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Post by lordroel on Feb 20, 2016 21:05:27 GMT
So from a idea i had for a future version of 1984 called 2084, this is a overpopulated, post-apocalyptice universe where three power blocs the Imperial States of Earth, Pacific-Atlantic Bloc and the Coalition of Free Nations exist, all people all three sides are observed closely due there be so many people living on Earth (the suggestion that the Coalition of Free Nations is a what it say free is not true as it is a military regime that is poor, paranoid all because it is the smallest of the three powers and afraid of being gobble up by the other two), the race in space is also going on, but neither of the three powers let many people of planet as they are afraid that they might rebel, and therefore Earth is overpopulated with all three sides having large infantry based armies (all 3 sides have enough grunts to send to the slaughter) with border skirmishes being the norm the a exception.
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Post by Morty Vicar on Mar 31, 2016 18:38:16 GMT
Could you outline a rough map? Would it be approximately the same as the 1984 map?
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Post by lordroel on Mar 31, 2016 19:42:26 GMT
Could you outline a rough map? Would it be approximately the same as the 1984 map?
I will try, lest see, the Pacific-Atlantic Bloc consist of the USA, Canada, Mexico all down to Panama, New Zealand, Australia, Greenland, United Kingdom, Iceland, Norway, Portugal and Spain. The Imperial States of Earth consist of the Benelux, France, the Balkan nations, Germany, Sweden, Finland, Poland, Greece, Turkey, Italy, Russia, Kazakhstan, Mongolia, Japan,Iraq, Syria and Iran. The Coalition of Free Nations consist of South America, Africa, Middle East, India, China, Indonesia and other nations i have not named.
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Post by Morty Vicar on Mar 31, 2016 20:30:22 GMT
I will try, lest see, the Pacific-Atlantic Bloc consist of the USA, Canada, Mexico all down to Panama, New Zealand, Australia, Greenland, United Kingdom, Iceland, Norway, Portugal and Spain. The Imperial States of Earth consist of the Benelux, France, the Balkan nations, Germany, Sweden, Finland, Poland, Greece, Turkey, Italy, Russia, Kazakhstan, Mongolia, Japan,Iraq, Syria and Iran. The Coalition of Free Nations consist of South America, Africa, Middle East, India, China, Indonesia and other nations i have not named. Is this right?
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Post by Morty Vicar on Mar 31, 2016 20:35:52 GMT
That could fairly easily result from a continued, heightened cold war. Attempts by Soviet Bloc and NATO to take over regions in the rest of the World leads to an alliance of independent nations, but the alliance itself becomes dominant over the nations and keeps them under military rule.
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Post by lordroel on Mar 31, 2016 20:37:01 GMT
This is awesome and to think you made it so fast, of course some of the countries borders in 2084 are not the same as they once where like the two koreas are one (2nd Korean War won by South Korean somewhere in the 2020s), come to think of it, would Korea and Japan as being USA allies (the USA is the biggest member of the Pacific-Atlantic Bloc) not be members of the Pacific-Atlantic Bloc as is the Philippines, but for the rest this map is as i imagine the world of 2084.
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Post by Morty Vicar on Mar 31, 2016 20:57:40 GMT
This is awesome and to think you made it so fast, of course some of the countries borders in 2084 are not the same as they once where like the two koreas are one (2nd Korean War won by South Korean somewhere in the 2020s), come to think of it, would Korea and Japan as being USA allies (the USA is the biggest member of the Pacific-Atlantic Bloc) not be members of the Pacific-Atlantic Bloc as is the Philippines, but for the rest this map is as i imagine the world of 2084. This map is really easy to fill out, just take it into MS Paint and use the bucket fill. There's things like a connecting line between Alaska and the rest of the USA so it all gets filled out automatically.
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:BlankMap-World-FIFA.png
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Post by Morty Vicar on Mar 31, 2016 21:05:07 GMT
Updated.
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Post by lordroel on Apr 1, 2016 8:15:47 GMT
Perfect, the world of 2084 has taken shape, now what would you think about the Dead Zone, a area of Earth that has been fought some (Africa under the Democratic of Congo and Saudi Arabia, Yemen, and the UAE) during the many wars of 2050 to current 2084 where highly toxic biological and chemical weapons were used, leaving them so badly contaminated, that no human life can survive there. Not even the use of robots and machines is possible.
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Post by spanishspy on Apr 3, 2016 0:21:03 GMT
Reading this, you have a lot of good ideas but I have a few objections.
I sincerely doubt the entire world would be carved up like that. There would be that area of anarchy between "Tangier, Hong Kong, Darwin, and Brazzaville" as per the original novel - Africa would be a torn up wasteland fought among between the major powers. The Middle East would be declining in relevance due to the decreasing importance of oil, but still fought over. Israel would be a Western puppet.
I also don't see Europe going to the Russians. More likely, the three powers would be an expanded NATO with dominion over most of the Americas and Oceania, a Russia that has control of the Caucasus and Central Asia, and China with expanded reach over East Asia. Major points of contention would be Ukraine, Iran, Afghanistan, Taiwan, and Korea.
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Post by lordroel on Apr 3, 2016 7:25:06 GMT
Reading this, you have a lot of good ideas but I have a few objections. I sincerely doubt the entire world would be carved up like that. There would be that area of anarchy between "Tangier, Hong Kong, Darwin, and Brazzaville" as per the original novel - Africa would be a torn up wasteland fought among between the major powers. The Middle East would be declining in relevance due to the decreasing importance of oil, but still fought over. Israel would be a Western puppet. I also don't see Europe going to the Russians. More likely, the three powers would be an expanded NATO with dominion over most of the Americas and Oceania, a Russia that has control of the Caucasus and Central Asia, and China with expanded reach over East Asia. Major points of contention would be Ukraine, Iran, Afghanistan, Taiwan, and Korea. This world is a future world of 1984, thus it is not how it should be but more in the line of a future version of the book.
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Post by Roderick3D on Jun 26, 2016 10:09:52 GMT
Reading this, you have a lot of good ideas but I have a few objections. I sincerely doubt the entire world would be carved up like that. There would be that area of anarchy between "Tangier, Hong Kong, Darwin, and Brazzaville" as per the original novel - Africa would be a torn up wasteland fought among between the major powers. The Middle East would be declining in relevance due to the decreasing importance of oil, but still fought over. Israel would be a Western puppet. I also don't see Europe going to the Russians. More likely, the three powers would be an expanded NATO with dominion over most of the Americas and Oceania, a Russia that has control of the Caucasus and Central Asia, and China with expanded reach over East Asia. Major points of contention would be Ukraine, Iran, Afghanistan, Taiwan, and Korea.
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Post by lordroel on Jun 26, 2016 10:19:33 GMT
Reading this, you have a lot of good ideas but I have a few objections. I sincerely doubt the entire world would be carved up like that. There would be that area of anarchy between "Tangier, Hong Kong, Darwin, and Brazzaville" as per the original novel - Africa would be a torn up wasteland fought among between the major powers. The Middle East would be declining in relevance due to the decreasing importance of oil, but still fought over. Israel would be a Western puppet. I also don't see Europe going to the Russians. More likely, the three powers would be an expanded NATO with dominion over most of the Americas and Oceania, a Russia that has control of the Caucasus and Central Asia, and China with expanded reach over East Asia. Major points of contention would be Ukraine, Iran, Afghanistan, Taiwan, and Korea. Looks like your world has sufferd a rise of the sea level.
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Post by Roderick3D on Jun 26, 2016 10:26:13 GMT
Looks like your world has sufferd a rise of the sea level. Thats more post apocalyptic
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Post by lordroel on Jul 3, 2016 16:39:55 GMT
Looks like your world has sufferd a rise of the sea level. Thats more post apocalyptic Nice map of a world in 2084 i think.
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