An Early Rebellion of the South.

I do recall reading a story about this but for the life of me I can't recall what it was called or how it affected anything in the United States. But I think we can all agree that had Jefferson kept or added this to the Declaration of Independence the southern states would, more than likely, walk away from the table and leave the northern states to plot a course from there without them.

If the wars does happen, which I find to be highly unlikely the red coats simply base their troops in the south and move north and end this rebel force before a full year passes. So no crossing and attacking them at night on Xmas. No outside help from our French allies at Yorktown by blocking their ships from sailing back out to sea. No United States to buy any land west of the Mississippi River in the 1800s.

The south never forms the confederacy because it never left England. They only talked to some people for a few weeks and later walked away when one of their own pushed a stupid idea. The sheer thought that the south could win a war with the north is just nonsense. The south was behind the north in most everything in 1861. The idea that they would do any better in 1776-1783 is so far from believability I find it hard that anybody thinks it could ever have happened.

If you're trying for a war with the south and the north, you would need to set it after the war (1776-1783) and with people pushing for the end of slavery much harder than what we saw in our own timeline. Maybe have pro-slavers kill some people from the north. Maybe have the United States have a leader who views it's use as evil and thus pushes for the end of the practice of slavery any time after the 1800s but before 1860.

Slavery was dying already by the time the 1780s were ending. If the cotton gin was pushed back say five years there may never have been a War Between The States, The Second American Revolution, or a so-called Civil War.


That said I do find the idea a neat one. It just needs some work on how we get to that war. Because this would never have worked. Without the south there is likely no war. No names are signed at the bottom. No army is formed. No war is waged. No United States to buy the land. No wars in the Caribbean. What you should do is just drop everything after the slave thing is added. Work on how this affects the talks. Otherwise this is never going to work out because you have far too much to work out.