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Post by lordroel on Aug 27, 2016 8:34:37 GMT
With some minor changes these ships could serve with the Commonwealth Navy wich is probably so large that it could easy operate these 3 ships. Yes, but it is also so large and wealthy that it could easily just build dedicated carriers and battlecruisers which would be better at performing their respective tasks instead of having to go for a "master of none" hybrid. Also, they techincly already have battlecruiser-carriers, the two Razend-class rebuild battlecruisers. well that is true but reading the E-book, always love AH with the Netherlands in it, gives me plenty of things to talk about. So how many carriers does the Commonwealth have. |
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Post by eurowatch on Aug 27, 2016 8:51:31 GMT
Yes, but it is also so large and wealthy that it could easily just build dedicated carriers and battlecruisers which would be better at performing their respective tasks instead of having to go for a "master of none" hybrid. Also, they techincly already have battlecruiser-carriers, the two Razend-class rebuild battlecruisers. well that is true but reading the E-book, always love AH with the Netherlands in it, gives me plenty of things to talk about. So how many carriers does the Commonwealth have. To bad the Netherland is far to often cast as the "country that gets steamrolled by ebul empire so Murica has to liberate them". One of the reasons I left AH.com was becase that cliche annoyed me far to much. The Commonwealth has eleven fleet carriers, six light carriers and two armoured carriers. |
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Post by lordroel on Aug 27, 2016 8:55:20 GMT
well that is true but reading the E-book, always love AH with the Netherlands in it, gives me plenty of things to talk about. So how many carriers does the Commonwealth have. To bad the Netherland is far to often cast as the "country that gets steamrolled by ebul empire so Murica has to liberate them". One of the reasons I left AH.com was becase that cliche annoyed me far to much. The Commonwealth has eleven fleet carriers, six light carriers and two armoured carriers. Well i know how you feel, posted many timeline about the Netherlands doing much better but always got responds there, it aint possible so stop writing. Would think the Commonwealth would have more than those 19 carriers or is it still a battleship navy, do not tell me the Commonwealth has its own version of the OTL Japanese carrier versus battleship feud going one. |
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Post by eurowatch on Aug 27, 2016 9:09:03 GMT
To bad the Netherland is far to often cast as the "country that gets steamrolled by ebul empire so Murica has to liberate them". One of the reasons I left AH.com was becase that cliche annoyed me far to much. The Commonwealth has eleven fleet carriers, six light carriers and two armoured carriers. Well i know how you feel, posted many timeline about the Netherlands doing much better but always got responds there, it aint possible so stop writing. Would think the Commonwealth would have more than those 19 carriers or is it still a battleship navy, do not tell me the Commonwealth has its own version of the OTL Japanese carrier versus battleship feud going one. It might be because while People want Things to be different, they don't want Things to be to different. The Commonwealth has twenty-three Battleships and battlecruisers between them so while the pro-carrier faction is winning, the pro-Battleship faction is not going Down without a fight. Fortunantly the Dutch feud never got as bad as the German one, the arguments between the pro-carrier Goering and pro-Battleship Donitz got so so vicious that the president himself had to step in and make a comprimise. |
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Post by lordroel on Aug 27, 2016 9:16:01 GMT
Well i know how you feel, posted many timeline about the Netherlands doing much better but always got responds there, it aint possible so stop writing. Would think the Commonwealth would have more than those 19 carriers or is it still a battleship navy, do not tell me the Commonwealth has its own version of the OTL Japanese carrier versus battleship feud going one. It might be because while People want Things to be different, they don't want Things to be to different. The Commonwealth has twenty-three Battleships and battlecruisers between them so while the pro-carrier faction is winning, the pro-Battleship faction is not going Down without a fight. Fortunantly the Dutch feud never got as bad as the German one, the arguments between the pro-carrier Goering and pro-Battleship Donitz got so so vicious that the president himself had to step in and make a comprimise. Well that is one reason why i set up this forum in the first place, to give everybody a change to write timeline about any country they feel like with out being crucified by those who think you are wasting time. It was Erich Raeder vs. Hermann Göring first, Donitz was a submarine person more, also Göring held the position that “Everything that flies belongs to us!” thus he would be able to control somewhat of the navy, i hoop it is not the case in the Commonwealth Naval Aviation Service that is operated by the navy and not the air force. |
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Post by eurowatch on Aug 27, 2016 9:33:03 GMT
It might be because while People want Things to be different, they don't want Things to be to different. The Commonwealth has twenty-three Battleships and battlecruisers between them so while the pro-carrier faction is winning, the pro-Battleship faction is not going Down without a fight. Fortunantly the Dutch feud never got as bad as the German one, the arguments between the pro-carrier Goering and pro-Battleship Donitz got so so vicious that the president himself had to step in and make a comprimise. Well that is one reason why i set up this forum in the first place, to give everybody a change to write timeline about any country they feel like with out being crucified by those who think you are wasting time. It was Erich Raeder vs. Hermann Göring first, Donitz was a submarine person more, also Göring held the position that “Everything that flies belongs to us!” thus he would be able to control somewhat of the navy, i hoop it is not the case in the Commonwealth Naval Aviation Service that is operated by the navy and not the air force. I already answered that remember? The Air Force tried to take Control of the Naval Aviation Service, the carrier personal treathened to go on strike, the Ministry of Navy ruled against the Air Force and now the Navy doesn't trust the Air Force anymore. |
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Post by lordroel on Aug 27, 2016 9:37:02 GMT
Well that is one reason why i set up this forum in the first place, to give everybody a change to write timeline about any country they feel like with out being crucified by those who think you are wasting time. It was Erich Raeder vs. Hermann Göring first, Donitz was a submarine person more, also Göring held the position that “Everything that flies belongs to us!” thus he would be able to control somewhat of the navy, i hoop it is not the case in the Commonwealth Naval Aviation Service that is operated by the navy and not the air force. I already answered that remember? The Air Force tried to take Control of the Naval Aviation Service, the carrier personal treathened to go on strike, the Ministry of Navy ruled against the Air Force and now the Navy doesn't trust the Air Force anymore. But in war the two service need to work together, the air force has long range bombers and patrol aircraft the navy can use, is this distrust so deeply that they are not able to come to a agreement to work together when it is needed. |
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Post by eurowatch on Aug 27, 2016 9:47:55 GMT
I already answered that remember? The Air Force tried to take Control of the Naval Aviation Service, the carrier personal treathened to go on strike, the Ministry of Navy ruled against the Air Force and now the Navy doesn't trust the Air Force anymore. But in war the two service need to work together, the air force has long range bombers and patrol aircraft the navy can use, is this distrust so deeply that they are not able to come to a agreement to work together when it is needed. The two are able to work together, it is just that there is a lot of bad blood between them. This typically manifest in really spiteful actions, like the RAF supporting the RA's "China first" plan because then they didn't have to agree With the Navy. |
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Post by lordroel on Aug 27, 2016 9:50:29 GMT
But in war the two service need to work together, the air force has long range bombers and patrol aircraft the navy can use, is this distrust so deeply that they are not able to come to a agreement to work together when it is needed. The two are able to work together, it is just that there is a lot of bad blood between them. This typically manifest in really spiteful actions, like the RAF supporting the RA's "China first" plan because then they didn't have to agree With the Navy. Well because the Commonwealth is this universe version of the British Empire, and i would think the British would be a bigger version OTL Netherlands i can see your point as none of the service want to get the blame of not being able to work together when it is needed, it might get them fewer budget from the goverment i think. |
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Post by eurowatch on Sept 14, 2016 22:26:27 GMT
The two are able to work together, it is just that there is a lot of bad blood between them. This typically manifest in really spiteful actions, like the RAF supporting the RA's "China first" plan because then they didn't have to agree With the Navy. Well because the Commonwealth is this universe version of the British Empire, and i would think the British would be a bigger version OTL Netherlands i can see your point as none of the service want to get the blame of not being able to work together when it is needed, it might get them fewer budget from the goverment i think. The Dutch Commonwealth is basicly a Combination between the British Empire and the US. Britian is the local Soviet Union expy (although Sweden also has some Soviet traits) With a closer Netherlands parallel being either the local US or Canada. |
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Post by lordroel on Sept 14, 2016 23:30:04 GMT
Well because the Commonwealth is this universe version of the British Empire, and i would think the British would be a bigger version OTL Netherlands i can see your point as none of the service want to get the blame of not being able to work together when it is needed, it might get them fewer budget from the goverment i think. The Dutch Commonwealth is basicly a Combination between the British Empire and the US. Britian is the local Soviet Union expy (although Sweden also has some Soviet traits) With a closer Netherlands parallel being either the local US or Canada. Well it seems Japan behaves as much like Japan of OTL. |
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Post by eurowatch on Sept 14, 2016 23:33:34 GMT
The Dutch Commonwealth is basicly a Combination between the British Empire and the US. Britian is the local Soviet Union expy (although Sweden also has some Soviet traits) With a closer Netherlands parallel being either the local US or Canada. Well it seems Japan behaves as much like Japan of OTL. They are a bit more liberal in some areas. Let's just say some anime characters are going to be mentioned and leave it at that. |
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Post by lordroel on Sept 14, 2016 23:46:40 GMT
Well it seems Japan behaves as much like Japan of OTL. They are a bit more liberal in some areas. Let's just say some anime characters are going to be mentioned and leave it at that. Do i know them. |
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Post by eurowatch on Sept 15, 2016 9:55:16 GMT
They are a bit more liberal in some areas. Let's just say some anime characters are going to be mentioned and leave it at that. Do i know them. Yes. |
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Post by lordroel on Sept 15, 2016 14:49:36 GMT
Well i will have to wait then. |
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