4 August 1914 - Poland of July 1930, Russia of June 1919 and Imperial Japan of 8 February 1905 ISOT
Oct 28, 2024 10:01:19 GMT
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Post by 575 on Oct 28, 2024 10:01:19 GMT
Oct 27, 2024 13:42:42 GMT 575 said:
Get moving - was to get the last of the four corps (GD Reserve of 2 Army, 11 of 3 Army both right wing, 21 of 6 Army and I added 5 Reserve of 5 Army) of which two and a cavalry division is on their way) moving.
German losses at the moment is the East Prussian 8. Army which is isolated in East Prussia along some Landwehr and Reserve brigades. The German Posen Reserve and Landwehr units have been overwritten due to the ISOT which would amount to something like two divisions.
Getting moved is ultimately the North Army in Schleswig-Holstein of one Corps and one Corps equivalent - infantrywise, and the mentioned four corps (OTL from the West Front which was taken one by one from one army each with two taken from the right wing swinging through Belgium into NE France. These have been ordered east prior to the capture of Liege so the right wing is weakened earlier but still the WF would contain some 21 corps.
Polish - Czarist officer alliance??? What have you been drinking? Though that may come around as the Entente isn't going to be able to support the Czarist Armies any longer - except in Vladivostok (will return to this). Poland may trade information for cooperation though I'm uncertain why they would do so. Didn't as far as I know OTL and the Poles did very well on their own - sort of. Ofc it would be nice to keep the Czarist's into the game for as long as possible to have a clear back - so possibly yes.
An alliance with the Entente will be wanted by the Poles - will be difficult to support them from the West materially - something will come up soon on that. The main issue for Poland would be to hold the Entente onto defeat of Germany ie. no seperate peace and Germany goes East following leaving A-L to France and Belgium to itself. Possible? I doubt it somewhat.
Polish may decry the Entente to USA, Japan and the Czarist Forces as well as anybody else wanting to listen - Czechs, Hungarians, Serbs, Greeks etc.
Well that will hurt in the western front although it might be mitigated somewhat by the lesser supply and logistical challenges of having less troops to support as they march deeper into allied territory. Could be that the Belgium coastal region and Antwerp isn't pressed anything like as much as it was OTL as the high command will probably still seek to concentrate on the key function of the strike towards Paris to force French surrender.
I'm not expecting any alliance with the Whites, especially given the bulk of their commanders seem to have been politically extremely reactionary. However I think it would make sense for the Poles to attempt some sort of political agreement as their both facing a common enemy in the communists. OTL the Poles had the other borders secure with Germany and Austria defeated and a fair amount of help from the French especially. Here their stronger, because of the 1930 date and not being in the chaos of largely building up a state in the middle of the aftermath of WWI but their also physically isolated from the west and facing a powerful if somewhat backwards imperial Germany as well as instability to the east and uncertainty elsewhere.
There is a good basis for an alliance, especially since neither group would want the other to make a separate peace with Germany as that would be very dangerous for them. There would be issues in that the 1914 west don't really know the state of this new Poland and hence its value, nor why their vital eastern ally is now in a chaotic civil war. Also for the Poles they would want an alliance only against Germany. They won't want to be dragged into war with Austria which the western powers might want given how isolated Serbia is here. Therefore there are issues that could prevent any alliance but if overcome I think it would be beneficial to both sides. Even a purely political alliance would help both parties while the allies, especially Britain has a lot of wealth and influence at this point which could be useful in aiding Poland.
I can't see Poland decrying the entente if any agreement fails as it doesn't seem to benefit them. It would anger the entente powers and also any attempt to appeal to groups in the Hapsburg empire would threaten the newly established peace agreement with them. The US, deep into isolationism and Japan, a decade further back than the rest of the world and interesting in securing its own regional interests would find such actions irrelevant. Also there should be some awareness that even if there's not an agreement Germany is a threat to both groups and possibly some sympathy for France given its aid in the struggle against the Soviets.
Forgot about Belgium - due to the sustained calls from Berlin for more Corps sent east Antwerp is still hold by the Belgians aided by the RN Division.
The independent minded German Army commanders is very much sticking to their plan of going east of Paris to bag the French armies but are still fooling around in Belgium and fighting the French counterattack on the borders and in the Ardennes.