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Post by James G on Apr 29, 2020 19:16:59 GMT
58 – Leap-frogging
The mission for Coalition forces operating in the Kola, in the very northwest of Russia, is to continue their advance deeper into Union territory here. They’ve already won control of the Norwegian border region, the extensive naval anchorages along the Barents Sea shoreline and the Murmansk-Severomorsk area. A retreat has been made though of survivors some distance away to the south. This has seen a defensive position being established all the way down in the Kandalaksha area where local geography allows for a bottle-head to be formed due to the Finnish border on one side and the waters of the White Sea on the other. Orders for the US I Corps are to eliminate those defenders and carry on opening up this flank of the Union forcing them to direct attention this way. Getting to Kandalaksha means crossing difficult terrain. This is the height of summer but it is no time for shorts and sandals. Arctic conditions have been encountered since arrival here on Union soil by the American, British and Norwegian forces. For the Norwegians, but also the forces of their allies trained in Arctic warfare, such conditions have been met in peacetime exercises back in the north of Norway. Experience doesn’t mean they are easy to handle though. Unpredictable weather patterns with wind, cold and rain are abundant. The Kola Peninsula isn’t flush with transportation links inland which can provide an easy movement overland down towards Kandalaksha. Going off-road poses the problem of marshland and thick forests. Only one major road runs south yet it is somewhere that is sure to be the target of enemy activity to limit its usefulness. This brings about comparisons for those here of Cold War NATO plans for the defence of Norway with the north of that country being crossed by only one road that they would have made passage through hell for an attacker. In another similarity, there are many airbases spread throughout the Kola along the line of advance that the attacking Coalition forces aim to seize. Soviet forces attacking into Norway in hypothetical wartime scenarios were likewise to have focused on Norwegian ones as now in a real war, the Coalition seeks to take control of Union ones.
Moving forward first are the Americans. The 10th Mountain Division strikes southwards from out of Murmansk and Severomorsk. They use helicopters to begin a leap-frogging advance. There’s nowhere near enough lift for everyone but that isn’t the intention. Flying weather isn’t the greatest though there is a lot of ground covered through today as they follow the course of the Kola River upstream as it runs deep inland. That waterway is shadowed by the southwards-running main road and at points along it infantrymen are deposited from the air in what are raiding missions to hunt for the enemy. They find no enemy units waiting for them though. Spetsnaz are whom the Americans are waiting for to make a show rather than any absent Union Army troops but they meet none of those commandos all the way down to Olenegorsk. There are just none of them here to take shots at the helicopters, call-in shelling upon arriving troops nor be waiting in roadside ambushes. At the nearby Olenya Airbase, the 10th Mountain Division discovers that the whole facility has been blown apart in demolition work done by Union forces to deny its use by the Coalition. Air reconnaissance had already pointed to many of those demolitions but once on the ground at this Union Navy aviation base, the Americans find out just how widespread that has been. Airfield engineers arrive soon afterwards and begin work here but they have a lot on their hands. The tower, hangars, hardened aircraft shelters and every other building is either down or has been blown apart without final collapse. The runway and taxiways are covered with shrapnel along with a holes from explosive blasts. Union demolition efforts saw these being shelled by mortars fused for both air- & ground-burst to make sure that before they could be reused they need first to be patched up and then fully swept to make sure that there is no danger from foreign object damage to aircraft engines. Those soldiers and engineers are all in their NBC suits when at Olenya. Intelligence ahead of their arrival told of the employment of air-bursting chemical shells over the airbase too as a last measure during Union demolitions. They gassed the place, using persistent agents in quantity to make Olenya somewhere needing much decontamination as well. The clean-up here begins and isn’t going to be easy.
Olenya is across on the other side of Lake Permusozero from where Olenegorsk is. That town has lost more than half of its population with residents leaving in the past few days fearing fighting coming to their town. No one stopped them running and Olenegorsk is devoid of any form of authority. There’s been looting and violence here among remaining residents. The 10th Mountain Division’s third brigade is formed of reservists from the 205th Infantry Brigade. They arrive in the town late in the day, coming in by road after being trucked down from Murmansk. Detachments are directed to assist in trying to maintain security around Olenegorsk. It is an unwelcome duty but one done. The presence of many armed soldiers here ends the lawlessness. Other divisional troops, regulars a long way from their peacetime base at Fort Drum in New York state, are active in the wider area. There is a ballistic missile radar site outside of Olenegorsk that was blasted by cruise missiles when the war started and soldiers escort intelligence personnel from the corps’ staff (and also DIA & NSA people) to there to see what information can be gained from such a place. Much attention is paid to what is south of the town. The advance has halted for now but once it restarts again, the 10th Mountain Division will be active much further onwards. They need to be ready to do so and so forward patrols are run deep as divisional units catch up. Sweeps are made for a hidden enemy presence and also to check out where mines might be laid. No Union commandos are encountered though. The Americans continue to find the whole area devoid of an opponent. When that evacuation order came the other day from Union forces in the Kola, it has meant a complete pull-out with no one here to harass the occupiers.
Royal Marines and US Marines are moving behind the US Army. The Norwegian 6th Division will follow starting tomorrow, yet today the 3rd Commando Brigade and 4th Marine Expeditionary Brigade are going south too. They are a long way now from the amphibious assault ships which brought them into the Kola upon the surprise landing of the Union’s shoreline. Helicopters are now flying from land rather than the decks of mini-carriers. They are airlifting cargo where needed, but on the ground, the British move in trucks while the Americans go forward in their armoured vehicles. The latter have tanks as well as tracked & wheeled armoured personnel carriers. Those M-1A1 Abrams’ are out front for the US Marines. The 4th Marine Expeditionary Brigade is off-road in the difficult terrain between the Kola River and the Finnish border and makes excellent progress. They’re weary of an ambush and so should one be sprung, those tanks are ready to open fire with everything they have. No firing comes though. The 10th Mountain Division declares the way ahead clear for the 3rd Commando Brigade and the British head down an already cleared path yet likewise are on their guard while moving for anyone hiding who might have been missed. Neither brigade comes into Olenegorsk though. The I Corps doesn’t want to fill that area with a mass of forces where they will all be bunched up. Orders coming from General McCaffrey and his European Command headquarters staff are to beware of doing such a thing just in case Gromov decides to make a show of strength with nuclear use in a ‘quiet’ area like the Kola. The I Corps is already spread out so as to not be an easy target for a massed enemy air strike though pay much attention to that other concern. It is something being shared across Coalition forces.
Olenya is just one of many airbases in the central parts of Kola that Union forces have abandoned. Located around the Imandra Lakes, and also other nearby bodies of water which feed towards the distant Barents Sea too, there are many facilities long ago constructed by the Soviet Armed Forces here to support both naval air operations and trans-continental bombs runs if need be. The Union has pulled their aircraft out of the sites at Afrikanda, Kirovsk, Lovozero, Monchegorsk and Umbozero and conducted demolitions since the strategic withdrawal was ordered from the Kola. The destruction caused at Olenya is only matched by that at the nearby Monchegorsk Airbase yet the others have been damaged quite a bit too. Green Berets from the 12th Reserve Special Forces Group (with regulars attached for wartime purposes to aid the reservists) are active around them. They are encountering Spetsnaz that are absent further northwards. These Union commandos either spring ambushes on the Americans ones or are ambushed themselves. Fierce fighting between small groups of well-armed and motivated soldiers erupt through forests and on the edges of half-abandoned human settlements. The Americans want to rid the area of the enemy starting now rather than waiting for larger forces to arrive to make the eventual Coalition use of these places come quicker than they would otherwise come on-line. Those here to make Coalition air activity impossible put up a good show. They will not be rolled over and nowhere near enough of them are engaged by the Green Berets as the Americans think that they are meeting with. Plenty of these Spetsnaz teams have gone to ground and are waiting for the Coalition to start filling those airbases with their own aircraft.
There are other captured Union airbases in Coalition hands, ones further north where there is already air activity from. In addition, Coalition air power in the region comes from aircraft carriers off-shore that are making use of the support that comes from having access to land bases when they need to as well: as divert sites for battle-damaged aircraft and for refuelling purposes too. Air strikes are going in towards the Kandalaksha area. There is a Union Army division which has come up from Karelia to hold the line at Kandalaksha. It wasn’t at full strength when it arrived and all of the bombs dropped upon are lowering the remaining capability even more. A lot of the 111th Motor Rifle Division will not be around for the fight that comes when the I Corps gets here. These air strikes today aren’t the first and nor will they be the last. Attacks are being made further afield too. Across the White Sea, bombs rain down upon military targets in Arkhangelsk and Severodvinsk today. Daylight air attacks take place where previously there have only been night-time ones. This is because Union air defences even that far away have now been degraded enough to allow them to happen with only minimal risk to the attackers. Back to the carriers or the airbases near to the Barents Sea in Coalition hands those aircraft return. Detailed plans have already been made to soon have more air strikes flown from those enemy-abandoned airbases further south which friendly forces are approaching. As is the case on land, in the air the Coalition carries on hitting the Union’s northern flank to make sure that not every defence can be thrown at the Western Front by Gromov’s forces.
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Post by stevep on Apr 30, 2020 10:45:36 GMT
58 – Leap-froggingThe mission for Coalition forces operating in the Kola, in the very northwest of Russia, is to continue their advance deeper into Union territory here. They’ve already won control of the Norwegian border region, the extensive naval anchorages along the Barents Sea shoreline and the Murmansk-Severomorsk area. A retreat has been made though of survivors some distance away to the south. This has seen a defensive position being established all the way down in the Kandalaksha area where local geography allows for a bottle-head to be formed due to the Finnish border on one side and the waters of the White Sea on the other. Orders for the US I Corps are to eliminate those defenders and carry on opening up this flank of the Union forcing them to direct attention this way. Getting to Kandalaksha means crossing difficult terrain. This is the height of summer but it is no time for shorts and sandals. Arctic conditions have been encountered since arrival here on Union soil by the American, British and Norwegian forces. For the Norwegians, but also the forces of their allies trained in Arctic warfare, such conditions have been met in peacetime exercises back in the north of Norway. Experience doesn’t mean they are easy to handle though. Unpredictable weather patterns with wind, cold and rain are abundant. The Kola Peninsula isn’t flush with transportation links inland which can provide an easy movement overland down towards Kandalaksha. Going off-road poses the problem of marshland and thick forests. Only one major road runs south yet it is somewhere that is sure to be the target of enemy activity to limit its usefulness. This brings about comparisons for those here of Cold War NATO plans for the defence of Norway with the north of that country being crossed by only one road that they would have made passage through hell for an attacker. In another similarity, there are many airbases spread throughout the Kola along the line of advance that the attacking Coalition forces aim to seize. Soviet forces attacking into Norway in hypothetical wartime scenarios were likewise to have focused on Norwegian ones as now in a real war, the Coalition seeks to take control of Union ones. Moving forward first are the Americans. The 10th Mountain Division strikes southwards from out of Murmansk and Severomorsk. They use helicopters to begin a leap-frogging advance. There’s nowhere near enough lift for everyone but that isn’t the intention. Flying weather isn’t the greatest though there is a lot of ground covered through today as they follow the course of the Kola River upstream as it runs deep inland. That waterway is shadowed by the southwards-running main road and at points along it infantrymen are deposited from the air in what are raiding missions to hunt for the enemy. They find no enemy units waiting for them though. Spetsnaz are whom the Americans are waiting for to make a show rather than any absent Union Army troops but they meet none of those commandos all the way down to Olenegorsk. There are just none of them here to take shots at the helicopters, call-in shelling upon arriving troops nor be waiting in roadside ambushes. At the nearby Olenya Airbase, the 10th Mountain Division discovers that the whole facility has been blown apart in demolition work done by Union forces to deny its use by the Coalition. Air reconnaissance had already pointed to many of those demolitions but once on the ground at this Union Navy aviation base, the Americans find out just how widespread that has been. Airfield engineers arrive soon afterwards and begin work here but they have a lot on their hands. The tower, hangars, hardened aircraft shelters and every other building is either down or has been blown apart without final collapse. The runway and taxiways are covered with shrapnel along with a holes from explosive blasts. Union demolition efforts saw these being shelled by mortars fused for both air- & ground-burst to make sure that before they could be reused they need first to be patched up and then fully swept to make sure that there is no danger from foreign object damage to aircraft engines. Those soldiers and engineers are all in their NBC suits when at Olenya. Intelligence ahead of their arrival told of the employment of air-bursting chemical shells over the airbase too as a last measure during Union demolitions. They gassed the place, using persistent agents in quantity to make Olenya somewhere needing much decontamination as well. The clean-up here begins and isn’t going to be easy. Olenya is across on the other side of Lake Permusozero from where Olenegorsk is. That town has lost more than half of its population with residents leaving in the past few days fearing fighting coming to their town. No one stopped them running and Olenegorsk is devoid of any form of authority. There’s been looting and violence here among remaining residents. The 10th Mountain Division’s third brigade is formed of reservists from the 205th Infantry Brigade. They arrive in the town late in the day, coming in by road after being trucked down from Murmansk. Detachments are directed to assist in trying to maintain security around Olenegorsk. It is an unwelcome duty but one done. The presence of many armed soldiers here ends the lawlessness. Other divisional troops, regulars a long way from their peacetime base at Fort Drum in New York state, are active in the wider area. There is a ballistic missile radar site outside of Olenegorsk that was blasted by cruise missiles when the war started and soldiers escort intelligence personnel from the corps’ staff (and also DIA & NSA people) to there to see what information can be gained from such a place. Much attention is paid to what is south of the town. The advance has halted for now but once it restarts again, the 10th Mountain Division will be active much further onwards. They need to be ready to do so and so forward patrols are run deep as divisional units catch up. Sweeps are made for a hidden enemy presence and also to check out where mines might be laid. No Union commandos are encountered though. The Americans continue to find the whole area devoid of an opponent. When that evacuation order came the other day from Union forces in the Kola, it has meant a complete pull-out with no one here to harass the occupiers. Royal Marines and US Marines are moving behind the US Army. The Norwegian 6th Division will follow starting tomorrow, yet today the 3rd Commando Brigade and 4th Marine Expeditionary Brigade are going south too. They are a long way now from the amphibious assault ships which brought them into the Kola upon the surprise landing of the Union’s shoreline. Helicopters are now flying from land rather than the decks of mini-carriers. They are airlifting cargo where needed, but on the ground, the British move in trucks while the Americans go forward in their armoured vehicles. The latter have tanks as well as tracked & wheeled armoured personnel carriers. Those M-1A1 Abrams’ are out front for the US Marines. The 4th Marine Expeditionary Brigade is off-road in the difficult terrain between the Kola River and the Finnish border and makes excellent progress. They’re weary of an ambush and so should one be sprung, those tanks are ready to open fire with everything they have. No firing comes though. The 10th Mountain Division declares the way ahead clear for the 3rd Commando Brigade and the British head down an already cleared path yet likewise are on their guard while moving for anyone hiding who might have bene missed. Neither brigade comes into Olenegorsk though. The I Corps doesn’t want to fill that area with a mass of forces where they will all be bunched up. Orders coming from General McCaffrey and his European Command headquarters staff are to beware of doing such a thing just in case Gromov decides to make a show of strength with nuclear use in a ‘quite’ area like the Kola. The I Corps is already spread out so as to not be an easy target for a massed enemy air strike though pay much attention to that other concern. It is something being shared across Coalition forces. Olenya is just one of many airbases in the central parts of Kola that Union forces have abandoned. Located around the Imandra Lakes, and also other nearby bodies of water which feed towards the distant Barents Sea too, there are many facilities long ago constructed by the Soviet Armed Forces here to support both naval air operations and trans-continental bombs runs if need be. The Union has pulled their aircraft out of the sites at Afrikanda, Kirovsk, Lovozero, Monchegorsk and Umbozero and conducted demolitions since the strategic withdrawal was ordered from the Kola. The destruction caused at Olenya is only matched by that at the nearby Monchegorsk Airbase yet the others have been damaged quite a bit too. Green Berets from the 12th Reserve Special Forces Group (with regulars attached for wartime purposes to aid the reservists) are active around them. They are encountering Spetsnaz that are absent further northwards. These Union commandos either spring ambushes on the Americans ones or are ambushed themselves. Fierce fighting between small groups of well-armed and motivated soldiers erupt through forests and on the edges of half-abandoned human settlements. The Americans want to rid the area of the enemy starting now rather than waiting for larger forces to arrive to make the eventual Coalition use of these places come quicker than they would otherwise come on-line. Those here to make Coalition air activity impossible put up a good show. They will not be rolled over and nowhere near enough of them are engaged by the Green Berets as the Americans think that they are meeting with. Plenty of these Spetsnaz teams have gone to ground and are waiting for the Coalition to start filling those airbases with their own aircraft. There are other captured Union airbases in Coalition hands, ones further north where there is already air activity from. In addition, Coalition air power in the region comes from aircraft carriers off-shore that are making use of the support that comes from having access to land bases when they need to as well: as divert sites for battle-damaged aircraft and for refuelling purposes too. Air strikes are going in towards the Kandalaksha area. There is a Union Army division which has come up from Karelia to hold the line at Kandalaksha. It wasn’t at full strength when it arrived and all of the bombs dropped upon are lowering the remaining capability even more. A lot of the 111th Motor Rifle Division will not be around for the fight that comes when the I Corps gets here. These air strikes today aren’t the first and nor will they be the last. Attacks are being made further afield too. Across the White Sea, bombs rain down upon military targets in Arkhangelsk and Severodvinsk today. Daylight air attacks take place where previously there have only been night-time ones. This is because Union air defences even that far away have now been degraded enough to allow them to happen with only minimal risk to the attackers. Back to the carriers or the airbases near to the Barents Sea in Coalition hands those aircraft return. Detailed plans have already been made to soon have more air strikes flown from those enemy-abandoned airbases further south which friendly forces are approaching. As is the case on land, in the air the Coalition carries on hitting the Union’s northern flank to make sure that not every defence can be thrown at the Western Front by Gromov’s forces.
Is this a case of mission creep? I thought you said in an earlier chapter that the allies had no intent of pushing further and were happy to have Union forces tied up establishing a defensive line that would be ignored. That sounded like a good idea at the time and even more now given that the retreating Union forces have dismantled so much infrastructure and the difficult terrain. Seems like its going to be a resource sink for the allies rather than the Union this way.
Alternatively, given its winter would it be better using air and naval forces for landings behind the defensive line - depending on the coastline for the Kandalaksha portion of the White Sea or a bit further south.
One small typo in that you have
Should be quiet rather than quite. He would be stupid to use nukes on Union territory as it gives an excuse for the allies to use tactical nukes against his own forces. If he's going to use them, possibly with a short ultimatum warning requiring a cease fire it would need to be on allied territory, preferably for his purposes a military target in the US.
Steve
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Post by James G on Apr 30, 2020 19:32:06 GMT
58 – Leap-froggingThe mission for Coalition forces operating in the Kola, in the very northwest of Russia, is to continue their advance deeper into Union territory here. They’ve already won control of the Norwegian border region, the extensive naval anchorages along the Barents Sea shoreline and the Murmansk-Severomorsk area. A retreat has been made though of survivors some distance away to the south. This has seen a defensive position being established all the way down in the Kandalaksha area where local geography allows for a bottle-head to be formed due to the Finnish border on one side and the waters of the White Sea on the other. Orders for the US I Corps are to eliminate those defenders and carry on opening up this flank of the Union forcing them to direct attention this way. Getting to Kandalaksha means crossing difficult terrain. This is the height of summer but it is no time for shorts and sandals. Arctic conditions have been encountered since arrival here on Union soil by the American, British and Norwegian forces. For the Norwegians, but also the forces of their allies trained in Arctic warfare, such conditions have been met in peacetime exercises back in the north of Norway. Experience doesn’t mean they are easy to handle though. Unpredictable weather patterns with wind, cold and rain are abundant. The Kola Peninsula isn’t flush with transportation links inland which can provide an easy movement overland down towards Kandalaksha. Going off-road poses the problem of marshland and thick forests. Only one major road runs south yet it is somewhere that is sure to be the target of enemy activity to limit its usefulness. This brings about comparisons for those here of Cold War NATO plans for the defence of Norway with the north of that country being crossed by only one road that they would have made passage through hell for an attacker. In another similarity, there are many airbases spread throughout the Kola along the line of advance that the attacking Coalition forces aim to seize. Soviet forces attacking into Norway in hypothetical wartime scenarios were likewise to have focused on Norwegian ones as now in a real war, the Coalition seeks to take control of Union ones. Moving forward first are the Americans. The 10th Mountain Division strikes southwards from out of Murmansk and Severomorsk. They use helicopters to begin a leap-frogging advance. There’s nowhere near enough lift for everyone but that isn’t the intention. Flying weather isn’t the greatest though there is a lot of ground covered through today as they follow the course of the Kola River upstream as it runs deep inland. That waterway is shadowed by the southwards-running main road and at points along it infantrymen are deposited from the air in what are raiding missions to hunt for the enemy. They find no enemy units waiting for them though. Spetsnaz are whom the Americans are waiting for to make a show rather than any absent Union Army troops but they meet none of those commandos all the way down to Olenegorsk. There are just none of them here to take shots at the helicopters, call-in shelling upon arriving troops nor be waiting in roadside ambushes. At the nearby Olenya Airbase, the 10th Mountain Division discovers that the whole facility has been blown apart in demolition work done by Union forces to deny its use by the Coalition. Air reconnaissance had already pointed to many of those demolitions but once on the ground at this Union Navy aviation base, the Americans find out just how widespread that has been. Airfield engineers arrive soon afterwards and begin work here but they have a lot on their hands. The tower, hangars, hardened aircraft shelters and every other building is either down or has been blown apart without final collapse. The runway and taxiways are covered with shrapnel along with a holes from explosive blasts. Union demolition efforts saw these being shelled by mortars fused for both air- & ground-burst to make sure that before they could be reused they need first to be patched up and then fully swept to make sure that there is no danger from foreign object damage to aircraft engines. Those soldiers and engineers are all in their NBC suits when at Olenya. Intelligence ahead of their arrival told of the employment of air-bursting chemical shells over the airbase too as a last measure during Union demolitions. They gassed the place, using persistent agents in quantity to make Olenya somewhere needing much decontamination as well. The clean-up here begins and isn’t going to be easy. Olenya is across on the other side of Lake Permusozero from where Olenegorsk is. That town has lost more than half of its population with residents leaving in the past few days fearing fighting coming to their town. No one stopped them running and Olenegorsk is devoid of any form of authority. There’s been looting and violence here among remaining residents. The 10th Mountain Division’s third brigade is formed of reservists from the 205th Infantry Brigade. They arrive in the town late in the day, coming in by road after being trucked down from Murmansk. Detachments are directed to assist in trying to maintain security around Olenegorsk. It is an unwelcome duty but one done. The presence of many armed soldiers here ends the lawlessness. Other divisional troops, regulars a long way from their peacetime base at Fort Drum in New York state, are active in the wider area. There is a ballistic missile radar site outside of Olenegorsk that was blasted by cruise missiles when the war started and soldiers escort intelligence personnel from the corps’ staff (and also DIA & NSA people) to there to see what information can be gained from such a place. Much attention is paid to what is south of the town. The advance has halted for now but once it restarts again, the 10th Mountain Division will be active much further onwards. They need to be ready to do so and so forward patrols are run deep as divisional units catch up. Sweeps are made for a hidden enemy presence and also to check out where mines might be laid. No Union commandos are encountered though. The Americans continue to find the whole area devoid of an opponent. When that evacuation order came the other day from Union forces in the Kola, it has meant a complete pull-out with no one here to harass the occupiers. Royal Marines and US Marines are moving behind the US Army. The Norwegian 6th Division will follow starting tomorrow, yet today the 3rd Commando Brigade and 4th Marine Expeditionary Brigade are going south too. They are a long way now from the amphibious assault ships which brought them into the Kola upon the surprise landing of the Union’s shoreline. Helicopters are now flying from land rather than the decks of mini-carriers. They are airlifting cargo where needed, but on the ground, the British move in trucks while the Americans go forward in their armoured vehicles. The latter have tanks as well as tracked & wheeled armoured personnel carriers. Those M-1A1 Abrams’ are out front for the US Marines. The 4th Marine Expeditionary Brigade is off-road in the difficult terrain between the Kola River and the Finnish border and makes excellent progress. They’re weary of an ambush and so should one be sprung, those tanks are ready to open fire with everything they have. No firing comes though. The 10th Mountain Division declares the way ahead clear for the 3rd Commando Brigade and the British head down an already cleared path yet likewise are on their guard while moving for anyone hiding who might have bene missed. Neither brigade comes into Olenegorsk though. The I Corps doesn’t want to fill that area with a mass of forces where they will all be bunched up. Orders coming from General McCaffrey and his European Command headquarters staff are to beware of doing such a thing just in case Gromov decides to make a show of strength with nuclear use in a ‘quite’ area like the Kola. The I Corps is already spread out so as to not be an easy target for a massed enemy air strike though pay much attention to that other concern. It is something being shared across Coalition forces. Olenya is just one of many airbases in the central parts of Kola that Union forces have abandoned. Located around the Imandra Lakes, and also other nearby bodies of water which feed towards the distant Barents Sea too, there are many facilities long ago constructed by the Soviet Armed Forces here to support both naval air operations and trans-continental bombs runs if need be. The Union has pulled their aircraft out of the sites at Afrikanda, Kirovsk, Lovozero, Monchegorsk and Umbozero and conducted demolitions since the strategic withdrawal was ordered from the Kola. The destruction caused at Olenya is only matched by that at the nearby Monchegorsk Airbase yet the others have been damaged quite a bit too. Green Berets from the 12th Reserve Special Forces Group (with regulars attached for wartime purposes to aid the reservists) are active around them. They are encountering Spetsnaz that are absent further northwards. These Union commandos either spring ambushes on the Americans ones or are ambushed themselves. Fierce fighting between small groups of well-armed and motivated soldiers erupt through forests and on the edges of half-abandoned human settlements. The Americans want to rid the area of the enemy starting now rather than waiting for larger forces to arrive to make the eventual Coalition use of these places come quicker than they would otherwise come on-line. Those here to make Coalition air activity impossible put up a good show. They will not be rolled over and nowhere near enough of them are engaged by the Green Berets as the Americans think that they are meeting with. Plenty of these Spetsnaz teams have gone to ground and are waiting for the Coalition to start filling those airbases with their own aircraft. There are other captured Union airbases in Coalition hands, ones further north where there is already air activity from. In addition, Coalition air power in the region comes from aircraft carriers off-shore that are making use of the support that comes from having access to land bases when they need to as well: as divert sites for battle-damaged aircraft and for refuelling purposes too. Air strikes are going in towards the Kandalaksha area. There is a Union Army division which has come up from Karelia to hold the line at Kandalaksha. It wasn’t at full strength when it arrived and all of the bombs dropped upon are lowering the remaining capability even more. A lot of the 111th Motor Rifle Division will not be around for the fight that comes when the I Corps gets here. These air strikes today aren’t the first and nor will they be the last. Attacks are being made further afield too. Across the White Sea, bombs rain down upon military targets in Arkhangelsk and Severodvinsk today. Daylight air attacks take place where previously there have only been night-time ones. This is because Union air defences even that far away have now been degraded enough to allow them to happen with only minimal risk to the attackers. Back to the carriers or the airbases near to the Barents Sea in Coalition hands those aircraft return. Detailed plans have already been made to soon have more air strikes flown from those enemy-abandoned airbases further south which friendly forces are approaching. As is the case on land, in the air the Coalition carries on hitting the Union’s northern flank to make sure that not every defence can be thrown at the Western Front by Gromov’s forces.
Is this a case of mission creep? I thought you said in an earlier chapter that the allies had no intent of pushing further and were happy to have Union forces tied up establishing a defensive line that would be ignored. That sounded like a good idea at the time and even more now given that the retreating Union forces have dismantled so much infrastructure and the difficult terrain. Seems like its going to be a resource sink for the allies rather than the Union this way.
Alternatively, given its winter would it be better using air and naval forces for landings behind the defensive line - depending on the coastline for the Kandalaksha portion of the White Sea or a bit further south.
One small typo in that you have
Should be quiet rather than quite. He would be stupid to use nukes on Union territory as it gives an excuse for the allies to use tactical nukes against his own forces. If he's going to use them, possibly with a short ultimatum warning requiring a cease fire it would need to be on allied territory, preferably for his purposes a military target in the US.
Steve
I had a proper look through what I have and can't see where that would be with regards to Kola. With the amphibious landings in the Crimea I have them not going out of there into the Caucasus (instead up into the Ukraine), but I don't think I have that with the Kola. If I'm mistaken, then that's a problem. It'll be my mission creep too! The coastline in the north is difficult. Archangelsk-Severodvinsk is full of many targets but any that means really taken control of the White Sea if an amphib op is to go that way. It'll be somewhere full of mines and coastal raiders. Kandalaksha and then south down the Finnish border seems to be less dangerous. I'll fix the typo, thank you. Yep, that nuke threat doesn't seem likely on home soil. Coalition forces are weary of it though and where they can, they aren't bunching up.
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59 – An independent Ukraine
The Coalition knows the detailed orders which the Union’s Eighth Guards Army have due the earlier complete interception of those via electronic eavesdropping. Gromov’s STAVKA has brought them out of Kazakhstan, through southern Russia and into the Ukraine to strike at the flank of American forces moving up against Moscow. The plan is to make their attack when inside the eastern part of the Ukraine. This is something drafted before today where the US III Corps makes excellent progress in getting away from its Ukrainian start-lines and deep into Russia though. The orders currently still stand for the Eighth Guards Army: they are to undertake that projected sweeping move against the American’s right flank regardless. The Western Front’s commander reports to STAVKA that he believes the majority of the III Corps is still inside the Ukraine and even if it gets forward (as he doesn’t yet understand), the Eighth Guards Army will reach the northern reaches of the Ukraine and completely cut their supply lines. In addition, he claims that Kiev will be retaken as part of this. STAVKA is satisfied with this when last night that modifying of the objective, but not the actions, for the attack is put to them. By tonight, when it becomes clear just how far ahead the Americans are, things will be very different yet the orders remain as they are today… those compromised orders too. Knowing where the Eighth Guards Army is, in what strength and where it is going means that not only are Coalition forces in position to head the Union forces off on the ground but they can bring their air power into play with great effect. Lead units from neither of the three combat divisions moving through the eastern Ukraine have yet to reach Coalition troops but they are targets for massed air action. American aircraft fly eastwards through Ukrainian skies on their strike missions. They are sent towards where they can find columns of tanks, armoured vehicles and trucks all waiting for their payloads.
The Eighth Guards Army has its own anti-air network to cover it while it moves in the absence of any fixed defences following previous Coalition strikes in the Ukraine. It is no easy thing for Union forces to do when they are trying to cover their widely spread units on the move. There are gaps everywhere and these are exploited by incoming attacking aircraft. The Americans have been doing this for days, hitting other Union ground forces in the Ukraine, and know exactly what they are doing. Aircraft on Wild Weasel and Iron Hand missions target the air defences specifically to allow for other strike aircraft to target the mass of armour, troops and supplies on the move. Columns are halted with short-range missiles fired at leading vehicles and then aircraft come in on bomb runs. Waves of death and destruction are unleashed upon the Eighth Guards Army. Much of the attention is focused upon the 79th Guards Tank Division. A few years ago, this formation was in East Germany and one of the units with a Frankfurt mission under Soviet war plans. Today it is in the Ukraine and being blown apart as it tries to cross the Dnieper River to advance along the western side of that river – with the 20th & 39th Guards Motor Rifle Divisions on the eastern side – in that planned Union grand attack. The T-80 tanks, BMP-2 infantry fighting vehicles, BTR-70 armoured personnel carriers and 2S3 self-propelled guns are all meant to be tearing into exposed American supply lines stretching back from Kiev all the way to Poland. Instead they are being blown up or knocked out of action while their crews are massacred from above. The 79th Guards Tank Division isn’t completely wiped out but it isn’t getting over the Dnieper today and is in no fit state to see combat operations after these repeated American air attacks. With hits to the other elements of the Eighth Guards Army, that projected masterstroke to deliver a death blow to the American advance into Russia either before the III Corps can get going or once they are is now nothing but a foolish dream. American forces waiting in the way of the 20th & 39th Guards Motor Rifle Divisions (also well-equipped units like the tank division) will have to face them soon enough but they will meet a weakened enemy when that happens and not have to worry about their flank being turned.
The Poles enter Vinnytsia. Their I Corps continues to move through western Ukraine and they secure access past this city before then going onwards as far as Uman too. Opposition to them has evaporated. Ukrainian rebels meet with them and while they do view the arriving Poles suspiciously, they are still opening up their country to the progress of the I Corps as it takes more ground. Union rule of the Ukraine is no more through the areas of the nation which they are advancing across. Mass desertions and munities are taking place of scattered groups of security forces and rear-area forces. There are no regular Union Army forces anywhere after defeat several days ago near the border. Reservists aren’t turning out either for the Union: where men do show up at mobilisation stations, they are there to fight for the Ukraine instead. Things are still very much uncoordinated with the Ukrainian rebellion but the Union cannot take advantage of that. Polish tanks keep on moving while covered by American aircraft as they link up with more rebels who are now showing themselves in great numbers. Uman isn’t the last stop for the Poles, not by a long shot. They have orders to keep on going, to reach as far east as they can. The Dnieper from Kremenchuk to Dnipropetrovsk is their immediate objective. If the 79th Guards Tank Division hadn’t been stopped today by American air strikes, the Poles would have been in position to counter them doing what they intended to do this side of the Dnieper. With that Union force on the wrong side of the river, the Poles, led by their 11th Armored Cavalry Division, and followed by two lesser-quality mechanised divisions, fulfil their orders to keep on liberating more of the Ukraine while the Union can do nothing to halt their progress.
The Eastern European Corps is advancing on the Poles’ right flank, between them and Moldova. This force of Czechs, Hungarians, Slovaks and a few Americans is now striking southeast rather than directly east. They cross through undefended territory in the western Ukraine where sudden rebels are out in force and do their best to help their progress forward. Balta and Pervomaisk are reached. The latter small city sits on the Dnepr River and when the American’s 157th Infantry Brigade reaches here, the Army Reserve soldiers provide escort for an intelligence team which ‘visits’ ICBM silos nearby. They are empty of the once many nuclear-tipped missiles which the Pervomaisk-assigned 46th Rocket Division fielded here before the Union under Lebed’s leadership decommissioned so many ICBMs in recent years. There is still plenty of useful intelligence work that can be done at the missile field though and they get to it. Slovak troops will be taking over security tomorrow while the 157th Infantry Brigade continues going deeper into the Ukraine alongside the Czechs and Hungarians. Orders for the Eastern European Corps are for them to keep going until they reach the waters of the Black Sea. Odessa is on the shoreline there and the US Navy is currently active off there with shells from several warships pouring into enemy targets around that historic city. The Union Navy’s Black Sea Fleet is long ago defeated after being caught in port when US Marines arrived in the Crimea but there is a naval presence – just of shore personnel now: no ships nor aircraft – in both Odessa and Mykolaiv along the coast too. The naval shelling is keeping those in Odessa busy (Mykolaiv is too far away) while towards them from the rear comes Coalition ground forces. Those naval personnel have been active in keeping a lid on any Ukrainian rebel activities, but they have well-armed Coalition soldiers with tanks and air support coming their way to soon put an end to their control over these cities.
Kiev fell last night to a brigade of the American’s 4th Infantry Division. Taking the Ukrainian capital was easy enough once done properly following the failure of that previous Thunder Run that had meet well-sited resistance. Spetsnaz snipers backed-up by paramilitary troops given a big task weren’t up to the job of holding back American tanks and infantry once civilians inside rose up in rebellion. Late to the party, Ukrainians in Kiev fought Moscow’s men to allow for their liberation. The US Army soldiers stay in the Ukrainian capital today though they are keen to leave and join with their parent division which is part of the US III Corps and is tearing into Russia while Moscow-bound. It will be an Army National Guard unit which will arrive here to take over responsibility for security tasks at that point. Meanwhile, there are still ‘celebrations’ inside Kiev and this means a dangerous situation with looting, arson, violence and murder too. The Coalition’s allies in the form of the political powerbrokers from Dnipropetrovsk who started the whole Ukrainian revolt arrive in Kiev and find that they aren’t very welcome. There is already a local citizen’s committee formed and while it is very chaotic in nature, they don’t want to listen to those who come here from outside wanting to take over what they consider they themselves have gained. ‘Go back to Dnipro’ is the chant from those in Kiev. Coalition representatives in the city are trying to act as mediators in this. It is no easy task. The Ukraine is already rocked with civil strife elsewhere as many Ukrainians, ethnic Russians in the east especially, are showing their support for the Union. This split in Kiev is different but still very much unwelcome and it highlights many problems for the future. Fears are present that the Ukraine, once cleared of Union forces, might erupt into civil war.
Operation Shuriken is now underway as the US II MEF begins to move from out of the Crimea and into the southern Ukraine proper. Union defences against a continuing advance from the US Marines who won control over that island-like peninsula are concentrated on the Caucasus shore but the II MEF is going north instead of east. The opening moves today for Shuriken are small-scale. There is no need for massed attack making use of extensive firepower to secure landing zones from hostile defenders because there is none of that in the way. The 2nd Marine Division is able to begin the process of transferring its fighting strength into the southern Ukraine from the Crimea unopposed. They are only restricted by how much they can move at once and the local geography rather than anyone trying to stop them. Tanks and Marine Corps armoured vehicles go through the Isthmus of Perekop (long held by Ukrainian rebels out on their own) and across the Arabat Spit as well. Yet, up at Melitopol, a nexus for transportation links to the Crimea from the rest of the Ukraine, where an air-drop was planned today by the battalion of US Army paratroopers attached to the II MEF, that is something which was cancelled overnight though. There are Union forces in number gathered in and around Melitopol spotted by pre-assault reconnaissance with the airbase outside the town being one of the areas where they are concentrated. These are Ukrainians reservists who haven’t answered the call to fight for an independent Ukraine like those in the west of the country. They’re here to fight for the Union and have come from historic Russian-speaking areas of the Ukraine such as Donetsk and Luhansk.
Later intelligence-gathering through today on behalf of the II MEF shows that at Melitopol Airbase there are Union Airborne Troops arriving there to join Moscow-supporting Ukrainians. A regiment of paratroopers has been flown out of the Urals and are arriving in an airlift which has gone undetected while Coalition air activity over the Ukraine has been focused on the Eighth Guards Army. The II MEF can do without the forward airdrop as part of Shuriken: it was to be a forward screen and thus the omitting of it isn’t the end of their mission. The crossing from out of the Crimea made over land & with helicopter movements closer-in carries on as there is no one here to stop them and this is the main movement of force. The II MEF now knows what opposition they will be facing in the coming days too rather than be surprised. Still… it would have been better to have not had this sprung on them as late as it was. One of the reasons why the gathering of enemy units in number around Melitopol isn’t realised until very late is the re-tasking of many air missions from the USS America. That carrier remains assigned to support the US Marines as they move into the southern Ukraine and will be on-hand to cover them as they fight but there is a distraction underway at the moment in another direction. The Marine Corps have their own air power – bad experiences in World War Two taught them to never rely on anyone else fully – and have many aircraft flown by US Marines operating from captured Crimean airbases. Just like the can do with the Melitopol airdrop, they can survive the re-tasking of some of that carrier air power too.
As to that distraction for the America, what's causing it? That would be the ongoing disastrous situation unfolding in Coalition-allied Georgia.
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Post by lordroel on May 1, 2020 10:07:48 GMT
59 – An independent Ukraine Will the collation be in charge of removing Ukraine nuclear weapons it might have.
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Post by stevep on May 1, 2020 10:57:12 GMT
Is this a case of mission creep? I thought you said in an earlier chapter that the allies had no intent of pushing further and were happy to have Union forces tied up establishing a defensive line that would be ignored. That sounded like a good idea at the time and even more now given that the retreating Union forces have dismantled so much infrastructure and the difficult terrain. Seems like its going to be a resource sink for the allies rather than the Union this way.
Alternatively, given its winter would it be better using air and naval forces for landings behind the defensive line - depending on the coastline for the Kandalaksha portion of the White Sea or a bit further south.
One small typo in that you have
Should be quiet rather than quite. He would be stupid to use nukes on Union territory as it gives an excuse for the allies to use tactical nukes against his own forces. If he's going to use them, possibly with a short ultimatum warning requiring a cease fire it would need to be on allied territory, preferably for his purposes a military target in the US.
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I had a proper look through what I have and can't see where that would be with regards to Kola. With the amphibious landings in the Crimea I have them not going out of there into the Caucasus (instead up into the Ukraine), but I don't think I have that with the Kola. If I'm mistaken, then that's a problem. It'll be my mission creep too! The coastline in the north is difficult. Archangelsk-Severodvinsk is full of many targets but any that means really taken control of the White Sea if an amphib op is to go that way. It'll be somewhere full of mines and coastal raiders. Kandalaksha and then south down the Finnish border seems to be less dangerous. I'll fix the typo, thank you. Yep, that nuke threat doesn't seem likely on home soil. Coalition forces are weary of it though and where they can, they aren't bunching up.
Found the bit I was thinking of with regards to the north, in a reply to me on page 13, responding to comments I made about Chapter 44.
I thought this meant that there would be no more action in the far north other than to occupy the highlighted area, which since you said the airbases had been abandon by the Union I assumed was north of the line you mentioned the Union defending. Kirovsk wasn't listed via the general wiki page for that name but I found Kirovsk,_Murmansk_Oblast, which seems to be some way north of those defences according to the linked map, but could be reading things wrong? [If you look at the map to the RHS and click on the option for the local map]. There is an entry for Afrikanda its about on the northern edge of the Kandalakshsky District so going that far would be getting close to if not into the Union defensive position.
Anyway that's why I was thinking the allies wouldn't be running into the Union defences but they would be getting close to them to occupy Afrikanda.
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Post by James G on May 1, 2020 13:35:05 GMT
59 – An independent Ukraine Will the collation be in charge of removing Ukraine nuclear weapons it might have. The Coalition are going to be taking away any Union weapons they can get their hands on. The Ukrainian rebels will surely by now have some of their own too.
Found the bit I was thinking of with regards to the north, in a reply to me on page 13, responding to comments I made about Chapter 44.
With the Kola, yep, that's probably done with. There might be a push to go down to the Kirovsk / Afrikanda area where there are many airbases (all abandoned by the Union) but a full-on advance on Leningrad from behind is out of the question. There is the matter of the Union military presence in Novaya Zemlya though plus known submarines hiding in the Kara Sea: we'll go there in the update after the one below. I thought this meant that there would be no more action in the far north other than to occupy the highlighted area, which since you said the airbases had been abandon by the Union I assumed was north of the line you mentioned the Union defending. Kirovsk wasn't listed via the general wiki page for that name but I found Kirovsk,_Murmansk_Oblast, which seems to be some way north of those defences according to the linked map, but could be reading things wrong? [If you look at the map to the RHS and click on the option for the local map]. There is an entry for Afrikanda its about on the northern edge of the Kandalakshsky District so going that far would be getting close to if not into the Union defensive position.
Anyway that's why I was thinking the allies wouldn't be running into the Union defences but they would be getting close to them to occupy Afrikanda.
Steve
Ah, now I see it. I only looked in my Word doc rather than the comments. So we have a mission creep on my part. They are going to take them airbases to make use of them - elsewhere, many aircraft are now flying from captured bases too - and fight to take at least Kandalaksha. That's my thinking on that: keep pressing on. Leningrad is still too far, so is somewhere like Petrozavodsk, but K seems achievable.
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Post by lordroel on May 1, 2020 13:37:03 GMT
The Coalition are going to be taking away any Union weapons they can get their hands on. The Ukrainian rebels will surely by now have some of their own too. Never a good idea to let rebels to have their own nukes.
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Post by James G on May 1, 2020 13:39:36 GMT
The Coalition are going to be taking away any Union weapons they can get their hands on. The Ukrainian rebels will surely by now have some of their own too. Never a good idea to let rebels to have their own nukes. Especially when they are divided!
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Post by lordroel on May 1, 2020 13:54:56 GMT
Never a good idea to let rebels to have their own nukes. Especially when they are divided! Divided as they hate each so much they have no problem using their nukes on each other.
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Post by James G on May 1, 2020 19:24:21 GMT
Especially when they are divided! Divided as they hate each so much they have no problem using their nukes on each other. the situation hasn't gone that far.
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Post by James G on May 1, 2020 19:25:53 GMT
60 – Georgian rescue mission
There is a Coalition military liaison team in Georgia. They have taken casualties in the past few days of fighting where the war that this small country has chosen to take part in has come home to roost for Georgia. The American, British and Polish officers assigned to the liaison mission in Tbilisi have already left the city and they haven’t been alone in doing so. Many Georgians have likewise evacuated the capital as Union tanks approach and Tbilisi continues to be a target for missile strikes of which some have utilised chemical warheads. Staying in Tbilisi is a bad idea indeed. Today, the Union’s Fourth Army, advancing up from Azerbaijan starting the other day, makes its entry into Tbilisi. Gromov’s forces are in the midst of achieving a victory here in the Caucasus where nearly everywhere else there is only disaster for them.
Tbilisi falls easily. The 295th Motor Rifle Division rolls in under the cover of artillery and rockets but find near zero opposition. When the Battle of Rustavi was won yesterday by the other Fourth Army major combat force, the 23rd Guards Motor Rifle Division, the last significant Georgian forces in the east of their country were beaten. Now, no troops are available to defend their capital close-in. There is supposed to be a last-ditch defence mounted by paramilitary reservists but they’ve either fled or lay down their arms when Union forces reach Tbilisi. If the Georgian Army can’t stop the Fourth Army, how are they meant to? Into a city where fires still burn and there are death zones caused by the unseen killer which is nerve agents now roll T-72s followed by both wheeled & tracked infantry carriers. The crews and riflemen have no one here to fight. That doesn’t stop a few units from opening fire upon ‘suspected’ opposition though. Any looking hostile is shot at. Where riflemen move towards government buildings – those still standing that is – in the centre of Tbilisi, GRU intelligence teams come out of BTR-70s to go into those. They are looking for people and documents. Georgia’s government has already fled and there has been burning of papers but still someone useful information and a few people are around to be rounded up. Across Tbilisi, martial law is announced. Georgian authorities already had that in-place but with the majority of the officials gone along with plenty of armed men, there are people out on the streets. Broadcasts are made from loudspeakers and there are also announcements made over civilian radio channels telling people to go home and stay there. Most people do. Those who don’t obey such instructions regret it. Officers with the 295th Motor Rifle Division try their best to keep their men under control yet there are incidents of looting, rape and murder which take place while they are in Tbilisi. Punishments are given to the worst offenders. The whole city doesn’t descend into chaos with rampaging Union troops, but where those incidents do happen, they are rather unpleasant.
As to the 23rd Guards Motor Rifle Division, they don’t come into Tbilisi. Instead, they are in the mountains some distance away to the south. Their previous fights with the Georgians saw them open the way into the capital for their sister unit to go on and took place across better terrain on the approach to Tbilisi but now their orders have taken them elsewhere. Control is won of Marneuil, a crossroads town which opens up the way ahead down out of the mountains, but the overall going if far slower for them than before. There are scattered Georgian units being encountered who spring ambushes and put up determined if only short resistance at chokepoints. However, securing Marneuil means now that forward progress can be made in getting into better operating ground in the following days. During today, especially as the day gets later and the evening approaches, the 23rd Guards Motor Rifle Division finds itself under air attack. It isn’t the destroyed Georgian Air Force who attack them but instead American aircraft from the US Navy carrier group out in the distant Black Sea. Bombs rain down and missiles slam home. There is little air cover for the Fourth Army from the Union Air Force (they have their remaining aircraft elsewhere) and what air defences the 23rd Guards Motor Rifle Division has aren’t up to the job of stopping the multiple air strikes. It is no fun to be under attack like this. Georgians on the ground can be got at when engaged but the American aircraft make fast attack runs and disappear just as quick as they arrive. Two aircraft are brought down – claims will be made of six kills though – and with neither of those successes do the 23rd Guards Motor Rifle Division manage to get at the ejecting aircrews. The only consolation is the knowledge that soon enough there will be nowhere friendly for enemy aircrews to bail out over. The rest of Georgia is within their sights because, along with the 295th Motor Rifle Division, the Fourth Army is going to keep on going until Georgia is overrun. American air attacks aren’t going to be able to stop them, not at the current rate they are coming.
Shevardnadze and his government have evacuated themselves to Gori. This small town is some distance away from Tbilisi and also somewhere that has yet to receive any significant Union attention via Scud missile strikes. The ‘happy time’ of a few days ago when Georgia was striking outwards against all enemies is long behind them. South Ossetia was taken back into Georgian hands and the Abkhaz rebels were blasted from the air. The settling of old scores was almost done and dusted before the Union attack out of Azerbaijan suddenly came. Shevardnadze deluded himself into thinking that Gromov would have too much on his plate to bother with Georgia and if there was any response it would be a weak one to try (and fail) to overcome Georgia forces in the Caucasus mountain passes. The strike from Azerbaijan was unexpected in Tbilisi. Even at this stage, with his capital falling and an evacuation being made, Georgia’s leader is still of the belief that things can be turned around though and Georgia can win that victory which he sought by joining the Coalition and turning on Moscow. That final victory will come about because he is certain that the Americans will intervene. They have aircraft in the sky over Georgia and surely their troops will come to his aid.
The head of that military liaison mission, a US Army major-general in country and not enjoying himself one bit, has told Shevardnadze and his own generals that any Georgian rescue mission is something that will be very difficult. He wanted to say ‘impossible’ though chose his words wisely. There is no one on-hand ready to send and prepared to fight here. The American officer previously told the now-deceased Georgian military head that there needed to be more defences on the eastern border with Azerbaijan and rubbished Georgian so-called intelligence that the Fourth Army was going north out of the Caucasus. It would be nice to tell that man ‘I told you so’ but he is dead. His replacement, another political toadie without a clue, doesn’t have it in him to step up and tell Shevardnadze the truth about American difficulties in sending troops to Georgia to save the day for them. Yesterday, Secretary of State Blanchard told Shevardnadze that directly. Still… the Georgians are waiting on American forces to come and rescue their country. Shevardnadze knows that Washington doesn’t want to see Georgia fall. It will give Gromov’s regime a major boost diplomatically and there also might be other effects elsewhere with the war where Union morale might improve. Shevardnadze is certain that the Coalition wants to keep the pressure up on Gromov from all sides and that won’t be the case if the Fourth Army knocks Georgia out of the war.
This isn’t something that Georgia’s leader has read wrong. The Coalition, America especially, doesn’t want to lose Georgia. Though Primakov and his Novosibirsk regime was instrumental in bringing Shevardnadze into the war, once Shevardnadze committed himself in the lead up to Operation Flaming Phoenix starting, the projected role for Georgia became important in the overall war plan. Georgia’s loss would really hurt the Coalition cause. While Blanchard has told Shevardnadze that no troops are immediately available, echoing what is said on the ground by the head of the military liaison team, there are efforts underway to find forces which can come to aid of the Georgians. First though, Secretary of Defence Nunn and the Pentagon have to find a way to first free up forces to support the Georgians and then get them to Georgia too. These are no easy tasks. Georgia is covered by the command of McCaffrey’s European Command despite it being on the edges of Asia. CENTCOM has troops in Saudi Arabia, Kuwait and the Gulf Arab Monarchies that aren’t needed because Saddam is doing nothing – admittedly that might change but it doesn’t look that way – yet any transfer from up out of the Middle East looks is near impossible due to geography and hostile regimes. McCaffrey will have to send troops. Nunn is currently working on how to transfer from out of Europe some of those many uncommitted reserves from the Army National Guard that have made a trans-Atlantic deployment to Poland now down to Georgia. They will have to fly there and that means a light force… sent to get in the way of Union tanks. Rescuing Georgia is not going to be easy.
Shevardnadze himself speaks to Robb today. He begs for help. He says that his country is soon to fall if the Fourth Army cannot be stopped. When the American President tells him that there is a plan afoot to send some help to Georgia, Shevardnadze jumps on that. He wants to know when they arrive and where they will fight. Robb cannot and will not go into detail because both Blanchard and Nunn have yet to formulate a workable scenario to make that happen. However, Shevardnadze keeps pushing. He will continue to do so, bypassing Blanchard’s State Department now that he has the president’s ear on this. Send me help, he keeps on demanding, and rescue Georgia!
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Post by stevep on May 2, 2020 9:58:33 GMT
Will the collation be in charge of removing Ukraine nuclear weapons it might have. The Coalition are going to be taking away any Union weapons they can get their hands on. The Ukrainian rebels will surely by now have some of their own too.
Found the bit I was thinking of with regards to the north, in a reply to me on page 13, responding to comments I made about Chapter 44.
With the Kola, yep, that's probably done with. There might be a push to go down to the Kirovsk / Afrikanda area where there are many airbases (all abandoned by the Union) but a full-on advance on Leningrad from behind is out of the question. There is the matter of the Union military presence in Novaya Zemlya though plus known submarines hiding in the Kara Sea: we'll go there in the update after the one below. I thought this meant that there would be no more action in the far north other than to occupy the highlighted area, which since you said the airbases had been abandon by the Union I assumed was north of the line you mentioned the Union defending. Kirovsk wasn't listed via the general wiki page for that name but I found Kirovsk,_Murmansk_Oblast, which seems to be some way north of those defences according to the linked map, but could be reading things wrong? [If you look at the map to the RHS and click on the option for the local map]. There is an entry for Afrikanda its about on the northern edge of the Kandalakshsky District so going that far would be getting close to if not into the Union defensive position.
Anyway that's why I was thinking the allies wouldn't be running into the Union defences but they would be getting close to them to occupy Afrikanda.
Steve
Ah, now I see it. I only looked in my Word doc rather than the comments. So we have a mission creep on my part. They are going to take them airbases to make use of them - elsewhere, many aircraft are now flying from captured bases too - and fight to take at least Kandalaksha. That's my thinking on that: keep pressing on. Leningrad is still too far, so is somewhere like Petrozavodsk, but K seems achievable.
OK thanks for clarifying. I suspect some degree of mission creep would be all too likely. You have forces who have largely completed their missions so unless strict control or most are sent elsewhere someone will probably think 'what can we do with those troops', either politicians at home or an ambition commander in the area. That's basically how we ended up with the Kut disaster in WWI after all as the 1st aim, to secure the Persian Gulf and the oil supplies was quickly achieved but someone decided taking Baghdad would be a good idea.
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Post by stevep on May 2, 2020 10:17:34 GMT
Well the Georgians have really f**ked up big time but as you say Shevardnadze realises that the allies don't want to see it fall, given that it would give Gromov even the smallest victory. Also possibly they were thinking of later attacks toward Baku to deny him the oil there? However its going to be a scramble to get anything to the region, let alone any ground forces that can stand up to hard military units, especially once boosted by victories.
One option might be direct support via a NATO ally, i.e. Turkey. They have a large military and are right next door and could probably land some units on the coast fairly quickly. Can't remember what the situation is with Turkey in this scenario? Can't remember their forces being used so their not an 'active' part of the alliance but could they be persuaded and if so at what cost?
Of course if the allies does stop Gromov getting a victory then when the truth comes out what does Robb do? If he admits the truth then not only would it be embarrassing but he would need to come to terms with Gromov, which would involve at least withdrawing from the Russian parts of the Union and some aid against the real assassins and Georgia might be considered a suitable sacrifice to throw under the Gromov bus for this?
The other alternative, which might seem politically attractive would be to try and hide the truth and continue as things are. However that would mean deliberately aiding Primakov, the murderer of a US President in winning a civil war. I don't think Robb's character would support such a stance and also it would require being able to keep the truth totally secret, which seems extremely unlikely and the blow up when it came out would be even bigger than having to admit he was tricked.
Steve
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Post by James G on May 2, 2020 18:54:56 GMT
The Coalition are going to be taking away any Union weapons they can get their hands on. The Ukrainian rebels will surely by now have some of their own too. Ah, now I see it. I only looked in my Word doc rather than the comments. So we have a mission creep on my part. They are going to take them airbases to make use of them - elsewhere, many aircraft are now flying from captured bases too - and fight to take at least Kandalaksha. That's my thinking on that: keep pressing on. Leningrad is still too far, so is somewhere like Petrozavodsk, but K seems achievable.
OK thanks for clarifying. I suspect some degree of mission creep would be all too likely. You have forces who have largely completed their missions so unless strict control or most are sent elsewhere someone will probably think 'what can we do with those troops', either politicians at home or an ambition commander in the area. That's basically how we ended up with the Kut disaster in WWI after all as the 1st aim, to secure the Persian Gulf and the oil supplies was quickly achieved but someone decided taking Baghdad would be a good idea.
Steve
Yep, that's the general situation. I've sent them into the Kola and the Crimea, thinking about how those could be done, without an end goal in mind when I started. So I've moved them onwards. Just don't ever put me in charge of any real invasions!
Well the Georgians have really f**ked up big time but as you say Shevardnadze realises that the allies don't want to see it fall, given that it would give Gromov even the smallest victory. Also possibly they were thinking of later attacks toward Baku to deny him the oil there? However its going to be a scramble to get anything to the region, let alone any ground forces that can stand up to hard military units, especially once boosted by victories.
One option might be direct support via a NATO ally, i.e. Turkey. They have a large military and are right next door and could probably land some units on the coast fairly quickly. Can't remember what the situation is with Turkey in this scenario? Can't remember their forces being used so their not an 'active' part of the alliance but could they be persuaded and if so at what cost?
Of course if the allies does stop Gromov getting a victory then when the truth comes out what does Robb do? If he admits the truth then not only would it be embarrassing but he would need to come to terms with Gromov, which would involve at least withdrawing from the Russian parts of the Union and some aid against the real assassins and Georgia might be considered a suitable sacrifice to throw under the Gromov bus for this?
The other alternative, which might seem politically attractive would be to try and hide the truth and continue as things are. However that would mean deliberately aiding Primakov, the murderer of a US President in winning a civil war. I don't think Robb's character would support such a stance and also it would require being able to keep the truth totally secret, which seems extremely unlikely and the blow up when it came out would be even bigger than having to admit he was tricked.
Steve
They won't stand aside and let Georgia fall. It was all meant to be a sideshow but the situation has got out of hand. Baku wasn't in my thinking but it surely would have likely been an idea. Let us say that the military liaison team in Tbilisi were looking at how to make that work. Turkey is neutral. They are neutral in their own fashion too. They will allow aircraft overflights but only for aircraft not making attack missions... which didn't could with B-52s when the war started as they were firing ALCMs. Anyway, so sending Turkish forces is out of the question - I'd imagine Armenia would do something at that point - there is a route into Georgia for American forces via Turkey as long as they are in transit. The hard part isn't even sending the troops and equipment through Turkey, but that is the first issue, but then finding them the right place to fight. It's not going to be easy. I am still considering what to do about the 'big secret'. It makes this story two stories: 1, the war and 2, the truth of it all. I cannot see a situation where the Coalition, the US will either walk away from fighting Gromov or do nothing about Primakov. It all still needs much thought. No secret like that, once uncovered, could be kept... it would come out.
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