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Post by TheRomanSlayer on Jan 13, 2021 15:37:24 GMT
I would think that the oligarchs of TTL may be brought under control, though it might be under a different President besides Burbulis. Moreover, many of the loyalists who in OTL have become oligarchs might not rise to prominence. Yeltsin for one, would be considered an oligarch ITTL. However, several of the rebel politicians ITTL would have been oligarchs of OTL (Prokhorov comes to mind).
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Post by kyuzoaoi on Jan 14, 2021 5:16:29 GMT
Who voiced Korea in ITTL Hetalia?
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Post by TheRomanSlayer on Jan 14, 2021 5:37:51 GMT
Who voiced Korea in ITTL Hetalia? If it was male, I would have to choose either Takahiro Sakurai or Kouki Uchiyama. I would also be making another OMAKE, regarding Filipino teleseryes, which will definitely be a bit too dark. Ironically, the Tadiar dictatorship will be a gold mine for teleseryes directors, as opposed to OTL. In this case, even priests and nuns would become fair game. |
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Post by gillan1220 on Jan 14, 2021 5:42:49 GMT
One question. When the Chinese start their bombing of the Philippines, won't U.S. forces help? This does fall under the 1951 MDT.
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Post by TheRomanSlayer on Jan 14, 2021 5:52:24 GMT
One question. When the Chinese start their bombing of the Philippines, won't U.S. forces help? This does fall under the 1951 MDT. This might be a good question, though I suspect that with the arms embargo being in place, that might become a tough issue within the Jesse Jackson administration. This issue alone, along with possibly others, is going to be the factor that leads to a Jack Kemp presidency, and in a later update, I will have a segment called "How Jesse Jackson Drove Filipino Americans Into the Arms of the Republican Party". |
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Post by gillan1220 on Jan 14, 2021 6:04:35 GMT
One question. When the Chinese start their bombing of the Philippines, won't U.S. forces help? This does fall under the 1951 MDT. This might be a good question, though I suspect that with the arms embargo being in place, that might become a tough issue within the Jesse Jackson administration. This issue alone, along with possibly others, is going to be the factor that leads to a Jack Kemp presidency, and in a later update, I will have a segment called "How Jesse Jackson Drove Filipino Americans Into the Arms of the Republican Party". If Jackson did not honor the treaty, it would undermine it. |
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Post by TheRomanSlayer on Jan 14, 2021 6:22:12 GMT
This might be a good question, though I suspect that with the arms embargo being in place, that might become a tough issue within the Jesse Jackson administration. This issue alone, along with possibly others, is going to be the factor that leads to a Jack Kemp presidency, and in a later update, I will have a segment called "How Jesse Jackson Drove Filipino Americans Into the Arms of the Republican Party". If Jackson did not honor the treaty, it would undermine it. True, although the MDT would not apply if Tadiar had attacked the Chinese first, which Ye Fei might actually be hoping for. |
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Post by gillan1220 on Jan 14, 2021 6:22:44 GMT
If Jackson did not honor the treaty, it would undermine it. True, although the MDT would not apply if Tadiar had attacked the Chinese first, which Ye Fei might actually be hoping for. So in short, a false flag? |
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Post by TheRomanSlayer on Jan 14, 2021 6:37:10 GMT
Possibly, or a warning shot gone wrong.
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Post by stevep on Jan 14, 2021 15:14:05 GMT
When two sides are staring at each other with extreme mistrust it can be difficult to tell who actually shots 1st. Plus as TheRomanSlayer , says a warning shot in a tense naval encounter say could be taken by the other side as an attack. Under those circumstances and with the nature of the Tadiar regime, plus the reluctance to get involved in armed intervention again after the adventures of the preceding president I could see Jackson being unwilling to intervene militarily to aid Tadiar.
This would be changed by the sheer size of the Chinese attacks and reported death tolls in the Philippines, plus IIRC that their also attacking Vietnam and possibly other neighbours. There would be strong pressure to intervene on humanitarian grounds which possibly plays a part in ending the war but that such actually doesn't occur would undermine Jackson further.
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Post by TheRomanSlayer on Jan 14, 2021 15:23:12 GMT
True in most of these cases, plus we don’t know if that warning shot kills an opposing sailor or damages the ship by accident as well. A lot can go wrong in a naval encounter. Moreover, Hanoi is only a few kilometers from the Sino-Vietnamese border, so there is a strong possibility of a Chinese occupation of northern Vietnam there.
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Post by gillan1220 on Jan 14, 2021 16:01:33 GMT
True in most of these cases, plus we don’t know if that warning shot kills an opposing sailor or damages the ship by accident as well. A lot can go wrong in a naval encounter. Moreover, Hanoi is only a few kilometers from the Sino-Vietnamese border, so there is a strong possibility of a Chinese occupation of northern Vietnam there. Then the PLA would experience what the Americans before them tried. |
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Post by TheRomanSlayer on Jan 14, 2021 18:55:18 GMT
In essence, there may be a Round Two of the Sino-Vietnamese conflict.
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Post by stevep on Jan 14, 2021 20:32:26 GMT
True in most of these cases, plus we don’t know if that warning shot kills an opposing sailor or damages the ship by accident as well. A lot can go wrong in a naval encounter. Moreover, Hanoi is only a few kilometers from the Sino-Vietnamese border, so there is a strong possibility of a Chinese occupation of northern Vietnam there. Then the PLA would experience what the Americans before them tried.
Although the Chinese would be far more numerous and brutal and unless their getting aid from Russia the Vietnamese are probably on their own. Their still got a lot of veteran forces at this point and the Chinese are already fighting in the Philippines but I would suspect they would be worn down over time.
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Post by TheRomanSlayer on Jan 14, 2021 21:06:52 GMT
True, and judging by the part where China takes the entirety of the Spratlys, you can safely guess that even Brunei, Malaysia and Indonesia would get involved, though I might also suspect that Tadiar may also send troops to help the Vietnamese, despite their ideological incompatibility. Moreover, Vietnam would be more exhausted from fighting both the Chinese and the Khmer Rouge insurgents. (Vietnam by 1989 may be in the process of withdrawing from Cambodia)
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