain. It wasn’t as if there was much opportunity for armed resistance nor the ability to escape from Cuba. Cuba was a police state too with the authorities knowing who and where those targeted for arrest could be found. Cuba’s jails were to be filled.
Abroad, Castro sent troops to Guatemala. Assistance was required from the new regime there in bringing a final end to the power of the Guatemalan Army. That organisation’s wings had been clipped yet its craws were possibly soon to be drawn if the rumblings heard by spies in the pay of the EGP government were correct. An uneasy truce in that country, with the recent history of violence, couldn’t be maintained. The numbers sent weren’t that large but the important bit was to send them to the right places against the right people who had no ability to stop their arrival. There was only a little fighting in Guatemala when it came to that. The Guatemalan Army was actually weaker than thought since the end of the civil war and in no state to resist the mass arrest of officers taking place by junior men supported by Cubans. The detainees weren’t locked up by their own countrymen but instead the Guatemalans took the same approach as the Nicaraguans had done in shooting them en mass. This time Castro didn’t complain for he had seen how well that was working out for Ortega in helping build a new army when starting from scratch. Guatemala was drawn fully now in the Cuban sphere in Latin America alongside Nicaragua as well as Grenada too.
Across there on that little island, Castro sent more soldiers. These weren’t combat troops but rather engineers and construction soldiers. The progress on the big airport being built was accelerated. Work would begin too on port facilities as well. There was still the façade of these being civilian works for the benefit of the people. In reality though, the airport and the harbours under construction were there for military usage. In Grenada, just like elsewhere, the Americans hadn’t lifted a finger to stop Castro before so he carried on as he continued enhancing Cuba’s security in this manner.
[End of Part I]
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Post by James G on Feb 28, 2018 20:51:13 GMT
Part II - the years 1981, 82, 83 - begins tomorrow.
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Post by lordroel on Mar 1, 2018 4:36:51 GMT
Part II - the years 1981, 82, 83 - begins tomorrow. Nice, cannot wait to see how the world keeps spinning towards doom.
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Post by stevep on Mar 1, 2018 11:41:51 GMT
Nasty events in Poland and that last bit, sounds like someone in Rome is going to have an unfortunate 'accident'. Which could have dramatic consequences if the KGB mess things up.
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Post by lukedalton on Mar 1, 2018 13:50:35 GMT
Nasty events in Poland and that last bit, sounds like someone in Rome is going to have an unfortunate 'accident'. Which could have dramatic consequences if the KGB mess things up. Well, not that OTL things had gone smoothly, the only reason that the official investigation had not gone very deep was that once you pin the Bulgarians for the attack...you also quickly get the Russian as the Henry VIII of the piece; if the Pope it's killed not only they had created a martyr (and Poland will probably explode) but i doubt that any investigation will be more contained as a wounded but surviving Pope is a thing, a dead one it's another. At least in Italy there will be a crackdown and backlash against terrorism not seen by the Moro assasination
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Post by lordroel on Mar 1, 2018 14:45:46 GMT
Nasty events in Poland and that last bit, sounds like someone in Rome is going to have an unfortunate 'accident'. Which could have dramatic consequences if the KGB mess things up. You mean something like Pope John Paul II assassination attempt in 1981
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Post by James G on Mar 1, 2018 17:42:32 GMT
I have nothing in my notes beyond 'Pope' when it comes to this matter. It's important to the story but how to play it in and the consequences at once and later matter. I need a lot of thinking. What happens won't be the same as OTL though.
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