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Post by ssgtc on Aug 15, 2020 14:26:39 GMT
July 3, 1957
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The destroyers Gelderland and Friesland depart for West New Guinea. They are the first reinforcements being sent to the island. Though officially stationed in West New Guinea for the duration of their deployment, both ships are expected to make several good will port visits to Australia, New Zealand, Malaya, the Philippines and Thailand. A request for a port visit to Indonesia was flatly refused by the Indonesian authorities.
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Post by lordroel on Aug 15, 2020 14:27:57 GMT
July 2, 1957 Central Sumatra, Indonesia Filipino CIA paramilitary officers met with Colonels Hussein and Sumual to begin assisting them in their planned rebellion against the government of President Sukarno. Filipino officers were chosen as they would be able to better blend in with the general populace. The first order of business was setting up training camps for the men under the Colonels' command. The second was working out how to equip and supply those forces. The need for modern small arms, light artillery and combat aircraft was acute if the rebellion was to have any chance at all of succeeding. The CIA Operatives had a list of equipment that the CIA could provide, most of it taken from American "boneyards" in the Southwestern United States. The final point was "preparing the battlespace," by conducting psychological warfare. The CIA would finance and set up radio stations throughout Indonesia to broadcast anti-Sukarno propaganda. It was hoped that the rebels would be able to conduct a successful campaign against the government within the next six months to a year. So Indonesia is going to do in the Philippines what China did in Vietnam. |
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Post by stevep on Aug 15, 2020 15:10:35 GMT
June 28, 1957 Langley, VA, USA Heads were rolling at the CIA. The operation to overthrow Sukarno had only been approved a week previously and already the full details of the operation had been published in a KGB controlled tabloid. Hard questions were being asked in the Directorate of Plans about just how in the hell the Soviets had already found out about this. Several people had suggested canceling the operation outright as it would not have a prayer of succeeding now. Those people were overruled. The operation would continue. Though consideration was given to changing certain aspects of it to increase the odds of it succeeding.
That sounds like a pretty forlorn hope given so much of the details have been revealed.
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Post by stevep on Aug 15, 2020 15:13:13 GMT
July 2, 1957 Central Sumatra, Indonesia Filipino CIA paramilitary officers met with Colonels Hussein and Sumual to begin assisting them in their planned rebellion against the government of President Sukarno. Filipino officers were chosen as they would be able to better blend in with the general populace. The first order of business was setting up training camps for the men under the Colonels' command. The second was working out how to equip and supply those forces. The need for modern small arms, light artillery and combat aircraft was acute if the rebellion was to have any chance at all of succeeding. The CIA Operatives had a list of equipment that the CIA could provide, most of it taken from American "boneyards" in the Southwestern United States. The final point was "preparing the battlespace," by conducting psychological warfare. The CIA would finance and set up radio stations throughout Indonesia to broadcast anti-Sukarno propaganda. It was hoped that the rebels would be able to conduct a successful campaign against the government within the next six months to a year. So Indonesia is going to do in the Philippines what China did in Vietnam.
Not sure what your saying here lordroel, ? There are going to be Filipinos involved in the coup attempt, although it sound more like its going to be an extended campaign to try and overthrown Sukarno by an extended campaign. I can't see Indonesia looking on Manila very well assuming that comes out however.
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Post by ssgtc on Aug 15, 2020 19:03:29 GMT
June 28, 1957 Langley, VA, USA Heads were rolling at the CIA. The operation to overthrow Sukarno had only been approved a week previously and already the full details of the operation had been published in a KGB controlled tabloid. Hard questions were being asked in the Directorate of Plans about just how in the hell the Soviets had already found out about this. Several people had suggested canceling the operation outright as it would not have a prayer of succeeding now. Those people were overruled. The operation would continue. Though consideration was given to changing certain aspects of it to increase the odds of it succeeding.
That sounds like a pretty forlorn hope given so much of the details have been revealed.
This was entirely OTL, though a few months early. The KGB found out about the operation THREE DAYS after Eisenhower ordered it. And the details of the operation were published in Blitz under the headline, "The American Plot to Overthrow Sukarno." There operation still went ahead. |
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Post by stevep on Aug 16, 2020 12:57:32 GMT
That sounds like a pretty forlorn hope given so much of the details have been revealed.
This was entirely OTL, though a few months early. The KGB found out about the operation THREE DAYS after Eisenhower ordered it. And the details of the operation were published in Blitz under the headline, "The American Plot to Overthrow Sukarno." There operation still went ahead.
Oh my god!! That was so stupid.
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Post by lordroel on Aug 16, 2020 13:00:51 GMT
This was entirely OTL, though a few months early. The KGB found out about the operation THREE DAYS after Eisenhower ordered it. And the details of the operation were published in Blitz under the headline, "The American Plot to Overthrow Sukarno." There operation still went ahead. Oh my god!! That was so stupid.
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Post by ssgtc on Aug 16, 2020 15:07:30 GMT
Oh my god!! That was so stupid.
Are we speaking about the CIA stevep . I would assume so. Because it was stupid that the CIA still went ahead with the operation despite the USSR and Indonesia knowing all about it. Honestly, the CIA's entire operation in Indonesia can be described as FUBAR. |
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Post by ssgtc on Aug 16, 2020 15:08:46 GMT
July 15, 1957
Tucson, AZ, USA
The twin Wright R-2600 radial engines roared to life for the first time since 1949. The Douglas A-20G Havoc light bomber had been retired from American service eight years earlier. But it was a rugged and simple design and would provide good service to the Indonesian rebels. The particular aircraft was only the first one to be overhauled and returned to service. Nineteen more were also being sent to the Indonesian island of Sulawesi to equip the Rebel force. The CIA had originally planned on sending a different Douglas product, the A-26 Invader. But a shortage of suitable airframes led to the selection of the nearly as capable Havoc being chosen instead.
In another section of the boneyard at Davis-Monthan Air Force Base, a single Pratt & Whitney R-2800 turned over and began to rumble. The Republic P-47 Thunderbolt, known as the Jug by its crews, was another of the aircraft being supplied to the rebel force. Though outdated, the CIA had a very poor opinion of the Indonesian Air Force and felt that the Thunderbolt would be more than suitable for the Rebels.
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Post by ssgtc on Aug 16, 2020 15:09:23 GMT
July 20, 1957
Sulawesi and Sumatra, Indonesia
The first two anti-Sukarno radio stations begin broadcasting in Indonesia. Set up with funding and equipment provided by the CIA, the stations will broadcast their message twenty-fours a day. Beginning with only a small number of listeners, the stations on Sulawesi and Central Sumatra quickly begin to gain popularity. The mix of popular Indonesian and Malayan music with the occasional American song ensured more people began to listen to the rebel stations over Radio Republik Indonesia. And as the popularity of the two stations grew, so did their anti-Sukarno message.
In Jakarta, President Sukarno was furious. All he wanted was what was best for his country. He had tried negotiating with the Rebel forces and finding a common ground with them. While they may disagree on the best path to take get there, they all wanted what was best for Indonesia. And that he could respect. But this was a bridge too far. Calling for General Nassution to join him in his office, the President and the Commanding General of Indonesia's military began to explore their options.
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Post by ssgtc on Aug 16, 2020 15:10:20 GMT
July 28, 1957
Port of Tanjung Perak, East Java, Indonesia
The Soviet Freighter MV Admiral Ushakov arrives in Indonesia carrying the first eight crated MiG-15 trainers for the Indonesian Air Force. The crated aircraft, along with their associated spare parts, are loaded onto trucks for the short trip to Iswahyudi Air Force Base where they will be assembled primarily by Soviet technicians with the Indonesian personnel learning on the job. The first equipment for the Indonesian Ground Controled Intercept stations is also delivered, with the first set being trucked to Iswahyudi along with the aircraft. In addition to the military cargo, the ship also carries Soviet consumer goods and manufactured products. A return cargo of rubber, tin and copper is reloaded into the Admiral Ushakov for her return voyage to Vladivostok. Given the increasingly close relationship between the Soviet Union and Indonesia, the Admiral Ushakov will spend significant amounts of her life plying the trade routes between Russia and the islands of Indonesia.
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Post by lordroel on Aug 16, 2020 15:15:16 GMT
July 28, 1957
Port of Tanjung Perak, East Java, IndonesiaThe Soviet Freighter MV Admiral Ushakov arrives in Indonesia carrying the first eight crated MiG-15 trainers for the Indonesian Air Force. The crated aircraft, along with their associated spare parts, are loaded onto trucks for the short trip to Iswahyudi Air Force Base where they will be assembled primarily by Soviet technicians with the Indonesian personnel learning on the job. The first equipment for the Indonesian Ground Controled Intercept stations is also delivered, with the first set being trucked to Iswahyudi along with the aircraft. In addition to the military cargo, the ship also carries Soviet consumer goods and manufactured products. A return cargo of rubber, tin and copper is reloaded into the Admiral Ushakov for her return voyage to Vladivostok. Given the increasingly close relationship between the Soviet Union and Indonesia, the Admiral Ushakov will spend significant amounts of her life plying the trade routes between Russia and the islands of Indonesia. So are we going to see anything like this being transferred to the Indonesians as OTL was done in 1962.  |
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Post by archibald on Aug 16, 2020 15:28:31 GMT
Ah... the Sverdlovsk class Ordzenikidze (terrible name, sorry). It was the same ship that led to the misterious death of Lionel Crabb some years earlier.
Icing on the cake: the Buccaneer was created expressedly to deal with these monsters... lobbing a tactical nuke into their faces.
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Post by ssgtc on Aug 16, 2020 15:31:24 GMT
It's possible. Though I haven't fully decided yet if Indonesia will want the cruiser or if they're going to focus on airpower. Odds are, they will eventually want at least a light cruiser to serve as a deterrent and fleet flagship.
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Post by ssgtc on Aug 16, 2020 15:42:45 GMT
Ah... the Sverdlovsk class Ordzenikidze (terrible name, sorry). It was the same ship that led to the misterious death of Lionel Crabb some years earlier. Icing on the cake: the Buccaneer was created expressedly to deal with these monsters... lobbing a tactical nuke into their faces. Yeah, the 1950s were more than a little nuke happy. It seemed that the solution to every problem was "nuke it." |
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