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Post by Max Sinister on Nov 1, 2023 18:36:36 GMT
'Herbert Hoover Assassinated'. Doesn't have to be immediately, but some time after the 1929 Crash makes the most obvious sense. Really, I'm surprised things didn't end that way IOTL, given how much hate he got for all the Hoovervilles and shit. I guess that the queue for those who wanted to do that was even longer than the bread lines.
Not to mention how he had the veterans rioting (and their wives and children) shot.
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Post by stevep on Nov 1, 2023 18:37:11 GMT
I'm not sure anyone understands it  and the situation could be different in TTL. Recent devolution, in Scotland, Wales and N Ireland has given a local parliament while they still also elect MPs to the central parliament, generally with more MPs per population than for England. Scotland has more powers then the Welsh assembly and ditto I believe for the Ulster one, albeit that's been closed down for a while due to internal squabbling.
There has been talking of devolution to assorted English regions but I don't think any of this has been serious, at least in the eyes of the central government, since the 70's and the general trend has been increasing centalization of both overt control and indirectly by control on spending.
A local parliament for the rest of the other kingdoms that make up of the UK? I guess this would be suitable for a Newfoundland and Malta that remains a part of the UK. I don't suppose the Channel Islands would be qualified for a local parliament of their own, being a stone's throw away from mainland France. (The Channel Islands are essentially a part of the former Duchy of Normandy that the British government controls)
The channel islands each have their own legislation actually as does the Isle of Man. Its all a bit complicated. However otherwise your idea is probably how it would go. Newfoundland currently has about 535,000 people so that would give it something like 5 or 6 MPs judging by the current average. Malta is slightly less at ~520,000 so probably a similar number.
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Post by Otto Kretschmer on Nov 9, 2023 9:26:02 GMT
AHC: a surviving Yugoslavia.
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Post by Max Sinister on Nov 16, 2023 2:38:40 GMT
Inspired by Kim Newman's "The Germans Won": What are the chances of Denis Healey, Peter Walker, and Chris Patton to become British PM respectively?
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Post by Zyobot on Nov 17, 2023 18:30:11 GMT
'LBJ Assassinated'.
More specifically, some time after JFK is offed, rather than on the same day.
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Post by Zyobot on Nov 21, 2023 21:28:38 GMT
’AHC: Superpower Turkey With A Post-1900 POD’.
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Post by 575 on Nov 21, 2023 21:56:57 GMT
’AHC: Superpower Turkey With A Post-1900 POD’. Sounds an odd bird?? |
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Post by Zyobot on Nov 21, 2023 22:03:52 GMT
’AHC: Superpower Turkey With A Post-1900 POD’. Sounds an odd bird?? Well, I guess "Superpower Ottoman Empire" would make more sense. For starters, I assume if World War I still kicks off, it'd require a Central Powers victory in which Russia is subjugated and the Ottomans win a lion’s share of the spoils (such as the Caucusus). |
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Post by 575 on Nov 21, 2023 22:09:52 GMT
Well, I guess "Superpower Ottoman Empire" would make more sense. For starters, I assume if World War I still kicks off, it'd require a Central Powers victory in which Russia is subjugated and the Ottomans win a lion’s share of the spoils (such as the Caucusus). Was my immediate assumption too - well easy for me to write now, right? Which would also have it have control over a large part of Mid East Oil.
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Post by stevep on Nov 21, 2023 22:16:50 GMT
Possibly if the Young Turks stay fairly radical and reformists rather than becoming ultra-Turkish nationalists. That might avoid a lot of the unrest in the minority groups and also the bloody massacres that occurred. If also they avoid joining the Central Powers then both that makes the war probably a year or so shorter but also avoids the destruction across much of the Ottoman empire and greatly reduces the chaos that has followed since it fell.
You would still need to convert it into a basically democratic state - which would be difficult - [or an even more savage dictatorship than the YT's were OTL] and still face a lot of internal national desires for at least large scale devolution [Armenians, Kurds, Arabs especially] and the issue of the large Greek minority and a desire for union with Greece. However if somehow that could be done and decent government secured you could have a potential economic and even military super-power.
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Post by Max Sinister on Nov 22, 2023 21:57:47 GMT
The thing was, since the French Revolution nationalism was the ideology of the day, and there had been no fascism and nazism yet to discredit it.
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Post by stevep on Nov 22, 2023 23:38:55 GMT
The thing was, since the French Revolution nationalism was the ideology of the day, and there had been no fascism and nazism yet to discredit it.
I would say partially true on both issues. There were other factors than pure nationalism, such as continued loyalty to non-national groups - multi-national monarchy, religious or political factions.
Also while fascism and Nazism definitely tainted the idea of nationality very badly, as did racism more generally there were concerns about nationalism in many eyes before WWI and especially after it. It had started off a predominantly liberal ideology but became more and more dominated by a narrower and more conservative definition of the nation as the 19thC drew to a close.
It was still the predominant source of identity in many areas but there were counter forces and arguments already rising about its nature.
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Post by TheRomanSlayer on Nov 26, 2023 1:29:34 GMT
PC: Yukio Mishima sent to fight in the Pacific
The wrongful misdiagnosis of Yukio Mishima had actually prevented him from being sent to the Pacific War, thus saving his life, only to commit suicide after his coup had failed.
Given the chances of staying alive or dying, how would Mishima's life be affected if he actually fought in the Pacific? If he stayed alive, would he become the vocal point of discontent with the Japanese public? If he died, how would the post war far right extremism in Japan be affected by his absence?
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Post by mspence on Nov 27, 2023 6:03:24 GMT
Nixon's 'Nam: WI Nixon had been elected in 1960, how does he deal with Vietnam?
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Post by Deleted on Nov 29, 2023 15:59:18 GMT
What if Senator Lodge rather than Woodrow Wilson was the one who had a major stroke? For my personal amusement, let's say Lodge's stroke happen "at the eleventh hour of the eleventh day of the eleventh month". That is, the moment the guns ceased to fire on the Continent, not 11AM on 11/11/1918 D.C. time.
What happens to US politics?
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and the situation could be different in TTL. Recent devolution, in Scotland, Wales and N Ireland has given a local parliament while they still also elect MPs to the central parliament, generally with more MPs per population than for England. Scotland has more powers then the Welsh assembly and ditto I believe for the Ulster one, albeit that's been closed down for a while due to internal squabbling. 
