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Post by lordvesporeon on Aug 1, 2019 3:11:51 GMT
The Sun Rises Yet Again Chapter 8: The Crumbling Colossus
January 22, 1925Some time has passed since Britain secured several allies in the Mediterranean to combat France and, when the time came, Germany. Germany once again demanded that Britain and Italy renounce this alliance as well as their one with Portugal or face their wrath and once again the people of Germany, tired of war, agitated against this. Protests against German action in Italy were especially high as memories of the short but bloody fighting that took place in the Alps were still fresh and the people had no desire to return to that state of affairs again. Thus, Germany was forced to not take any meaningful action as the people, although happy with their victory in the Great War, are still angry at the Kaiser and the military high-command for the food shortages that occurred in 1918 due to the British blockade as well as other things in recent years. Mosley has been taking it slow in the recent weeks, passing new legislation through Parliament and modernising the army and developing its tactics. The plebiscite in Gibraltar was held and the people voted in favor of British rule. Franco reluctantly handed control over to Britain and in return, British generals, officers, aircraft, volunteers, and resources, both military and civilian, began flooding into Spain. The aid Britain was supplying to Spain had been kept secret and Mosley had successfully convinced Italy and Portugal to send their own volunteers. After this Mussolini said, "There has never been a more doomed cause then the Republican's one." He had also successfully recruited Thomas Lawrence to SIS and Sinclair reported he was gifted when it came to being an insurgent. Fuller had also recently finished setting up his RTD division and had also reached out to several other experts on modern armored and manoeuvre warfare such as Basil Liddell Hart and George Lindsay as well as some more conventional theorists into a separate department designed to develop new military theories on tactical, strategic and operational levels for the entire army. He had also been in limited contact with several military personnel in Germany who felt frustrated at the complete abhorrence to change in the army. Of course, these contacts would not yield much in terms of usable data but some clues as to where to go next might be found. His weekly audiences with the King are as miserable as ever however and this week's one is scheduled for today as yesterday was especially hectic. Mosley internally groans and heads to Buckingham Palace, stopping to examine the picture of Queen Victoria he keeps in his office, the namesake of his party and ideology. He feels a sense of somberness and looks down in respect and then leaves his office. He reaches Buckingham Palace and heads up to where they usually meet and waits until he is allowed in. Once he enters, he bows his head to the King and watches him sit down. Oswald Mosley
"Hello Your Majesty." King George V
"Hello Prime..." He struggled to bring the words to the fore. King George V"...Minister." Mosley looked with silent neutrality before breaking the awkward silence. Oswald Mosley
"Well, I am glad to announce that Gibraltar is back under British governance." King George V
"Truly? Well that is most pleasing news." Oswald Mosley
"This of course came at a price, the General Staff have begun sending equipment and trainers to the Nationalist cause. I believe that this cost is negligible as it is in our interests to curry favour with the winner of this civil war, which I have full confidence they will, as it will give us an ally in Spain." The King remains silent, staring past Mosley. Oswald Mosley
"Your Majesty, are you alright?" He doesn't respond, still staring past Mosley. Mosley looks at what the King is staring at, it is a picture of Queen Victoria, similar to the one Mosley has in his office. King George V
"Today, 23 years ago, dear Grandmamma died. I wonder what she would have thought of a Victorian Government." Mosley looks at him, genuinely surprised at his statement. Every part of him wants to tell him how she would be proud, but he knows he shouldn't. He remains quiet and the rest of the 20 minutes pass by in pained silence. Mosley bids his farewell to the King and then ponders on this, finding his thoughts incoherent. With most major matters at home secured, Mosley decides that it was time to go visit the New World. He packed up just like last time with, Kitson, Joyce, and David joining him. Once ready, they head west. The trip to Canada would take about 4 to 5 days. In the meantime, the three work together on a trade deal with Canadians and possibly a state visit to America. America is in disarray, the current president, Calvin Coolidge, is trying to fix the situation America is in, to little effect. The fall of both Russia and France to communism had galvanised both pro and anti communist ideologies in America, with the pro-communists seeing this as a sign that they could overthrow the oppressive bourgeoisie while the anti-communists saw it as a threat to America and her way of life. Both sides had grown frustrated with the centrists and drifted to their opposite ends. Communist support had grown in the North Eastern Seaboard and the West Coast. Meanwhile the Great Plains and the Deep South grew to favor a strange mix of feudalism and constitutionalism, which advocated for decentralisation and for domestic power to be taken from Congress, the Supreme Court and the White House and to bring it down to local mayors, judges and governors, making each state act like an independent nation within a union, pooling their resources which would materialise in the form of the federal government which they believed was to only be used for national defense, international diplomacy, mediating between states and protecting Americans abroad. They also held other reactionary views such as reviving slavery and despised communists as well as modern liberals and conservatives and demanded the destruction of several federal bureaus and organisations such as the Federal Reserve and the Bureau of Investigation. They refer to themselves as Minimalists. Several clashes have taken place in big cities around the country and although a slim majority of Americans still favored the status quo, the number who did not grew rapidly and soon the man in the White House would not have a D or R next to his name. Eventually, they reach Canada and are met by Mackenzie King and several other officials. The air is tense as media personnel stand waiting to see how they would first greet each other. To their surprise, Mosley extends his hand out to King and they shake in a most courteous manner. All fears of British aggression against Canada have been dispelled. They drive to Ottawa and begin their negotiations for a trade deal. The British negotiate from a position of strength as their economy is better than the Canadian's. It isn't at pre-Depression levels, but it is strong enough to get a favorable trade deal. In order to convince the Canadians, Britain promises to use the Royal Navy to defend the North Atlantic however they stipulated that if they traded with France, Britain will refuse to let those ships dock in their ports, while as for Germany they put pressure to maintain current levels of trade. Canada, desperate for any new income, agrees as the deal will help both of their economies. With this done Mosley, decides a visit to America could yield good things for Britain and so sent a telegram to the White House, asking if they could visit. The White House responds with a yes. With this, they enter their cars and head south, stopping in New York City to rest. While there, they see massive labor riots by communist partisans, with police beginning to violently crack down on them. The city seems to be teetering on the edge of a full blown rebellion. David also meets a woman named Wallis Spencer, an American socialite. David and her hit it off. David has had Freda Ward, a married woman, as his mistress since 1918. Although it wasn't official it is known to almost everyone with two eyes. However, it seems that David enjoys her company far more. It doesn't help that she is in the process of being divorced from her current husband, Earl Spencer Jr. They rest for several days, leaving as soon as they are ready and arrive in D.C. within hours. In Washington, there are massive protests in the capital over the state of the Sacco and Vanzetti trial. Two Italian-born immigrants who held anarchist views. Anarchists and Minimalists are not the same however they worked together when it was convenient, therefore Minimalists across the country took to protest the sentencing of these 2 men to death, as did many communist groups as they also worked with anarchists and also see it as workers being oppressed by the capitalist government. It is one of the rare issues that they agree on, although this does not ease tensions. Their protests, riots and strikes are crippling an already battered America. They meet Coolidge in the White House and eat. Mosley and Joyce speak to Coolidge about American support, even if it was just selling weapon and resources, if another war were to take place in Europe. Coolidge, having been quiet and reserved the whole time, stands up and exclaims that America would not support any European nation at war. This startles all at the meeting and Mosley reassures him that Britain would go her own way, with or without American assistance. This did nothing to relax Coolidge and he asks Mosley and his men to leave immediately, stating that he is a fool to try and do what had ended so disastrously for Britain again. This angers Mosley to the nth degree and he leaves with a choleric temper. They board their ships, head back to Britain, and within 5 days they set foot on the isles once more. Mosley returns to his quarters to dwell on his next move. The trip to America still angered him. Whatever may come, he believed America was on her way out. They call America "The New Colossus", he found it much more fitting to call her a crumbling one. The Statue Of Liberty, Also Known As The New Colossus, 1925 One Of The Many Protests Against Ruling Of The Sacco And Vanzetti Trial, 1923 A Communist Labor Rally, These Strikes Crippled American Industry, 1923 Calvin Coolidge Meeting A Group Of Minimalist Police Officers On Strike, Coolidge Advocated For A Policy Of Compromise, 1924 Bessie Wallis Spencer, 1925
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Post by lordvesporeon on Aug 1, 2019 3:13:47 GMT
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Post by stevep on Aug 1, 2019 9:48:59 GMT
Interesting developments although it sounds rather like things are going too well for Mosely. Also I doubt that a defeated Britain would have the political or economic might to dictate to Canada as in the last chapter. Nor I suspect given that Canada has for unclear reasons previously broken with Britain. Things like demanding they don't trade with German - arguably the most powerful economy in the world at the moment - would be likely to upset both nations and could be seen as a literal casus belli for Germany. Similarly I couldn't see any decent relations with the US until Mosley is willing to make some compensation for the cancelling of war debts.
I'm a bit depressed that Prince David ends up with Wallace again. He didn't seem to be the strongest character but she wasn't the best influence on him OTL. Also I think he is likely, especially in an authoritarian and reactionary political system to be referred to by his title. If they got on very well together Mosley might well call him David in private but in public I think it would almost certainly be Prince David or His Royal Highness. Otherwise your likely to alienate a lot of the royalists in the country. Found it rather odd you referring to him as David in the text and wasn't sure, until you mentioned the meeting with Wallace that it was the prince.
The relations with the king are poor to put it mildly. Thought initially that George V was having some sort of stroke or other problem from him being so inarticulate. However it sounds like things have really broken down between two important parts of the British constitution.
Sounds like Germany is dealing with a lot of internal unrest itself. Very likely after such a long and bloody war with the soldiers who did so much fighting and dying wanting some political returns for their sacrifice, with the presumed need to garrison conquests and with hostile communist states to both east and west.
However definitely some interesting ideas, even if the general trend is towards a bad ending.
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Post by lordvesporeon on Aug 1, 2019 15:06:49 GMT
Interesting developments although it sounds rather like things are going too well for Mosely. Also I doubt that a defeated Britain would have the political or economic might to dictate to Canada as in the last chapter. Nor I suspect given that Canada has for unclear reasons previously broken with Britain. Things like demanding they don't trade with German - arguably the most powerful economy in the world at the moment - would be likely to upset both nations and could be seen as a literal casus belli for Germany. Similarly I couldn't see any decent relations with the US until Mosley is willing to make some compensation for the cancelling of war debts.
I'm a bit depressed that Prince David ends up with Wallace again. He didn't seem to be the strongest character but she wasn't the best influence on him OTL. Also I think he is likely, especially in an authoritarian and reactionary political system to be referred to by his title. If they got on very well together Mosley might well call him David in private but in public I think it would almost certainly be Prince David or His Royal Highness. Otherwise your likely to alienate a lot of the royalists in the country. Found it rather odd you referring to him as David in the text and wasn't sure, until you mentioned the meeting with Wallace that it was the prince.
The relations with the king are poor to put it mildly. Thought initially that George V was having some sort of stroke or other problem from him being so inarticulate. However it sounds like things have really broken down between two important parts of the British constitution.
Sounds like Germany is dealing with a lot of internal unrest itself. Very likely after such a long and bloody war with the soldiers who did so much fighting and dying wanting some political returns for their sacrifice, with the presumed need to garrison conquests and with hostile communist states to both east and west.
However definitely some interesting ideas, even if the general trend is towards a bad ending.
Steve
Canada broke away because literally everyone else was doing so, they were the second to last with only South Africa being afterwards, and they were hoping to protect Canada's economy from the predicted crash of the UK economy as well as prevent the UK from trying to drag Canadian men into another conflict against Ireland or anyone else It was less "We hate you and want nothing to do with you" and more "We feel that you can't protect us, we're sorry about this" That's why Canada never seized Newfoundland as they didn't want to aggress or sour relations (plus Newfoundland and Labrador wanted to stay with the UK). Also keep in mind in the deals to come not everything is public knowledge, but you're right that the phrase "No trade with Germany" was hyperbolic, I should rephrase it to "maintain low levels of trade" America and the UK do not, and will not, have good relations for a very long time if ever I edited that, Mosley will refer to David in public as Crown Prince David. And yes, George has no love or like for Mosley and Mosley as for him, he views him as a walking corpse standing in the way of David getting into power.
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Post by lordvesporeon on Aug 1, 2019 15:19:21 GMT
The Sun Rises Yet Again Chapter 9: Per Bellum, Victoria
February 13, 1925
Mosley has returned to the pace of December. Makgill has successfully cracked down on the anti-Victorian protests, casting the protesters as contesting the will of the people to justify it. Ross reports that he has made some progress into tackling the poverty and hunger in some cities while Barlow's commission has made good progress in the short time he has had. Kitson continuously does his best to bring Britain out of the Depression and there is no shortage of legislation being passed to Mosley for him to present to Parliament and, being as desperate as they were, the majority are expected to pass quickly. Fuller had requested Mosley to come to Isles of Scilly to see the most recent tank models, the Claudius I, perform exercises against entrenched infantry defenses. Mosley packs his bag and brings his family with him for a holiday. They reach the city by nightfall and rest. Mosley awakes early and meets Fuller at the designated point. J. F. C. Fuller
"Hello Your Excellency! Now that you are here we can begin the exercise." Fuller pulls out a pistol and fires it to signal the beginning of the exercise. He proceeds to pull out two pairs of binoculars and hands one to Mosley. The tanks speed off on the roads at a surprising 21 kph. Oswald Mosley
"Impressive Fuller, most impressive." Fuller is visibly pleased at this performance. Soon, the tanks approach the cross-country section of the exercise. Fuller loses his smile and prepares himself for whatever comes next. The tanks, against his expectations, maintain a consistent 7 kph off the roads, one tank breaks down entirely however. Now the tanks, with their infantry support must complete a successful assault against an entrenched enemy position. As the infantry charge towards the position, the remaining tanks split up, 4 tanks will go around each side of the position while the remaining 3 will assist the infantry in the center. As the fighting ensues, Mosley and Fuller continue to watch. The tanks on the flanks move into position and begin their encirclement, with several infantrymen holding onto them, a tactic learned from the famed and feared German sturmtruppen. Meanwhile, the infantry move forward, using the tanks and natural barriers as cover. Soon, both sides have moved into engagement range and the center column is moving fast towards the trench. When the infantry are only a few dozen meters away from the trench, the tanks from behind begin assaulting it, they have completed their flanking manoeuvre. After suffering high losses due to the unpreparedness against such tactics, they surrender. By it's end, 2 tanks had broken down, 1 from malfunction and the other from enemy fire while approaching the trench from the front. The attacking forces had lost 1/5 of their forces while the defending had lost 1/3. The exercise and it's results are clear, the Claudius I, despite all it's flaws, is far superior to the German tanks of the Great War and was capable of completing a successful encirclement. There were still many problems and unforeseen kinks that would need to fixed and prepared for, but the overall performance was promising, especially since this model is largely independent. No flaw bigger than the lack of firepower. There also hadn't been proper testing against powerful anti-tank weapons. Oswald Mosley
"This is extremely impressive Fuller. So much so that I will allocate you more funds to continue development" J. F. C. Fuller
"Thank you your Excellency. We already have plans to develop several categories of tanks." Oswald Mosley
"And what would these be?" J. F. C. Fuller
"The first one will be the light tanks. They will be lightly armored and armed and wont do well against other tanks but that is not their purpose. They will be used to carry out reconnaissance and engage small enemy positions. The next will be the cruiser tanks, they will be heavier and more armed than light tanks and will serve the role of cavalry in the modern age, pursuing enemy forces after defeat and completing encirclements. The third category will be infantry tanks, these will be heavier and even more armed than cruiser tanks but they will be far slower. Their job will be to assist the infantry columns in the main battle and thus are not required to move quickly. The final group are the universal tanks. They will, hopefully, have a perfect combination of armor, armament, and speed so as to be able to fill all the roles a tank needs to. Those are much further down the chain, decades later. Hart has also been working with Rolls-Royce to create better trucks and research into military-grade half-tracks so as to keep the infantry and artillery mobile enough to keep pace. I did not see the value at first but he has convinced me, the infantrymen and the artillery are still the core of any and every successful fighting force." Oswald Mosley
"That is all very good. Your progress astonishes me, keep the pace and Britain will crush her foes underneath an unending tide of armor." J. F. C. Fuller
"Thank you Your Excellency. I assure you, we will progress with great speed." Mosley relaxes on the island and spectates several more exercises before heading back to London. He sends a message to the First Sea Lord, David Richard Beatty, that will inform him that he will get extra funds to build more ships and expand the naval aviation force, with emphasis on operations in the Atlantic and the North Sea rather than the Mediterranean, Italy would handle that. Mosley likes Beatty, he fought in the Mahdist War as well as the Boxer Rebellion, and was responsible for preventing the Battle of Jutland from becoming a defeat, saving precious British ships that would help transport troops out of France in 1918. Mosley was one of the 3 million men on one of those ships and held great gratitude towards him for that. Beatty had also defied expectations and swore he would continue to serve under a Victorian government. These factors mean that Mosley holds great trust and confidence in Beatty and wishes to delegate the authority to handle naval affairs to him. Joyce is preparing Buckingham Palace and several other places for the arrival of the Italian and Portuguese. Makgill prepares local security and MI5 to prevent any plots from developing. Britain's armed forces are on the rise, much to the dismay of Germany and France. Mosley knows that Britain's retribution and victory can only be achieved one way, through war. Rare Photograph From The Battle Of Jutland. This Picture Was Taken As A British Ship Opens Fire On A German Dreadnought Out Of Frame, 1916 John Rushworth Jellicoe, Admiral Of The Fleet, Commanded The Fleet During The Battle Of Jutland. He Was Reported To Have Said On The Eve Of The Battle, "There is something amiss today", Less Than An Hour Later He Was Killed When His Ship Exploded Due To Malfunction, 1910 David Richard Beatty, First Sea Lord, Was Serving As A Vice Admiral During The Battle Of Jutland And Took Command After His Commander, Admiral John Jellicoe, Was Killed By An Internal Malfunction And Prevented A British Defeat, 1915 British Troops Waiting Outside The City Of Bordeaux As There Was Not Enough Room To House Them All, 1918 The Claudius I, Britain's First Independently Designed And Manufactured Tank, 1925
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Post by lordvesporeon on Aug 1, 2019 15:27:07 GMT
The Sun Rises Yet Again Chapter 10: Britons Never Will Be Slaves
February 28, 1925
The day has finally arrived. Today, Mussolini, Salazar, and their entourages would reach London by 11 AM. King George V, Crown Prince David, and Albert along with the women prepare their elaborate dresses and rehearse their respective ceremonial duties to their new visitors. Makgill has made certain that the police and MI5 are on high alert, ready to apprehend any would-be assassins, what happened in Sarajevo 11 years ago serving as an example to all involved to be at their best. Mosley waits with the royals for the ships to arrive and then the massive parades and ceremonies prepared for Mussolini and Salazar could begin. As Big Ben's hand strikes the eleventh hour, ships can be seen in the distance, approaching the harbor and the crowds begin cheering, happy to see that Britain is indeed still an influential nation. As the ships dock and the passengers debark onto the land, media outlets, reporters, radio broadcasters and even a few film crews are making sure all their listeners can experience the event vicariously and future generations can view this occasion. Greetings are exchanged and they enjoy the display of national pride to the international community. After the ceremonies Mosley, Mussolini, Salazar, and their closest advisers head to 10 Downing Street were they can converse in private with only themselves and their interpreters. Once they relax themselves, Mosley begins to speak. Oswald Mosley
"Welcome gentlemen. I hope you have enjoyed what Britain has to offer." Benito Mussolini
"Indeed, although I must say it is quite cold." António de Oliveira Salazar
"I agree, how do you British remain so comfortable with these temperatures?" Oswald Mosley
"My friends, today is a rather nice day. But enough trivialities, the reason we have convened here is to solve a problem. We all have names to call ourselves, in Britain it is Victorianism, in Italy it is Fascism, in Portugal it is Integralism, in Spain it is Falangism, and although we have our differences, we all share similar ideals, values and goals. We need a common moniker for those in all of the world's nations to flock to and to help identify us with ease. I think I have found it, I believe we should call our movement Restitutionism. Rooted in Latin, it is a common link between all our countries and those who would join us in the future." Benito Mussolini
"I like it! It describes what we desire, a restoration of our greatness that was stolen from us. A return to better days." António de Oliveira Salazar
"I agree, it is most befitting. With such a name we will show our intentions to all the world, proudly." Oswald Mosley
"I am most pleased you are in agreement. We must also form a new grand alliance with a standard set of rules for diplomacy with other nations, conduct between ourselves, the rules of warfare, and many other minutia. As for the nature of this alliance, any alliance whose purpose is not to wage war is utterly senseless and useless." Benito Mussolini
"I agree, war is to man what maternity is to a woman; from a philosophical and doctrinal viewpoint, I do not believe in perpetual peace. We must prepare for the inevitable or our end shall be unavoidable. As for the rules, I believe that a nation should only be compelled to war if any member is attacked, if any one suffers foreign aggression all will rise to their defense. If a country wishes to aggress then they must first consult all the others in a meeting where those that wish to join the war can voice their support and those that wish to stay neutral can voice their will to remain so. And of course, we shall have a mandatory annual meeting which all members must attend, with meetings in-between being encouraged both between all or some members, to discuss our spheres of influence and who deserves what and what compensation is due to members who give up parts of their sphere to others." António de Oliveira Salazar
"We must also have a tariff ceiling of 25% on goods from member nations in order to keep trade between us and prevent it going to outsiders, save for extraordinary occasions. We must also establish a common merchant marine to protect our trade ships from foreign plunderers." Oswald Mosley
"Those are all excellent ideas, ones that shall be incorporated into this alliance that will unite us. I have settled on the name, 'The Righteous League. What do you think of it?" António de Oliveira Salazar
"I believe it does a good service to our name. It will easily display to the world that we are on the right side." Benito Mussolini
"And it will serve as source of fear for our foes. Their evil natures will surely recoil and cringe at anything that serves the cause of good and justice." Oswald Mosley
"Then we are in agreement! Excellent! Then we shall work on the official treaty that establishes this alliance." Three hours pass and upon having reached an agreed conclusion, they exit the building and head out back to crowds to do further celebrations. They let information leak to news outlets that a major announcement will occur tomorrow. Hype is abound, as all over the city and beyond, people are speculating what will be announced. The group continues to travel around London and the surrounding area. Mosley and Mussolini make impassioned speeches denouncing several of their enemies, with a major focus on the Commintern but they do not forget to condemn Germany. They also give speeches afterwards about the need to unify the people to make their countries great once more. J. F. C. Fuller, Vereker Gort, Giovanni Messe, and Ugo Cavallero give speeches about the need to combat the French Commune. As the day comes to a close, Crown Prince David moves up to the balcony to give a grand finale for all involved, much to his father's dismay. He is flanked on both sides by the other royals, Dom Manuel II of Portugal and Victor Emmanuel III of Italy. He begins to speak. Crown Prince David
"Hello to all my fellow Britons! Know that I stand with you and with Prime Minister Mosley. If today I stand here as a revolutionary, it is as a revolutionary against the revolution! And what revolution do I stand against you may ask? It is not one revolution, but many! Many foul and misguided revolutions that, either through the support of evil men or the apathy of good ones, have been allowed to ferment in their toxicity and have thus eroded the very bedrock of our societies. The French and Russian revolutions are the greatest of these evils. Afterwards, the Germanic 'Huns' and the communists in France and Russia attempted to deal the final blow against all that is right in the world. But I am here today to tell you they have failed! Every single one of you is proof of that. The brutish and corrupt nature of their leaders have brainwashed the very citizens of these nations. Compelled them to hedonism and vice. It is not their fault, they are a good and honest people at their core, but they are bombarded by filth and lies every moment of their lives, even Christ our savior had been turned away from the light in his darkest moment. While on the cross, after suffering great pain, he said 'My Lord, My Lord, why have you forsaken me?'. They must be freed their oppressors and shown the path back to righteousness. Every citizen in this nation and in our allies' shall take part in this great and glorious mission, nay! This Great Crusade! I have the utmost faith in you all. Rule Britannia!" As his voice travels across the crowds and then ceases, they erupt into a thunderous cheering. They begin to sing, in a voice that surely can be heard all the way in Moscow and Berlin, Rule Britannia. Rule Britannia
When Britain fi-i-irst, at Heaven's command, Aro-o-o-ose from out the a-a-a-zure main, Arose, arose, arose from out the a-azure main, This was the charter, the charter of our land, And Guardian A-A-Angels sang this strain: 'Rule Britannia!' 'Britannia rule the waves!' 'Britons never, never, never will be slaves!' 'Rule Britannia!' 'Britannia rule the waves!' 'Britons never, never, never will be slaves!' The nations, no-o-o-o-ot so blest as we-e-e, Must i-i-i-i-in their turn, to ty-y-yrants fall, Must in their turn, to ty-y-y-yrants fall, While thou shall flourish, shall flourish great and free, The dread and e-e-e-e-nvy of them all. 'Rule Britannia!' 'Britannia rule the waves.' 'Britons never, never, never will be slaves!' 'Rule Britannia!' 'Britannia rule the waves!' 'Britons never, never, never will be slaves!' Still more ma-a-a-a-ajestic thou shall rise, More drea-a-a-adful, from each fo-o-o-oreign stroke; As the lo-o-o-o-oud blast that tears-s-s-s the skies, The people rise forward, Rise forward to the call, To ro-o-o-o-ot thy-y-y-y-y native oak. 'Rule, Britannia!' 'Britannia rule the waves!' 'Britons never, never, never will be slaves!' 'Rule Britannia!' 'Britannia rule the waves!' 'Britons never, never, never will be slaves!' Thee foreign ty-y-y-yrants never shall tame, The gra-a-a-a--andest nation of Grea-a-a-at Britain, The grandest na-a-a-ation of Grea-a-a-at Britain, All attempts to bend us down, But arouse thy righteous flame; And raise our abho-o-o-or and scorn with all. 'Rule, Britannia! Britannia rule the waves!' 'Britons never will be slaves!' 'Rule Britannia!' 'Britannia rule the waves!' 'Britons never, never, never will be slaves!' For a moment there is a silence, a silence of realisation. It stands for almost a minute. Then, David yells with regal might the words, Crown Prince David
"Rule Britannia!" The crowd is invigorated with this and begins to sing once more. 'Rule Britannia!' 'Britannia rule the waves!' 'Britons never, never, never will be slaves!' 'Rule Britannia!' 'Britannia rule the waves!' 'Britons never, never, never will be slaves!' 'Rule Britannia!' 'Britannia rule the waves!' 'Britons never, never, never will be slaves!' As they continue singing, the three royals leave the balcony to their accommodations to rest. Mosley is most pleased. With this demonstration of power and popularity, the remaining opposition to the Victorian Union will melt away. He goes to his home, his children are asleep, he wishes he had more time with them, especially Max, but he feels compelled to do what he does. He spends the night drinking wine with Cynthia and they fall asleep. In the morning, all wake up and head to where they held the speeches and rallies yesterday. Somehow, there are even more people then there were yesterday. They are eagerly and anxiously awaiting the news. Mosley steps up to the balcony, flanked by Salazar and Mussolini, he begins to speak. Oswald Mosley
"My fellow Britons, I am here today to inform you that this moment marks the beginning of a new era. An era of strength and power, of pride and prosperity, of prodigiousness and vision. Today is the creation of a new grand alliance that will bind our three glorious nations together and serve as an invitation to others. Today, the Righteous League is born! Rejoice, as we now discard the obsolete Triple Entente that failed us in the Great War!" The crowd rejoices. This show of defiance to Germany and the Commune pleases the people who had felt defeated and gives vitality to them. They cheer on Mosley, Mussolini and Salazar. Still filled with fervor from last night, they begin to chant the phrase, "Britons never, never, never will be slaves!" The three rulers look onward most pleased. Mussolini turns to Mosley and speaks to him. Benito Mussolini
"We have enshrined our rule through both strength of arms and the will of the people. Those two keys combined open many the doors to many possibilities, as we will all see soon." Oswald Mosley
"Indeed my friend. This is just the beginning." Mosley looks back down at the crowd and yells in a thunderous voice that can be heard even above their own chanting, "Britons Never Will Be Slaves!" A Painting Of Giovanni Messe Giving His Speech Rallying People To Military Action Against The Commune Of France, 1925
Mosley Giving A Speech To The Crowds About The Need To Unite Against The Evils Of The World, 1925 Benito Mussolini Giving A Speech About The Evil Deeds Of The Comintern And Germany, 1925
Crown Prince David Giving His "Saturday Salutation" After His "Rule Britannia" Speech, 1925
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Post by stevep on Aug 1, 2019 21:55:19 GMT
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Well things are accelerating rapidly. Is the Claudius based on the OTL Whippet light tank of 1918. Looks a bit like it although rather slow compared to what the Whippet was capable of. Mind you sounds like its more heavily armoured. Glad that Fuller was persuaded that motorised combined arms are the way to go as OTL too many of his followers supported tank only armies which many have been a factor in the poor doctrine that some of our armoured forces had in WWII.
Not sure about such close trade controls and the combined merchant marines as practical ideas but a lot going on quickly. Mosely is being very public about his plans which could be dangerous. How long will German be divided about the potential threat if things continue like this?
The problem of course with viewing war as a primary aim and the basic reason for any alliance is that if you are successfully ultimately its pointless as the allies will have only each other to fight.
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Post by stevep on Aug 1, 2019 21:58:00 GMT
Interesting developments although it sounds rather like things are going too well for Mosely. Also I doubt that a defeated Britain would have the political or economic might to dictate to Canada as in the last chapter. Nor I suspect given that Canada has for unclear reasons previously broken with Britain. Things like demanding they don't trade with German - arguably the most powerful economy in the world at the moment - would be likely to upset both nations and could be seen as a literal casus belli for Germany. Similarly I couldn't see any decent relations with the US until Mosley is willing to make some compensation for the cancelling of war debts.
I'm a bit depressed that Prince David ends up with Wallace again. He didn't seem to be the strongest character but she wasn't the best influence on him OTL. Also I think he is likely, especially in an authoritarian and reactionary political system to be referred to by his title. If they got on very well together Mosley might well call him David in private but in public I think it would almost certainly be Prince David or His Royal Highness. Otherwise your likely to alienate a lot of the royalists in the country. Found it rather odd you referring to him as David in the text and wasn't sure, until you mentioned the meeting with Wallace that it was the prince.
The relations with the king are poor to put it mildly. Thought initially that George V was having some sort of stroke or other problem from him being so inarticulate. However it sounds like things have really broken down between two important parts of the British constitution.
Sounds like Germany is dealing with a lot of internal unrest itself. Very likely after such a long and bloody war with the soldiers who did so much fighting and dying wanting some political returns for their sacrifice, with the presumed need to garrison conquests and with hostile communist states to both east and west.
However definitely some interesting ideas, even if the general trend is towards a bad ending.
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Canada broke away because literally everyone else was doing so, they were the second to last with only South Africa being afterwards, and they were hoping to protect Canada's economy from the predicted crash of the UK economy as well as prevent the UK from trying to drag Canadian men into another conflict against Ireland or anyone else It was less "We hate you and want nothing to do with you" and more "We feel that you can't protect us, we're sorry about this" That's why Canada never seized Newfoundland as they didn't want to aggress or sour relations (plus Newfoundland and Labrador wanted to stay with the UK). Also keep in mind in the deals to come not everything is public knowledge, but you're right that the phrase "No trade with Germany" was hyperbolic, I should rephrase it to "maintain low levels of trade" America and the UK do not, and will not, have good relations for a very long time if ever I edited that, Mosley will refer to David in public as Crown Prince David. And yes, George has no love or like for Mosley and Mosley as for him, he views him as a walking corpse standing in the way of David getting into power.
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Thanks for that. Ultimately we're going to face problems with the US unless it totally collapses into chaos, which seems unlikely, if for no other reason than that, morals aside Canada is unlikely to be a close ally, either militarily or economically if it causes a lot of tension with the US.
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Post by lordvesporeon on Aug 2, 2019 22:47:47 GMT
The Sun Rises Yet Again Chapter 11: The Isles Stand Stalwart
April 18, 1925
Some time has passed since the infamous London Conference. The members of the Comintern immediately denounced it, saying it was a prime display of capitalist imperialism. Joseph Stalin, primary contestant to Trotsky's rise to leadership of the Soviet Union, stated how he felt to a crowd in Moscow. Joseph Stalin
"My fellow countrymen, today I stand here to speak out against what has transpired in London 18 days ago. The corruption and greed shown by the Western leaders is microcosm of everything wrong with the old model of government. It is this arrogant and blindingly foolish ideology that will seal the fates of these kings and ministers. Know with certainty that when we overthrow and hang the capitalists, it will be with bullets we made and rope they sold us." Stalin, being a man of few words, retreats back to his quarters shortly after. The speech helps appeal to some of his softer opponents and even convinces some to side with him. Germany also condemns the event but is unable to fully speak out against it out of fear of seeming in league with the Comintern. Litvinov is dispatched to Paris to advise the French on what action to take for the foreseeable future, with Grigory Chicherin emphasising aggression towards the British and their newfound alliance instead of towards the Germans due to Molotov's suggestion. Chicherin sends Molotov to Berlin to work with Karl Radek, the Soviet Union's representative in Germany, with plans to ease the Germans to their presence. With this advice from the Soviets, the French stage a naval exercise in the Channel to show off their strength to the British. In response, Beatty sends a petition to Mosley asking permission to stage a naval exercise, much larger than the one the French did, less than 13 knots off the coast of Calais. The letter also includes a request to have Mosley arrange a meeting between himself, Fuller, and Hugh Trenchard, Marshall of the Royal Air Force, in order to work on cementing cooperation of the Royal Air Force, the Royal Navy, and the British Army as one as well as the introduction of an innovative theory on how naval warfare would be waged in the next Great War. Mosley signs off on the naval exercise but is sure to let Beatty know that he must avoid war as Britain is not ready for a full-scale one. He agrees to the meeting between the branches and decides it should include not just the respective heads of each branch but also of many of the general staff of them as well as himself. Beatty, with Mosley's permission, begins to consolidate a fleet big enough to intimidate the French. Beatty would bring the battleships HMS Barham, HMS Hood and HMS Hannibal, the cruisers HMS Achilles, HMS Ambrose, HMS Aphis, HMS Birmingham, HMS Cairo, HMS Calcutta, HMS Calliope, HMS Calypso, HMS Cambrian, HMS Canterbury, HMS Capetown, HMS Caradoc, HMS Cardiff and HMS Carlisle, the destroyer HMS Blenheim, the monitor HMS Erebus and the seaplane carrier HMS Ark Royal as well as 2 dozen or so militarised civilian ships. HMS Hermes was not ready to leave her port as her construction had been delayed due to the Depression. As the fleet converges over the course of the next 2 weeks, Mosley does his best to keep most of the movement secret and the bits that slip through are branded as scheduled movements. These efforts pay off and on the 2nd of May, 3 days before the exercise would go through, the movements of the Royal Navy are mostly unscrutinised by the world. Information relating to the exercise is purposely leaked so as to get the story into international view by the 5th. On the 5th, Beatty's fleet, headed by HMS Hood, steams out towards the coast of Calais. The French had received news of the exercise and are deliberating on how to respond. Litvinov has no idea how the Kremlin wants the French to react and word from Moscow itself will take too long. They have to make a decision on their own. Two major factions arise. On one side are the Internationalists, led by Boris Souvarine, a supporter of Trotsky, who want to fire on the fleet with everything they have available. The idea is that Britain's fleet has shrunken greatly since WWI, mostly due to the Battle of Jutland and a decent number of the remaining fleet being sold off, and that the fleet coming to the Calais coast contains a sizable chunk of the powerful ships in the Royal Navy and that by dealing a decisive blow, they can cripple Britain's ability to fight and that their prime allegiance is to the workers of the world, not just any one nation. On the other side are the Nationalists, led by Maurice Thorez, a supporter of Stalin, who want to leave the fleet be as they believed that Comintern cannot make any meaningful actions against Britain or her allies and that it will only anger people in an unstable society and that their ultimate allegiance is to France, not the world. In the end, both sides are deadlocked and Litvinov must choose a side to break the stalemate as the remaining undecided members would gravitate to him. He decides to side with the Thorez and let the fleet be. However, he urges Thorez to send a squadron of airplanes into the vicinity of the fleet so as to put up some resistance. As the world watches, Beatty's fleet reaches the designated point and begins the exercise. Germany is on high alert as well as it did not want to be defenseless if Europe is to descend into war once again. Kaiser Wilhelm II is forced by the Reichstag and Reichskanzler Maximilian von Baden to support the British. Even though Germany is powerful, there are many factions and internal divisions weakening it. During the war, unrest and protests were rising in Germany due to the British blockade which still continued even after Jutland, although with less success. This combined with a potato crop failure because of poor Autumn weather and a lack of able-bodied men due to intensive drafting, with most heading to the Eastern Front due to the startling success of the Brusilov Offensive. Most of the remaining crop that had not failed, spoiled on the way to the cities. These events culminated into what is now known as the Turnip Winter. It was called this as turnips came to replace potatoes in the diets of most German civilians and soldiers, much to their disdain. Malnutrition rose, rations dropped both at home and at the front and even though the war in France was still in Germany's favor, the recent losses on the Eastern Front to General Aleksei Brusilov's daring offensive, the failure at Tours in 1914 as well as the 400,000 people dead due to starvation all made the people tired of war and demands that the Kaiser make a less substantial but immediate peace began to circulate. Rations for the navy dropped to such lows that a naval mutiny arose as sailors were angry that they were virtually starving while officers were wining and dining heartily. In light of these events, Reichskanzler Bethmann Hollweg convinced Kaiser Wilhelm II to make a speech addressing the nation which was delivered to the Reichstag and then published on April 6, the same day as the USPD was established. The USPD was a social democratic party that was formed by alienated members of the SPD, an older socialist party that had drifted to the center and supported the war despite the Second International's objection. The message, being viewed by most of the population a day before Easter, would come to be known as the Easter Message. The message was written as follows. Kaiser Wilhelm II
"Never before has the German people proved so unshakable as in this war. The realisation that the Fatherland faced a grave emergency exerted a wonderfully conciliatory force, and despite all the sacrifices of blood that we made on foreign fields, and despite all the difficult privations that we bore at home, the will has remained unshakable to risk the utmost for the last, victorious struggle. The national and social spirits were unified in mutual understanding and gave us lasting strength. Everyone felt: what had been built up during long years of peace, amid many internal difficulties, was worth defending. The achievements of the whole nation in war and need shine before my soul. The experiences of this struggle for our national existence are inaugurating a new epoch in magnificent solemnity. As the responsible Chancellor of the German Reich and First Minister of my Prussian Government, you face the obligation to help fulfill the demands of this time with the proper means and at the proper time. On various occasions you have spoken of the spirit in which the forms of our state’s life are to be rebuilt in order to foster the free, enthusiastic cooperation of all members of our nation. The principles that you worked out on these occasions have, as you know, my approval. I am aware that in giving it, I am following the course of my grandfather, the founder of the Reich, who fulfilled his monarchical responsibilities in exemplary fashion, both when, as King of Prussia, he presided over the organisation of the military, and when, as German Kaiser, he oversaw social reform. In so doing, he created the foundations on which the German people will survive this bloody time in unanimous and wrathful perseverance. To preserve the armed forces as a true army of the people, to promote the social improvement of all classes of the people, has been my aim from the beginning of my reign. Determined as I am to serve the commonwealth, in hard-tested unity between the people and the monarchy, I have decided to begin the reconstruction of our domestic political, economic, and social life to the extent that the conditions of war permit. Millions of our fellow countrymen are still on the battlefield. Behind the front, the settlement of differences of opinion, which are unavoidable in connection with a far-reaching alteration of the Constitution, must be postponed in the highest patriotic interest, until our warriors have returned home and can themselves by word and deed aid in the progress of the new age. However, in order to allow the necessary and practical steps in this connection to take place immediately upon the successful end of the war, which I confidently hope is not far off, I wish that the preparations be concluded without delay. I am especially anxious to see the reorganisation of the Prussian parliament and the liberation of all our domestic politics from this problem. On my orders, preparations for altering the suffrage for the Bundestag were made at the beginning of the war. I now charge you to submit to me concrete proposals from the State Ministry, so this work, which is basic to the structure of domestic politics in Prussia, will quickly be carried out by legislation, once our warriors have returned. Given the colossal achievements of the whole people in this terrible war, I am convinced that there is no room any longer for the three-class franchise system in Prussia. Furthermore, the proposed bill is to provide for the direct and secret election of deputies. No King of Prussia will fail to appreciate the merits and enduring significance of the Bundesrat for the state. But the Bundesrat will better be able to meet the colossal demands of the coming age if, to a broader and more equitable extent than before, it unifies in its midst leading men from the diverse sectors and vocations of the people, men who are distinguished by the respect of their fellow citizens. In renewing important dimensions of our firmly established and hard-tested state apparatus, I am acting in the traditions of my great forebears as I demonstrate my confidence in a loyal, brave, disciplined, and highly developed people." The speech made vague promises of reform to the German government, with people speculating it was referencing the constitution, the Reichstag, or even the granting of women's suffrage. Of course, the speech was vague and no date of implementation or even a guarantee to follow through on this reform was given and with the war ending in a German victory, the Kaiser and his government had not begun any attempts of reform. Hollweg's failed attempts of compromise between the left and the right had alienated many on both sides from the current system, which did not help the situation. A precarious centrist government is maintained as neither side wants to give up ground to the other and both lack the power to swing the pendulum to their liking. This has led to serious grid-locking and extreme inefficiency within most, if not all, sectors of government and the people are unwilling to start another war. In general, a sense of contentedness, stagnation, and apathy has settled into the German society and it's people. Most German citizens are happy to listen to their favorite radio stars and indulge in the great German theatre culture while the communist and revanchists powers grow in might until the day they could strike Germany. As Beatty exercise commences, a squadron of planes is spotted approaching the fleet. Beatty orders HMS Hannibal and HMS Barham to fire warning salvos while HMS Ark Royal deploys her own fighters to intimidate the French pilots. The sight of the salvos and the planes scare away the French and Beatty is pleased. The exercise continues uninterrupted and by its end, the whole world knows that the Royal Navy holds naval supremacy over the English Channel. The French have been cowed and the Soviets angered, with the German's having to reluctantly support this move. Beatty returns to port with great applause, as many feared that Britain would back down in the face of this provocation. Mosley congratulates Beatty publicly in a speech in London. Oswald Mosley
"My fellow Britons, the Hero of Jutland has once again displayed Britain's naval might to all the world! The vile communists believed that they could prevent the destiny of these great Isles and their people by flaunting their false strength in our faces. They dare to send their symbols of slavery and godlessness into our beautiful Channel. They expected us to let such a transgression pass, to let such an insult to the British people be. They are wrong! We are a strong and proud race! Intelligent and diligent! Today, we have once again proven that Britannia rules the waves!" The people continue applaud Beatty and Mosley. The two head to Mosley's office afterwards. Once they sit down Mosley begins to speak. Oswald Mosley
"I sincerely thank you Beatty. You defended our naval dominance against the Comintern's actions. Your speedy response put an end to the plans of those filthy upstarts." David Beatty
"It was my pleasure Your Excellency. I'll take any chance I can to stand up to those revolting communists. I am glad we are now alone, I wanted to talk with you in private, before the military assembly with Fuller and Trenchard." Oswald Mosley
"What about?" David Beatty
"It relates to the new theory on naval warfare I have been crafting. It is radically different than the conventional primacy of the battleship. Although there are different strategies using this primacy, such as Fleet in Being, they all revolve around commanding powerful warships, where naval might is measured purely in tonnage displaced, number of guns operating and caliber length. This proves extremely costly, so much so that admirals feel that using these powerful ships could incur a cost so great that anything short of total victory would be pyrrhic in nature. This is problematic, it's nature summarised so perfectly at Jutland. I seek to correct this, to implement a new doctrine." Oswald Mosley
"And what would you propose?" David Beatty
"I propose a doctrine centered around the seaplane carrier and the air support it can provide in battle. The introduction of airplanes will effect every aspect of war, on land and at sea. Seaplanes are much cheaper to build than dreadnoughts or cruisers and if the technology were to be improved, they could end up becoming an equal if not significantly more dangerous threat to ships. They can be fielded in larger numbers if enough carriers were present and are far more maneuverable than a colossal dreadnought or even a more sprightly cruiser. There is more to it than that, the reconnaissance benefits, power projection, land support, and many other components that have convinced me to follow through with this." Oswald Mosley
"What exactly prompted you to seek this new way of naval warfare?" David Beatty
"It was a variety of factors that impelled me to think on this. But the two most important events were Jutland and the Japanese use of sea-based planes at the siege of Tsingtao. Jutland motivated me to find a new way to fight smarter, not harder, and the Japanese tactics at Tsingtao opened the doors in my mind to those new possibilities." Oswald Mosley
"Do you have a name to call this new doctrine?" David Beatty
"I do not have an official name, I intend to arrive at one by the date of the assembly. For now, I have referred to it simply as the "Pelican Strategy". Its name is self-explanatory." Oswald Mosley
"I see. Still, it is a very promising doctrine, and if you believe that this is the route to restoring Britain's naval dominance over the world, then I entrust you with great confidence to take the necessary steps to fulfill this vision. With oversight and suggestions from the government and other branches of course. I will never forget how you saved my life and the lives of my brothers-in-arms in 1918." David Beatty
"Thank you. I must be going now as I am very tired from the intensive work over the last 2 weeks." Oswald Mosley
"Of course, good day to you Sir Beatty." David Beatty
"And good day to you Your Excellency." As Beatty departs, Mosley remains at his desk. He still has much work to do. Chambers and Makgill have recently finished a collaboration on a set of policies that were to be presented to Parliament. These laws would strengthen the powers of the Prime Minister and MI5. Kitson had also sent some more economic policy to present in Parliament. Mosley would have to push these policies through Parliament, he would use the popularity gained from his recent actions to achieve this. Mosley is proud that the British Isles stand stalwart against the world. Joseph Stalin, Primary Contender To Leon Trotsky's Rise To Preeminence In the Soviet Union, 1925 Maurice Thorez, Head Of The Nationalist Party In The French Commune And A Stalinist, 1925 Boris Souvarine, Head Of The Internationalist Party In The French Commune And A Trotskyist, 1923 Maxim Litvinov, Soviet Ambassador To The French Commune, 1921 HMS Hood, An Admiral-Class Battlecruiser And The Pride Of The Royal Navy, The Only Of Her Kind, In The English Channel, 1925
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Post by lordvesporeon on Aug 3, 2019 0:59:54 GMT
The Sun Rises Yet Again Chapter 12: The Art Of War
May 17, 1925
All the general staff of the three major branches of the British military are gathered. J. F. C. Fuller leads the Army, David Beatty is head of the Royal Navy and Hugh Trenchard represents the Royal Air Force. They all have their best men with them today, hoping to put their best foot forward. Fuller brings Liddell Hart, Bernard Montgomery, Edmund "Tiny" Ironside, Alan "Shrapnel" Brooke, Archibald Wavell, John "Tiger Gort" Vereker, Claude "The Auk" Auchinleck and a plethora of officers from the Camberley Staff College. Beatty brings Reginald Henderson, Russel Grenfell, Lumley Lyster, Charles Madden, Herbert Richmond, Andrew "ABC' Cunningham, Reginald Drax and numerous naval officers of the Greenwich Royal Navy College. Trenchard brings Arthur Harris, Hugh Dowding and Charles Portal as well as several other theorists and pilots from the Cranwell Royal Air Force College. All have rehearsed and prepared their speaking points and are ready to deliver them. Mosley joins the men into the conference room. As the men sit down in their respective groups, Mosley is the first to speak, standing in an elevated position, equidistant to all the groups, signifying his superiority and respect to all branches. Oswald Mosley
"Gentlemen, today we are here to discuss the strategies, tactics, operational procedures, technological and doctrinal innovations, potential synergy between the branches and, of course, the direction, focus, and goals of Britain in the coming decades. Let us discuss the issues with vigor and passion but also with the tact and courtesy necessary to keep a proper pace and to prevent senseless bickering. Now, the Army underneath J. F. C. Fuller may take the floor." J. F. C. Fuller
"Thank you your Excellency. As we all know, the Army needs a major overhaul. The outdated tactics of the early years of the war cost us dearly. It wasn't until late 1917 that commanders and generals finally understood some of the tactics needed to fight effectively in that truly modern war, but by that time it was too late. Even Field Marshall Haig, for all his efforts, could not turn the war in our favour, even the victory at Lyon was not enough. With this costly and terrible lesson, I believe the General Staff and I have reached several conclusions that will benefit the army. The first of these is to develop a large and powerful tank corps, emphasising speed, decisive breakthroughs and the encirclement of enemy forces. This will be crucial to our success in our continental endeavors as most of our foes will have numerically superior armies. We will have to take inspiration from Napoleon, especially his victories at Austerlitz, Helmuth von Moltke the Elder, Clausewitz and many other military geniuses. Defeat in Detail, mass mobility, armored breakthroughs, superior firepower and rapid encirclement will be essential to ensuring sustained success without incurring abhorrent butcher's bills like in the Great War or, as I prefer to call it, the Seminal Aberration. We must also expand the NCO corps so as to exercise effective control over the massive armies of the modern age. Individual initiative and deviation from certain aspects of the overall strategic plan to achieve meaningful tactical success must not only be allowed but encouraged. The radio and its coming advancements will help generals and field marshals maintain efficient and tight control and communication with the front-line and to react in real time, even faster than the telephone. However, even if this becomes so widespread as to allow obsessive direction of all forces, this should not be pursued or desired. Men at the front-line, officers and infantry, must be allowed to make their own decisions. We cannot account for everything and an insistence that we can or should will lead to unnecessary bloodshed. A doctrine of autonomy, if you will. We must also seek to improve our understanding of the three C's of warfare, Command, Control, Communication, and Information, or C3I for short, as well as the 9 Principles of War: Direction, Concentration, Distribution, Determination, Surprise, Endurance, Mobility, Offensive Action and Security. These 9 Principles do not stand on their own but instead overlap, forming the Law of Economy of Force. Furthermore, the 9 Principles are joined into 3 groups with 3 principles each, the Principles of Control are 1, 4 and 7, the Principles of Pressure are 2, 5 and 8, and the Principles of Resistance are 3, 6 and 9. Improving our understanding of these concepts will allow us a better view of the battlefield in its entirety." Fuller, Hart, and Montgomery are the primary advocates of these radical views and alterations to warfare, with Ironside being the first of the old guard to embrace it. With these 4 men combining their efforts, they manage to sway the majority of the room to their viewpoint, with the last few naysayers being suppressed when Mosley assures he intends to fully back these ideas. After this, the rest of the army staff go up and express the needs for proper recruitment tactics, improvement of mobilisation speed and efficiency as well as research and development of more advanced technologies to improve the amphibious capabilities of the army. With the army staff having finished with everything they desired to speak about, Mosley once again calls the attention of all involved. Oswald Mosley
"Most impressive and convincing Mister Fuller. With that done, the Royal Air Force under Hugh Trenchard shall now take the floor." Hugh Trenchard
"Thank you Sir Mosley. With the advent of the fighter plane came the introduction to entirely alien dimension of warfare, the skies. No longer is it sufficient to hold land and naval superiority; one must maintain control of the land, the seas and the skies if he is to ensure that his men can operate with impunity. At the moment, military aviation as whole is in its infancy, only just over a decade ago was it ushered into the world. Despite its complications and uncertainties, military aviation holds the potential to completely shift the way war is fought. With the introduction of stronger engines, we will soon see the debut of heavier-than-air aircraft into practical military use. With these larger and more powerful planes, we can begin to develop even heavier payloads for our bombers. This opens up gateways to a new way to weaken an enemies' war effort and morale of their citizenry without even moving our ground troops. It is something Arthur Harris, Charles Portal, the rest of my colleagues, and I have spent many hours if not days theorising about. We were having difficulties reaching a name until it dawned on me, the perfect moniker for this idea of aerial warfare, Strategic Bombing. Harris, however, felt it was far to modest and kind for our enemies and instead favoured Strategic Destruction and we as whole agree. This idea would mean the development of advanced bomber craft capable of carrying extremely heavy and frighteningly destructive payloads and travelling the long distances required to strike the industrial heartland of the enemy. It would also mean developing fighters capable of escorting the bombers to their target and back to base. With this, we will strike fear into the hearts of our enemies'. They will wonder will dreadful uncertainty whether or not the towns and cities of their people are safe from our righteous fury." This proposal immediately resonates with most if not all in the room. Both on a practical and symbolic level, it is very appealing. Fuller eagerly stands up to speak. J. F. C Fuller
"Trenchard, I believe I speak on behalf of all in this room that your proposal is a most sound one. The vile communists and dastardly Huns will be drowned in a sea of hellfire and brimstone delivered from the British Isles!" The room erupts into cheering. Only Mosley's commanding presence and voice manages to calm them down, back to the stoic and professional composure that they began with. Fuller begins to speak again J. F. C. Fuller"But we must also not forget another role the air force must fulfill, that being the assistance of ground forces on a tactical level. These very same bombing capabilities can be scaled down from destroying cities to destroying fortifications, troops, bases and any other objects or persons that seek to oppose our forces." Hugh Dowding stands up and begins to speak. Hugh Dowding
"I concur. As much as I agree with the merits of strategic destruction, I also believe we must not forget the most crucially important role the air force played in the Great War, assistance of ground troops. From carrying out reconnaissance runs to detailing where the next artillery bombardment should be directed towards, to dropping bombs onto enemy troops, the airplane proved it is capable of working in synchronous harmony to achieve fantastically destructive results. Development of more agile planes with a shorter range and smaller payloads, designed not lay waste to an unsuspecting town but instead to a hapless enemy battalion, will help us achieve great success. This doctrine of air support in close proximity to ground forces is extremely important. I believe we can refer to it as Close Air Support?" The room sounds in agreement. Hugh Dowding"The challenge is in balancing these two approaches to ensure neither is ignored. This should not prove to be too difficult as both rely on the use of bombing ground targets to achieve goals. One is strategic, the other is tactical." Hugh Trenchard"I agree wholeheartedly! We must also reinforce the idea that the RAF is an independent organisation, deserving as much respect and freedom as the Army and Navy. One of the first steps toward this end is to abolish the Royal Navy Air Service and transfer it's resources, personnel and duties to a new group, the Fleet Air Arm, which will be underneath the RAF's control instead of the Royal Navy." This idea is well received. With Trenchard and the Air Force finished, Mosley uses the brief silence to keep the momentum going. Oswald Mosley"Such ideas are most exciting to hear Trenchard and I have the utmost confidence that the RAF will successfully develop and implement them into the next war. Now, David Beatty and the Royal Navy may speak." David Beatty"Thank you Prime Minister. It is with great shame I mention the defeat at Jutland. That singular event perfectly encapsulates everything wrong with our naval doctrine. We need a new naval doctrine, even if the one we used was the right choice during the war, we can no longer hope to compete with Germany in the field of battleships. Even if we were to begin a massive fleet construction program, Germany will still have a bigger populace and economy and a several years head start. This problem is the Gordian Knot of the British Navy in the modern world. And like said knot, it can not be solved by simply building more titanic ships or pulling the knot harder. It can only be solved by looking at the problem from a new position, finding a previously unthought of solution. For Alexander, it was cutting the knot in half with his sword, for Britain, it is forging a bold, new way to wage war on the high seas. I believe sir Lyster, sir Henderson, sir Grenfell and I have talked and laboured extensively on this. To understand the merits of this doctrine I am to expound requires the ability to set aside one's biases to see what is best. This new doctrine shifts the focus of our navy from the vaunted dreadnoughts and battleships, from the idea that naval power is exclusively determined in number of guns, caliber length and tonnage displaced, of constructing and maintaining the biggest and largest ships, towards a less ostentatious but certainly more efficient fleet composition. Britain's navy, if she wishes to be successful in the coming conflicts, must place ultimate primacy on her carriers rather than her dreadnoughts. Aviation will fundamentally change how war is fought on the seas, as it has and will on every other front. With aviation advancing faster and faster, we will be able to build planes able to take off and land on carrier decks without ever touching the sea. We can make these planes faster, stronger, more agile and we can arm them with stronger, faster and more accurate torpedoes. Soon, the greatest danger to the enemies ships will no longer be the tremendous thundering of a dreadnought's salvo but of the hum of an airplane propeller and it's torpedo crashing into the sea. The HMS Hermes, still under construction, will serve as the basis for all future carriers. In addition, we must also take into account the power of the submarine. The ability of submersible craft to wreak havoc on the shipping tonnage of a nation must not be underestimated. We are all extremely lucky that Germany feared the intervention of the U.S. into the war and were unable to fully carry out their plan to starve Britain as they could not sink American ships too close to the Home Isles. Submarines must be developed, this will be easier than thought as the submarine's prime weapon, the torpedo, will also be in use by the naval air force and thus advancements in one field can benefit the other. The submarine can also remain hidden from the enemy and can infiltrate deep into enemy seas if need be. Submarines can also, if a situation demanded it, deal heavy or fatal damage to a larger ship, even a dreadnought. This shows we must also be vigilant for any advances in submarine technology by our enemies, especially from the Germans. To do so, we must develop our existing depth charges to be even more effective and accurate, able to penetrate the watery depths that enemy submarines will lurk at. The dreadnoughts, battleships and other ships will fulfill a purpose, that of serving as escorts and screens for the carriers. This doctrine of cooperation between carriers for winning naval engagements, submarines to strangle commerce and imports to a nation and destroyers to counteract enemy submarines shall be referred to as the Floating Fortress Doctrine. Unlike the dreadnought, which the term is incorrectly applied to, this doctrine forms a true fortress, with every ship and plane serving a purpose in the fleet just as every soldier and building serves one in a fortress and it's accompanying areas." Soon after, Henderson, Lyster and Grenfell elaborate more on the "Floating Fortress" doctrine. Explaining how battleships are expensive to construct and that Germany will not stand for it. How pursuing this naval arms race of battleships with Germany would bankrupt Britain and plunge them into another depression, one potentially worse then the one currently experienced. They also explain how battleships and large cruisers are obvious targets for the enemy, more so than a carrier due to their established mythos while the carrier has none. They expand on the reasons why naval aircraft would become more deadly than anything before it and the need to advance anti-air defenses for both land and naval forces. The old guard are less enthusiastic towards this line of thinking than the army was to Fuller's. However, Mosley's approval and commendation of Beatty and his colleagues sway them over and soon they come to understand the merits of what they are saying. Trenchard fully supports this strategy. In the previous years he has had to vehemently defend the air force from budget cuts and being absorbed into other branches, which would destroy its independence as well as having to work vigorously to establish and entrench an esprit de corps for the Air Force. He views increasing the importance of aviation of the Air Force in field of naval combat would further help the Air Force command the respect and attention the other branches maintained. With everyone having said their piece, Mosley announces that conference is over and that all in the room could return to their work except for Fuller, Beatty and Trenchard. Oswald Mosley
"Gentlemen, I commend you for the excellent job you did today. Due to your efforts, Britain is another step closer to regaining what is her's. I also wish to inform I have been in contact with several scientists. Men such as John Ambrose Fleming, Oliver Joseph Lodge, Lewis Fry Richardson, Albert Beaumont Wood, Robert Watson Watt, and Édouard Branly as well as the Royal Society. They have all been working om several different versions and pieces of technology, the use of radio waves to detect enemy planes as well as improve current radio transmitters to allow more efficient communication and the use of sonic vibrations to detect enemy submarines. I have asked if they could combine their efforts to develop advanced radio and sonic detection systems. They all agreed and I am setting up the buildings and gathering the resources they require as we speak. Soon, you will have advanced submarine detection capabilities and communication from the front to high command will become much faster and early plane detection systems will help us fend off any potential bombing campaigns. I believe the combination of all the ideas of war into a two phrases. Cyclonic Conflict for the strategy and Whirlwind Warfare for the tactics. You are now dismissed." The men are pleased by this news and return to their jobs. About 2 or so hours have passed since they first met and Mosley has other things to do. He has been working continuously with Chambers and Kitson to improve the economic situation as well as to increase the power of the Prime Minister. With the economy recovering, his successful attempts at demonstrating the power Britain still possessed, and the world famous London Conference have all led to even faster rising level of nationalism and loyalty to the country and to Mosley himself. Many view Mosley as the bringer of a new Golden Age for Britain and its people. He is extremely popular with the military as he has always advocated against reducing the military and shrinking the Defense Budget. Within a year's time, Mosley could call a snap election to increase the Victorian Union's numbers in the House of Commons dramatically . Mosley is determined to shatter the democratic elements of British society. In time, the people would learn to view him and the King as the ultimate authority on all matters. As he enters his office, he notices something on his desk, something that had not been there before. He approaches it and realises it is a book with a message on top. Mosley reads it. "My dear friend Mosley, I sincerely hope you enjoy this book. It is a most fascinating look at the destitute state of Paris and, by extension, the Commune as a whole. Hopefully, this book can serve as an apology for my neglect of your birthday. The book is written by an English man going by the name P.S Burton. However this seems to simply be a pseudonym and not his actual name as I could not find any P.S Burton. I will write to you if I discover this author. I hope all is well with Cynthia as well as Vivien and Nicholas. Sincerely, Henry" He looks at the book. The title reads "Down and Out in Paris". It appears to be intriguing and so he begins to read it. As he flips through the pages, he engrosses himself in the personal accounts of P.S Burton within France. The high crime rate, widespread destitution, poverty and famine, the inept Communard police forces, and the general volatile state of the city. He lays the book down, knowing he cannot finish the approximately 130 pages in a single sitting, not with his job. He swears to finish it as quickly as he can and once done, to find out who this P.S Burton really is. Mosley could find use for a man of such talents. Basil Henry Liddell Hart, One Of The Premier Theorists Underneath Mosley, As Seen In The Great War, 1916 Bernard Law Montgomery, One Of Britain's Most Skilled Commanders. He Is However Quite Combative With Superiors And Contemporaries And Is Overly Eager To Prove Himself After Some Humiliating Defeats To The Irish In The Autumn Uprising, 1925 Claude John Eyre Auchinleck, A Masterful British Commanding Officer Who Displayed His Talents In The Mesopotamian Campaign Against The Ottomans. Despite Limited Forces Due To Problems In France, He Achieved Routine Success Against Larger Ottoman Forces And Almost Seized Baghdad But Was Ultimately Defeated When The Massive German Counter Attack Began In 1918 After France Surrendered, 1923 Sir Arthur Travers Harris, A High Ranking Staff Member In The Cranwell Royal Air Force College And Essential Co-Creator Of Strategic Bombing, Gaining Inspiration From Herman Göring's Use Of Heavy Bombings To Suppress Native Revolts In Mittleafrika, Much To The Dismay Of Statthalter Paul von Lettow-Vorbeck, 1915 Arthur Lumley St. George Lyster, Captain Of The HMS Danae And A Member Of The Greenwich Royal Naval College As Well As A Vocal Advocate For Carrier Primacy In The Royal Navy, 1921
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The Sun Rises Yet Again Chapter 11: The Isles Stand Stalwart
..... Litvinov is dispatched to Paris to advise the French on what action to take for the foreseeable future, with Grigory Chicherin emphasising aggression towards the British and their newfound alliance instead of towards the Germans due to Molotov's suggestion. Chicherin sends Molotov to Berlin to work with Karl Radek, the Soviet Union's representative in Germany, with plans to ease the Germans to their presence. With this advice from the Soviets, the French stage a naval exercise in the Channel to show off their strength to the British. In response, Beatty sends a petition to Mosley asking permission to stage a naval exercise, much larger than the one the French did, less than 13 knots off the coast of Calais. The letter also includes a request to have Mosley arrange a meeting between himself, Fuller, and Hugh Trenchard, Marshall of the Royal Air Force, in order to work on cementing cooperation of the Royal Air Force, the Royal Navy, and the British Army as one as well as the introduction of an innovative theory on how naval warfare would be waged in the next Great War. Mosley signs off on the naval exercise but is sure to let Beatty know that he must avoid war as Britain is not ready for a full-scale one. He agrees to the meeting between the branches and decides it should include not just the respective heads of each branch but also of many of the general staff of them as well as himself. Beatty, with Mosley's permission, begins to consolidate a fleet big enough to intimidate the French. Beatty would bring the battleships HMS Barham, HMS Hood and HMS Hannibal, the cruisers HMS Achilles, HMS Ambrose, HMS Aphis, HMS Birmingham, HMS Cairo, HMS Calcutta, HMS Calliope, HMS Calypso, HMS Cambrian, HMS Canterbury, HMS Capetown, HMS Caradoc, HMS Cardiff and HMS Carlisle, the destroyer HMS Blenheim, the monitor HMS Erebus and the seaplane carrier HMS Ark Royal as well as 2 dozen or so militarised civilian ships. HMS Hermes was not ready to leave her port as her construction had been delayed due to the Depression. As the fleet converges over the course of the next 2 weeks, Mosley does his best to keep most of the movement secret and the bits that slip through are branded as scheduled movements. These efforts pay off and on the 2nd of May, 3 days before the exercise would go through, the movements of the Royal Navy are mostly unscrutinised by the world. Information relating to the exercise is purposely leaked so as to get the story into international view by the 5th. On the 5th, Beatty's fleet, headed by HMS Hood, steams out towards the coast of Calais. David Beatty
"I propose a doctrine centered around the seaplane carrier and the air support it can provide in battle. The introduction of airplanes will effect every aspect of war, on land and at sea. Seaplanes are much cheaper to build than dreadnoughts or cruisers and if the technology were to be improved, they could end up becoming an equal if not significantly more dangerous threat to ships. They can be fielded in larger numbers if enough carriers were present and are far more maneuverable than a colossal dreadnought or even a more sprightly cruiser. There is more to it than that, the reconnaissance benefits, power projection, land support, and many other components that have convinced me to follow through with this."
One or two questions and comments on this post. a) Technically a knot is a unit of speed rather than distance, i.e. 13 nautical miles an hour. Also even if you mean the slightly smaller standard mile then 13 miles from Calais if towards England the exercise is at least as close to England/Britain as to France.
b) If the RAF has still been formed and Trenchard is in command you will have great problems getting it to really co-operate with the other services. Its entire purpose for existence as an independent service was that it was separate to the other two and would provide a 'cheaper' alternative to conventional warfare by area bombing of the enemy cities and industrial base. He will not want any co-operation with the other services as he will see it as a threat to the RAF's existence. Arguably its formation was a big blow for the navy especially as it greatly distracted from the development of carrier a/c for the latter. Hence expect some conflict with Beatty's new ideas.
c) HMS Hannibal - is that the old 1896 pre-dreadnaught or a ship that was not built or named as such OTL? If the former then the RN is in a bad way if ships that ancient and obsolete are still in service.
d) By seaplane does Beatty mean what was called seaplanes OTL - i.e. planes with floats which take off from the sea or simply planes operating at sea from carriers? If the former than its a bad option as they greatly reduce the capacity of a/c at sea for a variety of reasons. [Need to be moved by crane from the carrier to sea and the reverse when they continue, reduced operational capacity because of the floats, they need pretty calm waters to take off at all and also it means that carriers have to basically stop to load and unload a/c which reduces their performance and leaves them very vulnerable]. Hopefully he means wheeled carrier a/c which has much greater capacity. If Britain still has Fisher's 'follies' i.e. Glorious, Furious, Curious and possibly also Renown and Repulse then it has ships that can fairly quickly and cheaply be converted into fast 1st generation carrier which can provide a good early capacity and probably far ahead of anyone else while also teaching vital lessons for future ships.
Good background on how Germany won but prompted considerable internal paralysis over both social and political reform and also some of their reluctance to go to war.
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The Sun Rises Yet Again Chapter 12: The Art Of War
May 17, 1925
All the general staff of the three major branches of the British military are gathered. J. F. C. Fuller leads the Army, David Beatty is head of the Royal Navy and Hugh Trenchard represents the Royal Air Force. They all have their best men with them today, hoping to put their best foot forward. Fuller brings Liddell Hart, Bernard Montgomery, Edmund "Tiny" Ironside, Alan "Shrapnel" Brooke, Archibald Wavell, John "Tiger Gort" Vereker, Claude "The Auk" Auchinleck and a plethora of officers from the Camberley Staff College. Beatty brings Reginald Henderson, Russel Grenfell, Lumley Lyster, Charles Madden, Herbert Richmond, Andrew "ABC' Cunningham, Reginald Drax and numerous naval officers of the Greenwich Royal Navy College. Trenchard brings Arthur Harris, Hugh Dowding and Charles Portal as well as several other theorists and pilots from the Cranwell Royal Air Force College. All have rehearsed and prepared their speaking points and are ready to deliver them. Mosley joins the men into the conference room. As the men sit down in their respective groups, Mosley is the first to speak, standing in an elevated position, equidistant to all the groups, signifying his superiority and respect to all branches. Oswald Mosley
"Gentlemen, today we are here to discuss the strategies, tactics, operational procedures, technological and doctrinal innovations, potential synergy between the branches and, of course, the direction, focus, and goals of Britain in the coming decades. Let us discuss the issues with vigor and passion but also with the tact and courtesy necessary to keep a proper pace and to prevent senseless bickering. Now, the Army underneath J. F. C. Fuller may take the floor." J. F. C. Fuller
"Thank you your Excellency. As we all know, the Army needs a major overhaul. The outdated tactics of the early years of the war cost us dearly. It wasn't until late 1917 that commanders and generals finally understood some of the tactics needed to fight effectively in that truly modern war, but by that time it was too late. Even Field Marshall Haig, for all his efforts, could not turn the war in our favour, even the victory at Lyon was not enough. With this costly and terrible lesson, I believe the General Staff and I have reached several conclusions that will benefit the army. The first of these is to develop a large and powerful tank corps, emphasising speed, decisive breakthroughs and the encirclement of enemy forces. This will be crucial to our success in our continental endeavors as most of our foes will have numerically superior armies. We will have to take inspiration from Napoleon, especially his victories at Austerlitz, Helmuth von Moltke the Elder, Clausewitz and many other military geniuses. Defeat in Detail, mass mobility, armored breakthroughs, superior firepower and rapid encirclement will be essential to ensuring sustained success without incurring abhorrent butcher's bills like in the Great War or, as I prefer to call it, the Seminal Aberration. We must also expand the NCO corps so as to exercise effective control over the massive armies of the modern age. Individual initiative and deviation from certain aspects of the overall strategic plan to achieve meaningful tactical success must not only be allowed but encouraged. The radio and its coming advancements will help generals and field marshals maintain efficient and tight control and communication with the front-line and to react in real time, even faster than the telephone. However, even if this becomes so widespread as to allow obsessive direction of all forces, this should not be pursued or desired. Men at the front-line, officers and infantry, must be allowed to make their own decisions. We cannot account for everything and an insistence that we can or should will lead to unnecessary bloodshed. A doctrine of autonomy, if you will. We must also seek to improve our understanding of the three C's of warfare, Command, Control, Communication, and Information, or C3I for short, as well as the 9 Principles of War: Direction, Concentration, Distribution, Determination, Surprise, Endurance, Mobility, Offensive Action and Security. These 9 Principles do not stand on their own but instead overlap, forming the Law of Economy of Force. Furthermore, the 9 Principles are joined into 3 groups with 3 principles each, the Principles of Control are 1, 4 and 7, the Principles of Pressure are 2, 5 and 8, and the Principles of Resistance are 3, 6 and 9. Improving our understanding of these concepts will allow us a better view of the battlefield in its entirety." Fuller, Hart, and Montgomery are the primary advocates of these radical views and alterations to warfare, with Ironside being the first of the old guard to embrace it. With these 4 men combining their efforts, they manage to sway the majority of the room to their viewpoint, with the last few naysayers being suppressed when Mosley assures he intends to fully back these ideas. After this, the rest of the army staff go up and express the needs for proper recruitment tactics, improvement of mobilisation speed and efficiency as well as research and development of more advanced technologies to improve the amphibious capabilities of the army. With the army staff having finished with everything they desired to speak about, Mosley once again calls the attention of all involved. Oswald Mosley
"Most impressive and convincing Mister Fuller. With that done, the Royal Air Force under Hugh Trenchard shall now take the floor." Hugh Trenchard
"Thank you Sir Mosley. With the advent of the fighter plane came the introduction to entirely alien dimension of warfare, the skies. No longer is it sufficient to hold land and naval superiority; one must maintain control of the land, the seas and the skies if he is to ensure that his men can operate with impunity. At the moment, military aviation as whole is in its infancy, only just over a decade ago was it ushered into the world. Despite its complications and uncertainties, military aviation holds the potential to completely shift the way war is fought. With the introduction of stronger engines, we will soon see the debut of heavier-than-air aircraft into practical military use. With these larger and more powerful planes, we can begin to develop even heavier payloads for our bombers. This opens up gateways to a new way to weaken an enemies' war effort and morale of their citizenry without even moving our ground troops. It is something Arthur Harris, Charles Portal, the rest of my colleagues, and I have spent many hours if not days theorising about. We were having difficulties reaching a name until it dawned on me, the perfect moniker for this idea of aerial warfare, Strategic Bombing. Harris, however, felt it was far to modest and kind for our enemies and instead favoured Strategic Destruction and we as whole agree. This idea would mean the development of advanced bomber craft capable of carrying extremely heavy and frighteningly destructive payloads and travelling the long distances required to strike the industrial heartland of the enemy. It would also mean developing fighters capable of escorting the bombers to their target and back to base. With this, we will strike fear into the hearts of our enemies'. They will wonder will dreadful uncertainty whether or not the towns and cities of their people are safe from our righteous fury." This proposal immediately resonates with most if not all in the room. Both on a practical and symbolic level, it is very appealing. Fuller eagerly stands up to speak. J. F. C Fuller
"Trenchard, I believe I speak on behalf of all in this room that your proposal is a most sound one. The vile communists and dastardly Huns will be drowned in a sea of hellfire and brimstone delivered from the British Isles!" The room erupts into cheering. Only Mosley's commanding presence and voice manages to calm them down, back to the stoic and professional composure that they began with. Fuller begins to speak again J. F. C. Fuller"But we must also not forget another role the air force must fulfill, that being the assistance of ground forces on a tactical level. These very same bombing capabilities can be scaled down from destroying cities to destroying fortifications, troops, bases and any other objects or persons that seek to oppose our forces." Hugh Dowding stands up and begins to speak. Hugh Dowding
"I concur. As much as I agree with the merits of strategic destruction, I also believe we must not forget the most crucially important role the air force played in the Great War, assistance of ground troops. From carrying out reconnaissance runs to detailing where the next artillery bombardment should be directed towards, to dropping bombs onto enemy troops, the airplane proved it is capable of working in synchronous harmony to achieve fantastically destructive results. Development of more agile planes with a shorter range and smaller payloads, designed not lay waste to an unsuspecting town but instead to a hapless enemy battalion, will help us achieve great success. This doctrine of air support in close proximity to ground forces is extremely important. I believe we can refer to it as Close Air Support?" The room sounds in agreement. Hugh Dowding"The challenge is in balancing these two approaches to ensure neither is ignored. This should not prove to be too difficult as both rely on the use of bombing ground targets to achieve goals. One is strategic, the other is tactical." Hugh Trenchard"I agree wholeheartedly! We must also reinforce the idea that the RAF is an independent organisation, deserving as much respect and freedom as the Army and Navy. One of the first steps toward this end is to abolish the Royal Navy Air Service and transfer it's resources, personnel and duties to a new group, the Fleet Air Arm, which will be underneath the RAF's control instead of the Royal Navy." This idea is well received. With Trenchard and the Air Force finished, Mosley uses the brief silence to keep the momentum going. Oswald Mosley"Such ideas are most exciting to hear Trenchard and I have the utmost confidence that the RAF will successfully develop and implement them into the next war. Now, David Beatty and the Royal Navy may speak." David Beatty"Thank you Prime Minister. It is with great shame I mention the defeat at Jutland. That singular event perfectly encapsulates everything wrong with our naval doctrine. We need a new naval doctrine, even if the one we used was the right choice during the war, we can no longer hope to compete with Germany in the field of battleships. Even if we were to begin a massive fleet construction program, Germany will still have a bigger populace and economy and a several years head start. This problem is the Gordian Knot of the British Navy in the modern world. And like said knot, it can not be solved by simply building more titanic ships or pulling the knot harder. It can only be solved by looking at the problem from a new position, finding a previously unthought of solution. For Alexander, it was cutting the knot in half with his sword, for Britain, it is forging a bold, new way to wage war on the high seas. I believe sir Lyster, sir Henderson, sir Grenfell and I have talked and laboured extensively on this. To understand the merits of this doctrine I am to expound requires the ability to set aside one's biases to see what is best. This new doctrine shifts the focus of our navy from the vaunted dreadnoughts and battleships, from the idea that naval power is exclusively determined in number of guns, caliber length and tonnage displaced, of constructing and maintaining the biggest and largest ships, towards a less ostentatious but certainly more efficient fleet composition. Britain's navy, if she wishes to be successful in the coming conflicts, must place ultimate primacy on her carriers rather than her dreadnoughts. Aviation will fundamentally change how war is fought on the seas, as it has and will on every other front. With aviation advancing faster and faster, we will be able to build planes able to take off and land on carrier decks without ever touching the sea. We can make these planes faster, stronger, more agile and we can arm them with stronger, faster and more accurate torpedoes. Soon, the greatest danger to the enemies ships will no longer be the tremendous thundering of a dreadnought's salvo but of the hum of an airplane propeller and it's torpedo crashing into the sea. The HMS Hermes, still under construction, will serve as the basis for all future carriers. In addition, we must also take into account the power of the submarine. The ability of submersible craft to wreak havoc on the shipping tonnage of a nation must not be underestimated. We are all extremely lucky that Germany feared the intervention of the U.S. into the war and were unable to fully carry out their plan to starve Britain as they could not sink American ships too close to the Home Isles. Submarines must be developed, this will be easier than thought as the submarine's prime weapon, the torpedo, will also be in use by the naval air force and thus advancements in one field can benefit the other. The submarine can also remain hidden from the enemy and can infiltrate deep into enemy seas if need be. Submarines can also, if a situation demanded it, deal heavy or fatal damage to a larger ship, even a dreadnought. This shows we must also be vigilant for any advances in submarine technology by our enemies, especially from the Germans. To do so, we must develop our existing depth charges to be even more effective and accurate, able to penetrate the watery depths that enemy submarines will lurk at. The dreadnoughts, battleships and other ships will fulfill a purpose, that of serving as escorts and screens for the carriers. This doctrine of cooperation between carriers for winning naval engagements, submarines to strangle commerce and imports to a nation and destroyers to counteract enemy submarines shall be referred to as the Floating Fortress Doctrine. Unlike the dreadnought, which the term is incorrectly applied to, this doctrine forms a true fortress, with every ship and plane serving a purpose in the fleet just as every soldier and building serves one in a fortress and it's accompanying areas." Soon after, Henderson, Lyster and Grenfell elaborate more on the "Floating Fortress" doctrine. Explaining how battleships are expensive to construct and that Germany will not stand for it. How pursuing this naval arms race of battleships with Germany would bankrupt Britain and plunge them into another depression, one potentially worse then the one currently experienced. They also explain how battleships and large cruisers are obvious targets for the enemy, more so than a carrier due to their established mythos while the carrier has none. They expand on the reasons why naval aircraft would become more deadly than anything before it and the need to advance anti-air defenses for both land and naval forces. The old guard are less enthusiastic towards this line of thinking than the army was to Fuller's. However, Mosley's approval and commendation of Beatty and his colleagues sway them over and soon they come to understand the merits of what they are saying. Trenchard fully supports this strategy. In the previous years he has had to vehemently defend the air force from budget cuts and being absorbed into other branches, which would destroy its independence as well as having to work vigorously to establish and entrench an esprit de corps for the Air Force. He views increasing the importance of aviation of the Air Force in field of naval combat would further help the Air Force command the respect and attention the other branches maintained. With everyone having said their piece, Mosley announces that conference is over and that all in the room could return to their work except for Fuller, Beatty and Trenchard. Oswald Mosley
"Gentlemen, I commend you for the excellent job you did today. Due to your efforts, Britain is another step closer to regaining what is her's. I also wish to inform I have been in contact with several scientists. Men such as John Ambrose Fleming, Oliver Joseph Lodge, Lewis Fry Richardson, Albert Beaumont Wood, Robert Watson Watt, and Édouard Branly as well as the Royal Society. They have all been working om several different versions and pieces of technology, the use of radio waves to detect enemy planes as well as improve current radio transmitters to allow more efficient communication and the use of sonic vibrations to detect enemy submarines. I have asked if they could combine their efforts to develop advanced radio and sonic detection systems. They all agreed and I am setting up the buildings and gathering the resources they require as we speak. Soon, you will have advanced submarine detection capabilities and communication from the front to high command will become much faster and early plane detection systems will help us fend off any potential bombing campaigns. I believe the combination of all the ideas of war into a two phrases. Cyclonic Conflict for the strategy and Whirlwind Warfare for the tactics. You are now dismissed." The men are pleased by this news and return to their jobs. About 2 or so hours have passed since they first met and Mosley has other things to do. He has been working continuously with Chambers and Kitson to improve the economic situation as well as to increase the power of the Prime Minister. With the economy recovering, his successful attempts at demonstrating the power Britain still possessed, and the world famous London Conference have all led to even faster rising level of nationalism and loyalty to the country and to Mosley himself. Many view Mosley as the bringer of a new Golden Age for Britain and its people. He is extremely popular with the military as he has always advocated against reducing the military and shrinking the Defense Budget. Within a year's time, Mosley could call a snap election to increase the Victorian Union's numbers in the House of Commons dramatically . Mosley is determined to shatter the democratic elements of British society. In time, the people would learn to view him and the King as the ultimate authority on all matters. As he enters his office, he notices something on his desk, something that had not been there before. He approaches it and realises it is a book with a message on top. Mosley reads it. "My dear friend Mosley, I sincerely hope you enjoy this book. It is a most fascinating look at the destitute state of Paris and, by extension, the Commune as a whole. Hopefully, this book can serve as an apology for my neglect of your birthday. The book is written by an English man going by the name P.S Burton. However this seems to simply be a pseudonym and not his actual name as I could not find any P.S Burton. I will write to you if I discover this author. I hope all is well with Cynthia as well as Vivien and Nicholas. Sincerely, Henry" He looks at the book. The title reads "Down and Out in Paris". It appears to be intriguing and so he begins to read it. As he flips through the pages, he engrosses himself in the personal accounts of P.S Burton within France. The high crime rate, widespread destitution, poverty and famine, the inept Communard police forces, and the general volatile state of the city. He lays the book down, knowing he cannot finish the approximately 130 pages in a single sitting, not with his job. He swears to finish it as quickly as he can and once done, to find out who this P.S Burton really is. Mosley could find use for a man of such talents. Basil Henry Liddell Hart, One Of The Premier Theorists Underneath Mosley, As Seen In The Great War, 1916 Bernard Law Montgomery, One Of Britain's Most Skilled Commanders. He Is However Quite Combative With Superiors And Contemporaries And Is Overly Eager To Prove Himself After Some Humiliating Defeats To The Irish In The Autumn Uprising, 1925 Claude John Eyre Auchinleck, A Masterful British Commanding Officer Who Displayed His Talents In The Mesopotamian Campaign Against The Ottomans. Despite Limited Forces Due To Problems In France, He Achieved Routine Success Against Larger Ottoman Forces And Almost Seized Baghdad But Was Ultimately Defeated When The Massive German Counter Attack Began In 1918 After France Surrendered, 1923 Sir Arthur Travers Harris, A High Ranking Staff Member In The Cranwell Royal Air Force College And Essential Co-Creator Of Strategic Bombing, Gaining Inspiration From Herman Göring's Use Of Heavy Bombings To Suppress Native Revolts In Mittleafrika, Much To The Dismay Of Statthalter Paul von Lettow-Vorbeck, 1915 Arthur Lumley St. George Lyster, Captain Of The HMS Danae And A Member Of The Greenwich Royal Naval College As Well As A Vocal Advocate For Carrier Primacy In The Royal Navy, 1921
Read the 2nd post now - wanted to reply to the 1st before I forgot the relevant points.
Building on what I said before there is a divergence between the two aspects of the RAF being represented. If you go for the Harris approach of Strategic Destruction than, other than possibly a counter defensive system there is no argument for any real support for the other two services. In fact that was what Trenchard and Harris opposed fundamentally as they were determined on a totally independent strategic force as the be all and end all for its independent existence. Not saying you can't have a strategic bomber force and pre-radar there is an argument it can perform a decent role as interception by defending a/c is much harder. However you can't have it as the core of the force and also have serious resources deployed to other uses. Also if the RAF gets control of the FAA, which it did OTL on the formation of the RAF but hasn't done here, it is almost certain it will retard the development of the carrier forces as they will be seen as at best a secondary aspect of the RAF and get little support or prestige.
Basically it sounds like all three services have presented their arguments but Moseley as of yet has not actually provided any guidance as to what route to take.
Sounds like Eric Blair or some more right wing version is active in TTL?
Steve
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Post by lordvesporeon on Aug 5, 2019 22:49:41 GMT
The Sun Rises Yet Again Chapter 11: The Isles Stand Stalwart
..... Litvinov is dispatched to Paris to advise the French on what action to take for the foreseeable future, with Grigory Chicherin emphasising aggression towards the British and their newfound alliance instead of towards the Germans due to Molotov's suggestion. Chicherin sends Molotov to Berlin to work with Karl Radek, the Soviet Union's representative in Germany, with plans to ease the Germans to their presence. With this advice from the Soviets, the French stage a naval exercise in the Channel to show off their strength to the British. In response, Beatty sends a petition to Mosley asking permission to stage a naval exercise, much larger than the one the French did, less than 13 knots off the coast of Calais. The letter also includes a request to have Mosley arrange a meeting between himself, Fuller, and Hugh Trenchard, Marshall of the Royal Air Force, in order to work on cementing cooperation of the Royal Air Force, the Royal Navy, and the British Army as one as well as the introduction of an innovative theory on how naval warfare would be waged in the next Great War. Mosley signs off on the naval exercise but is sure to let Beatty know that he must avoid war as Britain is not ready for a full-scale one. He agrees to the meeting between the branches and decides it should include not just the respective heads of each branch but also of many of the general staff of them as well as himself. Beatty, with Mosley's permission, begins to consolidate a fleet big enough to intimidate the French. Beatty would bring the battleships HMS Barham, HMS Hood and HMS Hannibal, the cruisers HMS Achilles, HMS Ambrose, HMS Aphis, HMS Birmingham, HMS Cairo, HMS Calcutta, HMS Calliope, HMS Calypso, HMS Cambrian, HMS Canterbury, HMS Capetown, HMS Caradoc, HMS Cardiff and HMS Carlisle, the destroyer HMS Blenheim, the monitor HMS Erebus and the seaplane carrier HMS Ark Royal as well as 2 dozen or so militarised civilian ships. HMS Hermes was not ready to leave her port as her construction had been delayed due to the Depression. As the fleet converges over the course of the next 2 weeks, Mosley does his best to keep most of the movement secret and the bits that slip through are branded as scheduled movements. These efforts pay off and on the 2nd of May, 3 days before the exercise would go through, the movements of the Royal Navy are mostly unscrutinised by the world. Information relating to the exercise is purposely leaked so as to get the story into international view by the 5th. On the 5th, Beatty's fleet, headed by HMS Hood, steams out towards the coast of Calais. David Beatty
"I propose a doctrine centered around the seaplane carrier and the air support it can provide in battle. The introduction of airplanes will effect every aspect of war, on land and at sea. Seaplanes are much cheaper to build than dreadnoughts or cruisers and if the technology were to be improved, they could end up becoming an equal if not significantly more dangerous threat to ships. They can be fielded in larger numbers if enough carriers were present and are far more maneuverable than a colossal dreadnought or even a more sprightly cruiser. There is more to it than that, the reconnaissance benefits, power projection, land support, and many other components that have convinced me to follow through with this."
One or two questions and comments on this post. a) Technically a knot is a unit of speed rather than distance, i.e. 13 nautical miles an hour. Also even if you mean the slightly smaller standard mile then 13 miles from Calais if towards England the exercise is at least as close to England/Britain as to France.
b) If the RAF has still been formed and Trenchard is in command you will have great problems getting it to really co-operate with the other services. Its entire purpose for existence as an independent service was that it was separate to the other two and would provide a 'cheaper' alternative to conventional warfare by area bombing of the enemy cities and industrial base. He will not want any co-operation with the other services as he will see it as a threat to the RAF's existence. Arguably its formation was a big blow for the navy especially as it greatly distracted from the development of carrier a/c for the latter. Hence expect some conflict with Beatty's new ideas.
c) HMS Hannibal - is that the old 1896 pre-dreadnaught or a ship that was not built or named as such OTL? If the former then the RN is in a bad way if ships that ancient and obsolete are still in service.
d) By seaplane does Beatty mean what was called seaplanes OTL - i.e. planes with floats which take off from the sea or simply planes operating at sea from carriers? If the former than its a bad option as they greatly reduce the capacity of a/c at sea for a variety of reasons. [Need to be moved by crane from the carrier to sea and the reverse when they continue, reduced operational capacity because of the floats, they need pretty calm waters to take off at all and also it means that carriers have to basically stop to load and unload a/c which reduces their performance and leaves them very vulnerable]. Hopefully he means wheeled carrier a/c which has much greater capacity. If Britain still has Fisher's 'follies' i.e. Glorious, Furious, Curious and possibly also Renown and Repulse then it has ships that can fairly quickly and cheaply be converted into fast 1st generation carrier which can provide a good early capacity and probably far ahead of anyone else while also teaching vital lessons for future ships.
Good background on how Germany won but prompted considerable internal paralysis over both social and political reform and also some of their reluctance to go to war.
Steve
I'll fix the knot issue thank you You are in fact correct, I will reorganize this whole matter, showing more tension and struggle It is that HMS Hannibal Seaplane is a mixed term, it refers to floating planes but also to any ship launched from a carrier, think of it as the term coming into its own Thank you, I will develop Germany more, showing it reclaiming its strength
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The Sun Rises Yet Again Chapter 12: The Art Of War
May 17, 1925
All the general staff of the three major branches of the British military are gathered. J. F. C. Fuller leads the Army, David Beatty is head of the Royal Navy and Hugh Trenchard represents the Royal Air Force. They all have their best men with them today, hoping to put their best foot forward. Fuller brings Liddell Hart, Bernard Montgomery, Edmund "Tiny" Ironside, Alan "Shrapnel" Brooke, Archibald Wavell, John "Tiger Gort" Vereker, Claude "The Auk" Auchinleck and a plethora of officers from the Camberley Staff College. Beatty brings Reginald Henderson, Russel Grenfell, Lumley Lyster, Charles Madden, Herbert Richmond, Andrew "ABC' Cunningham, Reginald Drax and numerous naval officers of the Greenwich Royal Navy College. Trenchard brings Arthur Harris, Hugh Dowding and Charles Portal as well as several other theorists and pilots from the Cranwell Royal Air Force College. All have rehearsed and prepared their speaking points and are ready to deliver them. Mosley joins the men into the conference room. As the men sit down in their respective groups, Mosley is the first to speak, standing in an elevated position, equidistant to all the groups, signifying his superiority and respect to all branches. Oswald Mosley
"Gentlemen, today we are here to discuss the strategies, tactics, operational procedures, technological and doctrinal innovations, potential synergy between the branches and, of course, the direction, focus, and goals of Britain in the coming decades. Let us discuss the issues with vigor and passion but also with the tact and courtesy necessary to keep a proper pace and to prevent senseless bickering. Now, the Army underneath J. F. C. Fuller may take the floor." J. F. C. Fuller
"Thank you your Excellency. As we all know, the Army needs a major overhaul. The outdated tactics of the early years of the war cost us dearly. It wasn't until late 1917 that commanders and generals finally understood some of the tactics needed to fight effectively in that truly modern war, but by that time it was too late. Even Field Marshall Haig, for all his efforts, could not turn the war in our favour, even the victory at Lyon was not enough. With this costly and terrible lesson, I believe the General Staff and I have reached several conclusions that will benefit the army. The first of these is to develop a large and powerful tank corps, emphasising speed, decisive breakthroughs and the encirclement of enemy forces. This will be crucial to our success in our continental endeavors as most of our foes will have numerically superior armies. We will have to take inspiration from Napoleon, especially his victories at Austerlitz, Helmuth von Moltke the Elder, Clausewitz and many other military geniuses. Defeat in Detail, mass mobility, armored breakthroughs, superior firepower and rapid encirclement will be essential to ensuring sustained success without incurring abhorrent butcher's bills like in the Great War or, as I prefer to call it, the Seminal Aberration. We must also expand the NCO corps so as to exercise effective control over the massive armies of the modern age. Individual initiative and deviation from certain aspects of the overall strategic plan to achieve meaningful tactical success must not only be allowed but encouraged. The radio and its coming advancements will help generals and field marshals maintain efficient and tight control and communication with the front-line and to react in real time, even faster than the telephone. However, even if this becomes so widespread as to allow obsessive direction of all forces, this should not be pursued or desired. Men at the front-line, officers and infantry, must be allowed to make their own decisions. We cannot account for everything and an insistence that we can or should will lead to unnecessary bloodshed. A doctrine of autonomy, if you will. We must also seek to improve our understanding of the three C's of warfare, Command, Control, Communication, and Information, or C3I for short, as well as the 9 Principles of War: Direction, Concentration, Distribution, Determination, Surprise, Endurance, Mobility, Offensive Action and Security. These 9 Principles do not stand on their own but instead overlap, forming the Law of Economy of Force. Furthermore, the 9 Principles are joined into 3 groups with 3 principles each, the Principles of Control are 1, 4 and 7, the Principles of Pressure are 2, 5 and 8, and the Principles of Resistance are 3, 6 and 9. Improving our understanding of these concepts will allow us a better view of the battlefield in its entirety." Fuller, Hart, and Montgomery are the primary advocates of these radical views and alterations to warfare, with Ironside being the first of the old guard to embrace it. With these 4 men combining their efforts, they manage to sway the majority of the room to their viewpoint, with the last few naysayers being suppressed when Mosley assures he intends to fully back these ideas. After this, the rest of the army staff go up and express the needs for proper recruitment tactics, improvement of mobilisation speed and efficiency as well as research and development of more advanced technologies to improve the amphibious capabilities of the army. With the army staff having finished with everything they desired to speak about, Mosley once again calls the attention of all involved. Oswald Mosley
"Most impressive and convincing Mister Fuller. With that done, the Royal Air Force under Hugh Trenchard shall now take the floor." Hugh Trenchard
"Thank you Sir Mosley. With the advent of the fighter plane came the introduction to entirely alien dimension of warfare, the skies. No longer is it sufficient to hold land and naval superiority; one must maintain control of the land, the seas and the skies if he is to ensure that his men can operate with impunity. At the moment, military aviation as whole is in its infancy, only just over a decade ago was it ushered into the world. Despite its complications and uncertainties, military aviation holds the potential to completely shift the way war is fought. With the introduction of stronger engines, we will soon see the debut of heavier-than-air aircraft into practical military use. With these larger and more powerful planes, we can begin to develop even heavier payloads for our bombers. This opens up gateways to a new way to weaken an enemies' war effort and morale of their citizenry without even moving our ground troops. It is something Arthur Harris, Charles Portal, the rest of my colleagues, and I have spent many hours if not days theorising about. We were having difficulties reaching a name until it dawned on me, the perfect moniker for this idea of aerial warfare, Strategic Bombing. Harris, however, felt it was far to modest and kind for our enemies and instead favoured Strategic Destruction and we as whole agree. This idea would mean the development of advanced bomber craft capable of carrying extremely heavy and frighteningly destructive payloads and travelling the long distances required to strike the industrial heartland of the enemy. It would also mean developing fighters capable of escorting the bombers to their target and back to base. With this, we will strike fear into the hearts of our enemies'. They will wonder will dreadful uncertainty whether or not the towns and cities of their people are safe from our righteous fury." This proposal immediately resonates with most if not all in the room. Both on a practical and symbolic level, it is very appealing. Fuller eagerly stands up to speak. J. F. C Fuller
"Trenchard, I believe I speak on behalf of all in this room that your proposal is a most sound one. The vile communists and dastardly Huns will be drowned in a sea of hellfire and brimstone delivered from the British Isles!" The room erupts into cheering. Only Mosley's commanding presence and voice manages to calm them down, back to the stoic and professional composure that they began with. Fuller begins to speak again J. F. C. Fuller"But we must also not forget another role the air force must fulfill, that being the assistance of ground forces on a tactical level. These very same bombing capabilities can be scaled down from destroying cities to destroying fortifications, troops, bases and any other objects or persons that seek to oppose our forces." Hugh Dowding stands up and begins to speak. Hugh Dowding
"I concur. As much as I agree with the merits of strategic destruction, I also believe we must not forget the most crucially important role the air force played in the Great War, assistance of ground troops. From carrying out reconnaissance runs to detailing where the next artillery bombardment should be directed towards, to dropping bombs onto enemy troops, the airplane proved it is capable of working in synchronous harmony to achieve fantastically destructive results. Development of more agile planes with a shorter range and smaller payloads, designed not lay waste to an unsuspecting town but instead to a hapless enemy battalion, will help us achieve great success. This doctrine of air support in close proximity to ground forces is extremely important. I believe we can refer to it as Close Air Support?" The room sounds in agreement. Hugh Dowding"The challenge is in balancing these two approaches to ensure neither is ignored. This should not prove to be too difficult as both rely on the use of bombing ground targets to achieve goals. One is strategic, the other is tactical." Hugh Trenchard"I agree wholeheartedly! We must also reinforce the idea that the RAF is an independent organisation, deserving as much respect and freedom as the Army and Navy. One of the first steps toward this end is to abolish the Royal Navy Air Service and transfer it's resources, personnel and duties to a new group, the Fleet Air Arm, which will be underneath the RAF's control instead of the Royal Navy." This idea is well received. With Trenchard and the Air Force finished, Mosley uses the brief silence to keep the momentum going. Oswald Mosley"Such ideas are most exciting to hear Trenchard and I have the utmost confidence that the RAF will successfully develop and implement them into the next war. Now, David Beatty and the Royal Navy may speak." David Beatty"Thank you Prime Minister. It is with great shame I mention the defeat at Jutland. That singular event perfectly encapsulates everything wrong with our naval doctrine. We need a new naval doctrine, even if the one we used was the right choice during the war, we can no longer hope to compete with Germany in the field of battleships. Even if we were to begin a massive fleet construction program, Germany will still have a bigger populace and economy and a several years head start. This problem is the Gordian Knot of the British Navy in the modern world. And like said knot, it can not be solved by simply building more titanic ships or pulling the knot harder. It can only be solved by looking at the problem from a new position, finding a previously unthought of solution. For Alexander, it was cutting the knot in half with his sword, for Britain, it is forging a bold, new way to wage war on the high seas. I believe sir Lyster, sir Henderson, sir Grenfell and I have talked and laboured extensively on this. To understand the merits of this doctrine I am to expound requires the ability to set aside one's biases to see what is best. This new doctrine shifts the focus of our navy from the vaunted dreadnoughts and battleships, from the idea that naval power is exclusively determined in number of guns, caliber length and tonnage displaced, of constructing and maintaining the biggest and largest ships, towards a less ostentatious but certainly more efficient fleet composition. Britain's navy, if she wishes to be successful in the coming conflicts, must place ultimate primacy on her carriers rather than her dreadnoughts. Aviation will fundamentally change how war is fought on the seas, as it has and will on every other front. With aviation advancing faster and faster, we will be able to build planes able to take off and land on carrier decks without ever touching the sea. We can make these planes faster, stronger, more agile and we can arm them with stronger, faster and more accurate torpedoes. Soon, the greatest danger to the enemies ships will no longer be the tremendous thundering of a dreadnought's salvo but of the hum of an airplane propeller and it's torpedo crashing into the sea. The HMS Hermes, still under construction, will serve as the basis for all future carriers. In addition, we must also take into account the power of the submarine. The ability of submersible craft to wreak havoc on the shipping tonnage of a nation must not be underestimated. We are all extremely lucky that Germany feared the intervention of the U.S. into the war and were unable to fully carry out their plan to starve Britain as they could not sink American ships too close to the Home Isles. Submarines must be developed, this will be easier than thought as the submarine's prime weapon, the torpedo, will also be in use by the naval air force and thus advancements in one field can benefit the other. The submarine can also remain hidden from the enemy and can infiltrate deep into enemy seas if need be. Submarines can also, if a situation demanded it, deal heavy or fatal damage to a larger ship, even a dreadnought. This shows we must also be vigilant for any advances in submarine technology by our enemies, especially from the Germans. To do so, we must develop our existing depth charges to be even more effective and accurate, able to penetrate the watery depths that enemy submarines will lurk at. The dreadnoughts, battleships and other ships will fulfill a purpose, that of serving as escorts and screens for the carriers. This doctrine of cooperation between carriers for winning naval engagements, submarines to strangle commerce and imports to a nation and destroyers to counteract enemy submarines shall be referred to as the Floating Fortress Doctrine. Unlike the dreadnought, which the term is incorrectly applied to, this doctrine forms a true fortress, with every ship and plane serving a purpose in the fleet just as every soldier and building serves one in a fortress and it's accompanying areas." Soon after, Henderson, Lyster and Grenfell elaborate more on the "Floating Fortress" doctrine. Explaining how battleships are expensive to construct and that Germany will not stand for it. How pursuing this naval arms race of battleships with Germany would bankrupt Britain and plunge them into another depression, one potentially worse then the one currently experienced. They also explain how battleships and large cruisers are obvious targets for the enemy, more so than a carrier due to their established mythos while the carrier has none. They expand on the reasons why naval aircraft would become more deadly than anything before it and the need to advance anti-air defenses for both land and naval forces. The old guard are less enthusiastic towards this line of thinking than the army was to Fuller's. However, Mosley's approval and commendation of Beatty and his colleagues sway them over and soon they come to understand the merits of what they are saying. Trenchard fully supports this strategy. In the previous years he has had to vehemently defend the air force from budget cuts and being absorbed into other branches, which would destroy its independence as well as having to work vigorously to establish and entrench an esprit de corps for the Air Force. He views increasing the importance of aviation of the Air Force in field of naval combat would further help the Air Force command the respect and attention the other branches maintained. With everyone having said their piece, Mosley announces that conference is over and that all in the room could return to their work except for Fuller, Beatty and Trenchard. Oswald Mosley
"Gentlemen, I commend you for the excellent job you did today. Due to your efforts, Britain is another step closer to regaining what is her's. I also wish to inform I have been in contact with several scientists. Men such as John Ambrose Fleming, Oliver Joseph Lodge, Lewis Fry Richardson, Albert Beaumont Wood, Robert Watson Watt, and Édouard Branly as well as the Royal Society. They have all been working om several different versions and pieces of technology, the use of radio waves to detect enemy planes as well as improve current radio transmitters to allow more efficient communication and the use of sonic vibrations to detect enemy submarines. I have asked if they could combine their efforts to develop advanced radio and sonic detection systems. They all agreed and I am setting up the buildings and gathering the resources they require as we speak. Soon, you will have advanced submarine detection capabilities and communication from the front to high command will become much faster and early plane detection systems will help us fend off any potential bombing campaigns. I believe the combination of all the ideas of war into a two phrases. Cyclonic Conflict for the strategy and Whirlwind Warfare for the tactics. You are now dismissed." The men are pleased by this news and return to their jobs. About 2 or so hours have passed since they first met and Mosley has other things to do. He has been working continuously with Chambers and Kitson to improve the economic situation as well as to increase the power of the Prime Minister. With the economy recovering, his successful attempts at demonstrating the power Britain still possessed, and the world famous London Conference have all led to even faster rising level of nationalism and loyalty to the country and to Mosley himself. Many view Mosley as the bringer of a new Golden Age for Britain and its people. He is extremely popular with the military as he has always advocated against reducing the military and shrinking the Defense Budget. Within a year's time, Mosley could call a snap election to increase the Victorian Union's numbers in the House of Commons dramatically . Mosley is determined to shatter the democratic elements of British society. In time, the people would learn to view him and the King as the ultimate authority on all matters. As he enters his office, he notices something on his desk, something that had not been there before. He approaches it and realises it is a book with a message on top. Mosley reads it. "My dear friend Mosley, I sincerely hope you enjoy this book. It is a most fascinating look at the destitute state of Paris and, by extension, the Commune as a whole. Hopefully, this book can serve as an apology for my neglect of your birthday. The book is written by an English man going by the name P.S Burton. However this seems to simply be a pseudonym and not his actual name as I could not find any P.S Burton. I will write to you if I discover this author. I hope all is well with Cynthia as well as Vivien and Nicholas. Sincerely, Henry" He looks at the book. The title reads "Down and Out in Paris". It appears to be intriguing and so he begins to read it. As he flips through the pages, he engrosses himself in the personal accounts of P.S Burton within France. The high crime rate, widespread destitution, poverty and famine, the inept Communard police forces, and the general volatile state of the city. He lays the book down, knowing he cannot finish the approximately 130 pages in a single sitting, not with his job. He swears to finish it as quickly as he can and once done, to find out who this P.S Burton really is. Mosley could find use for a man of such talents. Basil Henry Liddell Hart, One Of The Premier Theorists Underneath Mosley, As Seen In The Great War, 1916 Bernard Law Montgomery, One Of Britain's Most Skilled Commanders. He Is However Quite Combative With Superiors And Contemporaries And Is Overly Eager To Prove Himself After Some Humiliating Defeats To The Irish In The Autumn Uprising, 1925 Claude John Eyre Auchinleck, A Masterful British Commanding Officer Who Displayed His Talents In The Mesopotamian Campaign Against The Ottomans. Despite Limited Forces Due To Problems In France, He Achieved Routine Success Against Larger Ottoman Forces And Almost Seized Baghdad But Was Ultimately Defeated When The Massive German Counter Attack Began In 1918 After France Surrendered, 1923 Sir Arthur Travers Harris, A High Ranking Staff Member In The Cranwell Royal Air Force College And Essential Co-Creator Of Strategic Bombing, Gaining Inspiration From Herman Göring's Use Of Heavy Bombings To Suppress Native Revolts In Mittleafrika, Much To The Dismay Of Statthalter Paul von Lettow-Vorbeck, 1915 Arthur Lumley St. George Lyster, Captain Of The HMS Danae And A Member Of The Greenwich Royal Naval College As Well As A Vocal Advocate For Carrier Primacy In The Royal Navy, 1921
Read the 2nd post now - wanted to reply to the 1st before I forgot the relevant points.
Building on what I said before there is a divergence between the two aspects of the RAF being represented. If you go for the Harris approach of Strategic Destruction than, other than possibly a counter defensive system there is no argument for any real support for the other two services. In fact that was what Trenchard and Harris opposed fundamentally as they were determined on a totally independent strategic force as the be all and end all for its independent existence. Not saying you can't have a strategic bomber force and pre-radar there is an argument it can perform a decent role as interception by defending a/c is much harder. However you can't have it as the core of the force and also have serious resources deployed to other uses. Also if the RAF gets control of the FAA, which it did OTL on the formation of the RAF but hasn't done here, it is almost certain it will retard the development of the carrier forces as they will be seen as at best a secondary aspect of the RAF and get little support or prestige.
Basically it sounds like all three services have presented their arguments but Moseley as of yet has not actually provided any guidance as to what route to take.
Sounds like Eric Blair or some more right wing version is active in TTL?
Steve
Both true, I will revise the military development path
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