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Post by Zyobot on Mar 20, 2020 19:56:53 GMT
Possibly, if they're completely enclosed in said pineapples (since they still need to filter-feed). So you just mass killed all the sponges on the planet. Well, unless the pineapple is partially carved open so that the sponges still have openings to filter-feed through. Otherwise, probably. |
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Post by lordroel on Mar 20, 2020 21:45:05 GMT
What if Theodore Roosevelt and the Rough Riders when storming into battle showed up on the Western Front in 1918.
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Post by stevep on Mar 21, 2020 12:23:27 GMT
What if Theodore Roosevelt and the Rough Riders when storming into battle showed up on the Western Front in 1918.
If they suddenly find themselves attacking a German defensive position they almost certainly get slaughtered. I have read his OTL attack in Cuba was only successful because a logistics failure among the Spanish forces meant they were out of ammo and they would have been bloodily repulsed.
Would this be a duplicated Teddy and gang, from another universe or does this mean they had disappeared from the same universe in 1898? The latter would have some significant butterflies as their disappearance would cause confusion while of course there's no President Roosevelt.
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Post by lordroel on Mar 21, 2020 12:28:30 GMT
What if Theodore Roosevelt and the Rough Riders when storming into battle showed up on the Western Front in 1918. If they suddenly find themselves attacking a German defensive position they almost certainly get slaughtered. I have read his OTL attack in Cuba was only successful because a logistics failure among the Spanish forces meant they were out of ammo and they would have been bloodily repulsed. Would this be a duplicated Teddy and gang, from another universe or does this mean they had disappeared from the same universe in 1898? The latter would have some significant butterflies as their disappearance would cause confusion while of course there's no President Roosevelt.
You right, seeing this YouTube clip the Rough Riders would be mascaraed if they stormed a hill held by the Germans. |
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Post by Zyobot on Mar 21, 2020 17:29:57 GMT
‘Joe McCarthy Meets A Communist Version Of Himself’. Hmm, maybe his Red counterpart would come from a timeline where America went communist or something.
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Post by lordroel on Mar 21, 2020 17:47:46 GMT
‘Joe McCarthy Meets A Communist Version Of Himself’. Hmm, maybe his Red counterpart would come from a timeline where America went communist or something. Ore was invaded by the Soviet Union. |
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Post by Zyobot on Mar 21, 2020 17:55:46 GMT
‘Joe McCarthy Meets A Communist Version Of Himself’. Hmm, maybe his Red counterpart would come from a timeline where America went communist or something. Ore was invaded by the Soviet Union. Well, unless this alternate TL features Soviet-wank via ASB shenanigans, I don’t think that’s likely. Especially due to how the Soviet Union compares to America in terms of economic and military strength. |
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Post by lordroel on Mar 22, 2020 11:48:46 GMT
The American Expeditionary Forces from 1918 when it was on full strength (May 1918) is send to May 1st 1940 France, so what next. |
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Post by stevep on Mar 23, 2020 10:02:56 GMT
The American Expeditionary Forces from 1918 when it was on full strength (May 1918) is send to May 1st 1940 France, so what next.
Well it depends on how quickly it realises what has happened, along with the 1940 French and whether those troops are willing to fight for France again when the US is technically neutral?
If they are, and there are over 1M of them at this point then how will relatively inexperienced 1918 infantry fare against a 1940 German blitzkrieg? Probably not too well and they will be without a lot of support facilities as neither the US or the western powers are manufacturing such equipment now. However there are a lot of men who could clog up the German offensive a bit.
Actually the US forces in Western Europe reached their peak at 1.8M in the last month of the war when they overtook the British strength on the western front. This might be a better option for an ISOT as not only are they stronger in number but also a number have had actual battle experience and having fought alongside the French and British they might be more inclined to join this new war - although I suspect Washington would oppose such an action at this stage. Mind your their sudden appearance and the resulting confusion might be enough to make some in Germany think again about such an attack.
One nasty bi-product however is that you have reintroduced the 1918 fly pandemic to 1940! Regardless of where it actually originated - there are differing viewpoints, origins of the 1918 flu, its present in the USEF at this date so unless the ASB responsible specifically excludes it its going to be loose again. The more lethal 2nd wave appeared about August 1918 in France but does appear to have originated in the US so could also be present with a Nov 1918 ISOT. Some people will have immunity but quite a lot, especially among the younger generations will not so that could be nasty.
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Post by Zyobot on Mar 23, 2020 14:45:16 GMT
'Everyone's Eye Color Becomes Grey'. So whatever it must've been before--blue, brown, green, heterochromic--it's replaced by grey.
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Post by lordroel on Mar 23, 2020 15:25:51 GMT
The American Expeditionary Forces from 1918 when it was on full strength (May 1918) is send to May 1st 1940 France, so what next. Well it depends on how quickly it realises what has happened, along with the 1940 French and whether those troops are willing to fight for France again when the US is technically neutral? If they are, and there are over 1M of them at this point then how will relatively inexperienced 1918 infantry fare against a 1940 German blitzkrieg? Probably not too well and they will be without a lot of support facilities as neither the US or the western powers are manufacturing such equipment now. However there are a lot of men who could clog up the German offensive a bit. Actually the US forces in Western Europe reached their peak at 1.8M in the last month of the war when they overtook the British strength on the western front. This might be a better option for an ISOT as not only are they stronger in number but also a number have had actual battle experience and having fought alongside the French and British they might be more inclined to join this new war - although I suspect Washington would oppose such an action at this stage. Mind your their sudden appearance and the resulting confusion might be enough to make some in Germany think again about such an attack. One nasty bi-product however is that you have reintroduced the 1918 fly pandemic to 1940! Regardless of where it actually originated - there are differing viewpoints, origins of the 1918 flu, its present in the USEF at this date so unless the ASB responsible specifically excludes it its going to be loose again. The more lethal 2nd wave appeared about August 1918 in France but does appear to have originated in the US so could also be present with a Nov 1918 ISOT. Some people will have immunity but quite a lot, especially among the younger generations will not so that could be nasty. Steve
But the question is will Germany risk invading France with the AEF (1918) being there. |
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Post by Zyobot on Mar 23, 2020 19:33:50 GMT
'US And DPRK Swap National Anthems'.
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Post by lordroel on Mar 23, 2020 19:37:24 GMT
'US And DPRK Swap National Anthems'. Will they like it. |
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Post by Zyobot on Mar 23, 2020 19:45:53 GMT
'US And DPRK Swap National Anthems'. Will they like it. My guess is no. Unless both songs are translated appropriately, most people in either country will have no clue what the lyrics mean. |
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Post by stevep on Mar 24, 2020 14:32:01 GMT
Well it depends on how quickly it realises what has happened, along with the 1940 French and whether those troops are willing to fight for France again when the US is technically neutral? If they are, and there are over 1M of them at this point then how will relatively inexperienced 1918 infantry fare against a 1940 German blitzkrieg? Probably not too well and they will be without a lot of support facilities as neither the US or the western powers are manufacturing such equipment now. However there are a lot of men who could clog up the German offensive a bit. Actually the US forces in Western Europe reached their peak at 1.8M in the last month of the war when they overtook the British strength on the western front. This might be a better option for an ISOT as not only are they stronger in number but also a number have had actual battle experience and having fought alongside the French and British they might be more inclined to join this new war - although I suspect Washington would oppose such an action at this stage. Mind your their sudden appearance and the resulting confusion might be enough to make some in Germany think again about such an attack. One nasty bi-product however is that you have reintroduced the 1918 fly pandemic to 1940! Regardless of where it actually originated - there are differing viewpoints, origins of the 1918 flu, its present in the USEF at this date so unless the ASB responsible specifically excludes it its going to be loose again. The more lethal 2nd wave appeared about August 1918 in France but does appear to have originated in the US so could also be present with a Nov 1918 ISOT. Some people will have immunity but quite a lot, especially among the younger generations will not so that could be nasty. Steve
But the question is will Germany risk invading France with the AEF (1918) being there.
It would depend on the timing and how quickly Germany and others recognise what's actually happened. News of 1940 US suddenly deploying a very large military force might cause Hitler to pause, although given how small the US army at this point its likely to be rejected. When its realised that somehow a force from 22 years before has suddenly re-appeared would cause a lot of uncertainty but their likely to be seen as what they are, unsupported and relatively lightly equipped forces that will add to the confusion. Also if they only appear on the day or a couple of days before the German attack starts the latter may not have time to cancel everything so the attack goes through.
I suspect assuming the Germans do attack, they will still probably win but its going to be more costly and it might trigger an earlier intervention by the 1940 US. Although as I've already said Washington, once it hears that their appeared will almost certainly order the forces not to take part in any conflict and seek to withdraw them to the US while it tries to decide what to do with them. That wouldn't be easy even without a German invasion given the already active U boats in the Atlantic and the massive number of shipping's that would be required even if they left all their equipment behind.
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