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Post by pats2001 on Jun 9, 2017 19:04:18 GMT
Let's say a disgruntled Confederate citizen takes it into his head to whack Jefferson Davis in late 1862 or early 1863. How does Davis' untimely demise charge the subsequent trajectory of the American Civil War?
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Post by lordroel on Jun 9, 2017 19:36:29 GMT
Let's say a disgruntled Confederate citizen takes it into his head to whack Jefferson Davis in late 1862 or early 1863. How does Davis' untimely demise charge the subsequent trajectory of the American Civil War? That would mean Alexander H. Stephens will become the 2nd President of the Confederate States of America.
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Post by stevep on Jun 9, 2017 21:24:26 GMT
Let's say a disgruntled Confederate citizen takes it into his head to whack Jefferson Davis in late 1862 or early 1863. How does Davis' untimely demise charge the subsequent trajectory of the American Civil War? It would probably depend on the exact circumstances. I.e. what date exactly and the motives of the assassin. If their a supporter of the north and opponent of succession it would probably harden the desire to fight to for seccession. If someone who has a particular bug with Davis then the impact is likely to be different. Being hit by some fire-eater who finds him too moderate would also have probable influence. From his Wiki entry Stephens was a distinctly reluctant rebel so he might seek some peace agreement with the north, although especially if after Gettsburg, this might not be welcomed in Washington. He also repeatedly criticised Davis on things like the latters imposition of conscription and suspension of habeas corpus amongst other things. As such you might see an earlier end to the war one way or another, unless he proved a significantly better leader than Davis. Not sure what he would be like in selecting generals and commanders and how well or not he would deal with political infighting between military figures and similarly between assorted regional politicial figures.
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Post by lordroel on Jun 9, 2017 21:30:14 GMT
Let's say a disgruntled Confederate citizen takes it into his head to whack Jefferson Davis in late 1862 or early 1863. How does Davis' untimely demise charge the subsequent trajectory of the American Civil War? It would probably depend on the exact circumstances. I.e. what date exactly and the motives of the assassin. If their a supporter of the north and opponent of succession it would probably harden the desire to fight to for seccession. If someone who has a particular bug with Davis then the impact is likely to be different. Being hit by some fire-eater who finds him too moderate would also have probable influence. From his Wiki entry Stephens was a distinctly reluctant rebel so he might seek some peace agreement with the north, although especially if after Gettsburg, this might not be welcomed in Washington. He also repeatedly criticised Davis on things like the latters imposition of conscription and suspension of habeas corpus amongst other things. As such you might see an earlier end to the war one way or another, unless he proved a significantly better leader than Davis. Not sure what he would be like in selecting generals and commanders and how well or not he would deal with political infighting between military figures and similarly between assorted regional politicial figures. Also the Trent affair has happen so the British will not join the Confederacy, even Alexander H. Stephens as 2nd President of the Confederate States of America will be able to change that.
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Post by stevep on Jun 10, 2017 23:19:12 GMT
It would probably depend on the exact circumstances. I.e. what date exactly and the motives of the assassin. If their a supporter of the north and opponent of succession it would probably harden the desire to fight to for seccession. If someone who has a particular bug with Davis then the impact is likely to be different. Being hit by some fire-eater who finds him too moderate would also have probable influence. From his Wiki entry Stephens was a distinctly reluctant rebel so he might seek some peace agreement with the north, although especially if after Gettsburg, this might not be welcomed in Washington. He also repeatedly criticised Davis on things like the latters imposition of conscription and suspension of habeas corpus amongst other things. As such you might see an earlier end to the war one way or another, unless he proved a significantly better leader than Davis. Not sure what he would be like in selecting generals and commanders and how well or not he would deal with political infighting between military figures and similarly between assorted regional politicial figures. Also the Trent affair has happen so the British will not join the Confederacy, even Alexander H. Stephens as 2nd President of the Confederate States of America will be able to change that. I suppose as an outside possibility Stephens, if rebuffed by Lincoln might ask Britain to offer its mediation to end the conflict, possibly with some sort of reunion but protection of rights for slavery in the rebel states. Suspect Lincoln might well reject that as well. Still unlikely to bring war between Britain and the union but it might bring more international sympathy for the south and increase internal hostility to the war in the north. Which might or might not make a significant difference depending on how quickly things happen. Still very likely to see the south defeated in such a scenario but it might take a bit longer and be a bit bloodier.
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Post by lordroel on Jun 11, 2017 2:49:03 GMT
Also the Trent affair has happen so the British will not join the Confederacy, even Alexander H. Stephens as 2nd President of the Confederate States of America will be able to change that. I suppose as an outside possibility Stephens, if rebuffed by Lincoln might ask Britain to offer its mediation to end the conflict, possibly with some sort of reunion but protection of rights for slavery in the rebel states. Suspect Lincoln might well reject that as well. Still unlikely to bring war between Britain and the union but it might bring more international sympathy for the south and increase internal hostility to the war in the north. Which might or might not make a significant difference depending on how quickly things happen. Still very likely to see the south defeated in such a scenario but it might take a bit longer and be a bit bloodier. I doubt that will happen, maybe without Davis as President of the Confederate States of America. the situation of the CSA might be worse that as it is under the leadership of Stephens.
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