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Post by stevep on Feb 26, 2017 20:57:07 GMT
Also I think most legions were pretty much self contained with a lot of skilled craftmen to make most/all of the equipment they use. Plus I think by Saxon times there were slightly improved metal-working practices [although could be wrong here] and the Saxons will know about the stirup and possibly other military advances. As such after a short period of uncertainty they should be fine in terms of equipment.
The problems would be political/religious. I.e. what is the nature of Harold's control over the legion. Baring some sort of mental enslavement they will want paying and maintaining such a permanent force, probably also along with the royal huscarls is going to be expensive and cause a lot of concern amongst all the Saxon nobles at least. Plus as mentioned earlier a pagan legion on 11thC Christian England is going to be difficult to put it mildly.
The idea of having the legion help to protect northern England against repeated Scottish attacks that plagued this period is potentially useful and they could help regain Lothian for England, as well as possibly bring Strathcylde into the English rather than the Scottish sphere. Which in the longer term could mean Scotland is basically no more powerful that Wales, so coupled with the lack of a Norman conquest could make the history of Britain a lot more peaceful, at least in the next couple of centuries. However the northern earls, who are Harold's major internal rivals, are not likely to apprciate their influence being reduced this way.
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Post by lordroel on Feb 26, 2017 21:15:34 GMT
Also I think most legions were pretty much self contained with a lot of skilled craftmen to make most/all of the equipment they use. Plus I think by Saxon times there were slightly improved metal-working practices [although could be wrong here] and the Saxons will know about the stirup and possibly other military advances. As such after a short period of uncertainty they should be fine in terms of equipment. You mean the Immunes who where trained specialists, such as surgeons, engineers, surveyors, and architects, as well as craftsmen.
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Post by stevep on Feb 27, 2017 23:55:23 GMT
Also I think most legions were pretty much self contained with a lot of skilled craftmen to make most/all of the equipment they use. Plus I think by Saxon times there were slightly improved metal-working practices [although could be wrong here] and the Saxons will know about the stirup and possibly other military advances. As such after a short period of uncertainty they should be fine in terms of equipment. You mean the Immunes who where trained specialists, such as surgeons, engineers, surveyors, and architects, as well as craftsmen. Probably, if that's what they were called. Vague memories from I think it was a book on the history of the legions in the imperial period plus some comments from some TV programmes. Many people just think of them as soldiers but as you say they have many other capabilities which often proved useful. Also while the 1066 world can probably teach them some lessons their much greater organisational skill, if it doesn't create too much opposition could really boost the economy in England in many ways. The idea of large scale factory production for instance, of concrete, new Roman roads, a formal system of law. Their familiarity with an imperial system could prove dangerous explosive given the rather decentralised nature of Anglo-Saxon England. Prompting a lot of opposition.
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Post by lordroel on Feb 28, 2017 8:53:19 GMT
You mean the Immunes who where trained specialists, such as surgeons, engineers, surveyors, and architects, as well as craftsmen. Probably, if that's what they were called. Vague memories from I think it was a book on the history of the legions in the imperial period plus some comments from some TV programmes. Many people just think of them as soldiers but as you say they have many other capabilities which often proved useful. Also while the 1066 world can probably teach them some lessons their much greater organisational skill, if it doesn't create too much opposition could really boost the economy in England in many ways. The idea of large scale factory production for instance, of concrete, new Roman roads, a formal system of law. Their familiarity with an imperial system could prove dangerous explosive given the rather decentralised nature of Anglo-Saxon England. Prompting a lot of opposition. Harold has to be careful, next he things he thinks that the legion was send to him in order to create a new Roman empire.
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