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Post by american2006 on May 26, 2021 2:49:28 GMT
So I'm gonna begin a series of maps in my hopes to get more active on this forum again, so I'm going to start by creating congressional maps for the Present day in a Confederate House of Representatives with 500 members. I'm gonna include Missouri and Kentucky in this but not Oklahoma and West Virginia, to have general alternate history usage.
Members of the C.H.o.R.
Texas- 123
Florida- 91
Georgia- 45
North Carolina- 44
Virginia- 36
Tennessee- 29
Missouri- 26
South Carolina- 22
Alabama- 21
Louisiana- 20
Kentucky- 19
Arkansas- 13
Mississippi- 12
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Post by american2006 on May 28, 2021 2:07:06 GMT
davesredistricting.org/join/c9ff7089-68e9-4ee3-aefb-5c138a919833That's the district map for Mississippi, with 12 Congressional Districts. Eight districts have strong Republican leaning and two have strong Democratic leaning, with two being very highly competitive. Of course, Republican and Democratic Parties won't exist in the Confederacy, you'd probably see a Democratic Party being the more conservative party and perhaps a Federalist or Abolitionist Party being the more liberal party. A note on Abolitionist, I imagine that a party of that name would exist post-abolition of slavery.
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Post by american2006 on May 28, 2021 2:39:09 GMT
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Post by american2006 on May 30, 2021 20:40:52 GMT
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Post by american2006 on Jun 1, 2021 0:39:54 GMT
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Post by jjohnson on Jun 3, 2021 21:58:06 GMT
Cool information. That's not something you see too often in any timeline, congressional district maps. Keep up the good work!
Mildly related, but how do you create a districting map? I have a timeline with an alternate CS, and wanted to draw some districts to help flesh it out. For example, my 1870 census gave Alabama 18 seats, 9 to Arkansas, and 4 to Florida. I would enjoy drawing some maps out to show the possible districts for those various prior years.
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Post by american2006 on Jun 4, 2021 2:05:08 GMT
Cool information. That's not something you see too often in any timeline, congressional district maps. Keep up the good work! Mildly related, but how do you create a districting map? I have a timeline with an alternate CS, and wanted to draw some districts to help flesh it out. For example, my 1870 census gave Alabama 18 seats, 9 to Arkansas, and 4 to Florida. I would enjoy drawing some maps out to show the possible districts for those various prior years. I use a site called davesredistrictingapplication.org , but its population data is only for 2010 and 2016. That is (from what I can tell) your best bet. I do like the minute details of elections, I will likely do something like this for my timelines I have in operations, primarily my "Butterflying a Bat" Timeline. |
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Post by jjohnson on Jun 4, 2021 20:37:11 GMT
Can that site draw something like Texas with 76 districts or Florida with 43? My alternate timeline has a southern HoR with 612 members in 200, and 646 in 2020, so if it can redraw, even with existing population numbers, with a larger number of seats, that would be amazingly helpful.
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Post by american2006 on Jun 5, 2021 18:29:46 GMT
Can that site draw something like Texas with 76 districts or Florida with 43? My alternate timeline has a southern HoR with 612 members in 200, and 646 in 2020, so if it can redraw, even with existing population numbers, with a larger number of seats, that would be amazingly helpful. Yes that site indeed can handle that many districts. I’ve started working on Texas with 123 districts, and have even done Utah (partially) with 100 districts. |
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Post by simon darkshade on Jun 7, 2021 12:37:11 GMT
Would the population distribution of a surviving Confederacy be an exact facsimile of 2021's United States? I would think that there would be some significant differences, such as Florida not being quite the same retirement village; Texas not having the same growth pattern; and certain states both along the border and the Deep South having different development on account of the need for industrial development of the CSA.
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Post by american2006 on Jun 12, 2021 17:37:00 GMT
Would the population distribution of a surviving Confederacy be an exact facsimile of 2021's United States? I would think that there would be some significant differences, such as Florida not being quite the same retirement village; Texas not having the same growth pattern; and certain states both along the border and the Deep South having different development on account of the need for industrial development of the CSA. The chances of it being the same are near zero, but the software doesn’t make it easy to design Alternate borders. We could however see a population change from the confederacy if the following happens: The CSA abolishes slavery in the late 1800s or early 1900s The CSA develops technologically And the US goes into decline in the rust belt as in are timeline and move into the south. The chance of that happening is almost nonexistent but remotely possible, the maps of Arkansas and Mississippi are still somewhat realistic. |
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Post by kyng on Jun 12, 2021 22:36:44 GMT
Interesting stuff  ! One thing I'd like to know is: might any states in this alternate CSA be sub-divided at all? I guess the app doesn't allow for that; however, if (for example) Texas divides itself into five states, then we could just treat your 'Texas' map as a combined map of the districts of those five states  . |
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