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Post by spanishspy on Jul 6, 2016 16:57:59 GMT
Japan if they want to could also be a nuclear power so saying that they fighting one is not a issuse here, Japan also knows that they have the backing of the United states if Russia might use nuclear weapons on Japan. Can't Russia also defeat Japan in a conventional war, though? Conventionally? It depends on how Japan can control the sea and air - and the US would be backing them with their myriad bases in the country. |
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Post by stevep on Jul 6, 2016 18:59:17 GMT
Japan if they want to could also be a nuclear power so saying that they fighting one is not a issuse here, Japan also knows that they have the backing of the United states if Russia might use nuclear weapons on Japan. Can't Russia also defeat Japan in a conventional war, though? Given Japanese technology, the dubious state of the Russian forces at the time [think of their performance against the Chechans] and the fact the bulk of their forces are fighting NATO in the Ukraine I rather doubt it. |
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Post by spanishspy on Jul 6, 2016 20:05:16 GMT
Can't Russia also defeat Japan in a conventional war, though? Given Japanese technology, the dubious state of the Russian forces at the time [think of their performance against the Chechans] and the fact the bulk of their forces are fighting NATO in the Ukraine I rather doubt it. Also, I think most Russian forces are based in Europe. It would be an ordeal transporting them all. |
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Post by lordroel on Jul 7, 2016 3:07:16 GMT
What about China they could take Taiwan with the United States and Europe busy with dealing with "Novorossiya".
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Post by spanishspy on Jul 7, 2016 13:33:01 GMT
What about China they could take Taiwan with the United States and Europe busy with dealing with "Novorossiya". I doubt it. The US has fought a two front war before and has dominance of the Pacific. They wouldn't survive. |
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Post by lordroel on Jul 7, 2016 13:35:09 GMT
What about China they could take Taiwan with the United States and Europe busy with dealing with "Novorossiya". I doubt it. The US has fought a two front war before and has dominance of the Pacific. They wouldn't survive. Not cording to this report: U.S. Military No Longer Able to Fight Two Wars at Same Time |
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Post by spanishspy on Jul 7, 2016 13:36:27 GMT
As of now, no. But with a massive wartime industrialization? Most definitely. |
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Post by lordroel on Jul 7, 2016 13:50:14 GMT
As of now, no. But with a massive wartime industrialization? Most definitely. Wich takes time, the weapons of war these days can not be build as fast as they could during World War II, to much tech and such for it. |
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Post by spanishspy on Jul 8, 2016 15:52:50 GMT
As of now, no. But with a massive wartime industrialization? Most definitely. Wich takes time, the weapons of war these days can not be build as fast as they could during World War II, to much tech and such for it. I don't think so. We have automated production, which speeds things up significantly. And the highest tech wouldn't be deployed en masse. |
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Post by stevep on Jul 8, 2016 21:06:37 GMT
It can do if things are in place but its also going to be very expensive and take some time.
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Post by kubocaskett on Aug 6, 2016 2:05:04 GMT
As far as I know this kind of action will result in harsher sanctions and an instant acceleration into a Second Cold War of sorts; Putin would probably be rightly called out this kind of recklessness and I can imagine he would be losing fans faster than he has IOTL. Not to mention that it would very likely well make things worse for Europe as that the potential to spark a war between Russia and NATO would run very high.
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Post by lordroel on Aug 6, 2016 2:48:49 GMT
As far as I know this kind of action will result in harsher sanctions and an instant acceleration into a Second Cold War of sorts; Putin would probably be rightly called out this kind of recklessness and I can imagine he would be losing fans faster than he has IOTL. Not to mention that it would very likely well make things worse for Europe as that the potential to spark a war between Russia and NATO would run very high. Are we not already in a semi Cold War II. |
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Post by kubocaskett on Aug 6, 2016 2:56:04 GMT
As far as I know this kind of action will result in harsher sanctions and an instant acceleration into a Second Cold War of sorts; Putin would probably be rightly called out this kind of recklessness and I can imagine he would be losing fans faster than he has IOTL. Not to mention that it would very likely well make things worse for Europe as that the potential to spark a war between Russia and NATO would run very high. Are we not already in a semi Cold War II. We to be fair we kind of are (though it highly depends on who wins the US election of this year but I digress) but what I'm saying is that the Second Cold War ITTL would be more volatile in Europe and possibly in other parts of the world following a larger Russian intervention in the Ukraine conflict. Not that the SCW IOTL is barely tension filled mind you but still something that will forever shape the course of the 21st century. |
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