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Post by Zyobot on Apr 7, 2019 16:10:38 GMT
'How Would The Nazis Interact w/Aliens?' This must stem from my recent fixation on The Man In The High Castle, I swear. Aliens like the lizards from Harry Turtledove who come to invade ore peaceful aliens who do not know with who they make first contact with. Either, or. I wonder, for example, how they might react to the various races from Star Trek or Star Wars. The physically mighty Klingons or Wookiees, the profit-obsessed Ferengi or Muuns, the drone-like Borg or Iskalloni, etcetera ad infinitum. |
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Post by lordroel on Apr 7, 2019 16:39:20 GMT
Aliens like the lizards from Harry Turtledove who come to invade ore peaceful aliens who do not know with who they make first contact with. Either, or. I wonder, for example, how they might react to the various races from Star Trek or Star Wars. The physically mighty Klingons or Wookiees, the profit-obsessed Ferengi or Muuns, the drone-like Borg or Iskalloni, etcetera ad infinitum. The Borg and Klingons are a bad choice i might think to send to a earth they can easily conquer. |
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Post by Zyobot on Apr 7, 2019 16:42:32 GMT
Either, or. I wonder, for example, how they might react to the various races from Star Trek or Star Wars. The physically mighty Klingons or Wookiees, the profit-obsessed Ferengi or Muuns, the drone-like Borg or Iskalloni, etcetera ad infinitum. The Borg and Klingons are a bad choice i might think to send to a earth they can easily conquer. True. The best choice I can think of would be the Vulcans, or a Jedi strike team from the days of the Galactic Republic. That doesn't mean the Nazis would receive them too well either, though. |
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Post by lordroel on Apr 7, 2019 16:54:05 GMT
The Borg and Klingons are a bad choice i might think to send to a earth they can easily conquer. True. The best choice I can think of would be the Vulcans, or a Jedi strike team from the days of the Galactic Republic. That doesn't mean the Nazis would receive them too well either, though. Do not think the Vulcan when they discover the German plans for people will want anything to do with them. |
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Post by Zyobot on Apr 7, 2019 18:20:52 GMT
True. The best choice I can think of would be the Vulcans, or a Jedi strike team from the days of the Galactic Republic. That doesn't mean the Nazis would receive them too well either, though. Do not think the Vulcan when they discover the German plans for people will want anything to do with them. Certainly not. The Nazis would likely remind them of their own savagely violent, self-destructive past. So, after assessing what kind of people inhabit this alternate Earth, they'd likely pass on the chance to make first contact with the locals. Frankly, they'd be right to do so. |
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Post by Zyobot on Apr 7, 2019 19:19:54 GMT
'How Would A Conversation Between Spock and Grand Admiral Thrawn Play Out?'
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Post by lordroel on Apr 7, 2019 19:20:22 GMT
'How Would A Conversation Between Spock and Grand Admiral Thrawn Play Out?' With logic i resume. |
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Post by Zyobot on Apr 7, 2019 20:33:06 GMT
'How Would A Conversation Between Spock and Grand Admiral Thrawn Play Out?' With logic i resume. Yes. Two calculating, emotionally restrained naval officers from rival creative works engaging in nothing more than a conversation, perhaps enjoying their characteristic beverages or meals choice in a space-based cafe. The half-Vulcan would likely find the Chiss's knack for studying art something "fascinating", while the latter would take interest in the former's repressed emotions in favor of logic. Their political viewpoints would be completely juxtaposed, however--with Spock as a Starfleet member who's presumably for democracy and sentient rights, and Thrawn as an Imperial Grand Admiral who seems to support his regime's authoritarianism, though is colder and more pragmatic than other high-ranking military leaders. Hey, this premise might be the basis for some good fanfiction. Maybe I'll write one such story myself. |
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Post by lordroel on Apr 8, 2019 2:45:51 GMT
Yes. Two calculating, emotionally restrained naval officers from rival creative works engaging in nothing more than a conversation, perhaps enjoying their characteristic beverages or meals choice in a space-based cafe. The half-Vulcan would likely find the Chiss's knack for studying art something "fascinating", while the latter would take interest in the former's repressed emotions in favor of logic. Their political viewpoints would be completely juxtaposed, however--with Spock as a Starfleet member who's presumably for democracy and sentient rights, and Thrawn as an Imperial Grand Admiral who seems to support his regime's authoritarianism, though is colder and more pragmatic than other high-ranking military leaders. But will Spock survive the meeting with Grand Admiral Thrawn. |
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Post by Zyobot on Apr 8, 2019 13:49:52 GMT
Yes. Two calculating, emotionally restrained naval officers from rival creative works engaging in nothing more than a conversation, perhaps enjoying their characteristic beverages or meals choice in a space-based cafe. The half-Vulcan would likely find the Chiss's knack for studying art something "fascinating", while the latter would take interest in the former's repressed emotions in favor of logic. Their political viewpoints would be completely juxtaposed, however--with Spock as a Starfleet member who's presumably for democracy and sentient rights, and Thrawn as an Imperial Grand Admiral who seems to support his regime's authoritarianism, though is colder and more pragmatic than other high-ranking military leaders. But will Spock survive the meeting with Grand Admiral Thrawn. Good question. I think it depends on the setting they meet in. If it were set in a space-based cafe between a Federation and Empire that signed a (at least temporary) non-aggression pact, I'd assume yes. If it were in the midst of a battle between Starfleet and the Imperial Navy that both non-human officers are present at, the odds of emerging from the encounter alive become significantly lower. |
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Post by lordroel on Apr 8, 2019 13:53:44 GMT
But will Spock survive the meeting with Grand Admiral Thrawn. Good question. I think it depends on the setting they meet in. If it were set in a space-based cafe between a Federation and Empire that signed a (at least temporary) non-aggression pact, I'd assume yes. If it were in the midst of a battle between Starfleet and the Imperial Navy that both non-human officers are present at, the odds of emerging from the encounter alive become significantly lower. Well the Federation signed treaties with the Klingons and Romulans, would they sing a treaty with the Empire, also is the Empire not a lot bigger than the Federation. |
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Post by stevep on Apr 8, 2019 16:07:09 GMT
Good question. I think it depends on the setting they meet in. If it were set in a space-based cafe between a Federation and Empire that signed a (at least temporary) non-aggression pact, I'd assume yes. If it were in the midst of a battle between Starfleet and the Imperial Navy that both non-human officers are present at, the odds of emerging from the encounter alive become significantly lower. Well the Federation signed treaties with the Klingons and Romulans, would they sing a treaty with the Empire, also is the Empire not a lot bigger than the Federation.
The question might be would the empire sign a treaty with the Federation. It sounds a bit like the Dominion, being totally committed to its sole possession of power and not accepting the existence of any separate independent state. Especially with the empire in charge.
Possibly if somehow they met due to an ISOT meaning a relatively small Imperial force being moved to the Federation Galaxy? That means they have to at least consider working with others, at least until they find their feet. Plus if away from the malignant influence of the empire and possibly if the force doesn't work there this would be a factor as well.
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Post by lordroel on Apr 8, 2019 16:12:39 GMT
Well the Federation signed treaties with the Klingons and Romulans, would they sing a treaty with the Empire, also is the Empire not a lot bigger than the Federation. The question might be would the empire sign a treaty with the Federation. It sounds a bit like the Dominion, being totally committed to its sole possession of power and not accepting the existence of any separate independent state. Especially with the empire in charge. Possibly if somehow they met due to an ISOT meaning a relatively small Imperial force being moved to the Federation Galaxy? That means they have to at least consider working with others, at least until they find their feet. Plus if away from the malignant influence of the empire and possibly if the force doesn't work there this would be a factor as well.
If you send only a Star Wars planet like Coruscant which has population over 1 trillion it already has 1/10 of the population of the Federation which according to Wiki called Memory Beta is about 9.85 trillion. |
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Post by Zyobot on Apr 8, 2019 17:53:20 GMT
The question might be would the empire sign a treaty with the Federation. It sounds a bit like the Dominion, being totally committed to its sole possession of power and not accepting the existence of any separate independent state. Especially with the empire in charge. Possibly if somehow they met due to an ISOT meaning a relatively small Imperial force being moved to the Federation Galaxy? That means they have to at least consider working with others, at least until they find their feet. Plus if away from the malignant influence of the empire and possibly if the force doesn't work there this would be a factor as well.
If you send only a Star Wars planet like Coruscant which has population over 1 trillion it already has 1/10 of the population of the Federation which according to Wiki called Memory Beta is about 9.85 trillion. Sorry, did you look at Memory Alpha, or Memory Beta? I ask because the latter also includes non-canon material, meaning that it may not actually be true to the original Star Trek storyline...s. But yeah, a population of 9.85 trillion sentient beings sounds pretty unsurprising to me. |
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Post by stevep on Apr 8, 2019 19:02:41 GMT
The question might be would the empire sign a treaty with the Federation. It sounds a bit like the Dominion, being totally committed to its sole possession of power and not accepting the existence of any separate independent state. Especially with the empire in charge. Possibly if somehow they met due to an ISOT meaning a relatively small Imperial force being moved to the Federation Galaxy? That means they have to at least consider working with others, at least until they find their feet. Plus if away from the malignant influence of the empire and possibly if the force doesn't work there this would be a factor as well.
If you send only a Star Wars planet like Coruscant which has population over 1 trillion it already has 1/10 of the population of the Federation which according to Wiki called Memory Beta is about 9.85 trillion.
Even if you assume a lot of very small aliens that's a huge population for a planet that is as I understand it basically terrestrial in character. I could see that for a system say with the vast bulk of the population being in off planet structures but its excessive for a single planet if their anything like humanoid in size.
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